There is something delicious about reading secret wiretaps. It’s like, well, all of a sudden looking out your bedroom window and seeing that the neighbors have forgotten to draw down the bedroom shades in the late evening. It’s more than you ever wanted to know or see. On the other hand, it can also be boring and stupid and inane. (Have you ever taped your own phone calls and then had the painful experience of having to listen to yourself going on and on and on…)
But thanks to the FBI wiretaps I’ve found – well, not exactly heart pounding secrets but some uncovered or realized information. (Competition is the soul of investigative and interpretative journalism and soul food, the “exclusive.”)
The government, in the spirit of openness and transparency, has to provide transcripts of the wiretapped phone conversations of the co-conspirators to the defense teams. It’s the law of discovery. The defense gets to “know” what evidence, what “cards” the prosecution is holding. In this case part (the most important part of the government’s case against Padilla and his two co-conspirators, Adham Hossoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi) is wiretaps, and the alleged criminal plans the accused were drawing up over the phone.
The cover page of each phone call intercept has detailed information about the call: the day (in this case September 9, 2000, one of 300,000 phone conversations recorded,) time, phone number calling from. Next the phone call number calling to. After that, the, language spoken, e.g. English, Arabic, transcript file name (they are using Word Perfect.) That is followed by, translated by, transcript date, reviewed by/on, case file #, followed by key to abbreviations, and the participants in the conversation, in this case:
AD: Adham Hassoun (one two other co-conspirators along with Jose Padilla,)
MY: Mohamed Youssef, (who the AP’s Curt Anderson describe as another “Hassoun recruit who helped Padilla make his way to Afghanistan.”] and
UF: Unidentified Female.
Here’s what’s very strange:
The target telephone number is obviously in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl – long time home of Adham Hassoun (who’s wife I told you Friday was caught on tape complaining about how even though she and her husband knew the phones were taped, that he’d talk and talk and talk.)
On the day in question, September 9,2002, Hassoun receives a call from Mohammed Youssef . Youssef’s phone, however, is located in Southwestern Washington D.C. from a location close to the Capitol. The phone is operated by Verizon Washington DC which describes itself as “one of the world’s leading providers of high growth communications services, serving more than 300,000 customers in Washington, D.C. (Not to be confused with VERIZON WIRELESS.)
The target of the wiretaps was in Ft. Lauderdale –Hassoun’s phone. Hausson was the suspect. The person calling him (from Washington, D.C.) – Youssef – was not a target. He did not have a wiretap on the phone he was using.
However the CLLI data of the caller, Youssef, is very significant. Follow me:
Tracing the phone that Youssef used – the calling phone – reveals “CLLI=WASHDCESWDSA.” Translation: “CLLI” stands for Common Language Location Identification. It is a telephone industry acronym – a total of an 11 letters or “character descriptor” that identifies switches, connection points, multiplexers, interconnections and other parts of the phone network. The first four letters of the code –WASH – is the geographic area., Washington. The next two letters refers to the geopolitical code –in this case DC. The SW part of the code after WASH DC means the phone is in the Southwest section of DC. The final three characters, DSA, tell us the network site code, in this case, the phone line or switch that Hassoun was using was serviced by Verizon via the Verizon operated central office for the South West Section of Washington, DC.
In this instance, the specific block of phone numbers – the first three numbers (not including the DC area code 202) Youssef was calling from – were (202) 878, as (202). 878. Those numbers as in 878-xxxx, –are allocated to VERIZON DC customers But other phone users are also within that same 878-xxxx block as well, including US government office phones belonging to the Department of Energy, the House of Representatives, the State Department and FBI.
What was Mohammed Youssef doing, calling a terrorist suspect from a phone perhaps a thousand yards from the Capitol Building?
While the phone conversation was in Arabic and translated by “M.S.”sixteen days later on September 25, 2002, it isn’t until February 13, 2006, three and a half years later, that the “review of the transcriptions” begins.
What is more astonishing is that the review was conducted by “M.S.” – the person who did the original translation. Professional espionage trade craft calls for two independent translators to review the interpretation of the first translator and, if there inconsistencies or differences, a third independent translator would be used to resolve the differences. “M.S.” was sole judge and jury of the correctness of his/her translations and interpretations since the FBI agent testifying about the tapes neither speaks nor reads Arabic.
Still, the jury cannot avoid the the “heart” (or rather left ventricle) of the what appears to be the prosecution’s case against Padilla? Here’s how the AP’s Curt Anderson heard the government’s case:
In the July 1997 intercepted phone call, [where] co defendant Adham Amin Hassoun tells Padilla in English that “the most important thing is that you tell me you’re ready.” The FBI’s lead investigator in the case claims that Hassoun was talking about going to an area of jihad, or Islamic holy war.
“God willing … it’s going to happen soon,” Padilla responds. He later adds: “Believe me, brother, it’s going to happen soon.”
Padilla also tells Hassoun that he is prepared to obey an emir, or commander, wherever he is sent, even if that person is younger.
“You have to have a lot of discipline too, brother,” Padilla says on the tape. “You have to have discipline and obedience….”
On other calls, Youssef mentions a “partner” whom the FBI identified as Padilla, who was using the alias “Ibrahim” at the time. “Does he intend to go through with it?” Youssef asks Hassoun.
“Yes, he had reservations about the price, but then he said all right, if this is the only price, we will buy,” Hassoun replies..
So, maybe two sides to the heart of the case, The “right ventricle” phone conversations and the left ventricle, calls from someone deep within the conspiracy plot from a phone a thousand yards from the United States Capitol.
The phone number listed in the officials document was 202-878-XXXX. I didn’t try the number since I was loath to talking on the phone lest an FBI agent, or CIA, or NSA or someone perhaps from Blackwater, CIAC or a dozen other government contractors might be listening in. But hey, you know, it wouldn’t be the first time I was on a tapped phone.
(With Rachel M. Koch)
Lew can be reached at lew dot koch at gmail dot com.
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zunoed?
Hey Lew! Hey Rachel!
not zed?
vier
Hey all and hey dakine0 at 2
As I can well attest, that number, if not a gov’t number, has most likely changed hands two to four times since that recording. And it may well have done so even if it was a gov’t number at one time.
Tin foil hat firmly in place: the call came from a State Department or FBI telephone because the whole thing is an intelligence operation set-up.
Just a wild guess.
Wish I had more like this guy in Ohio:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..-ohio.html
One in every state and this country would look like it’s supposed to.
I may be simpleminded, but I don’t get the point of this post.
hi lew:
Are there FISA implications here?
Okay. I have to read this a couple of times, so I don’t say something more stupid than I’m going to say, but…ahem…are you saying Youssef was not Padilla’s “friend”? :)
Sounds like a set-up. Why? Why at that time, did they feel compelled to do that, if in fact they did, since I’m probably confused…
BTW, so since they were wiretapping these guys liberally at the time, (phone call to phone call using Verizon, within the U.S.)…were they going through the FISA courts???
Silly questions, I’m sure. Set me straight.
Whoa! (That’s not a zed attempt.) This case seems part and parcel of the entire history of the Bush administration. Just when you think it just can’t get any more bizarre/criminal/appalling/disgusting, it does.
scarlet p. @ 8
my new favorite slogan;
“the war is a lie and you know it”
man that says it all…I like this guy tons
Aha, plausibility, that people like Padilla were planning this long before 9/11….for when, afterwards, they could point fingers…?
Fern at 9
There were two “sides” to the post. The first was I had tried to convey was that all was not as it appeared– the transcript including a phone number close the Capitol. What was a person involved with a conspiracy plot doing there — especially when there was also a distinct possibility that the caller might be “working” for agencies. In other words, a set up.
The other side was — well, some of that conversation seemed — to use another Chicago term — hinkey and I thought that needed to be said was well.
Well, well! Mr. Koch, you just may have stumbled upon some “things”. Consider:
1. in 2002, the feds had a wiretap into a Florida phone. The type of tap would also reveal source….location, #, etc. of the caller??? A trap and trace perhaps? Any court authorization for same?
2.”In the July 1997 intercepted phone call,”….well, well! This goes back that many years???? Mr. Koch, cover the trial….but you’ve just stumbled upon a whole bunch of “other stuff”.
Ghostman
Wow! Lew, who do you think was on the other end of the phone?
TexB @ 17
Dick Chenousef
At least Nixon resigned….
DING!
Lew – I see two suggested emendations in the following paragraph:
would be willing to bet that if it was a Fed phone number in DC, it still is (and probably still rings on the same desk!). try it from a payphone!
I don’t put anything past this administration. I don’t think anything is out of bounds in the so-called Justice Department. They are bound and determined to vindicate Ashcroft, Bush and everyone else who had a hand in taking away his citizen’s rights. Do I think they’re beyond this, beyond setting someone up? Not in a New York minute!
FISA in my estimation as been like Charlie McCarthy to Edgar Bergin-Bush.
TiredFed @ 21
They’re just about dumb enough for that, eh?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 20
Where’s S.E.??? What were the initials of the person she was all up in arms about making bad translations???? Probably completely unrelated. A stab in the Darksyde.
Stephen Parrish, CPA at 20
According to a professional spy catcher I’m in contact with, the proffered translations are open to challenge. It was done outside protocols and standards.
Sorry all — I confused myself — damn. Sole, yeah,
Lew Koch @ 26
Fish for supper?
So this would mean Youssef has handlers. It would be worthwhile to examine his involvement in other affairs and his contacts.
TexB at 27
fish and a side order of word-crow.
The logic to the answer lies here somewhere here, I’m not joking – this is not snark:
http://www.kidsreads.com/serie…..titles.asp
Were all phones being tapped in the Washington Capitol area? Or just Padilla?
Slothrop at 28
I have no idea what the defense has in store, As I’ve stated before, Judge Cooke has clamped down something fierce. I don’t blame the defense for not talking or leaking or hinting. We just have to wait.
LS @ 30
I mean this in the most respectful way:
LS, are you feeling alright? That’s a list of Nancy Drew juvenile mystery novels. Is that the link you wanted to post?
And if your next post is “follow the money”, I sweartaghod I’m diving across Teh Toobz and strangling you…
ccmask at 31
I don’t think we have a clue of just how “creative” the NSA could get. Is it possible to tap every phone in DC. Sure, all you need is enough computer power. Take a look at how powerful Google is! The problem is looking for key words and phrases and it probably makes it easier if you’re calling someone who’s been suspect since 1994.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 33
Alfred, it is me, LS, who posted that not Lew!
I’m talking about the simple logic of stupid things criminal minds do, and the author of the mysteries often broke it down to those kinds of clues. Lew has nothing to do with this. Obviously, this is an extremely scary concept that he is presenting here. The criminals are still stupid.
cspan-3 shows an old hearing from 2006. Is that “Monica” sitting behind the witness?? sorry for off subject
ghostman
LS at 35
That is exactly what has driven my interest in Padilla. Not just him — but the agencies and power set up against him. How many people, just to use one example, could withstand three and a half years of sensory deprivation? What is in the minds of the people who put those eye masks and ear mufflers on him. When is torture the norm? And that’s only one element to the Padilla story.
I had so much to say but yall know what. it doesn’t mean a thing. the next chance any of these poor bastards has of possibly being released will be after january of 09 and then, only if a dem get the presidency. So, big effing deal. this country is totally dead. stone cold dead. the dems and the goopers are in the same bed. the lights are low and the two questions that they are deciding about are: who’s on top and how are the bucks gonna be split up.
OT.
Osama Bin Laden himself may have chartered the plane that flew
Bin Laden members from the US after 9/11.
Will that be Mastercard or Visa, Mr. Bin Laden?
LS @ 35
Yeah, I figured that all out about 1 femtosecond after I hit the “submit” key. Poster’s Remorse.
Actually, of course, you are quite right. Criminals ARE stupid, and give themselves away in many ways to those trained to spot such. This also applies to intelligence and national security. I’ll provide a simple example from memory. During my years in harness, we had a real dustup about the fact that the Soviets had suddenly acquired a complete list of all the nuclear warheads in our strategic arsenal, broken down by location and weapon type. The big boys were going NUTS trying to find the mole.
Eventually we got ahold of the agent who had done it. He was an embassy flack who, as a habit, subscribed to every technical and business journal that was published at that time which might even remotely be connected to the nuclear weapons program. After three years of careful study, he realized that a specific part was used in various configurations by EVERY AMERICAN NUCLEAR WARHEAD. It was a very mundane part, a locking washer or something, but it was unique and only used by nuclear devices (it was made of special metals because of weakening of ordinary ones from radiation…not my field). Bottom line, he then searched the available information in GSA documents (unclassified ones) until he found where each part type was sent and how many. The rest was trivial.
allan_in_upstate @ 39
Bloody……Hell……
…….
I REALLY don’t want to believe 9/11 was a false flag operation, I really don’t….
(looking under bed for tin foil hat)
billjpa at 38
I just waiting for one damn reporter to ask the candidates if they’ve ever heard about Padilla and if so, what would you do about that case.
“Meredith Diliberto, an attorney with Judicial Watch, said that her group had seen a first version of the documents in 2005, although the FBI had heavily redacted the texts to black out names, including all references to bin Laden.
Nevertheless, unedited footnotes in the texts allowed lawyers to determine that bin Laden’s name had been redacted.”
They forgot about the footnotes. These are the folks in charge of our national security.
Alfred Kelgarries at 40
What a nightmare story! But it’s just another example of what Herman Kahn described when he aid the life expectancy of a secret, especially a government secret, is about a year and a half.
Lew Koch at 44
…which is why it is beyond me that the government could ever believe they could countenance torture without word getting out.
Lew Koch @ 34
In a word. Yup
http://www.eff.org/news/archiv…..php#005304
Several months back the NYTimes had an article about how the FBI was chasing pizza delivery guys around, sounds like it..
OT but worth remembering.. Gonzales is still Attorney General…
It IS odd conversation. If they’re moslems- then most juries will probably figure that they were up to no good.
john in sacramento at 46
Great thanks. I have, never since 1965, never ever spoken over the phone (and later written in e-mail) anything that I believed was free from other eyes. If I want to say something private, I make sure it’s said in a very private place. Paranoid? Of course. Even paranoids have….
rwcole @ 49
Not odd but sad..
Lew Koch @ 50
I am following the same philosophy.
Lew Koch @ 44
Mostly. Some secrets don’t ever seem to get out, others get out almost anticlimactically.
But in this case the four-letter acronym MICE comes into play. It stands for Money Ideology Conscience Ego, the four building blocks of a espionage agent. I’ll give examples: the sergeant (cannot remember his name) who sold the soviets secrets during the 1980’s did it for pure bucks (money). The scientists who gave the soviets the hydrogen bomb data in the 1950’s and were executed for it did so because they felt it was the right thing to do (conscience). The FBI mole (hansen! ha!) did it solely out the kicks of deceiving his FBI colleagues, who he despised. (ego).
But in this situation, we have the most slippery of motivations: ideology. I have begun to realize that the net effect of mr bush and his administration has been to bring out in the open the thousands of people in responsible positions who, in fact, have a very different ideology than the majority of americans. We see that ideology at work in the padilla trial.
But, as any spook worth his polonium will tell you, people in responsible positions who are driven by ideology will hire based on ideology, and not on competence. We see that in the matter of the ignored footnotes.
And, to put it simply, this may be the b*st*rds downfall. we shall see.
Lew Koch @ 50
Although I hate to waste tax payer money I will admit to answering the phone Osama, Saddam a few times..
I’ll say this, I know what I believe from the bottom of my gut (heart), and at least they can’t wire tap that!! I follow my gut, and I don’t believe the official story for one minute. If I don’t think it rings true, I chuck it. Lew, what I gather from what you have reported rings true, and I make my own conclusions.
Alfred, that is an amazing story!
Lew Koch @ 37
Right On, Lew! Thanks again for your perseverance and time to keep us updated here at the Lake! The torture is the most tragic aspect of this whole travesty, however, I think the spookiest part is the far-ranging wiretaps conducted on American Soil! I hope the Defense Team questions the legality of the Taps, the NSL, etc…
LS @ 55
Thanks. I’m sure it’s been written up online by now, it is a famous example of real world espionage. I was only a spectator, but a couple of my friends could have gotten burned if the witch hunt had gone on much longer.
TexB @ 23
it’s the little things that trip up the typical criminal. phone numbers you can’t change easily (lotsa paperwork, got to get the phone guy to come by, he’s busy or on vacation, etc.). yeah, they are just about that dumb (or arrogant, take your pick).
Alfred Kelgarries at 40
Who, in your estimation, has written well on this subject?
Lew Koch @ 50
Reminds me of my days in Moscow. Same stress. Never mention anyone’s name you know in a hotel room. Funny how that feeling keeps coming back over the past five years.
Lew, Can you get any read on the jury.. do you think he will be just another scapecoat?
Lew Koch @ 59
Ouch. The best book I ever read on it was done by a retired MI6 guy in england who worked a lot on rooting out the soviet moles in his shop, and in the process ending up collaborating a lot with cia and nsa and such. It’s a sanctioned book, IE he didn’t break the official secrets act. I can’t remember the title now, the book itself is in a box in storage across town. I have your email, i’ll send the name and isbn to you; it is probably out of print, tho. If you can’t find another copy I’ll loan you mine.
JPL at 61
I’d be lying if I said I had the faintest clue — and I don’t think anyone of the lawyers know, nor even the judge. I do know the judge has the right to toss the case out on her own discretion and she believed it would be in the interest of justice, but that would take a pair of brass balls the size of Cleveland
Alfred Kelgarries at 62
Or if it’s available on abebooks.com
Knut — My mom tells stories of her college-alumnae group trip to Moscow during the eighties: returning to her hotel room to find everything slightly out of kilter. And befriended by strangers in cafes, who seemed very interested in chatting up her — and her roommate/travel companion.
That her roommate was a retired career employee from the Other Government Agency (Langley branch) never seemed to have occurred to Mom as a possible reason for such close observation….
Alfred Kelgarries @ 53
I love the spy craft. But I think only Ethel and Julius Rosenberg ( not scientists) were executed. Klaus Fuchs, who did give the Soviets secrets, ended up directing nuclear research in E. Germany.
Lew Koch @ 64
right. I’ll check there before I email. Be a day or two, we just had an inland hurricane here in San Antonio and we’re currently busy mopping up all the water. slop, slop, slop.
Lew, I imagine you are somewhat heartened by the al-Marri decision in the 4th circuit. it is a small step in the right direction.
Frank33 @ 66
I think of them as scientists, but you’re right of course. But Fuchs was ideology, was he not? So he didn’t fit the parameter I wanted to illustrate.
Another fine example of Ego are all the upper crust english boys who, upon learning they weren’t going to inherit the old Empire, turned into raving marxists and sold their talents to the soviets out of pure pique. Blech.
TeddySanFran @ 65
The interesting thing about this story is that on some level, it did, indeed, occur to her, or she would not have been able to relate the story that way and connect the dots. We know, what we know, we just don’t always believe it is happening to us when it happens.
Lew @ 50
Heehee ;-)
Thanks for all you’ve done, I’ve really learned a lot in the last few years about what certain people are capable of and … I don’t know, I don’t care what they’ve seen me write in emails and said to other people, I’ve never advocated any subversion … unless you count joining the local DFA group and getting elected to the local ACLU board, and if that’s subversive (or whatever word) I guess I’m that.
I usually have to wait to read your posts because of different meetings … sheesh, taking your country back is hard work :-) … but I really learn a lot from them
Thanks Lew
TeddySanFran at 65
Hughes Rudd was the Moscow correspondent for CBS News around 1963. He was a Paris Review award winning short story winner. He wrote a story for Esquire called “My Escape from the CIA.” It was the tale of an attempt to recruit him. Hilarious piece. His writings were collected and published under the title, “My Escape from the CIA and other stories.” One hundred copies of the book were sent to him in Moscow. He received 90.
Later, at a cocktail party given by the KGB, the head hocho came up to him and said, “That’s a very interesting book, Mr. Rudd.”
Naturally Hughes had NOT previously given him one.
john in sacramento @71
I’m waiting for Lew’s book. I feel certain he’ll do one, and that it will get published. the timing will be just right: an expose of government malfeasance in the padilla case while the big trials are going on in washington (why yes, I AM an incurable optimist, why do you ask?) :>
Lew Koch @ 72
They love to be “obvious”. “Catch me if you can”…
Lew Koch @ 72
Did you read the recent expose of the british wi fi espionage statue in a moscow park? Tis true. The brits set up a statue, very lovely, concealing a wifi receiver which encrypted the transmissions from specially equipped pocket pcs of agents and shunted them over the internet to the agency involved. The problem was, agent were flocking around the darn thing like pigeons, and the FSB got suspicious. Doh.
TiredFed at 68
You gotta read Glenn Greenwald at Salon on al-Marri. It is breathtaking!
=Alfred Kelgarries @ 73
I’d buy Lew’s book. somebody needs to report on our justice system trying terrorism or non-terrorism cases. Somehow I think that a book will be written decades from now comparing our treatment of Muslims similar to Japanese-Americans in World War II.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 53:
John Walker Jr and I believe his son and brother or brother-in-law
Greetings firepups from Jane, Pach, and Marcy. Marcy is a guest here at chez egregious for a couple days.
So it goes, Judy in Disguise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeXKLdY6bro
dakine01 @ 78
Right. Walker, Rosenberg, Hanson. I’m awful with names but never forget a face.
Has anyone seen Breach (the movie version of Hanson) or it is out yet?
Sorry Lew, major OT, Favorite team the Red Sox beat my home town team the Braves tonight. I know it’s a shallow comment with everything happening in the world but sometimes you just need a diversion…
egregious @ 79
Hi back
egregious @ 79
greetings back. we’re reveling in the possibility of Scoots getting a fair appeal panel and trading old spy stories. In other words, a normal day at the lake.
egregious @ 79
Are you having a partay????
Lew-
Unlike the tea ladies post, I GOT THE POINT without trouble. !!!! (contra Fern, sorry m’dear ;) )
I skimmed through the comments rather quickly- but first question- any way of getting the extra xxxx digits?
Great reporting, Lew.
VG
JPL et al]
I just wrote the “Introduction” — the “selling” introduction my agent demands, and I will start writing the first two chapters. What is scary the
amount of “Six Degrees of Separation” is contained in his story — from the git go — five years and he has connected with just about every single bastard in one way or another, in every form of unconstitutional act possible. The Bill of Rights, in his case, has been completely shattered by the very people charged with upholding those rights,
egregious @ 79
What? I thought you were in Russia! Hi and love to all.
Question, did you use that little camera while Marcy was speaking ?
and are you going to screen it here?egregious @ 79
Question: did you use that little camera while Marcy was speaking? and are you going to screen it here?
Lew Koch @ 76
I would NOT want to be facing Glenn Greenwald in a court room. He is just preternaturally brilliant.
Lew Koch @ 76
I will. thanks. read the diary over at Kos, then the opinion itself. quite a read itself.
Lew Koch @ 87
Good for you! Write the book and throw it at them! We got your back Lew.
LS @ 92
seriously. have your agent up to speed on the fact that every post you make here is seen by upwards of TWO MILLION viewers every time. Check Jane’s advertising pages for details.
egregious @ 79
Coolness! Hello, everyone!
Vally Girl at 86
Thanks sooooo much. Nice to have you here.
And about the wiretapping, they used to use carnivore but they’ve since outsourced it (the spying) to corporations like …
Narus, who uses a program called NarusInsight Intercept Suite
Hi Lew, too
All:
You people are all sooooooo cool! It’s great, even if I can’t differentiate between sole and soul!
Lew Koch @ 95
Thanks to you too! I probably have missed a post or two of yours in a timely way, so I didn’t comment, but they are always a must read.
Lew, you got soul!
LS @ 92
I hate to be more pessimistic but the Bill of Rights was shattered when Bush first came into office before 9/11.
WaPoO chatz tomorrow; questions accepted anytime!
Dan Balz at 11am eastern
Dana Priest at 12:30pm eastern
Just remembered something from earlier today when I went to the to reload my dad’s six medicines (as he says, keeping him alive at 91 takes a lot of pharmaceutical intervention!). As I was checking out, the cashier handed me a printout that said, if I would give them my email address, they’d send me a coupon worth 4$ off on prescriptions. I said sure. What interested me is that this is the first time I’ve had this happen; a big company solicits email addresses. Somebody in corporate america may be waking up to the power of Teh Toobz.
JPL @ 101
The “shattering of the Bill of Rights” was just a go****n piece of paper. We rule, not those imposters.
Lew, You are doing such a service although to few to ears or readers. Even though we live in the south our daily newspaper is the NYTimes and their coverage is slim to non existent.
boing boing (forward facing two and half somersaults, double twisting, pike position) no splash
g’evening everyone
another great post, lew. thank you
(yes, i am wearing my prison orange diving suit in honor of libby being prison bound)
Alfred Kelgarries @ 103
Advise you to check the company’s privacy policy, AK, before giving them your address. You may find your mailbox full of, well, crap, otherwise. Unlikely they are paying you for an address they don’t plan to resell to others, whose policies you won’t know….
Hey y’all!!!
Mr Koch I think that maybe all these guys got framed.
Lew, so back to the question- any way to get the extra digits in the DC phone number?
And, point of info, who would have seen the actual phone #, and what were the steps/ who were the people in between that yielded the xxxx? Is the prosecution privy to the original phone number? Variant of “follow the money” – “follow the phone number…”
Suzanne @ 106
smoothe
nice dive, Suzanne, and a fetching color on you indeed!
SnarKassandra @ 108
Truth from the mouth of “babes”. :)
TeddySanFran @ 107
I have a different address I use for stuff like that. Not my real address.
TSF @107:
I have LOTS of email addresses for just that purpose. I’m currently sysadmin of a small but server-heavy company with spam and spyware filters out the kazoo. I made one up on the spot and then went home and created it. Any spam or spyware that finds its way into that honeypot server, well, to quote mr T: “I pity da fool!”
(Nasty sysadmin smile…)
Will be an even better color on libby, teddy (waving across the coast range)
john in sacramento at 96
Those pages are printing out as we speak. For a few years I wrote about hackers and hacking. Spent some fun time with people on the dark side. (My favs were Cult of the Dead Cow.) One of G’s was Richard A. Clarke (yes that one) who I have to say was a tad hysterical about the forthcoming cyberwar to end all cyberwars. TIA (Total Information Awareness) was just beginning to raise its ugly head — which means, of course, that it had been implemented a decade before.
Prison bound.
Anything at all like “Homeward Bound”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixH54kRJM9Y
oops I got modded. my fault. sorry mods, i’m learning as fast as I can…
TSF @107: i run a honeypot server. no problemos.
Suzanne @106: orange is not your color. I’d say more dark blue, or maybe taupe…
Loo Hoo. @ 116
only oranger
Can you publish the last 4 digits of the phone number? I’ll be happy to call it and see if it’s a gov number.
I freed it AK, refresh and it is there… not my best color and you are right about the blue but…. ya’ll will just have to suffer until libby does the perp walk :)
Lew Koch @ 116
Dammit, I KNEW I knew your name. Well, small world izzn it? Do you remember the Phone Phreaks? A lot of them ended up working for the govt, IIRC?
Lew Koch @ 98
These are the Times that dry men’s soles.
Valley Girl at 109
You know how your phone can give you the name of the caller (if it’s not purposely blocked by the caller) If that’s the kind of information I can get, can you just imagine what the feds and their consultants have (the consultants they use so the Feds don’t have to break the law themselves.) Just hire it out, like you do for torture.
I have the original number (as does every reporter covering the case.) They could have come up with that same information if the had checked.
But it’s FDL policy not to publish full telephone numbers which is the reason it’s not on the post.
Who are the Phone Phreakds??
TeddySanFran @ 102
Question for Dana Priest: How does it feel to know that no op-ed columnist at the Post, with the possible exceptions of E.J. Dionne and Eugene Robinson, has ever read any of your articles?
Suzanne @ 121
thanx, I REALLY am learning, not willing to do unto other sysops what I don’t want done undo me…:)
I WANT that vid. AND Rove’s. AND Cheney’s. AND Chimpy’s. Then I want Scalia and Thomas Impeached, and Roberts and Alito Impeached AND disbarred. Rummie goes to the hague and spends the rest of his misbegotten life in a cell there. And then, having gotten warmed up, we cant really get down to business.
Hmm. Testy tonight, aint I?
Blind Faith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAxSQBCXPk
JPL @ 125
IIRC they were a bunch of kids who built “black boxes” that allowed them to by-pass all the phone company checks and balances and make free long distance calls.
A couple of them wound up going to jail but most got clean away. Old time bulletin board type stuff… Early techno geeks in operation.
JPL @ 125
From Wikipedia : Linky.
It’s too complex to summarize in a comment, I’m afraid.
DAILY SHOW!!!!!!!
TRex up:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..etraction/
Trex is here!
Jipsum at 119
Can’t give you the number here. It’s FDL policy.
TRex is upstairs with Late Nite
Alfred Kelgarries
Your name is very familiar. Send me an e-mail. I knew a phew of those phone phreaks as well
Lew Koch @ 123
WOW! Geez- I totally missed that subtlety! Thanks for the clarification, Lew.
“Every reporter covering the case” ?? From what you’ve said before this is a really really small cadre.
You need to get Mary on that one! Or the tea ladies ;)
Have none of the reporters actually phoned the number to see what’s up? Although, alas, the tracks have already been covered.
But, did you try a reverse phone look-up on the internet? Used to be possible to do that via some site or other that I found way back when via google.
Valley Girl at 136
Actually check my column Friday and you’ll see example of really good reporting from the Padilla trial. I think you’ll like it
Lew- so, is it still possible to do a “reverse phone look-up”? Used to be possible to enter a phone number, and find the name and address of the person at that phone number. I’m sure the telemarketers were onto this, big time.
Lew,
for example,
http://www.reversephonedirectory.com/
if anyone is still here, can you clue me in? what is the “really scarey” part here? Timeline? Potential set-up? Early wiretaps?
going back to re-read.
Lew, and/or anybody else
Here’s a good newsletter on computer and other security issues
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0706.html
Gotta go grab some food. See ya L8r
Gunga Djinn @ 140
The location of the phone number.
Lew, Rachel -
amazing work.
journalism lives – in both of you.
thank you
Lew – if you can’t publish it here, can you tell me where I can get it? I will call it right now. And if no one answers, then I’ll try again in the am.
O.K., the location, DC near the Capitol.
So what does that mean?
a) Coincidence
b) Padilla was set-up
c)?
more? less? what?
I’m not trying to be a smart alec, but if this is about Padilla potentially being set-up by the Feds, I assumed that about 5 minutes after hearing of his arrest.
LS @ 30
The Tale of the Tapped Telephone… Where is Nancy Drew when you need her?
I admit to not following this case as closely as I could have, but it seems to me that every time I hear any evidence from it it sounds like some guys who are talking about going elsewhere to engage in jihad. Like going to Afghanistan to fight Russians. Or to Chetchnya. Or to some place I never heard of. Yousif (A/k/a “Ibrahim”) has reservations about the price? It must be expensive to get to the stans.
I know I am missing something, but what is it?