Comments on: Energy Bill: RPS And The Coal Problem http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:15:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: scarecrow http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773454 scarecrow Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:49:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773454 <p>A friend at the California Energy Commission sent me a link to a table showing the percentage of generation by source in that state, as of 2006.</p> <p><a href="http://www.energy.ca.gov/electricity/gross_system_power.html">http://www.energy.ca.gov/elect.....power.html</a></p> <p>The total for “renewables” excluding the large hydro plants built decades ago is about 11%, but the biggest part of that is geothermal.</p> A friend at the California Energy Commission sent me a link to a table showing the percentage of generation by source in that state, as of 2006.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/elect…..power.html

The total for “renewables” excluding the large hydro plants built decades ago is about 11%, but the biggest part of that is geothermal.

]]> By: Eric Johnson http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773109 Eric Johnson Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:07:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773109 <p>It’s true that today there’s little to gain in reducing dependence on oil by changing the way we generate electricity.</p> <p>But, on the close horizon are plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. For most in-town trips (short trips), the combustion engine won’t even fire up, and the batteries will be recharged from the grid at night.</p> <p>Amazingly enough, substituting electricity for gasoline in this way <i>has a lower carbon footprint</i> than burning gasoline does. And that’s based on the current American generation portfolio (coal dominant) — it can get better as more renewable generation comes online.</p> It’s true that today there’s little to gain in reducing dependence on oil by changing the way we generate electricity.

But, on the close horizon are plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. For most in-town trips (short trips), the combustion engine won’t even fire up, and the batteries will be recharged from the grid at night.

Amazingly enough, substituting electricity for gasoline in this way has a lower carbon footprint than burning gasoline does. And that’s based on the current American generation portfolio (coal dominant) — it can get better as more renewable generation comes online.

]]> By: kathleen http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773108 kathleen Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:06:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773108 <p>REDUCE USE…REDUCE REDUCE REDUCE USE!</p> REDUCE USE…REDUCE REDUCE REDUCE USE!

]]> By: Ha ha ha, our genocide is funny http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773037 Ha ha ha, our genocide is funny Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:33:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773037 <p>When was Bill Clinton a coal miner?</p> When was Bill Clinton a coal miner?

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773018 mui Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:21:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-773018 <p><a href="#comment-772996"><em>Frank33 @ 109</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>MUI, It has been a tough week, and we have McNulty today I think.</p> <p>The Curies <a href="http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blMarieCurie.htm">discovered Radium and POLONIUM!</a> (Litvinenko!) They did not discover Curium, which was named after them.<br /> —————————-<br /> Marie Curie was born November 7, 1867 in Poland and died on July 4, 1934. Her co-discovery with her husband Pierre Curie of the radioactive elements radium and polonium represents one of the best known stories in modern science for which they were recognized in 1901 with the Nobel Prize in Physics. In 1911, Marie Curie was honored with a second Nobel prize, this time in chemistry, to honor her for successfully isolating pure radium and determining radium’s atomic weight.</p></blockquote> <p>Sorry it’s been a tough 6-7 days for me too (Starting Friday.)</p> Frank33 @ 109

MUI, It has been a tough week, and we have McNulty today I think.

The Curies discovered Radium and POLONIUM! (Litvinenko!) They did not discover Curium, which was named after them.
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Marie Curie was born November 7, 1867 in Poland and died on July 4, 1934. Her co-discovery with her husband Pierre Curie of the radioactive elements radium and polonium represents one of the best known stories in modern science for which they were recognized in 1901 with the Nobel Prize in Physics. In 1911, Marie Curie was honored with a second Nobel prize, this time in chemistry, to honor her for successfully isolating pure radium and determining radium’s atomic weight.

Sorry it’s been a tough 6-7 days for me too (Starting Friday.)

]]> By: Frank33 http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772996 Frank33 Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:10:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772996 <p>MUI, It has been a tough week, and we have McNulty today I think.</p> <p>The Curies <a href="http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blMarieCurie.htm">discovered Radium and POLONIUM!</a> (Litvinenko!) They did not discover Curium, which was named after them.<br /> —————————-<br /> Marie Curie was born November 7, 1867 in Poland and died on July 4, 1934. Her co-discovery with her husband Pierre Curie of the radioactive elements radium and polonium represents one of the best known stories in modern science for which they were recognized in 1901 with the Nobel Prize in Physics. In 1911, Marie Curie was honored with a second Nobel prize, this time in chemistry, to honor her for successfully isolating pure radium and determining radium’s atomic weight.</p> MUI, It has been a tough week, and we have McNulty today I think.

The Curies discovered Radium and POLONIUM! (Litvinenko!) They did not discover Curium, which was named after them.
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Marie Curie was born November 7, 1867 in Poland and died on July 4, 1934. Her co-discovery with her husband Pierre Curie of the radioactive elements radium and polonium represents one of the best known stories in modern science for which they were recognized in 1901 with the Nobel Prize in Physics. In 1911, Marie Curie was honored with a second Nobel prize, this time in chemistry, to honor her for successfully isolating pure radium and determining radium’s atomic weight.

]]> By: GordonM http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772979 GordonM Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772979 <p>Rocket Scientist @ 100: your #6 is another pet peeve of mine. Heating and cooling accounts for an astounding portion of our energy use, yet probably 80% of the homes in this country, if properly designed and oriented, could use 95% less energy for that purpose. Yet I watch architects and builders put up homes which need heat in the morning and AC by mid afternoon. Aaargh!</p> Rocket Scientist @ 100: your #6 is another pet peeve of mine. Heating and cooling accounts for an astounding portion of our energy use, yet probably 80% of the homes in this country, if properly designed and oriented, could use 95% less energy for that purpose. Yet I watch architects and builders put up homes which need heat in the morning and AC by mid afternoon. Aaargh!

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772974 mui Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:00:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772974 <p>Sorry Frank @105, I misread that. Zap 106.</p> Sorry Frank @105, I misread that. Zap 106.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772967 mui Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:56:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772967 <p><a href="#comment-772965"><em>Frank33 @ 105</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I do not have a link at hand, but Marie Curie (and her husband Pierre) were great scientists. I think she won two Nobel Prizes. But her experiments did expose her to high doses of radiation, and consequent health problems.</p></blockquote> <p>Just like a man!</p> Frank33 @ 105

I do not have a link at hand, but Marie Curie (and her husband Pierre) were great scientists. I think she won two Nobel Prizes. But her experiments did expose her to high doses of radiation, and consequent health problems.

Just like a man!

]]> By: Frank33 http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772965 Frank33 Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:56:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/energy-bill-rps-and-the-coal-problem/#comment-772965 <p>I do not have a link at hand, but Marie Curie (and her husband Pierre) were great scientists. I think she won two Nobel Prizes. But her experiments did expose her to high doses of radiation, and consequent health problems.</p> I do not have a link at hand, but Marie Curie (and her husband Pierre) were great scientists. I think she won two Nobel Prizes. But her experiments did expose her to high doses of radiation, and consequent health problems.

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