Once again it’s time for our Weekly Reader quiz to make sure you’re keeping up. How many of these statements can you identify? And don’t miss the bonus video at the end, but first, who said the following:
1. Are you going to convict Jack Bauer? Say that criminal law is against him? ‘You have the right to a jury trial?’ Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don’t think so.
2. Through its actions, Hamas sought to divide the Palestinian nation. We reject that. It is the position of the United States that there is one Palestinian people and there should be one Palestinian state.
3. Whether the President was told about Abu Ghraib in January (when e-mails informed the Pentagon of the seriousness of the abuses and of the existence of photographs) or in March (when Taguba filed his report), Bush made no known effort to forcefully address the treatment of prisoners before the scandal became public, or to reevaluate the training of military police and interrogators, or the practices of the task forces that he had authorized. Instead, Bush acquiesced in the prosecution of a few lower-level soldiers. The President’s failure to act decisively resonated through the military chain of command: aggressive prosecution of crimes against detainees was not conducive to a successful career.
4. I have filed papers with the New York City Board of Elections to change my status as a voter and register as unaffiliated with any political party. Although my plans for the future haven’t changed, I believe this brings my affiliation into alignment with how I have led and will continue to lead our City.
5. And this is it: No more pontificating, no more vacillating, no more triangulating, no more broken promises, no more pats on the head, no more ‘we’ll get around to it next time,’ no more taking half a loaf, no more tomorrow.
For the men and women who are leaving this country to go serve in Iraq, there is no tomorrow. For women around this country who have . . . been diagnosed with cancer or breast cancer, you can’t talk about putting universal health care in tomorrow.
We need to do these things now. We — our party — we need to be bold, we need to have backbone, we need to have courage. It is time for us to lead again. It is time for us to show the leadership that America and the world needs from us.
6. Where I differentiate with the other candidates is I leave no residual forces. And my view is this: We cannot do the hard diplomatic work in Iraq until our forces are withdrawn.
7. So many of us knew this back then, even when it wasn’t popular to say so. . . . We knew back then this war was a mistake. We knew back then that it was a dangerous diversion from the struggle against the terrorists who attacked us on September 11th. We knew back then that we could find ourselves in an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.
We are sixteen votes away in the Senate from ending this war. And so we need to keep turning up the pressure on all those Republican Congressmen and Senators who refuse to acknowledge the reality that the American people know so well. We will call them, and knock on their doors, and we will bring our troops home.
8. . . . what you’re seeing now in this part of the 21st century is going to be played out over time. This is an ideological struggle. We’re looking at the difference between a group of people that want to represent the Palestinians who believe in peace, that want a better way for their people, that believe in democracy — they need help to build the institutions necessary for democracy to flourish, and they need help to build security forces so that they can end up enforcing what most of the people want, which is to live in peace — and that’s versus a group of radicals and extremists who are willing to use violence, unspeakable violence sometimes, to achieve a political objective.
9. What we can say is that if torture today remains a “scandal,” a “crisis,” it is a crisis in that same peculiar way that crime or AIDS or global warming are crises: that is, they are all things we have learned to live with.
10. Vincero! Vinceroooooooo….oooooo!
Bonus 11. We are passionate about politics, and in this era of Republican corruption, excess and failure, that passion sometimes manifests itself as anger. But how can you not be angry? So many institutions have failed us in the last decade, that being vitriolic seems the only sane response. . . . I’m a blogger-pundit, a role for which I am abundantly qualified. . . . I have opinions, I write them down, and a lot of people read them. Yes, that’s all there is to it. Sorry, David Broder.
Answers:
1. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, lecturing other judges on constitutional law in the age of Bush. Compare Scalia’s remarks to those of a US prosecutor from the Nuremberg War Crimes trials.
2. Secretary Rice, blaming Hamas instead of US policies that she promoted for dividing Palestinians, reported in Washington Post, after she and President Bush did everything they could to divide Palestenians into “good” and “evil” forces. Jeremiah 12:13.
3. Sy Hersh, explaining to Wolf Blitzer that the President knew early on about General Taguba’s findings, but did nothing to discourage the use of of torture and demeaning treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
4. New York Mayor Bloomberg, explaining his change from Republican to not affiliated.
5. Senator Edwards, speaking at Take Back America. Reported by Bob Geiger.
6. Governor Richardson, speaking at a forum sponsored by the AFSCME labor union, reported by Reuters.
7. Barack Obama, at Take Back America, anticipating Hillary Clinton’s speech today. Reported by Bob Geiger.
8. President Bush, in a press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Olmert, proving that Glenn Greenwald is right . Bush was insisting that he believes in democracy while explaining his support for Fatah, who just lost control of Gaza after losing elections in January 2006, and his opposition to Hamas, who now control Gaza and won those elections. The two men undoubtedly discussed Olmert’s plans for airstrikes on Gaza, again, this morning.
9. Mark Danner, noted scholar delivering a commencement address at Berkeley, expressing dismay at how the rhetoric of this era has numbed us to the fact that torture is the adopted policy of the United States. This was in digby’s homework assignment. You did do your homework, didn’t you?
10. Paul Potts, winner of a British talent show, proving why opera lovers are everywhere.
11. The incomparable Digby, the reason we have the phrase “what Digby said,” accepting an award on behalf of the progressive blogoshere, at TBA. And check out the people on the stage: America’s finest media critics; an emerging new media.



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A nice early post by Scarecrow.
Anyone catch Frontline last night?
Can someone remind me why Scalia hasn’t been impeached?
I mean, besides the Republicans and DINOs in Congress.
Umm, isn’t the president a little, well, incoherent?
GeorgeSimian @ 4
Fred Kagan was especially creepy.
He seemed to get positively aroused when describing his
trip to Camp David on a military helicopter.
allan_in_upstate @ 7
I agree. Really creepy. And who is this guy? How did he get to dictate this policy? Cause he wrote an article?
Good morning Scarecrow!
I have to say that the Frontline reversed some of what I thought to be true, so much so, that I’m not sure I believe it all. I mean, Rummy only wanted to get out? Bush is sincere about this surge? I’m not so sure I can swallow it. I’m kind of sick of this weak message that seeping out in the media, that maybe, just maybe, this surge might work.
But Bush and Cheney’s disconnect between what they were saying and the actual policy in Iraq was astounding.
In regards to number 8 on your list, why isn’t there more speculation that the US had a hand in this Fatah military coup? It looks pretty suspicious to me. And they sweep in after with the witheld tax money. It all just looks bad. I can’t imagine that it helps our image in the ME.
good morning… looks like the vote on HR 1707 to close the (SOA/ WHINSEC) school of the assasins is coming up today.
may i suggest – call your reps today.
from SOA watch – here’s the action info and here’s some background.
Come on. Wake up. I can’t firedog all day.
masaccio @ 6
How can you tell? He seems to have ALWAYS been a little incoherent. Otherwise the fellow at slate wouldn’t have been able to build a small career and following by publishing “Bushism’s: The accidental wit and wisdom of the preznit.”
I just don’t understand how he did that as I find nothing said by this preznit to have wit or wisdom, accidental or otherwise…
Totally OT and brief. Just watched Jane’s video of Digby’s speech. What a great thing it is. Predictably, Digby gets to the core of this nation’s heart disease and in the process, reminds us why we frequent FDL, Hullabaloo, C&L, Chimp, Kos, etc. Among other things, blogs fill the vacuum left when the MSM went AWOL. News. Information. Ideas. Agreements and disagreements. Community. I blog, but I’m a rank rookie compared to the aforementioned folks, and I just want to go on record with Huge Thanks to these prescient (Republicans: that means thinking ahead) people for the incredible venue they’ve created and perpetuated. Woo hoo!!
Oh and at quick glance, I got 9 out of eleven correct.
Yes, I did my homework. Can I go out and play now?
GeorgeSimian @ 11
palestinians are not dumb. bush’s propaganda is aimed at us.
masaccio @ 6
Just compare what he says to the quotes of Edwards, Richardson, and Obama. They friggin’ wipe the FLOOR with him.
dakine01 @ 14
He knows people think he’s stupid. That’s why he always says “I know that” and “I understand that”, and always says things twice, like “Putin has to understand the Cold War is over. It ended.”
Rice seems to be treated with kid gloves by the MSM. And I’m sick of it. Rice is one of the worst Secretaries of State this country has ever had.
GeorgeSimian @ 4
Yep – sorta watched while writing last night, but I think it was excellent.
Good morning everyone. Anyone get a perfect score?
Does anyone know if there are going to be videos available of the various speeches, panels, etc. at the Take Back America conference? I’d sure love to see a number of them (in addition to the wonderful Digby speech we’ve been treated to above).
For instance, Marcy’s on a panel with Joe Conason today. Would LOVE to see that!! But many other good ones as well.
Could there be a more clear statement of the manichean view the president brings to every political issue? Glenn Greenwald must love this one. The only way he can characterize the Fatah/Hamas conflict is black and white, evil versus good, freedom-loving versus terrorist. So now we have to endure the idea that Fatah is the beneficent leader the Palestinian people need to lead them out of darkness and into light?
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 17
Well done. That was a hard one — a link within a link, to an small quote at the end of a long speech. 15 minute recess, then back to work.
selise @ 18
Exactly. Remember how the Cons whined that we shouldn’t talk about Abu Ghraib because “it would inflame the Iraqis when they found out”? Hell, the Iraqis already knew about it because they were hearing about it from their jailed loved ones (the ones who didn’t die in custody, that is). The Cons didn’t want Joe and Jane Sixpack in America to know about it.
Mauimom, go to the Our Future site, where speeches show up over the course of the conference and after. In the years I’ve attended, nearly everything shows up eventually.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
I’m never sure how to treat Rice. She is ineffective, and she may also be the only barrier in the Oval Office to the “crazies” in the OVP. If she resigned, would we be better or worse off?
Worse. I agree that she is now the closest thing to a voice of reason in that entire rabbit hole. And ain’t it a sorry day when Condi Rice is the voice of reason?!
The Middle East is exploding and Rice gives us drivel about what’s going on in Gaza. Today Israel is doing air strikes in Gaza. Bush is loving it. Recall Olmert was in DC a few days ago plotting with Condi and George, Dick and I imagine Gates.
barbara @ 27
Thanks.
If irony were a cartoon anvil, Bush would be flattened. All the things he accuses Hamas of are the very things *he* is doing and has done.
Condi is a lying sack of shit. She sucks at everything except lying, which is very, very good at. And she’s as loyal to Bush as Gonzo.
As long as Rove, Cheney, the neocons and Bush remain in charge, nothing will change. Rumsfeld was replaced; what’s changed? Powell was replaced; what’s changed? Snow replaced what’s his name; what’s changed? Has there been a replacement for Libby? If so, what’s changed?
I cheated and skipped to the answers at the end, does that mean I’m a Republican now?
Condi does one thing well as far as I can tell. She shops.
Millineryman @ 35
Only if you go unpunished. Take a lap, hatman.
Phoenix Woman @ 26
Not entirely OT:
Apparently even the embedded journalist system in Iraq is
not providing the kind of coverage that it used to.
So, the rules have been changed.
Scarecrow @ 37
A lap it is, the last thing I would ever want is to be considered a Republican.
Scarecrow @ 37
Alhtough, I don’t blame anyone for skipping to the end and playing the Digby speech from last night. I did that myself while composing/proofing. Awesome woman. Awesome video.
I hereby commute your sentence to Half a lap, free on bail while appealing.
Never heard Paul Potts before. Chills, goosebumps, teary eyes. Thank you Scarecrow. This man can SING.
Another Quiz: Do You Know Which US Attorney’s Case This Is?
The ‘Family Secrets’ trial, a major mob case, opened in Chicago this week. Patrick Fitzgerald secured the indictment in 2005, and according to the UK Independent, he is appearing in the courtroom. But Fitzgerald is not mentioned in today’s coverage by the NYT or either Chicago daily.
Millineryman @ 35
Did you blame the media for something today? Did God tell you to support the pharmaceutical industry? Do you get irate and loud when someone points out that you’re wrong? Do you think that Global Warming is a liberal conspiracy? Do you think that the war in Iraq has something to do with protecting our country from terrorism? Do you think torturing people from other countries makes us safer? Do you think that conservation is for sissies and driving big cars is the right of every American?
If you answered yes to these, you may be turning Repug. Or you may just have a case of Liebermanitis.
scarecrow, you know me, always trying to frame the dialog so it speaks to the greater issue…here I am about to commit teh blasphemy, re framing teh digster…opologies;
sorry digster but there it is, we have to make sure everyone knows who is to blame, the people that actually campaign under the platform that they hate government
we CANNOT elect someone to public office who’s very platform is to undermine government, they will deliberately destroy successful programs in order to prove their point
I am off to work, will not be able to read or post much today, a very long day on the road for me
as always scarecrow, thanx for the post
Remember when the Israeli government said over and over that all Palestinian problems would be solved when we got rid of Arafat? Recall Dick, George and Condi told us all our Iraq problems would be solved when we got rid of Saddam?
I honestly haven’t looked at the answers yet…
1. Scalia
2. Condi(?)
3. Seymour Hersh
4. Bloomberg
5. Obama(?)
6. Kucinich(?)
7. Feingold(?)
8. Condi(?)
9. Gore(?)
10. Soprano(?)
11. Kos(?)
What do I win?
well, I got the first four correct… I was on a roll, for a minute…
perris @ 44
perris — your point is fine, but I would never edit what digby said.
Bonus #12: “If you wanna protect marriage, you know what’s a threat to marriage??? DIVORCE is a threat to marriage. You know what else is a threat to marriage? INFIDELITY…DOMESTIC VIOLENCE…LOSING YOUR JOB is a threat to marriage. MARRIAGE is NOT a threat to marriage.”
ANSWER
Scarecrow @ 40
Thank you your honor. The crows have given you a bad rap.
Good morning from L.A. Answer to #1- my neighbor’s 17 yr. old son? He thinks Jack Bauer walks on water.
Really wish you’d included the Althouse quote re: Clinton & the o-rings ;-)
Bonus #12: “If you wanna protect marriage, you know what’s a threat to marriage??? DIVORCE is a threat to marriage. You know what else is a threat to marriage? INFIDELITY…DOMESTIC VIOLENCE…LOSING YOUR JOB is a threat to marriage. MARRIAGE is NOT a threat to marriage. I support equality!“
ANSWER
Pete Bogs @ 46
More homework. But thanks for taking the quiz. At least you didn’t cheat.
Lou Costello @ 49
Were Musgrave and Althouse separated at birth?
Lou Costello @ 52
that’s a great quote/answer. Thanks for the video link.
Scalia knows Jack Bauer is a role? He is a SCJ?
Well, #10 stumped me – but I do know who Paul Potts is…now. I stumbled across him last night. JezzusChrist! WHAT A VOICE! It WAS stunning.
GeorgeSimian @ 10
GS — they really did expect to walk in and walk out. They really ate up that crap that Chalabi fed them, believed that the Iraqis would greet them with flowers and call them victors. Hence the termination of Shinseki who actually knew what he was talking about when he asked for 300K plus in troop level to do the job correctly.
More importantly, they really believed this would be the PERFECT reelection campaign photo-op. Check your gut for a second and ask yourself if this is not the truth, that they believed they would be fully drawn down by January 2004 in time for the primary season, so that it wouldn’t be a topic for any of the Democrats to use.
Rove’s math failed then, too, and we forgot to jump his ass about it.
Attack that killed kids targeted al-Qaida leader
Officials: Military knew children were present but considered risk worth it
U.S. special operations forces were targeting the leader of al-Qaida in Afghanistan — one of the organization’s top commanders — when they launched an attack against a compound that killed seven children Sunday in Paktika province of eastern Afghanistan, U.S. officials tell NBC News.
Wordsmith @ 57
What I love about that story is the theme of seemingly ordinary people with extraordinary gifts — we are such a marvelous species, and you just want that to be our signature, and not what we see in the news every day.
ot – again (scarecrow, forgive me)
anyone want to give a listen to rizzo’s nomination hearing from yesterday’s senate intelligence committee hearing? i’ve posted an mp3 (here, scroll down to #8)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
Link? — I’ve been watching that story, because this sounded a lot like the Pakistan airstrike that killed so many civilians.
I’m still kind of in shock [in a good way] at the magnificence of Paul’s voice.
“Love life, truth, and beauty” —egr
Oh really? Where “wasn’t [it] popular to say so”?
Certainly not on the streets of America, where massive demonstrations before the war even started were pointedly ignored by the “mainstream.”
Not the Popularity Contest was strictly a Beltway pehnom and like all the others Obama has his Beltway Blinders on.
I’m SO tired of America.
Scarecrow @ 55
Don’t tell anybody…I got it from HERE! *wink
Homework assignment: Glenn Greenwald, who will be our guest on Book Salon this Sunday, has posted an excerpt from his new book.
egregious @ 63
amazing, left me wanting more… it wasn’t nearly enough.
(and i dont’ even like opera – at least, i thought i didnt’)
Lou Costello @ 65
Oh, that’s funny, because I was just teasing Christy for not knowing that Digby’s video was on FDL last night. I’ve been touche’d, with an accent. The goddesses are just.
Scarecrow @ 62
Heres the link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19318805/
Thank you, Digby!!! Your speech brought tears of hope, and goosebumps down the spine.
You, and all the people you mentioned, have the dedication, knowledge, and critical thinking skills that will keep us all on our toes, and reinforce daily the true meaning of………POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
Bright blessings to us all!!
selise @ 67
You all made me go back & play the clip of Paul Potts that I’d skipped over. Not an opera fan either, but the emotion & beauty of his voice is a wonder, the way the audience gets behind him equally wonderful…
Scarecrow @ 28
There are people, and Rice is one of them, in whom ineffectiveness is not a defect but a gift from the almighty.
Rayne @ 58
not the way I read it. George learned the lessons of the father – never peak too soon. He knew damn well he needed to be at war when the election rolled around. “can’t change horses in midstream.” and it worked! even against a bona fide VN war vet.
Oklahoma kiddo — from your link:
This should lead to court martials, all the way up the chain of command. And these are war crimes.
This is the meaning of “we have to fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here.” Their children, not “ours,” as though somehow, there is some moral distinction. Monstrous. Madness.
egregious @ 63
didn’t he instantly bring tears to your eyes? I was shocked as well. And did you see the judge, the woman? tears streaming down her face. quite a story.
mauimom
somewhere on this site i saw a page for vblogging they were going to do for the take back america conferencehttp://tba2007.confabb.com/con…..07/details
OT, from the Culture of Life Department:
Bush To Veto Stem Cell Bill
OT from the Boston Globe, Justice dept opts out of whistle blower law suits on Iraq
dakine01 @ 78
Yes, front page on today’s Globe. We really have a criminal cabal running the country.
Scarecrow @ 60
Oh, my – absolutely! I swear it’s given me this incredible feeling of hopefulness.
Like egregious said above @41 {my italics}:
….then below @ 63:
“Love life, truth, and beauty” —egr
I listened again to Andre Bocelli sing the same song and then Paul Potts. Damnn! Damnnn!
Betwixt Paul and DIGBY! I’m set for now.
Wow, kinda hard to get past that first one. That’s pretty shameful, and frightening.
Thanks so much, Republicans, for ruining this country and making all good and decent people hang their heads in shame over what you have wrought. Yes, I know many cynical Dems supported you along the way and they need to make retribution too, but you put on the nuke-powered pressure and they caved. You control the media, the message, and you rammed your grandiose plans down our throats.
You need to get of your sorry butts, stop whining, stop trying to scare the living s**t out of every citizen for your own political gain (it’s not working btw), vote to end this war, and work like hell to restore our Constitution.
You need to show some shame and humility for the monster government, the Frankenstein government, if you will, which you have created by enabling this president (or should I say v.p.) to do what he has done and what he continues to do to this nation.
Shame on you. Shame on you all.
I pray to the Lord to make Al Gore our president and retribution shall be ours. Not the ugly, spiteful, violent kind of retribution
you are all so obsessed with, but righteous retribution and justice through rule of law, for all the world to see. That rule of law which you so wantonly despise. That rule of law which our founding fathers fought for so valiantly and which should be held sacred in the hearts of all elected and appointed officials.
[END OF INDIGNANT RANT]
allan_in_upstate @ 38
I saw THAT! Going to bring to someone’s attention after I make coffee.
Looks like there will be hearings this a.m. on a Fair Elections bill. Here’s a link to the hearing.
Christy has a new thread ready.
Morning, gang! Fresh thread, up and running, if you want one. :)
Just by accident I found a quote from Condi Rice, the Worst Secretary of State ever.
“It’s possible today to live in an echo chamber that serves only to reinforce your own high opinion of yourself and what you think,” Rice said. “That is a temptation that educated people have a responsibility to reject.”
Scarecrow @ 79
these are qui tam suits. one advantage is that the lack of DOJ interest in these suits may mean faster action in court. as the Boston Globe piece states: “Under the False Claims Act, cases remain secret until the Justice Department decides whether or not to join them.”
So, if DOJ is getting out of the way, that might speed things up. Of course, there is the burden of bringing the case without the resources of the Federal govt. That is one of the advantages of filing qui tam, you get the govt. to do all the leg work.
Nice to see the clip of Howard Dean, talking some sense about campaigning and bottom up organization. Still lookin’ hot to me, btw. Thanks, Howie, for all you’ve done, for all you do.
crapskie! “Thanks Howie for all you’ve done!” I did use preview, but missed that. I hate it when I do that!
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I have sung in 45 opera productions over the last 20 years, and I promise that every single one has at least one song like that one, only with the costumes, staging, lighting and acting to bring that emotion to the surface no matter how many times you hear it.
great post scarecrow, i scored ok, didn’t get all of them……may use obama’s point that we are sixteen people away from ending this war when i write my senator later. that one of my senators is one of them holding it up.
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comment from president bush about vetoing the embyonic stem cell research funding bill (he may have said american people instead of taxpayers)
“it is immoral for taxpayers to pay for the destruction of life”
yep, he really said that.
guess this war might be immoral.
Scarecrow @ 83
oh fer crying out loud… difi complaining about how easy it is to get signatures… blegh. i wonder if she’s ever stood in front of the supermarket to signatures in order to get someone on the ballot?
TiredFed @ 73
I agree with TiredFed. They needed war powers that the abstract War on Terror just weren’t going to justify. Also, it’s impossible for me to think that money wasn’t involved. The plan before the war was to contract out the rebuilding to US companies, including companies that Cheney still had stock in, and then they went in and bombed the shit out the country so they would have plenty of work.
Plus, they might have thought Democracy would spread and all that, I don’t know. One thing for sure is that they did not do it to protect the US.
On Paul Potts (who, you’re all right, was great) — the last line of Nessun Dorma is vincero (”I will win!”) not vincera (which would mean “she will win” –presumably the incredibly cute little 6-year-old who was the other leading contender in the contest). Just to be pedantic about it.
Clara @ 94
Well, that’s important, and I will change it. Thanks.
Frank33 @ 86
A responsibility she has never taken to heart in any way that’s discernable.
EPUville here, but just wanted to say that I know folks from her time @ Stanford who worked alongside Dr. Rice. To paraphrase a couple of them- Condi should resign from BushCo & return to the halls of academia, where the most damage she can do is attempting to shove her opinions down the throats of hapless undergrads…
Good Morning Scarecrow.
late to the Lake yet again.
summer’s a bear, heh, but the garden’s showing promise of fantastic salads to come ;->
Thank You for another terrific post. Wonderful format for sharing widely, which I plan to do.
I hope you are doing well.
Between Digby and Paul Pott there are no dry hankies left in this house.
Marie Roget @ 96
I don’t want her anywhere near my kids in college! She belongs in a prison cell for all her lies and incompetency.
egregious @ 63
I was also stunned by his performance.
What a huge talent posessed by such a
humble person.