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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-772029</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 02:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dear ed 175.  oh my goodness.  where to start?!?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not really. good for u &amp; keep reading from WIDE variety of sources. respect is good. theories are -um- just that, no better than facts on which they are based. with advanced degrees &amp; lotsa miles behind me, i’m not suffering from lack-of-sufficient-wisdom-syndrome problems, nor their opposite, as far as i know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s about it.  bye.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear ed 175.  oh my goodness.  where to start?!?</p>
<p>not really. good for u &amp; keep reading from WIDE variety of sources. respect is good. theories are -um- just that, no better than facts on which they are based. with advanced degrees &amp; lotsa miles behind me, i’m not suffering from lack-of-sufficient-wisdom-syndrome problems, nor their opposite, as far as i know.</p>
<p>that’s about it.  bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771975</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Adie 167&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not sure what ticked you off other than I wasn’t especially taken with the Copland discussion. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about world conditions and have come up with a theory of group behavior which I immodestly believe explains hierarchical societies. It’s self advertising but you get to my home page by clicking on my name. You also attribute policy here to heads wiser than yours. I’m assuming you disagree with some aspects of that policy. I suggest you start seeing yourself as wise as any, which you are. All of us, even wingnuts, are entitled to that respect.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for what I want, I want people to be able to get the confidence to rise up in unison. I’m not talking revolution. I’m talking petitioning the government in large numbers. I’m not sure how or if that can be done. That’s what I’d like to talk about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob Schact 165&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Legislation like Dodd’s resembles the War Powers Act in which the Congress asks the President not to declare war without its consent. Congress has not protected its Constitutional powers. Dodd’s bill seeks the return of what never should have been ceded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What to do? How about something like grassroots.com with branches in the 50 states whose purpose is to have people write individual letters to senators and congressmen, enough to enundate them. I’m not sure how to begin or whether most Americans can be persuaded their letter means enough to sit themselves down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adie 167</p>
<p>I’m not sure what ticked you off other than I wasn’t especially taken with the Copland discussion. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about world conditions and have come up with a theory of group behavior which I immodestly believe explains hierarchical societies. It’s self advertising but you get to my home page by clicking on my name. You also attribute policy here to heads wiser than yours. I’m assuming you disagree with some aspects of that policy. I suggest you start seeing yourself as wise as any, which you are. All of us, even wingnuts, are entitled to that respect.  </p>
<p>As for what I want, I want people to be able to get the confidence to rise up in unison. I’m not talking revolution. I’m talking petitioning the government in large numbers. I’m not sure how or if that can be done. That’s what I’d like to talk about.</p>
<p>Bob Schact 165</p>
<p>Legislation like Dodd’s resembles the War Powers Act in which the Congress asks the President not to declare war without its consent. Congress has not protected its Constitutional powers. Dodd’s bill seeks the return of what never should have been ceded.</p>
<p>What to do? How about something like grassroots.com with branches in the 50 states whose purpose is to have people write individual letters to senators and congressmen, enough to enundate them. I’m not sure how to begin or whether most Americans can be persuaded their letter means enough to sit themselves down.</p>
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		<title>By: fleinn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771869</link>
		<dc:creator>fleinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;re. the speech on top: wanna know a secret? The reason why the rest of the world didn’t have much of a problem with Clinton - wasn’t actually because he resided over a beacon of liberty and a gloriously great democracy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was because he could charm the US into believing that relatively sane policies the rest of us could support - in reality consisted of saving the world, magically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, you know, not much have changed with the politics, see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re. the speech on top: wanna know a secret? The reason why the rest of the world didn’t have much of a problem with Clinton &#8211; wasn’t actually because he resided over a beacon of liberty and a gloriously great democracy. </p>
<p>It was because he could charm the US into believing that relatively sane policies the rest of us could support &#8211; in reality consisted of saving the world, magically.</p>
<p>And, you know, not much have changed with the politics, see.</p>
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		<title>By: marge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771636</link>
		<dc:creator>marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771428&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jonny Boy @ 169&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had lunch with my favorite history PhD recently and she academically briefed me on the fact that it has never been this bad, ever. The country is really in trouble. But I’m a true believer. I believe in all of you, I believe in everyone else fighting the good fight, and I believe that we will restore those greatest aspects of America. Struggle is never fun, but it is fulfilling when part of a fight for what we know is right. I believe we will pull through and we will look back upon the pain and suffering inflicted upon us, remembering the valor and courage we showed in the face of overwhelming power. We will do this standing on a new foundation for our way of life, a renewed republic, a foundation more sound in its structure than its predecessor. I believe this because I see it happening; I see it in the eyes of people all around. I see people thinking globally and acting locally. I see the restoration of community, of a sense of common struggle, of a need for shared sacrifice. I see the utter lack of fulfillment that a life given to the workings of the systems receives. I see a reevaluation of who we are, what the world is, and how we all fit in it together. It is the yearning in the voices of my friends and loved ones. It is the friction of progress.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY…FUNNY HOW I DID NOT EVEN READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS TO MY POST, BUT THEY REFLECT THE SAME FEELINGS, MOOD AND THOUGHTS…UNITED WE STAND&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771428"><em>Jonny Boy @ 169</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I had lunch with my favorite history PhD recently and she academically briefed me on the fact that it has never been this bad, ever. The country is really in trouble. But I’m a true believer. I believe in all of you, I believe in everyone else fighting the good fight, and I believe that we will restore those greatest aspects of America. Struggle is never fun, but it is fulfilling when part of a fight for what we know is right. I believe we will pull through and we will look back upon the pain and suffering inflicted upon us, remembering the valor and courage we showed in the face of overwhelming power. We will do this standing on a new foundation for our way of life, a renewed republic, a foundation more sound in its structure than its predecessor. I believe this because I see it happening; I see it in the eyes of people all around. I see people thinking globally and acting locally. I see the restoration of community, of a sense of common struggle, of a need for shared sacrifice. I see the utter lack of fulfillment that a life given to the workings of the systems receives. I see a reevaluation of who we are, what the world is, and how we all fit in it together. It is the yearning in the voices of my friends and loved ones. It is the friction of progress.</p>
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<p>I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY…FUNNY HOW I DID NOT EVEN READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS TO MY POST, BUT THEY REFLECT THE SAME FEELINGS, MOOD AND THOUGHTS…UNITED WE STAND</p>
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		<title>By: marge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771630</link>
		<dc:creator>marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-771603&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;todd @ 170&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nice post as far as rhetoric goes — but what can each of us actively DO to help restore our nation?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GET INVOLVED AND SPREAD THE TRUTH&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-771603"><em>todd @ 170</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Nice post as far as rhetoric goes — but what can each of us actively DO to help restore our nation?</p>
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<p>GET INVOLVED AND SPREAD THE TRUTH</p>
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		<title>By: marge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771628</link>
		<dc:creator>marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So long as there are passionate people about politics like DIGBY, ET AL., there just, just might be light at the end of this dark tunnel we are living in right now. So glad we now have a forum such as the www to finally start LIVING a TRUE DEMOCRACY!!!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;POWER TO PROGRESSIVES AND BLOGGERS AND F*** THE MSM–THE ARE ENABLERS OF THE CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTRY&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THANKS TO ALL THE TRUE BELIEVERS WHO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF THE BACKLASH…&lt;br /&gt;
UNITED WE STAND, I DO HAVE HOPE NOW THAT AMERICA CAN BE RESTORED.  THANK YOU JANE, MARCY, CHRISTY,…YOU ARE ALL GREAT&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as there are passionate people about politics like DIGBY, ET AL., there just, just might be light at the end of this dark tunnel we are living in right now. So glad we now have a forum such as the www to finally start LIVING a TRUE DEMOCRACY!!!  </p>
<p>POWER TO PROGRESSIVES AND BLOGGERS AND F*** THE MSM–THE ARE ENABLERS OF THE CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTRY</p>
<p>THANKS TO ALL THE TRUE BELIEVERS WHO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF THE BACKLASH…<br />
UNITED WE STAND, I DO HAVE HOPE NOW THAT AMERICA CAN BE RESTORED.  THANK YOU JANE, MARCY, CHRISTY,…YOU ARE ALL GREAT</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771603</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post as far as rhetoric goes — but what can each of us actively DO to help restore our nation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post as far as rhetoric goes — but what can each of us actively DO to help restore our nation?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Boy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had lunch with my favorite history PhD recently and she academically briefed me on the fact that it has never been this bad, ever. The country is really in trouble. But I’m a true believer. I believe in all of you, I believe in everyone else fighting the good fight, and I believe that we will restore those greatest aspects of America. Struggle is never fun, but it is fulfilling when part of a fight for what we know is right. I believe we will pull through and we will look back upon the pain and suffering inflicted upon us, remembering the valor and courage we showed in the face of overwhelming power. We will do this standing on a new foundation for our way of life, a renewed republic, a foundation more sound in its structure than its predecessor. I believe this because I see it happening; I see it in the eyes of people all around. I see people thinking globally and acting locally. I see the restoration of community, of a sense of common struggle, of a need for shared sacrifice. I see the utter lack of fulfillment that a life given to the workings of the systems receives. I see a reevaluation of who we are, what the world is, and how we all fit in it together. It is the yearning in the voices of my friends and loved ones. It is the friction of progress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had lunch with my favorite history PhD recently and she academically briefed me on the fact that it has never been this bad, ever. The country is really in trouble. But I’m a true believer. I believe in all of you, I believe in everyone else fighting the good fight, and I believe that we will restore those greatest aspects of America. Struggle is never fun, but it is fulfilling when part of a fight for what we know is right. I believe we will pull through and we will look back upon the pain and suffering inflicted upon us, remembering the valor and courage we showed in the face of overwhelming power. We will do this standing on a new foundation for our way of life, a renewed republic, a foundation more sound in its structure than its predecessor. I believe this because I see it happening; I see it in the eyes of people all around. I see people thinking globally and acting locally. I see the restoration of community, of a sense of common struggle, of a need for shared sacrifice. I see the utter lack of fulfillment that a life given to the workings of the systems receives. I see a reevaluation of who we are, what the world is, and how we all fit in it together. It is the yearning in the voices of my friends and loved ones. It is the friction of progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771423</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;perris at 158 - We need Samuel Adams &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Adams&quot;&gt;linky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perris at 158 &#8211; We need Samuel Adams <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Adams">linky</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/20/renewal-2/#comment-771395</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ed Kunin 164&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you have missed other recent columns, or you might try a search up under the archives  at the “Categories” heading (mid-upper right on each page) to find what you seek.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, FDL does pause periodically to let folks catch their breath and refresh the spirit.  This savvy policy is guided by wiser heads than my own, no doubt partly as a way to break tension and enable all to continue tackling the toughest and most complex problems the world can offer - hands on, no flinching, no turning away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consider this an open invitation to scroll around, read more posts, read the comment trails.  Think.  Act.  Become involved in trying to improve your world.  There must be &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt; you can find to do other than snip out one little moment in time to fuss about.  If not, I am truly sorry for you and yours, for you have missed the point of it all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Kunin 164</p>
<p>Perhaps you have missed other recent columns, or you might try a search up under the archives  at the “Categories” heading (mid-upper right on each page) to find what you seek.</p>
<p>Yes, FDL does pause periodically to let folks catch their breath and refresh the spirit.  This savvy policy is guided by wiser heads than my own, no doubt partly as a way to break tension and enable all to continue tackling the toughest and most complex problems the world can offer &#8211; hands on, no flinching, no turning away.</p>
<p>Consider this an open invitation to scroll around, read more posts, read the comment trails.  Think.  Act.  Become involved in trying to improve your world.  There must be <em>something</em> you can find to do other than snip out one little moment in time to fuss about.  If not, I am truly sorry for you and yours, for you have missed the point of it all.</p>
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