True to form, that lovable loon Anodyne Outhouse has fallen back on her usual, “It was a joke! Don’t you people know a joke when you see one?” defense in the face of the blogging world’s overwhelmingly negative response to her Freudian analysis of Hillary Clinton’s new campaign video. Just as she did with her “Boobgate” assault on Jessica Valenti, Miz Althouse has tried to put the whole mess to bed by posting about it repeatedly today, all day, spinning and spinning. For you see, the whole thing was a mind-control experiment, yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket:
See that phrase “I doubt if any blogger will disagree with my assertion”? That’s an awfully cheap trick, a way to prod bloggers to write about the post. But nobody with any decent readership is dumb enough to say Althouse is crazy to think everyone will agree with that. Right?
I’m saying outright: Come on, everybody, into the vortex. And in they hop. It’s an anti-Althousiana fest. I love it!
Yes, apparently the joke is on us for calling her stupidity stupid and her craziness crazy. Oh, curse you, you clever vixen! Fie! Fie upon me!
Of course, there’s a second post, and a third, because, you know, to the preening narcissist, any kind of attention, even blazingly negative attention, is like crack. She’s on a binge, god help us all. Hide the spoons.
Like last night, I’m afraid that the pithiest take on her lunacy is actually afforded to us by one of her commenters:
- Verso said…
- Ann,
- Sometime you should do a post talking about how you feel being a laughing stock and target of nearly universal mockery and derision.
- I’m impressed that you are willing to destroy your own reputation, and convince 95% of your readers beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are batshit insane and out of your freaking gourd. Simply for a one or two day bump in traffic!
- You know what people never do?
- They never link to your threads because they are insightful and interesting.
- You are a raving spectacle. A clown. And an enormous source of entertainment.
- Pleeeeease keep posting your lunatic rantings, Ann. I have become hooked on them.
It’s true. The only people who link to Outhouse because they think she’s clever are Perfesser and Mrs. Instapundit, and next to those two, bowls of day-old cole slaw are fairly brimming with cleverness and trenchant wit.
So sad.
And as for my own contribution, the Lesser Perfesser has this to say:
UPDATE: And the Instapundit link is overwhelmed by a Crooks and Liars link, by the darling John Amato, who also linked to his pal, the socially awkward TRex. Remember, I had my encounter with TRex and John Amato at the CNN party on election night, and John Amato was a sweet, warm guy. I enjoyed meeting him. I don’t begrudge him defending the Democrats’ last President. But he’s soooooo far above the grouchy little prick TRex. Thanks, John, for sending me all this traffic, and I still love you.
My god, I have already explained this repeatedly, but I will reiterate one more time for the cognitively impaired.
Ms. Althouse, I am perfectly capable of being delightfully charming to people who aren’t painfully superficial, GOP-talking-point-spewing pawns to the Right Wing Blogosphere. Ask (”SUPERSTAR!”) Mary Katherine Ham, who says I was perfectly friendly to her on the very night in question, right up until I found out who she was, at which point I politely excused myself and discreetly threw up into a wastebasket.
You carry water for the Right. You launch appallingly vicious attacks against other women writers. You seem to have an unhealthy fixation on what’s lurking in President Clinton’s boxer-briefs, but that may be the single interesting thing about you. (That and your usefulness to us on “The Angry Left” as an amusing case-study in Severe CDS.) Why on earth would I be interested in trying to make friends with you? Go find some Manorexic hairdresser to be your Happy Gay Elf.
And stay off my lawn!
Good night.
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TRex!
#2
yoohoo, LooHoo got the zed (waving to cassie – a good try)
She must have been really drunk. Therapods are NOT little, in any feature or dimension.
Ask any paleontologist.
Evenin’, TRex, Loo Hoo, I bow in your general direction.
How’s it going, Cassie? still rained out?
Ann Althouse is either an incredibly clever Stephan Colbert clone,
or the stupidest law professor this side of Regent.
Suzanne – have you already done your dive for the day?
TRex why do you care about these people? They are nasty! Just spend time with US instead. If somebody called me or my friends “the grouchy little prick ” I wouldn’t read their stuff any more.
Just a thought.
Fuckery! Fuckery! Fuckery!
Mutant Poodle @ 5
Storms are starting again. Whole new set.
i did do it already, MP, downstairs… twas a beauty if i do say so myself – no matter what that dang albanian judge thinks
allan_in_upstate @ 6
Place your bets here – odds are 8:3 in favor of a Regent reject.
Suzanne @ 11
Dang – have you pissed them off, too?
Trex, I normally read you in the early am and at that time you don’t seem like a grouchy little prick. Is grouchy little prick your alter ego and just another one of Althouse’s delusion?
Evenin’ TRex, evenin’ everyone. Might just be a drive-by here, my eyelids are starting to slam shut!
MP, was easy to piss them off – dood saw my impeach boosh bumpersticker when i drove up… remember how much they like little georgie…
BTW, didja all catch the minor kerfuffle (minor because no one seems to think it matters) that Rudy was basically fired (OK, he quit, but he was given an ultimatum) from the 9/11 commission?
Juicy details here.
SnarKassandra @ 10
Great. just great. (slops off to get bucket and mop. AGAIN.)
Mutant Poodle @ 12
8:3? It makes sense to be a little conservative with the odds you set, but come on, you can be a little more generous than that.
allan_in_upstate @ 6
Option #2
EvilDrPuma @ 19
The right bets early and often, and they’re not very bright.
Bubba. The Dude Abides. I want them back.
I believe AA wishes she taught at Regent. All the little monica clones would be hanging on her every word as if she was, in fact, in possession of an iq above 69.
SnarKassandra @ 8
Oh, but she’s so pathetically easy to rile up. And she always links to my posts, which is more than I can say for some of the folks on “Our Side”.
Poor old dear. You would think that modern psychiatric medicine would have penetrated to the wilds of middle Wisconsin by now.
That woman is two tacos short of a combination plate. I’m trying to imagine what it must be like to take a class from her. I think I’d rather be stripped naked, covered with honey, and staked out over a fire ant colony.
Mutant Poodle @ 17
Why should Rudy show up for meetings? 9/11 was the same gravy train for him no matter what the commission decided.
Oh, and speaking of the Clinton song, why, oh why is it Celine Dion?
I’d rather she recycled Fleetwood Mac.
Suzanne @ 23
Heh heh. She said “69.”
burnspbesq @ 24
And how often do you have this dream?
EvilDrPuma @ 28
And I know what that means!
EvilDrPuma @ 28
Quit it, Beavis…
Leave it to the evil doc to pick up on that (wink)
Mutant Poodle @ 27
Hardly matters. She wouldn’t be getting my vote in the primary even if Beethoven himself rose from the dead to bang out the “Ode to Joy” for her campaign stops.
Suzanne @ 32
The mutant caught it, too, but was letting it pass in deference to our youngers.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. There. I said it, Ann.
SnarKassandra @ 8
He fights them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.
Rudi’s own children fired him.
Suzanne @ 32
That’s why I get the big bucks.
EvilDrPuma @ 33
Well, I’m with you on that, but I might actually go to her rallies.
burnspbesq @ 36
But he is fighting them OVER HERE!
But if Dvorak rose from the dead for Hillary, I would have to seriously consider it.
Trex, do you think AA is, in a very strange and perverse way, flirting with you?
It’s so hard to be a Baby
Suzanne @ 42
Doesn’t she know he is gay.
TRex are you gay or bi?
Darling TRex, you have obviously got under someone’s skin (is it claustrophia-inducing in there?!)
Did you catch that one comment of Miz A’s, right there after the second post (I think it was the second–it’s getting hard to keep up with all of them):
She now owns onion rings. Oh dear.
I’m still shushing the children and reminding them not to point…
Mutant Poodle @ 29
707.
Actually, imagine you have a young adult (child) who anounces that Ann wacko is going to be their professor what does a parent do??
TRex @ 41
Nah. If Confucius personally made a stump appearance to proclaim Hillary Clinton the very personification of the Tao, I’d burn my copy of the Analects.
JPL @ 47
I’m going to hazard a guess that that’s a more than three martini lunch….
Mary McCurnin @ 37
Changed their names!
Suzanne @ 42
Yes.
*shudder*
JPL @ 47
You introduce your child to the spitball.
Mutant Poodle @ 29
Sometimes a fire ant colony is just a fire ant colony.
Good night all, too tired to hang out. Have fun!
LoudounLib @ 54
See ya. Just imagine what you’ll be missing!
Good night, LL!
g’nite LL
EvilDrPuma @ 55
bye!
Why does anyone give this woman (?) the Ann Coulter treatment? They are both so marginal it’s all reaction to nothingness. Go to sleep, guys. Ignore them.
EvilDrPuma @ 48
EDP, you need to stop holding back. As someone with a minor (very minor) in Chinese History, I can assure you that the August Emperor Of Jade thinks Hillary….should remain in the Senate, until the Emperor dissolves it. (diving gear breathing apparatus sounds…)
Gay, gay, gay. About the only woman I’d jump the fence for would be, well, probably Jane. But she’s a Living Embodiment of the Divine, so I kind of think we’d all jump our respective fences for Jane.
Get them to the car and tell them not to make eye-contact. Hurry!
I had onion rings for lunch today. I did not think of Ann Althouse for one moment, and I certainly didn’t think of female parts. I was thinking about my lunch.
If I owned something, I would want it to be more sexy…like mangos, or honey, strawberries, something really good.
Onion rings, like a Carl’s Jr. messy burger #2, just don’t seem that sexy to me.
She can own them, I already feel guilty eating the damn things.
‘Night, LL…
I think about Bill Clinton when I eat onion rings.
AnnieW @ 63
What, no chocolate?
TRex @ 41
How about Grieg? He wrote some serious rock’n’roll…
puppethead @ 62
Weirdo.
I personally own gardenias. Since I was 4. Have no idea why. That and walruses. For reasons FAR to personal to mention….
Mary McCurnin @ 65
707
It’s good to quote MoDo in the middle of the night.
Mary McCurnin @ 65
Professional Help Is Available.
OT once again, but…
I really wish they’d stop analyzing it, and just accept and get over it. I could care less about hair whorls.
I forgot onion rings even existed until yesterday.
Sometimes you just have to feel bad for former repubs like Baloon Juice (John Cole) “And there you have it. The Republican Party is now split between several warring factions- the bible thumping God squad whose chief issues are gay bashing, your sex life, and abortion; the monied Corporoate interests who care only about tax cuts and cheap labor; and the redneck wing whose only concerns are a bellicose foreign policy and keeping brown people out of the country. All the sane people have left or refuse to publicly acknowledge they are Republican.” It might take them a while but the slowly enter the light side.
I’m playing some Grieg in about ten minutes.
Take your non-Mozilla browser and go here:
http://www.wuga.org/listen_online.html
Sorry I messed up on the previous post…I wanted to channel MoDo.
Not hardly. If I thought about her while eating onion rings, my carrot would wilt and no ranch dressing would come out.
I think those who read AA are just doing so because they have money in the meltdown pool. I’m thinking Saturday night around 9pm (her time) when she realizes she is spending yet another night home with her electronic gadgets instead of have a life.
Besides, by then she will have at least a liter of wine in her assuming she doesn’t start drinking until sundown.
Loo Hoo. @ 73
I wish I could forget Henry Kissinger so easily.
SteveAudio @ 67
Copland,or Debussy. I know Copland was gay, but does anyone know about Debussy? Doesn’t matter in the slightest, the music is what counts.
BTW, FDL is eating my hard drive. Every time i check in on LLNite they’re doing music videos, reminding me of composers and artists’ I’d forgetten for some years. Since I’m on URGE, I promptly go download all the artists’ available albums. I’m at 500 MB and rising, all thanks to FDL. :>
I wrote a post this morning about Mayor Bloomberg and election reform. But I didn’t say anything nasty about TRex so he won’t quote me!
JPL @ 47
I’d stop payment on the tuition check. There are other law schools.
I think I’d rather own clunking great platinum-and-emerald rings, actually–a couple for each hand, no sexual innuendo whatsoever (and they’d double as brass knuckles in a pinch). Owning onion rings means one would be walking around in a cloud of one’s own, ah, onion-y funk all day.
Dvorak and Debussy… Fantastic!
TRex @ 75
That didn’t soound like you!
his radio voice, steveA?
Alfred Kelgarries @ 80
And don’t forget TubeSock, which lets you download any videos from YouTube and a few other sites using Flash Video.
We’ll talk about copyright issues some other time.
New question What if Ann and MoDO suddenly backed Hillary, would that make you more or less inclined to support Hillary?
SnarKassandra @ 81
Public financing of elections…can I get an AMEN?
Evening all. Looks quite lively in the Lake tonight. Then again we have such a suitable target and lovely post by the noble Theropod. Really, TRex, you are too gentle. As someone else observed today AA should have her teaching credentials revoked (I’ll leave the issue of disbarment to our resident lawyers). No one that mentally unstable should be allowed anywhere near a classroom.
JPL @ 88
Show me the face you had before you were born.
DrDick @ 90
I think there’s a place for Althouse in the classroom. Okay, the classroom is in the theater department, but still…
Amen, EDD. And paper ballots.
JPL @ 88
Another 707, though I’m not sure why.
I am not a huge Hillary fan, she ranks about 5th in my choice for the primaries…but if MoDo and AnnA started to sing her praises, she’d probably go down in my estimation.
I don’t want her to be praised, but to be attacked in such an underhanded way is disturbing to me.
I think a classroom in a teaching psychiatric hospital as the subject du jour would be an appropriate classroom setting for AA.
SteveAudio @ 87
RIAA not having a good day today!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 96
That is the ugliest webiste I have ever seen.
EvilDrPuma @ 89
Amen!
Suzanne @ 95
Here’s a new career for Annie: Nerf test dummy.
EvilDrPuma @ 89
um, how about a hallelujah?
Mutant Poodle @ 100
That’ll do, Poodle. That’ll do.
Cassie, that was a great post, I read it this morning..
When you first click on the WUGA stream, you hear the voice of Davin, our former director, “You’re listening to WUGA…” he says.
That may be why it didn’t sound like me at first. We’re in the gorgeous second movement of Grieg’s “Holberg Suite” right now.
Hey, Steve, did you get your Eli CD yet?
JPL @ 102
Thank you.
Suzanne @ 95
Nope, we’re throwing her back.
Damn You TRex, you befouled my computer! I now need to cleanse my harddrive of Outhouse’s toxic drivel!!! However, I forgive you, it was worth the pix of you! *g* Aloha, one and all!!!
In case it wasn’t clear enough that the people running this country are crazy children… ABC News: Did Bush’s Grandfather Steal Geronimo’s Skull?
kirk murphy @ 104
Too scary for beginning students?
kirk murphy @ 104
Just don’t throw her this way, Kirk. Is all I ask.
kirk murphy @ 104
You are a psychologist right? Could I ever ask you a question on email or IM or the phone? About a few different kinds of mental illness.
DrDick @ 108
Nope – too gross for the faculty.
As with Rush and Coulter using the “it was just a joke” excuse, the problem is that there has to be some way that a joke is supposed to be funny. If you can’t explain what the funny part was, then you’re just pretending that “since I looked like an idiot, I didn’t mean it” is the same thing as a joke.
SnarKassandra @ 97
speaking of browser security (oh, we weren’t talking about that? well, NOW we are…)…
There is a nasty infestation going around the net right now, and it attacks browsers which have not been fully patched. Everone who is using a browser right now should immediately go to firefox, microsoft, opera, etc. and GET ALL THE PATCHES. Right now. Or Unka Al will grump at you. all at once. seriously. And russian mobsters will steal your bank account and credit cards (I am not kidding, this is for realsie.)
SnarKassandra @ 105
Although no one can replace Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards or Molly Ivins you certainly have the skills to make their home state proud.. Keep it Up.
Suzanne @ 109
Raises an important point. How do we properly dispose of/recycle such highly toxic hazardous waste?
Alfred Kelgarries @ 113
Is a patch the same as an update?
DrDick @ 115
Mars is out; we haven’t yet absolutely confirmed that there is no life there.
Loo Hoo. @ 35
And sometimes an onion ring is just an onion ring.
TeddySanFran @ 118
And sometimes an alcoholic whack job is just an alcoholic whack job.
TeddySanFran @ 118
And karats are a girl’s best friend.
I am tired of continually “patching” Bill Gates defective operating systems. That is why I run LINUX mostly. Support Open Source.
DrDick @ 115
The Valley Of Gog’s Crowd. (Ezekiel Chapter 39 verses 11 through 16). Reads like a toxic waste cleanup every time a run across it. Weird.
TeddySanFran @ 118
Some people just have ruin everything with their analogies.
SnarKassandra @ 116
EvilDrPuma @ 117
How about deep within Yucca Mountain? Our taxpayers’ dollars wouldn’t be completely wasted then!!! ;-)
TeddySanFran @ 118
“…and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.”
–Douglas Adams, The Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Alfred Kelgarries @ 124
That is a hard question. We use both IE and firefox on the XP and both Safari & Firefox on the Mac. we do automatic updates.
dideau @ 59
If you haven’t noticed, ignoring Coulter didn’t make her go away.
Relentless mockery is the only answer. All bow before the master! *g*
Frank33 @ 121
OS whoring. And get a Mac!
CTuttle @ 125
Come to think of it, we could dump her in Dick Cheney’s “undisclosed location.” It is already irremediably polluted.
I was eating onion chips this evening (every now and then you gotta give in to White Castle) and I believe I was thinking about the North Shore of Lake Superior while eating them. There is definitely an element of lust in thinking about the North Shore. I could use a vacation…
In re patching browsers:
For Firefox:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/
For IE:
http://www.update.microsoft.com
Use google or the browser’s help menu for others.
SnarKassandra @ 127
Just to be on the safe side, go to the updates for your browsers (see earlier post) and do a custom update check just to make sure. automatic is good, but it can barf sometimes. I run a manual update check on my systems every morning.
CTuttle @ 125
No good – they only promise it’s leak-proof for 10,000 years.
I suppose the University of Wisconsin needed to have someone like Ann on the faculty, to be able to point to as an example of what happens when good lawyers go round the bend. Berkeley has John Yoo, after all, and Madison has to keep up.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 133
And for GHOD’s sake if you got the safari port to window, PATCH IT IMMEDIATELY! Hackers compromised it in less than an hour, six ways IIRC. (Steve needs to stop playing with his iPhone and get back to his iJob, Jobs!)
Cassie, I’d be happy to field questions (but the next ten days are quite busy – my answers may be delayed)
email is kmurphy riseup net
BTW – I’m a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. (psychiatry is a medical specialty; I’m a physician). Many fine, honorable, and decent folk are psychologists.
I’ve never before taken such pains to stress I’m not a psychologist.
Sadly, the American Psychological Association – and some psychologists – are complicit in the tortures at Gitmo and elswhere.
Psychiatrists have done a lot of bad things, but organized psychiatry does not condone complicity in torture and Gitmo.
The American Psychological Association’s big powers excuse and condone psychologists’ participation in torture.
I am a psychiatrist.
I am not a psychologist.
SnarKassandra @ 110
Kirk Murphy I didn’t mean to insult you. I didn’t know.
Dear Blogger:
While I respect your First Amendment right to feed trolls like Ann Althouse, please don’t.
Thanks,
The Internet
Heads up to those who hang out late at the Lake, the tech crew will be doing an upgrade (hopefully with fixes to some of the problems) around midnight PDT time – expected down time is about 10 minutes.
Redshift, I’m not sure what Coulter actually does but I doubt that she is teaching classes at a university. I certainly think that Wisconsin should know that Ann has problems with certain food groups and maybe they should rethink her classes. She might do better in Home Econ. or Sex Ed but not in Law.. Well maybe not Sex Ed cause onion rings can be greasy and smelly..
Suzanne @ 140
I’ll be in dreamland by then, mehopes.
?Anna Casavieja ees really la trollitra “Gordon the Gagnificent”?
Wonders unceasing.
Mutant Poodle @ 142
good night
kirk murphy @ 137
I didn’t know that the APA brass had sold out. How…despicable.
Suzanne @ 140
You might want to repeat this warning around 11:50 PT, and either add it as an update to this post or if there’s a Late-Late Night post make sure it gets mentioned there.
El Gato Negro!!
Carramba!!
Keep these wild lefties in line, will you, Senor Gato? I have to head home.
Redshift @ 112
Thank you for explaining this so succinctly.
CTuttle @ 125
Sounds like a winner to me.
I was attracted for a few minutes to the idea of shipping it to outer space, but then the vision of an exploding space shuttle spewing stuff all over the place wasn’t appealing.
Oh wait, are we talking about getting rid of radioactive waste or AA?
EvilDrPuma @ 145
Truly. AAA dealt with these kinds of issues in the late 60s and early 70s and came out strongly against all actions detrimental to research subjects.
Cassie, absolutely no insult perceived – I genuinely apologize for seeming so.
The psychologists’ torture insults me.
Your presence on the Lake enriches me.
And your blog rocks.
9/11 changed everything. How truly sad.
OMFGato, thees weel no be pretty for her.
?Maybe we should start calling her “Onion Ring”, joo know, the way O’Bierne ees called
“ol’ 60 grit”?
so.
Peterr, will be repeated regularly between now and then :) No one likes surprises
EvilDrPuma @ 145
One of the more despicable tricks the Sov’s used to pull on dissidents powerful enough to avoid being gulaged was to diagnose them with “sluggish schizophrenia”. Symptoms included irrational beliefs that the Sov Gov was tyrranical, “acting out” at rallies and by running underground newsletters (pre Toobz). IIRC the western psychiatric professionals never bought into it. I would think Chimpy would love it, tho…
AnnieW @ 152
Not on my planet, it didn’t. I have no idea what planet the dickweeds running the APA are living on.
We can hold down the fort, Sr Reyes.
so.
kitty !!
kirk murphy @ 151
Doesn’t it tho. Shocked me to learn the ages of the contributors. I may have to give up being a curmudgeon if cassie keeps this up…
Peterr @ 135
Umm, not exactly equivalent. Bizarre is not the same thing as evil.
Suzanne @ 154
I love surprises, Suz!
Some catnip, Senor Gato? I keep it chilled for your visits.
burnspbesq @ 160
True and an important distinction. It does remain a mystery, however, why anyone would retain either of them to teach.
kirk murphy @ 151
Thanks, I sent you email. :)
DrDick @ 163
Oh, I don’t know. I think the phrase “university bureaucrats” can explain quite a lot.
burnspbesq @ 160
Anyone can be evil; all it takes is a vulnerable other person and a momentary loss of control. (Which is why some question the deterrence of the death penalty because so many murders are done in one-time situations by people who never killed before and likely wouldn’t kill again. (Suzanne, feel free to correct me on this…)
Wickedness, OTOH, is evil done by a fully functional, effective, and competent state of mind. Said evil is often distilled, purified, and then coated with a thick layer of sophistry to make it go down easier. Side effects still include self-destruction, however.
MarkH @ 149
Aren’t they, one and the same, oops, my bad!!! ;-)
Althouse is shithouse.
Also, it looks like the goons must have visited the McNulty household late at night and threatened his family and pets.
It seems he’s back on board the Gonzo is Virtuous bandwagon.
-GSD
Gato-neep?
Well, eet ees a beet early, yet as they say, eet ees after midnight somewhere, eh?
Speaking of Proffessora Oldhouse, deed anyone see that theeng she posted last week where she took a photo of a dying chipmunk and posted eet on her OCD ridden blog?
At the time eet seemed as eef she took eet’s peecture because eet was the only theeng that could no run away.
I mean, what-the-chingaderromadre was that, eh?
so.
Evening, everybody!
kirk murphy @ 151
Ditto from central FL. Great post, Cassie. May you always be blessed with such clear vision.
I’m 57 and still naive, but it’s beyond me that a University would not try to curtail her or maybe they have. Scary huh
Hello, RonD. Be careful, there’s catnip about. And we’re discussing Ann Althouse. The combination is positively…unique.
DrDick @ 163
They aren’t exactly great arguments for tenure, are they?
So the Republicans were all riled-up about the manufactured “Air-Pelosi” hub-bub.
Are they going to be up in arms about Air-Bin Laden booking flights out of the US after 9/11?
Let’s wait for the right-wing outrage.
-GSD
Buenas noches Gato Negro. ¿Cómo está?
Hi, Al K.
Catnip and Althouse?…kinda like whiskey and foot powder.
Rice orders Iraq jobs filled before any others in the State Dept. Personally, I’m Missouri on this. She needs to SHOW US how it’s done.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews
Not to worry, AK – I keep the catnip under lock and key.
Está muy bueno, gracas.
GSD, that story needs to be spread around more, eh?
so.
GSD @ 174
I really hope you’re not holding your breath! I would really miss your comments!!! :-(
Loo Hoo. @ 177
Sounds to me like there are going to be a lot of resignations among career SD people.
hmmm, so & I acute ; works een preview, but does no translate to the screen.
Hmmmffff…
RonD @ 176
whiskey and horse poo, more likely. Adds flavor.
GSD @ 174
Excellent point.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 183
And texture.
OK, I’m out. Early morning tomorrow.
Play well with each other.
?So, what does everyone theenk of NPR (among others) saying that TBA ees the equivalent of CPAC?
?Was that a riot or what?
Wordpress shows it in preview, Senor Gato, but then the software strips it out.
Night MP. SLeep well.
g’nite MP.
Suzanne @ 178
Wise lady. BTW, based on your experience, is the death penalty an effective deterrent or not? I’ve never been able to get a handle on it. I don’t like the government killing people (given the many anomalies in our legal system, particularly at the public defender end), but I also don’t like cheapening human life to “6 months minimum security and two years probation.”
Ahh, gracias Suzanna.
Mutant Poodle @ 186
Enjoyed your new blog, MP.
DrDick @ 185
(barf)
Hey late-niters, OT and EPU’d from an earlier thread about the Cohen article. Here’s what I finally had a chance to Post to the Post:
Not having had a chance to read all the comments, I plead a bit of ignorance about whether my thought is original. With that proviso, let me say that this column by Cohen is absurd to the point of either idiocy or prostitution. Libby was a knowing part of a plot to make political hay. He and his co-conspirators were willing (or illegally insensitive) to trash a covert intelligence network whose mission was to help us understand the threat of WMD. This occurred in what the President described as a time of war. That’s treason; and whether or not it violated the IIPA, it may well have violated the Espionage Act. It certainly constituted an underlying crime. He lied to prosecutors and a grand jury to throw them off the scent. He was caught. His lies prevented other prosecutions (which was, after all, the intent of his lies.) Even if there had not been an underlying crime (which there certainly was) obstruction of justice can prevent the discovery of underlying crimes and is therefore itself a serious crime deserving of punishment for its own sake and as a deterrent. If GW Bush’s cronies who were indicted during Iran-Contra been incarcerated and disbarred as they deserved, we might have 3,500 live men and 3,500 whole families and tens of thousands of intact bodies and psyches hundreds of billions of dollars available for worthwhile causes. But apologists like Richard Cohen banded together and made it possible for the malefactors to get off scott free and gain entry to another administration to do their evil. Richard: I hope your blood money buys you some good stuff. (walks away spitting on the ground)
“6 months minimum security and two years probation.”
?are joo referring to a specific case, here?
Good night y’all. See ya tomorrow.
SnarKassandra @ 197
nite, cassie.
TRex @ 103
Not yet, soon, I’m sure
‘Night, SnK.
SnarKassandra @ 197
Night Cassie. Drive safely tomorrow.
Loo Hoo. @ 184
I don’t mean to make light of this story, but all I could think of is Bush asking if Saddam was behind it…
DrDick @ 181
Right behind the mass exodus at Justice!!! Are there any adults still around?
Well, this is just proof that trolls don’t simply lurk in comments threads: they can run blogs and get tenure.
She’s a troll. Since you can’t moderate her, moderate your interest in her.
AK, the argument can certainly be made that for that offender, the death penalty will prevent future violent acts.
On the other hand, there are just too many screwups lately – I just don’t feel comfortable about the death penalty unless it is absolutely, positively necessary.
I’ve never bought into the idea that an execution deters others from committing the crime. As you point out, many homicides are committed in the heat of the moment.
“Earth Mother is fighting back – not only from the four winds, but also from underneath,” he said. “Scientists call it global warming. We call it Earth Mother getting angry
Native Americans notice that the earth aint doing so well.
-GSD
!El Gato Negro! @ 196
not particularly. My problem is, i spent my working life doing simulations of killing anywhere from half to all our planet’s population, wholesale and retail. Yet I and my family have never been touched by violent crime nor have we committed any. So I have a disconnect, having worked to preserve all lives by studying how they might all be snuffed out. None of that translates to the retail killing fields of modern underclass america. Is that even slightly clearer?
CTuttle @ 203
Not in the Bush administration.
(waving g’nite to cassie)
Night Cassie.
AnnieW @ 152
Physicans’ oaths and sacred obligations endured the Nazi doctors and shall endure the Gitmo Ph.D’s.
Sacred oaths and international law are far too precious to squander on a few bigots in caves – much less sacrifice on the altars of their victims.
And destruction of our Republic defiles the memories ot hose slain on 9/11.
Caligula’s palace and Bush’ White House spawn monsters devouring hope and freedom.
9/11 only changed the tyrants’ excuses.
pseudonymous in nc @ 204
!Punto!
While we’re on the subject of law professors, I just had a really horrifying thought.
Beginning in the 2009-10 academic year, David Addington is likely to be teaching constitutional law somewhere.
Good for you, Alexandria!
Suzanne @ 205
Good. I was hoping it wasn’t just me being soft-headed. And there ARE too many screwups. When we get a more progressive supreme court again, I expect some major changes, and also a wave of wrongful death lawsuits based on DNA exoneration.
AK:
?Joo were een re-insurance?
?eh? (j/k)
!El Gato Negro! @ 216
I was in the agency that doesn’t exist. and that’s all that can be said about that.
burnspbesq @ 213
Yeah, How to trash it! Hopefully, it would be that viper’s nest of Neocons at Pepperdine!!!
Suzanne @ 205
The available studies (on murder rates with and without the death penalty among others) indicate that it is not a significant deterrent. The overwhelming number of cases where people sentenced to death and later proven innocent clearly makes this an unacceptable trade off.
burnspbesq @ 213
Would conspiracy to commit torture and/or conspiracy to evade the constitution and/or conspiracy to do away with habeas corpus be sufficient to having his law license revoked?
Suzanne @ 205
Plus it just costs too damn much money, at least in California. What is Scott Peterson going to cost us before all is said and done? He’s better off right where he is, in San Quentin. That way, too, on the off chance that there is proof of his innocence at some point, he can walk.
(The fact that San Quentin remains on prime California real estate is another issue for another day…)
pseudonymous in nc @ 204
Which makes me wonder: why doesn’t she act on her TRex-attraction and post hereabouts?
I don’t think the people who keep urging me to ignore Althouse understand quite how much fun it is to send her up. Since I don’t do drugs anymore and all, you know, a Theropod’s got to get his kicks somewhere.
Ahhhhhhh. The Cleaning Lady came today. My house is soooooooo clean. Ahhhhhhh.
CTuttle @ 218
I’d like to think that the Coastal Commission wouldn’t approve a toxic waste dump in the middle of Malibu.
George Mason seems more likely. Or maybe Chapman; he could team-teach with Hugh Hewitt.
100% agree…though David Addington as a constitutional law professor will certainly add some more creative ones down line.
Peterr @ 220
For that matter, why does Yoo still have his license?
Peterr @ 220
I smell the Hague!!!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 217
No wonder you go for Ghost in the Shell. *grins*
Peterr @ 220
One can have hope but then again, this is the booosh administration, where reality ends and nightmares begin.
Good evening dear friends. So glad to settle in to the lake.
g’nite cassie – sleep weel! (and well :)
Evening Betsy! How’s life in Texas these days?
Evenin’, Aunt B!
We were just having some iced catnip tea with Senor Gato. Care for a glass?
Sure is hot tonight…
hey tex… i offered senor gato catnip. what do you have for us for dessert tonight?
aliasofwestgate @ 228
Sent you your package today. With two friend dvd’s that happened to want to come along. It’s media mail, so you’ll get it just as global warming kills us all…
And you know it on Public Security Section 9. Been there. Done that. Married Motoko and settled down very happily in denver. I guess I sorta even *look* like Bateau, if you squint….
Suzanne @ 78
Ma’am, I assure you and others, a liter of wine in one is NOT a bad thing, depending on the circumstances (dolmas, fig leaves, figs, strawberry’s n cream, finger foods abounding, flowing robes, rose petals in the tub, New Year’s Eve, scented candles, a loving honey). Ok, let’s not talk about the flowing robes thing . . .
But yes, I could NOT spend such a night with the AA . . . . lonely goes both ways.
;-) I ain’t that lonely.
!Oops!
!Eet ees almost last call for Sangria!
!The time, she ees running away weeth me!
I weel try to stop by later, perros del fuego.
Someone say buenas noches to Sr. Reyes eef I do no see heem. (Except, there he ees, now)
Hasta luego, perros del fuego.
Hasta, Sr. Reyes.
TexB @ 230
Howdy, Ma’am! How’s the weather today?
Buenos noches, Sr. Gato.
Somehow I doubt that either Addington or Yoo would lower themselves to teaching again. Perhaps a more lucrative academic endeavor, like some whack job of a “think” tank.
Y ‘dios, Suzanne.
(so)
CTuttle @ 237
yeah, notice the inland hurricane we had today? woo.
Hi, TexB!
Adios, El Gato. (putting catnip back under lock and key)
Evening, y’all!
Peterr @ 220
Unfortunately, it usually takes a felony conviction or really egregious prosecutorial misconduct (Mike Nifong) to get somebody disbarred. And except for really exceptional cases, a disbarred lawyer can petition to get reinstated. Donald Segretti has been quietly practicing law in Newport Beach for over 20 years.
So, I don’t know if you guys have seen his facebook profile, but Kirk Murphy is, like, a major babe.
Night Cassie and hello TexB!
Bye for now Gato!
Torte Milano with strawberries. No catnip.
DrDick @ 181
I immediately thought the same thing when I heard this story. Even worse, the report on the BBC mentioned that “some” were blaming the shortage of foreign service personnel on “people with antiwar views” within the State Department. I wonder which wingnut is feeding them that bit of stab-in-the-back rhetoric.
‘Cause gosh, it couldn’t be career foreign service members aren’t keen to go to the most dangerous posting in the world and work in a hopeless diplomatic environment while being continually undermined by the Cheney faction, which will nonetheless try to pin the blame on the State Department when their insane plans fail. I can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to sign up for that!
DrDick @ 226
Just guessing, but perhaps the presence of Pepperdine within the state of CA may influence the CA bar.
Then again, there’s always the “I was just looking out for my client” line. Of course, if Addington and Yoo looked at things properly, they would recognize that their client is not Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld, but the People of the United States of America.
And We are not amused.
Loo Hoo. @ 239
I could have sworn Yoo is teaching at Boldt, UC-B!
nah..Batou is an enternal bachelor. But you bet he wanders over and bugs the crap out of Togusa and his family now and then like a crazy uncle. *grins* But i can see the appeal.
TRex @ 246
I saw that, Tex. The doc is eye candy.
Hey Alicia. Nice to see you.
Hasta manana, Senor Gato!
Loo Hoo. @ 239
I was kind of hoping Addington at least might be doing time by then.
TexB @ 248
TexB, you will give me diabetes yet!
(Dives into picture, sounds of snarfling fill the air…)
uhhh…can blushes show through fog?
“snarfling….”
LOL
Same to you, TexB! Staying cool?
CTuttle @ 251
Yep. Here’s his faculty bio. Disgusting.
CTuttle @ 251
He is, much to the chagrin of the rest of the Berkeley faculty (and it’s Boalt Hall at UCB).
OT, but Al K, are you familiar with a retired Marine General named Paul Van Riper?
Suzanne @ 254
Wrong gender for some of us, I am afraid.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 217
Which agent of Control were you?
Evenin’ all !!!
Dr. Murphy, you are lit up like a lighthouse tonight. Bright red showing through the fog
Petrocelli!
I want some real Torte Milano. Is that coffee flavored?
RonD @ 256
For guys like Yoo and Addington, the lure of teaching is strong. They get to plant ideas in the heads of little Federalist Society pod-people when they are at their most malleable. Their putrid ideas then live on in succeeding generations of Republican Hill staffers.
Next best thing to immortality. And I can tell you from first-hand experience that that kind of immortality is seductive; I think it’s cool as hell that a case I litigated when I worked for the IRS ended up in the casebook on ethical problems in tax practice.
Texas weather is still rocky. We have flash flood warnings until tomorrow, and a lovely satellite image. Ugh!
Some deans are quite competent with computers and the internet, while others are blissfully ignorant of such things.
I wonder if the dean at UW-Madison’s School of Law is familiar with the Lesser Perfesser’s . . . less-than-stellar writings. Perhaps someone might want to send the Dean a few choice links, asking if this is representative of the kind of legal minds at UW.
Any Madison alums around?
RonD @ 263
I had the privilege of losing to him once or twice IIRC. He’s the one that kicked the Blue Team’s butt as OPFOR leader in that idiotic simulation they ran which showed we could conquer the ME with two platoons and a spare HumVee, right?
Hey Petro. Dessert above.
DrDick @ 262
EWWWW. I thought he just bookmarked a spot for when he was less “important” and that he would give it up for greener pastures.
TexB @ 270
Lovely. Looks like y’all are sending it on up to my son as well.
Petrocelli @ 265
Nope, Control was fictional. I was with Public Security Section 9, working through a detail to Omega Sector, with cooperation from the United Nations Centralized Law Enforcement guys. So there. :>
EvilDrPuma @ 89
AMEN! (Sorry, I’m late)
Bob in HI
Peterr @ 262
My Bad, Father! :-)
burnspbesq @ 269
I think you are absolutely right. Indeed, I think Yoo and some others are almost missionary in their zeal to spread the poison. By the way, I know the feeling about legal immortality. I was an expert witness in a case that wound up setting a precedent in Indian law and my testimony was the compelling evidence.
Al K, #272,
yep, he’s the one-I’m researchi8ng a piece about his experiences during MC02-Wlth little or no inconvenience to yourself, can you direct me to any particularly factual resources? Other than the obvious ones?
That is one nasty sat picture, Tex. Hope ya got your hatches buttoned down.
poor kirk :)
speaking of pictures, did monk ever make that collage of FDLers who emailed their pics? I sent one. just wondering if I missed it or if the project kind of died.
Petrocelli @ 265
Uhoh, look what the cat drug in!!! *g*
Alfred Kelgarries @ 96
Thanks hoss, RAIN, and the RIAA are great issues to me and my internet listening interests . . . I hadn’t seen that which you posted above . . .
*uck RIAA . . . the internet is free, and unregulated . . . and indie artists (MY main interest) and forms of music not heard on FCC Raydeo are dear to my heart . . .
May it always be this way . . . *uck RIAA and the FCC . . . internet = last bastion and FIRST defense against loss of freeedom of speech.
Harumph.
Petrocelli – I missed you last time I was here!
good question, muzzy… let me ask around backstage.
RonD @ 280
I’ll try. A lot of my stories have to stay behind my teeth, unfortunately, because they are still WAY classified (scooter libby I ain’t). But i have some stuff that might be helpful. I’m going over to our storage tomorrow or next day to get a book for lew koch; i’ll check then. can you send my an email so I can mail you back? mine is mynameruntogether@goooooooooooooglemail.com. (to defeat the spambots.)
AK — how do I update Safari?
Whaazzzup, everybody?
Reminder to folks on the Left Coast: “Lil Bush” is on in a half hour.
TexB @ 287
TexB, I am shamed to admit I’m mac-blind. if it is on Windows, Ghod help you. My advice is to dump it RIGHT NOW. But from cassie’s comments i’m assuming you’re on a mac and I’m not useful. (hangs head in shame, slinks off to refrigerator for comfort snack.)
Dover Bitch @ 288
Hey DB. How you doin’? Been enjoying your posts over at Digby’s digs.
EvilDrPuma @ 92
DrDick @ 291
I’ll second that notion!!!
(waving to DB)
Thanks DrDick. Tough gig at Digby’s dig.
TRex @ 223
Hear, hear! I’ll never go and read Ol’ Freudian Onion Rings or any of the other denizens of the wingnut brigade, but I love reading nuggets of insanity in a fine snark sauce.
The difference between her and a troll is that a troll is here trying to stir up trouble and poison the well, and she’s over there gibbering in her private room where you don’t have to look if you don’t want to. The reason we don’t feed trolls here is because of their nasty behavior, not their insane beliefs. For someone who’s not here, there’s no such problem. In the unlikely event that the only thing keeping a wingnut writer going is the thin attention they get from the mockery of their opponents, then why not pull the strings and continue to make them a laughingstock?
TexB @ 287
Click on System Preferences in the Dock and when it opens, click on Software Update. See what you get. There have been a couple of security updates recently.
TRex-
Do you rock the UGA radio station often? Or was it a one time thing? I haven’t had my classical music fix for a while…
Dover Bitch @ 294
Mighty big shoes to fill! You did an outstanding job, Ma’am!!!
CTuttle @ 298
Indeed.
burnspbesq @ 296
Cool. Did that this morning. Didn’t know if Safari was included. Thanks.
RonD @ 268
Bon Soir Mes ami !!!
Yeah Redshift, TRex can go after Althouse’s lunacy as much as he wants, as far as I’m concerned.
Dover Bitch @ 295
Tough act to follow, that’s for sure.
Muzzy, checking with backstage, there is thought that it was a one of a kind and that Jane has it. That is not confirmed with Jane tho.
TexB @ 274
Thanks Aunt B, it’s been ages since I’ve had this … I usually indulge in Tiramisu … *g*
Re:Althouse on TRex/Amato…
I really like the tactic of “I like you… but I don’t like you.” That’s always fun to watch.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 277
Sure you did … wink wink … *g*
TexB @ 289
Got you covered!
Apple Menu–>About This Mac – What operating system?
Apple Menu–> Software update…
Let it run and tell me what’s in the list.
Just backing up a few threads – I was interested to read Jane’s comment about HRC’s impression at her speech: “Those who want to maintain that Hillary is cold and doesn’t connect with an audience clearly haven’t heard her speak recently because she was anything but. She was actually very winning and warm and people really liked her.”
When looking at what factors influence voters in general, ‘likeability’ seems to carry more weight than a candidate’s policies or awareness of political their liaisons. Considering that HRC’s negative likeability index couldn’t be lower relative to other candidates going into ‘08, I get the feeling hers can only go up. Given her lead in polling as it stands today, she could really pick up steam if more people realize she’s basically ‘alright’. While personally I haven’t yet had that warm and fuzzy moment for her, it was eye opening to hear Jane’s reaction.
Dover Bitch @ 306
Hmmm. Yeah has that kind of scary Play Misty for Me/Fatal Attraction feel to it.
CTuttle @ 284
Harumph … I thought newfies were friendly … *g*
Trex is upstairs again, guys!
Dover Bitch @ 309
Hey, DB.
BTW, Safari in OS 10.4.9 is invulnerable to this.
Alicia @ 286
Hi Alicia, I had some trouble with my connection to FDL that night … I just assumed you did too … how’s things?
Hey Steve
Late, late show.
thanks Suzanne ! I hope she’s got it.
Dover Bitch @ 290
Hey DB … any comment(s) you’d care to add about Outhouse?
Late Late Nite is served upstairs
Ugh. More on Schlozman’s antics at the Civil Rights Division.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..amp;sub=AR
I’m fresh out of adjectives that can adequately express my disgust.
Mutant Poodle @ 7
Suzanne brings a new pronunciation to the word “diva” :~)
newtonusr @ 317
I am 10.4.10 . Assume that’s good.
TexB @ 326
Golden. Worry not!
Dover Bitch @ 297
You’ve done swell.
AnnieW @ 152
No it didn’t . . . evil people took advantage of 911, and THAT changed a lot.
‘Everything’ has been coming for a LONG time, and we slept thru it . . .
And we are to blame.
The question is . . . will we fight back to reclaim a Republic that was ONCE ours?
My jury is out on this, but, I gotta say, it’s a limp assed and sorry minded public that I see . . . even in the blogs.
The reclamation of our Republic will take street protests . . . and now that the EVIL is ready for that, it WILL result in blood, sweat and tears . . .
So, I don’t think the people of this country have what it takes anymore, to reclaim the Republic this once was.
Adapt, to that, or die.
We might be the meteor, n they might be the dinosaurs, but, if things don’t go well, we all die . . . what a waste that would be, too . . . humans have SO much potential . . . or I’d already curl up and give it up . . .
Here’s to hope?
Or, maybe the pendulum is greater than the masses and will swing without regard for one side or the other . . it just swings . . .
I dunno . . . you?
It may have already been mentioned, but this exchange between Ann and commenter Mindsteps seems further proof of her getting a big laugh about how stupid we all are.
Mindsteps said…
“What I find most salient about the series of pictures is that you never let go of your wine glass.”
Ann Althouse said…
“Yeah, I’m gripping that wine glass in a strange way. Maybe I never drink wine, but I just pose for pictures holding glasses of the stuff.”
Maybe. Then again, maybe not.
This gets a little better. Again, I apologize if I’m redundant.
Seven Machos said…
“I have concluded after today that there is a large contingent of people in the world who go to websites exactly in order to get themselves all hissy and pissed off. Weird. I have also determined that Ann Althouse likes to fuck with these people’s minds.”
Ann Althouse said…
“Seven: That’s sort of true, but this time it was just so incredibly easy. I knew it was going to be too easy, yet it turned out to be even easier. What fun is that? I want to find more exquisitely devious ways to get to people. Where was the foreplay… where was the cuddling…”
God help us all for being such lemmings.
“…I was perfectly friendly to her on the very night in question, right up until I found out who she was, at which point I politely excused myself and discreetly threw up into a wastebasket.”
ROFL (with tears)
Interesting she is doing the it was a joke defense, but what was the punchline? Was she the punchline? If so that was mighty brave of her. The trap question though “But nobody with any decent readership is dumb enough to say Althouse is crazy to think everyone will agree with that right?” So we are dumb and the blogs we read are full of dumb people if we admitt we “fell ” for your performance? Try explaining the hummor of your joke who or what besides yourself are you mocking? I don’t think you were even aware that the only hummor in your post, the only joke was You! The trap question used as an attempt to steer people to the conclusion that you wanted was nice it had appeals to authority in the you don’t want people to think your stupid so agree with me. First even with Authoritaian types you need a group THAT PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN for that to work. Secound you assume that some people out there must be so unsure of themselves that when confronted forceably with a resonable alternative scenerio that they will change their minds. Satisticaly that maybe so but regular readers of the blogs see that trick all the time Ann you are not doing your audience research! Third your reasonable alternative scenerio is that it was a joke. I understand that many Republicans don’t get hummor but here is a test TRY finding an audience that has never heard of you, and then TRY making them laugh. Liberal, Conservative, even your own people the Insane I bet only will upon being asked was she funny will assume that you were the joke although not a very good one? But when informed of you past Clinton ravings the joke such as it is idea falls apart truth is we know you, you were not joking. I see this as a desperate cry for help.
TRex, I’d mutter a protection spell if she came around you again. Ann Althouses vibes are spewing daggers everywhere.
A. Althouse reminds me of a close relative who, for a long time, was a shameless self-pitying pathetic attention-seeker. She also happened to be an alcoholic. The world revolved around her and only her. However, even she had more going on than this nitwit. She never became a fucking Republican.
I would like to attest to all that there are very very good onions rings available in and near Madison, WI. I would tell you where — indeed, I started to do so — but think it better to be discreet with such precious information. Who knows what might happen to my digestion and enjoyment if it should fall into — you know — the wrong hands.
On second thought, I can divulge one vendor to you: Micheal’s Frozen Custard. They don’t serve alcohol, so we should be okay.
RonD @ 264
Van Riper is an awesome soldier!
Um, so, basically, AA threw a fit because TRex didn’t jump up and fawn over her while at a bloggers meeting on election night?
And so she engages in some online antagonism directed at him, in response. And she accuses him of being socially awkward?
[shakes head]
I say the same thing all the time. Whenever you call these stupid people stupid, people always come back with, “Stop being so uncivil! You are never going to win these people over to your side if you are calling them names!” To which I reply: “I don’t WANT these people on my side. I want people who are rational and thoughtful on my side. Not these idiots!”
It seems she has learned from the Ann Coulter school of journalism that saying the most outrageous thing, not the most truthful or sensible thing, gets rewarded with the most attention. I have no plans to read her blog. Why don’t others similarly just tune her out?