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		<title>By: MadEye Moody</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-773500</link>
		<dc:creator>MadEye Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bloomberg is the new nader.  he’ll siphon votes away from democrats to indulge his self-aggrandization.  as we all know from history, that story doesn’t end well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s also the asshole who pre-emptively arrested peaceful protesters during the Republican National Convention (aka, dancing on the graves of September 11) to preserve the flawless media presentation of the George W. Bush coronation.  having lived under that particular period of martial law, i would not want to see him as commander in chief.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bloomberg is best known for his patronizing “my way or the highway” style of governing. he’s smarter than Rudy, and way more successful, but the temperment is the same - an autocrat.  so you can just shut up already with the democracy stuff - he’ll let you know how things are going to be done.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloomberg is the new nader.  he’ll siphon votes away from democrats to indulge his self-aggrandization.  as we all know from history, that story doesn’t end well.</p>
<p>he’s also the asshole who pre-emptively arrested peaceful protesters during the Republican National Convention (aka, dancing on the graves of September 11) to preserve the flawless media presentation of the George W. Bush coronation.  having lived under that particular period of martial law, i would not want to see him as commander in chief.  </p>
<p>Bloomberg is best known for his patronizing “my way or the highway” style of governing. he’s smarter than Rudy, and way more successful, but the temperment is the same &#8211; an autocrat.  so you can just shut up already with the democracy stuff &#8211; he’ll let you know how things are going to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: DelRPCV</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-773156</link>
		<dc:creator>DelRPCV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those who want to maintain that Hillary is cold and doesn’t connect with an audience clearly haven’t heard her speak recently because she was anything but. She was actually very winning and warm and people really liked her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess different people hear what they want to hear.  I still hear the grating drone of talking points.  And you do realize the candidates pack these things with their supporters to act as shills, right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those who want to maintain that Hillary is cold and doesn’t connect with an audience clearly haven’t heard her speak recently because she was anything but. She was actually very winning and warm and people really liked her.</p>
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<p>I guess different people hear what they want to hear.  I still hear the grating drone of talking points.  And you do realize the candidates pack these things with their supporters to act as shills, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-772882</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Larue:  you are ROCKIN’… :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you feel a firm ass-pat, and look around, and no one is there, it’ll be one Steven Gilliard, “voting” for you.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s WAAAAY too late to “influence” Clinton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hell, I don’t WANT to influence her.   She’s free to speak her mind, and she’s doing it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What could be fairer? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  To me, her parroting of the NEW, GOP talking point; that the Iraqis have somehow failed poor little, hardworking-with-only-their-best-interests-at-heart, george bush, is absolutely OBSCENE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, this is pure, Rovian, pornspeak…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s Clinton walking around in front of a sleazy theater that’s showing bush and the republican’s bloody snuff-flick, while she wears a sandwichboard that says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   “Movie Revoo!   Good stuff!  Y’all come on  in!”   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The more I think about her saying it, the more it pisses me off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larue:  you are ROCKIN’… :o)</p>
<p>If you feel a firm ass-pat, and look around, and no one is there, it’ll be one Steven Gilliard, “voting” for you.  :o)</p>
<p>It’s WAAAAY too late to “influence” Clinton.</p>
<p>Hell, I don’t WANT to influence her.   She’s free to speak her mind, and she’s doing it.</p>
<p>What could be fairer? </p>
<p>  To me, her parroting of the NEW, GOP talking point; that the Iraqis have somehow failed poor little, hardworking-with-only-their-best-interests-at-heart, george bush, is absolutely OBSCENE.</p>
<p>I mean, this is pure, Rovian, pornspeak…</p>
<p>It’s Clinton walking around in front of a sleazy theater that’s showing bush and the republican’s bloody snuff-flick, while she wears a sandwichboard that says:</p>
<p>   “Movie Revoo!   Good stuff!  Y’all come on  in!”   </p>
<p>The more I think about her saying it, the more it pisses me off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo-Ann</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-772879</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771627&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;JaneaneTheAcerbicGoblin @ 181&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m not a big fan of Hillary, but lately she’s been more like the old Hillary I remember from 1992.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Mod: &lt;em&gt;snip&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a different world from the carefree 90’s and the issues are more stark. Hillary will be the now President, with the social issues in the forefront. And she’ll return to the diplomatic school of stopping and preventing preemptive war.&lt;br /&gt;
 My other thought is serious. Many of you would vote for Hillary, but say “but she can’t win”. She WILL win if YOU vote for her. It’s the agregate of all votes….one vote at a time that a winner makes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771627"><em>JaneaneTheAcerbicGoblin @ 181</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not a big fan of Hillary, but lately she’s been more like the old Hillary I remember from 1992.  </p>
<p>[Mod: <em>snip</em>]</p>
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<p>It’s a different world from the carefree 90’s and the issues are more stark. Hillary will be the now President, with the social issues in the forefront. And she’ll return to the diplomatic school of stopping and preventing preemptive war.<br />
 My other thought is serious. Many of you would vote for Hillary, but say “but she can’t win”. She WILL win if YOU vote for her. It’s the agregate of all votes….one vote at a time that a winner makes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo-Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771475&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Katie Jensen @ 55&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay, I have ambivalent feelings about some issues regarding Hillary but I have to say that I had misgivings about Bill. So, I am willing to give her a chance.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Mod: &lt;em&gt;snip&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Women, we may need to stand together on this one. And no, don’t look the other way, ask her for what you want.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771475"><em>Katie Jensen @ 55</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Okay, I have ambivalent feelings about some issues regarding Hillary but I have to say that I had misgivings about Bill. So, I am willing to give her a chance.  </p>
<p>[Mod: <em>snip</em>]</p>
<p>Women, we may need to stand together on this one. And no, don’t look the other way, ask her for what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Bogs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-772793</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Bogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771516&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mandrake @ 92&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771506&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pete Bogs @ 84&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;as a gyno-challenged American (aka, a man) I am deeply offended by the charade that Digby has perpetrated… men are not “things” to be secretly imitated… why did the Boston Tea Party participants pass themselves off as Indians? because if there were any witnesses Indians would take the blame… who does someone blame when they get mad at Digby? MEN!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LOL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think she ever intentionally presented herself as a man, did she?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some people might take me to be a man just because my handle is Mandrake (from Dr. Strangelove - Cptn Lionel Mandrake).  I just loved the name because I love the movie and I identified with the character (running around trying to prevent the destruction of the world).  But I’m not trying to fool anyone that I’m a man.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just because you’re an RAF exchange officer don’t give you no special pre-rogatives… anyway, I was certainly joking!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771516"><em>Mandrake @ 92</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-771506"><em>Pete Bogs @ 84</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>as a gyno-challenged American (aka, a man) I am deeply offended by the charade that Digby has perpetrated… men are not “things” to be secretly imitated… why did the Boston Tea Party participants pass themselves off as Indians? because if there were any witnesses Indians would take the blame… who does someone blame when they get mad at Digby? MEN!</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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<p>I don’t think she ever intentionally presented herself as a man, did she?</p>
<p>Some people might take me to be a man just because my handle is Mandrake (from Dr. Strangelove &#8211; Cptn Lionel Mandrake).  I just loved the name because I love the movie and I identified with the character (running around trying to prevent the destruction of the world).  But I’m not trying to fool anyone that I’m a man.</p>
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<p>just because you’re an RAF exchange officer don’t give you no special pre-rogatives… anyway, I was certainly joking!</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-772294</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Elizabeth Edwards, Jane Hamsher, Christy, Nancy Pelosi: these are beloved women, women that could be elected to anything. Hillary is not one of you.  She reminds too many workingclass people of their snobby boss.  Her husband reminds average Americans of his own likelihood of misbehavior.  They are just not sellable anymore.  They are selfish to want any more, Obama is selfish to want so much so soon. If only we can get Edwards the nomination, he’s the only one of them who will actually get enough votes to win.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Edwards, Jane Hamsher, Christy, Nancy Pelosi: these are beloved women, women that could be elected to anything. Hillary is not one of you.  She reminds too many workingclass people of their snobby boss.  Her husband reminds average Americans of his own likelihood of misbehavior.  They are just not sellable anymore.  They are selfish to want any more, Obama is selfish to want so much so soon. If only we can get Edwards the nomination, he’s the only one of them who will actually get enough votes to win.</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/the-ladies-of-tba/#comment-772270</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3129/why_women_hate_hillary/&quot;&gt;http://www.inthesetimes.com/ar.....e_hillary/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this article by susan douglas is being quoted by the left (The Nation) and the right (Bay Buchanan).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if you disagree, this argument is having an effect!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3129/why_women_hate_hillary/">http://www.inthesetimes.com/ar&#8230;..e_hillary/</a></p>
<p>this article by susan douglas is being quoted by the left (The Nation) and the right (Bay Buchanan).</p>
<p>Even if you disagree, this argument is having an effect!</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771520&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 96&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; . . . .I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamsher/Gore today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d need to see a platform of the issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a matter of fact, FDL has been quite cagey about what it is they DO want to see done to save our Republic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to see THAT, also . . . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Point by point, all the issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And How They View The Masses Needs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Especially.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Got Talking Points, FDL? Platforms?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d sure like to see them . . . on the front page. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that I think about it, I’d like to see that on ALL blogs, so we can skip to OUR issues and the blogs who support them, rather n have to run hither and such. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talk about shaping the dialogue . . . something the blogs claim they do. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lemme see some claim? *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771520"><em>punaise @ 96</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> . . . .I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamsher/Gore today.</p>
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<p>I’d need to see a platform of the issues.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, FDL has been quite cagey about what it is they DO want to see done to save our Republic.</p>
<p>I’d like to see THAT, also . . . </p>
<p>Point by point, all the issues.</p>
<p>And How They View The Masses Needs.</p>
<p>Especially.</p>
<p>Got Talking Points, FDL? Platforms?</p>
<p>I’d sure like to see them . . . on the front page. </p>
<p>Now that I think about it, I’d like to see that on ALL blogs, so we can skip to OUR issues and the blogs who support them, rather n have to run hither and such. </p>
<p>Talk about shaping the dialogue . . . something the blogs claim they do. </p>
<p>Lemme see some claim? *G*</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771500&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 78&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; . . . .&lt;br /&gt;
The Clintons have never struck me as money mongers.  They have worked their butts off 24/7/365 for years and years for the country without grandiose exhibitions of luxury. JMHO.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OMG, MICHELLE!! IS THAT EWE?!?!?!?&lt;br /&gt;
ANN?!?!?!?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OMG! OMG!!! I can’t believe it!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HERE ON FDL!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m gonna like, COME or something!!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sigh, that anyone COULD post that stuff is SO depressing . . . .  can I get a good stiff gintini here, with about a dozen olives and some cocktail weinies?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771500"><em>LS @ 78</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> . . . .<br />
The Clintons have never struck me as money mongers.  They have worked their butts off 24/7/365 for years and years for the country without grandiose exhibitions of luxury. JMHO.</p>
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<p>OMG, MICHELLE!! IS THAT EWE?!?!?!?<br />
ANN?!?!?!?</p>
<p>OMG! OMG!!! I can’t believe it!!</p>
<p>HERE ON FDL!! </p>
<p>I’m gonna like, COME or something!!! </p>
<p>Sigh, that anyone COULD post that stuff is SO depressing . . . .  can I get a good stiff gintini here, with about a dozen olives and some cocktail weinies?</p>
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