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		<title>By: Susan Kitchens</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773980</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Kitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe the outcome would have been different if we were to call those possible collateral damage targets “stem cells” or “snowflakes” or something.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Per Secretary of Spin:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“The President also has never declared it against the law to engage in embryonic stem cell research — he simply thinks it involves, as do many other people, the taking of a human life.” [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/21/snows-stem-cell-spin/&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the outcome would have been different if we were to call those possible collateral damage targets “stem cells” or “snowflakes” or something.</p>
<p>Per Secretary of Spin:</p>
<blockquote><p>“The President also has never declared it against the law to engage in embryonic stem cell research — he simply thinks it involves, as do many other people, the taking of a human life.” [<a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/21/snows-stem-cell-spin/">source</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn in MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773976</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772961&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772953&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 59&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fantastic post by the way scarecrow. You’ve done it again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you.  I’d been trying to ignore this story for three days, but it just kept tugging at me, like a little kid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oooh&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-772961"><em>Scarecrow @ 66</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-772953"><em>ccmask @ 59</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Fantastic post by the way scarecrow. You’ve done it again.</p>
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<p>Thank you.  I’d been trying to ignore this story for three days, but it just kept tugging at me, like a little kid.</p>
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<p>oooh</p>
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		<title>By: bhatten</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773777</link>
		<dc:creator>bhatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ted Koppel just did an NPR spot on the chilling child killing.  What more can we do than lament?There was a program this week that show a collection of clips of Bush and his lies pushing this war and the apparent victory at hand.  How can we not be sick and ashamed?  OUr country followed, in some cases even still, an idiot, immoral man into one of the great disasters of history.  I do not know how we atone, get past the guilt, around our own helplessness, do anything that looks like restorative justice.  Father forgive they know no what they do:  But we do know and keep doing. We propose to deauthorize the war.  Does that mean some level of troops to work for stability, some future, education, rebuilding. I know we lament: but what the hell next.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Koppel just did an NPR spot on the chilling child killing.  What more can we do than lament?There was a program this week that show a collection of clips of Bush and his lies pushing this war and the apparent victory at hand.  How can we not be sick and ashamed?  OUr country followed, in some cases even still, an idiot, immoral man into one of the great disasters of history.  I do not know how we atone, get past the guilt, around our own helplessness, do anything that looks like restorative justice.  Father forgive they know no what they do:  But we do know and keep doing. We propose to deauthorize the war.  Does that mean some level of troops to work for stability, some future, education, rebuilding. I know we lament: but what the hell next.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleOnion</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773694</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleOnion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When will the majority of Americans stand up and say, “Alright, that is enough. No more killing of Iraqi children in my name. Not one more. I will not remain a partner to this crime. It was wrong to start the war. It is wrong to continue it. It is wrong not to end it now. No more excuses. No more lies, end it now.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the majority of Americans stand up and say, “Alright, that is enough. No more killing of Iraqi children in my name. Not one more. I will not remain a partner to this crime. It was wrong to start the war. It is wrong to continue it. It is wrong not to end it now. No more excuses. No more lies, end it now.”</p>
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		<title>By: barbara bush (ate my baby)</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773650</link>
		<dc:creator>barbara bush (ate my baby)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obviously those orphaned children were better off in their chains and feces than they would have been under Saddam’s regime! Let freedom reign!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously those orphaned children were better off in their chains and feces than they would have been under Saddam’s regime! Let freedom reign!</p>
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		<title>By: barrelhse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773622</link>
		<dc:creator>barrelhse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kinda like Tim McVeigh, right?&lt;br /&gt;
umm..how’d it work out for Tim?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda like Tim McVeigh, right?<br />
umm..how’d it work out for Tim?</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773620</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-773618&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jeff @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3995&quot;&gt;Pentagon briefing&lt;/a&gt; dated today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Q: One more follow-up, if I could. We’re also told that U.S. forces, contrary to earlier reports, knew that there were children in that compound at the time of the attack, but that the target was considered such high value that it was considered worth the risk at the time. Is that the case, and what was the thinking behind that? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;COL. SCHWEITZER: That’s absolutely not the case. That’s an incorrect item that was reported. I read a similar report this morning on the net, and some of those facts appeared to be accurate. I can guarantee you personally, as well as what we coordinated with the different formations, that there was an assessment that there were no children on that particular target, and that was the assessment by the military community at large, period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jeff, thanks much for this link.  I’ve put an update and link in the main post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-773618"><em>jeff @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>From a <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3995">Pentagon briefing</a> dated today:</p>
<p>Q: One more follow-up, if I could. We’re also told that U.S. forces, contrary to earlier reports, knew that there were children in that compound at the time of the attack, but that the target was considered such high value that it was considered worth the risk at the time. Is that the case, and what was the thinking behind that? </p>
<p>COL. SCHWEITZER: That’s absolutely not the case. That’s an incorrect item that was reported. I read a similar report this morning on the net, and some of those facts appeared to be accurate. I can guarantee you personally, as well as what we coordinated with the different formations, that there was an assessment that there were no children on that particular target, and that was the assessment by the military community at large, period.</p>
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<p>Jeff, thanks much for this link.  I’ve put an update and link in the main post.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3995&quot;&gt;Pentagon briefing&lt;/a&gt; dated today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Q: One more follow-up, if I could. We’re also told that U.S. forces, contrary to earlier reports, knew that there were children in that compound at the time of the attack, but that the target was considered such high value that it was considered worth the risk at the time. Is that the case, and what was the thinking behind that? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;COL. SCHWEITZER: That’s absolutely not the case. That’s an incorrect item that was reported. I read a similar report this morning on the net, and some of those facts appeared to be accurate. I can guarantee you personally, as well as what we coordinated with the different formations, that there was an assessment that there were no children on that particular target, and that was the assessment by the military community at large, period.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3995">Pentagon briefing</a> dated today:</p>
<p>Q: One more follow-up, if I could. We’re also told that U.S. forces, contrary to earlier reports, knew that there were children in that compound at the time of the attack, but that the target was considered such high value that it was considered worth the risk at the time. Is that the case, and what was the thinking behind that? </p>
<p>COL. SCHWEITZER: That’s absolutely not the case. That’s an incorrect item that was reported. I read a similar report this morning on the net, and some of those facts appeared to be accurate. I can guarantee you personally, as well as what we coordinated with the different formations, that there was an assessment that there were no children on that particular target, and that was the assessment by the military community at large, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773615</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK K @ 37,43,48,54&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are in top form today particularly @ 37 - exquisite&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK K @ 37,43,48,54</p>
<p>You are in top form today particularly @ 37 &#8211; exquisite</p>
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		<title>By: shootthatarrow&#62;&#62;&#62;</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/21/does-us-war-policy-now-target-children/#comment-773610</link>
		<dc:creator>shootthatarrow&#62;&#62;&#62;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;…between the American sanctioned torture and incidents such as this heartbreaking one it surely must seem to very large numbers of Iraqis trying to outlive Americans being in their land that we are the Devils and Evil Ones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incredibly G.W.Bush seems fully incapable of seeing what he has brought about in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the America many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis see week in and week out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For these poor souls what we see on our cable channels such as DISCOVERY CHANNEL as neat and oh so cool fighter jets,weaponry and laser guided kill ability they see where all that leads to and ends.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is American Militarism and Empire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We Americans had best stop using Hitler and his Nazi monsters as the standard of showing how much better we Americans were in WW2 or are today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because that has become a big lie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Truth here being we are the monsters doing this and the angels only know what else day in and day out in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Saddam did this because he was monstrous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How then do Americans claim to be better than Saddam when we do this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who are the bad guys in this story?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Americans.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…between the American sanctioned torture and incidents such as this heartbreaking one it surely must seem to very large numbers of Iraqis trying to outlive Americans being in their land that we are the Devils and Evil Ones.</p>
<p>Incredibly G.W.Bush seems fully incapable of seeing what he has brought about in Iraq.</p>
<p>This is the America many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis see week in and week out.</p>
<p>For these poor souls what we see on our cable channels such as DISCOVERY CHANNEL as neat and oh so cool fighter jets,weaponry and laser guided kill ability they see where all that leads to and ends.</p>
<p>This is American Militarism and Empire.</p>
<p>We Americans had best stop using Hitler and his Nazi monsters as the standard of showing how much better we Americans were in WW2 or are today.</p>
<p>Because that has become a big lie.</p>
<p>Truth here being we are the monsters doing this and the angels only know what else day in and day out in Iraq.</p>
<p>Saddam did this because he was monstrous.</p>
<p>How then do Americans claim to be better than Saddam when we do this?</p>
<p>Who are the bad guys in this story?</p>
<p>The Americans.</p>
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