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		<title>By: Middle Class Blues</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-768788</link>
		<dc:creator>Middle Class Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has anyone followed up on the angle that President Bush and Dick Cheney commissioned the Abu Ghraib sexual torture photos and videos at the suggestion of White House boy toy Jeff Gannon (White House reporter and male prostitute)? Is it possible that these men were using this material to achieve what their Vi*gr* was failing to do?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just asking . . .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
~~Modnote: edited to clear filters.~~&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone followed up on the angle that President Bush and Dick Cheney commissioned the Abu Ghraib sexual torture photos and videos at the suggestion of White House boy toy Jeff Gannon (White House reporter and male prostitute)? Is it possible that these men were using this material to achieve what their Vi*gr* was failing to do?</p>
<p>Just asking . . .<br />
<em><br />
~~Modnote: edited to clear filters.~~</em></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy burton</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-768306</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have to keep this story alive.  The blogs have to fan it.  The MSM has already put in way inside.  If only bloggers, New Yorker readers and Wolf Blitzer viewers hear the story the administration knows there are no consequences for trashing the rule of law. We need a strategy to keep this on the surface not disappeared by Wednesday which is just what the White House expects. We need a two to three week relentless blister. That’s what the opposition would do and they would sway the debate.  We have the facts, We need to keep presenting them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to keep this story alive.  The blogs have to fan it.  The MSM has already put in way inside.  If only bloggers, New Yorker readers and Wolf Blitzer viewers hear the story the administration knows there are no consequences for trashing the rule of law. We need a strategy to keep this on the surface not disappeared by Wednesday which is just what the White House expects. We need a two to three week relentless blister. That’s what the opposition would do and they would sway the debate.  We have the facts, We need to keep presenting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaehu</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-768288</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaehu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Those whom the gods destroy they first make mad”  “Let all the monster’s from the mud hatch out!”-they are and they have…..Ho’iho’i i ke ea o Hawai’i Nei, Imua! Freedom to Hawai’i!-Thieves, Sons and Daughters of Thieves!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Those whom the gods destroy they first make mad”  “Let all the monster’s from the mud hatch out!”-they are and they have…..Ho’iho’i i ke ea o Hawai’i Nei, Imua! Freedom to Hawai’i!-Thieves, Sons and Daughters of Thieves!</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-768180</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John McCain and the Republican Congress in a Conspiracy with George W Bush to Obstruct Justice wrote an ex-post facto law, Military Commissions Act, providing Rumsfeld, Bush, Cheney, and CIA civilians immunity from prosecution for their terrorist acts and war crimes in the kidnapping, torture, and murder of prisoners under their orders.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain and the Republican Congress in a Conspiracy with George W Bush to Obstruct Justice wrote an ex-post facto law, Military Commissions Act, providing Rumsfeld, Bush, Cheney, and CIA civilians immunity from prosecution for their terrorist acts and war crimes in the kidnapping, torture, and murder of prisoners under their orders.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-768025</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767359&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;DrDick @ 117&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767354&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 114&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I agree, but it’s imperative that WE do it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;True.  Either we prosecute them or we become accessories after the fact and share the guilt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have to clean up our own mess. We can’t put it off on Europeans or anybody else. If we don’t we’re guilty as charged.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-767359"><em>DrDick @ 117</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-767354"><em>Elliott @ 114</em></a></p>
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I agree, but it’s imperative that WE do it.</p>
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<p>True.  Either we prosecute them or we become accessories after the fact and share the guilt.</p>
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<p>Exactly!</p>
<p>We have to clean up our own mess. We can’t put it off on Europeans or anybody else. If we don’t we’re guilty as charged.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-767588</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767569&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 208&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Ever since the MCA passed last year I have gotten a lot more active, writing, phoning, emailing (including to folks I know who are likely to join me in the writing, phoning, and emailing endeavors).  I even made phone calls for MoveOn prior to the election last fall.  Actually making phone calls has been huge for me, ’cause I’m a wicked phone-phobe.  But, I have not run across Democracy for America before, so thanks for the tip!  I’ll go check them out…  And in the meantime, best of luck to you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good for you, most excellent if you have transcended a phobia to become engaged; nothing will ever be as bad as that, and everything can only be better.  At least that’s been my experience since I become hands-on activist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check for local groups via Meetup.com, using your city or zip code; you may find other groups using Meetup besides DFA.  Craigslist.com may also have group notices for your locale.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And check DFA’s own community pages at dfalink.com for the groups closest to you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Going to Meetups was my own bete-noir; I was concerned that I’d be freaked out by folks I met or they’d breach my privacy.  Now I’m a Meetup organizer and some of my dearest friends I met through Meetups.  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-767569"><em>phred @ 208</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Ever since the MCA passed last year I have gotten a lot more active, writing, phoning, emailing (including to folks I know who are likely to join me in the writing, phoning, and emailing endeavors).  I even made phone calls for MoveOn prior to the election last fall.  Actually making phone calls has been huge for me, ’cause I’m a wicked phone-phobe.  But, I have not run across Democracy for America before, so thanks for the tip!  I’ll go check them out…  And in the meantime, best of luck to you!</p>
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<p>Good for you, most excellent if you have transcended a phobia to become engaged; nothing will ever be as bad as that, and everything can only be better.  At least that’s been my experience since I become hands-on activist.</p>
<p>Check for local groups via Meetup.com, using your city or zip code; you may find other groups using Meetup besides DFA.  Craigslist.com may also have group notices for your locale.</p>
<p>And check DFA’s own community pages at dfalink.com for the groups closest to you.</p>
<p>Going to Meetups was my own bete-noir; I was concerned that I’d be freaked out by folks I met or they’d breach my privacy.  Now I’m a Meetup organizer and some of my dearest friends I met through Meetups.  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-767569</link>
		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767483&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 180&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767422&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phred @ 156&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Thank you Rayne!  I am unwilling to quit the day job to go into politics (and frankly I don’t have the temperament for it), but I am damn glad that you and others are willing to do the heavy lifting for the rest of us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;phred, I’d like to suggest you contact the local Democracy for America and see what they are doing at local level.  They may be able to point you to local campaigns that need your help when you have free time, like phonebanking in the evening, door-to-door canvasssing or literature drops on the weekend, or cash donations.  Vet the candidate and then help as you can; this is democracy in action, and anything you do will help take back our democracy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ever since the MCA passed last year I have gotten a lot more active, writing, phoning, emailing (including to folks I know who are likely to join me in the writing, phoning, and emailing endeavors).  I even made phone calls for MoveOn prior to the election last fall.  Actually making phone calls has been huge for me, ’cause I’m a wicked phone-phobe.  But, I have not run across Democracy for America before, so thanks for the tip!  I’ll go check them out…  And in the meantime, best of luck to you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-767483"><em>Rayne @ 180</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-767422"><em>phred @ 156</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Thank you Rayne!  I am unwilling to quit the day job to go into politics (and frankly I don’t have the temperament for it), but I am damn glad that you and others are willing to do the heavy lifting for the rest of us.</p>
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<p>phred, I’d like to suggest you contact the local Democracy for America and see what they are doing at local level.  They may be able to point you to local campaigns that need your help when you have free time, like phonebanking in the evening, door-to-door canvasssing or literature drops on the weekend, or cash donations.  Vet the candidate and then help as you can; this is democracy in action, and anything you do will help take back our democracy.</p>
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<p>Ever since the MCA passed last year I have gotten a lot more active, writing, phoning, emailing (including to folks I know who are likely to join me in the writing, phoning, and emailing endeavors).  I even made phone calls for MoveOn prior to the election last fall.  Actually making phone calls has been huge for me, ’cause I’m a wicked phone-phobe.  But, I have not run across Democracy for America before, so thanks for the tip!  I’ll go check them out…  And in the meantime, best of luck to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-767556</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;fahrender&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sometimes things flare157.&lt;br /&gt;
some can let it go.&lt;br /&gt;
some just feel a need to gouge old wounds anew.&lt;br /&gt;
trollref195 was from a’fore last election, egad.&lt;br /&gt;
i wish she could let it go.&lt;br /&gt;
you’re entitled to your opinions.&lt;br /&gt;
i’m entitled to mine.&lt;br /&gt;
and so on…&lt;br /&gt;
and so on…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;please keep commenting freely at the Lake.&lt;br /&gt;
maybe i’ll agree with you sometimes,&lt;br /&gt;
maybe not, heh. ;-&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>fahrender</em></p>
<p>sometimes things flare157.<br />
some can let it go.<br />
some just feel a need to gouge old wounds anew.<br />
trollref195 was from a’fore last election, egad.<br />
i wish she could let it go.<br />
you’re entitled to your opinions.<br />
i’m entitled to mine.<br />
and so on…<br />
and so on…</p>
<p>please keep commenting freely at the Lake.<br />
maybe i’ll agree with you sometimes,<br />
maybe not, heh. ;-&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: fahrender</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-767539</link>
		<dc:creator>fahrender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-767515&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adie @ 195&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;fahrender&lt;/em&gt;, I appreciate your comments and the wisdom that guides them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe you can surmise i have taken heat of some 157variety at times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;black&amp;white&amp;shades of gray make up a real world, perhaps sadly, but that’s just how it is…&lt;br /&gt;
we can have pure feelings, but we still have to deal with imperfect reality in order to try to make things better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there are worse things than having been tarred (aw heck, once -at last count- called a #%*# &lt;em&gt;troll&lt;/em&gt; FGS!?!)for supporting a candidate you think will be/is a good Senator *ducks for cover*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;happily, altho i also get mopey on a regular basis, i too suffer the burdon of a solid streak of stubborn that keeps me goin’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Lake’s a wonderful place for all of us to meet, eh?!  ;-&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;{{{Peace}}} {{{Justice}}}&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks, Adie. i’m learning stuff about myself here today. i hope i do hear from mandrake and hotflash. in the end we may have to just agree to disagree but i can listen and i can reflect on things people tell me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-767515"><em>Adie @ 195</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>fahrender</em>, I appreciate your comments and the wisdom that guides them.</p>
<p>maybe you can surmise i have taken heat of some 157variety at times.</p>
<p>black&amp;white&amp;shades of gray make up a real world, perhaps sadly, but that’s just how it is…<br />
we can have pure feelings, but we still have to deal with imperfect reality in order to try to make things better.</p>
<p>there are worse things than having been tarred (aw heck, once -at last count- called a #%*# <em>troll</em> FGS!?!)for supporting a candidate you think will be/is a good Senator *ducks for cover*</p>
<p>happily, altho i also get mopey on a regular basis, i too suffer the burdon of a solid streak of stubborn that keeps me goin’.</p>
<p>The Lake’s a wonderful place for all of us to meet, eh?!  ;-&gt;</p>
<p>{{{Peace}}} {{{Justice}}}</p>
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<p>thanks, Adie. i’m learning stuff about myself here today. i hope i do hear from mandrake and hotflash. in the end we may have to just agree to disagree but i can listen and i can reflect on things people tell me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/18/violations/#comment-767538</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy 202&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;keep including everyone in that system, and i’ll be satisfied.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is indeed a good place, largely due to careful tending.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for your efforts in a difficult job.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy 202</p>
<p>keep including everyone in that system, and i’ll be satisfied.</p>
<p>this is indeed a good place, largely due to careful tending.</p>
<p>thanks for your efforts in a difficult job.</p>
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