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The audacity of. . . what now?
For those of you who missed it, the Obama campaign launched an attack on Hillary Clinton laden with racist, anti-Indian code to make Lou Dobbs proud. In fact, the Obama opposition research memo calls Senator Clinton "(D-Punjab)" and quotes Lou Dobbs prominently in support of its arguments. Go read the whole thing.
The non partisan US India Political Action Committee is asking Obama to respond directly to his campaign's use of racist stereotypes, but so far, here's the Obama campaign's version of taking responsibility, with no word yet from Obama himself (emphasis added):
"Barack Obama has been a longtime friend of the Indian-American community and our campaign is fortunate to have strong support from Indian Americans across the country. The intent of the document was to discuss the issue of outsourcing, but we regret the tone that parts of the document took," he said in the statement.
Hey, look what that crazy document did, all by itself, taking that offensive tone and all.
For the record, I'd be quite happy for the Democratic presidential hopefuls to make the differences among them more clear for the voters. Right now these differences are blurred as they appear afraid to open up a cycle of mutually assured destruction, but the voters need to see who's on audition and what they each have to offer.
Senator Clinton's views on trade, and her associations with known union busters like Mark Penn, are all fair game. But if Obama's "new kind of politics" means he's willing to throw people of color under the bus to make the point, well, I'd have to say, I suppose that's information we should all have as well.
The longer Obama is personally silent about all this, the more he owns that memo written by a staffer.
Tick tock, tick tock.
UPDATE: Well, that didn't take long. This went up around 7:30 pm Eastern Time:
Obama calls Clinton memo 'dumb mistake'
NEWTON, Iowa - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) on Monday said his campaign made a "dumb mistake" when it circulated a memo criticizing rival
Hillary Rodham Clinton's financial ties to India.In an interview with The Associated Press, Obama disavowed the memo which carried the headline — "Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)" -- and referred to Bill and Hillary Clintons' investments in India; her fundraising among Indian-Americans; and the former president's $300,000 in speech fees from Cisco, a company that has moved U.S. jobs to India.
"It was a dumb mistake on our campaign's part and I made it clear to my staff in no uncertain terms that it was a mistake," Obama told the AP in a brief interview in which he referred to the memo as "unnecessarily caustic."
Last Thursday, Obama's campaign sent the memo to reporters, demanding that it not be attributed to their campaign. The Clinton campaign obtained the document and sent it to journalists. Since then, it has created a furor in the Indian-American community and raised questions about Obama's claims that he is above attack politics.
"It is not reflective of the long-standing relationship I have had with the Indian-American community," Obama said in the interview.
"The issue of outsourcing is a genuine and important issue but to refer to one particular country was, I think, an error and I let all of us know that we've got to be more careful about how we communicate," he said.
In a statement on his Web site, Obama said he was not aware of the contents of the memo before it was distributed. The Illinois senator said he was responsible for the mistake and the campaign had taken appropriate action "to prevent errors like this from happening in the future."
The campaign said the new policy is to ensure that senior staff will review materials before they are distributed publicly.
UPDATE II: I hate to pile on, but this Obama statement is really weak. The memo was not just "unnecessarily caustic." It was xenophobic and bigoted, but whatever, I guess. Somehow Obama gets a pass on this that I doubt any other Democratic candidate would get.
Also, he asserts in this version of the story that he "quickly apologized." Really? Where? Apologized for what, for the actions of the junior staffers he's now holding out as the culprits? For lax management? That seems to be what he's claiming is his wrongdoing: his senior staff was insufficiently attentive to the opposition research shop.
Saying you've "apologized" does not make it so, and if that original statement quoted in the main post is the earlier apology to which he refers, well, I don't think that word means what he thinks it means. Of course, in reality, Obama knows the difference between actually apologizing and pushing race baiting oppo into the media bloodstream without thinking he'll pay a price for it. Given that so much of the interest in the primaries is candidate biography and personality based, rather than about ideas and ideology, he may well be right.
This torment of the English language is part of the infection in our national politics, not the solution, in my view.
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Circular firing squad time.
I dislike the two front runners.
allan_in_upstate @ 1
Yup.
Gore.
Gore / Bloomberg ‘08 !
Pach:
Respectfully, in first paragraph: “priminently”.
Spiritcatcher @ 5
And respectfully, Bloomberg?
Sorry, no.
Party unity is important, and there is such a thing as a “circular firing squad dynamic.”
At the same time, the primary season is the time we get to learn about the candidates and what they stand for, and what makes each different. It’s also when we have a conversation with the party about what it should stand for.
It’s just not good enough to act as if any criticism of candidates is verboten. What we can do - and this is the intent of this post - is to lay out what kinds of criticism are okay and what kinds are not.
Using right wing talking points or racist code language is just not okay.
Pretty foul move by Obama’s campaign, after Obama has been telling everyone he wants to “raise the discourse.” It’s amazing how easily Obama can adopt rightwing framing of things, from falsely claiming Democrats tried to “defund the troops” to this pointless xenophobia. The issue of offshoring of jobs is about exploiting cheap labor for profit at the expense of American workers, not about the race or culture of foreign countries.
Shame on the Obama campaign, they’ve belittled themselves with this seemingly desperate appeal to the basest nature of voters.
before obama even anounced his candicy I said I thought he was drinking the corporate koolaid.
I am not comfortable one bit with him as our candidate
xenophobia
If you’re going to stand up and make what seeem to be sincere, heart-felt speeches about finding a new kind of politics you can’t indulge yourself in this kind of crap. Obama’s a guy that makes people want to believe in him, but so far his actions haven’t lived up to his words.
Obama and Hillary are both ruthless. I am not fooled by the veneer.
Am I being moderated all the time now, or is it just my choice of a certain Greek-derived word?
If you don’t like the DLC, then it follows you cannot be warm to Hillary or Obama.
C’mon, man. This is so simple. Just say that you have so many “advisors” that you can’t approve every single sentence that comes out of the campaign, and that this person has been fired. Unless of course you did approve this.
More cowbell. Fewer triangles.
Not to excuse Obama, but Hillary is the one who created the D-Punjab joke:
Obama, after such an auspicious start, and the speech at the last convention, seemed like “Teh Guy”.
But his constan meandering toward middle-of-the-road muddled thinking, and now this, c’mon, Dude! Either lead, or get out of the way.
Hillary and Obama. Two breaths of very stale air.
Okay, I believe the “lack of experience” factor is blinking like a neon sign here.
The outsourcing hypocrisy? Fair game, smart move. The “Punjab” comment and Indian-baiting, not so smooth.
It’s amazing we are even having this discussion when we have so many other far better Democrats than these two.
1,554 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Pachacutec and the Firepup Patriots:
Al Gore is lookin’ better’n better every day…ani’t he?
KEEP THE FAITH, YA DON’T HAFTA LOOK VERY FAR TA FIND THE BAD GUYS!!
BTW:
Outsourcing is a class and labor issue in the context of globalization. It is most certainly NOT about race and ethnicity.
Apologies for the bold, but this distinction is important.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 22
He sure is. ;0)
The true mistake of the Obama people in this document was to focus on the “India” aspect of this range of corporate-linked topics, instead of the outsourcing, “free” trade market fundamentalism, anti-workerism, union-busting aspects of Hillary and other of the center-right DLC approaches.
Is this what they call “gutter politics”?
This is the 5th blog report that I’ve seen that leaves out the fact that Hillary said she was the Senator from Punjab and calls the comment racist on Obama’s part.
Some accuracy would be really nice.
El Cid @ 25
and this is why i am so pissed at obama…
his staff is using the very same distraction technique that the “cheap labor” republicans use:
look! over there! a brown person!
god forbid that the corporate sponsored trade agreements be critically analyzed.
Justin @ 27
See my comment in 17.
There are so many great things Hillary can do — senator, majority leader, ambassador, or being the public face of some foundation or cause — why be a mediocre presidential candidate?
Looks like things are gettin’ nasty, now. Gloves are off. Well, perhaps if these two can ramp things up to an uncomfortably nasty level in the next few months, their popularity will start to tank and we won’t have to listen to eternal speculation by the likes of Tweety and others about their electibility, presidentiality, blah, blah, blah.
(Yeah, I know, but a girl can dream).
If not Gore, Edwards
Obama and Hillary are both ruthless..
And, if we’re lucky they will destroy each other.
We need better candidates.
Outsourcing of American jobs is the issue. Factories have moved to China taking American jobs and producing lead-painted toys and toxic food. Even Republicans get H-1B visas for republican campaign jobs. Hillary Clinton supports sending our jobs to other countries. Why does Hillary Clinton hate America.
Obama has become conventional unfortunately.
Wake up Democrats. Get rid of the DLC.
Justin @ 27
Justin quickly parries with the Don Imus “rappers use the n-word” argument!
-GSD
Biodun @ 29
Looks like it’s not a secret but somehow the information keeps getting left out of the posts. Other than in the comments I mean.
GSD @ 36
I guess inaccurate reporting isn’t just for the right-wingers!
Biodun @ 23
I find it interesting that this truth, which has become more and more evident to the general populus, is being manipulated by the Obama camp in this xenophobic fashion. It is painfully obvious that his peeps do not know what they are doing.
If they’d addressed Clinton’s hypocrisy in the terms you described above, they’d be ahead of the game right now.
Justin @ 27
That fact doesn’t change the racebaiting nature of the Obama attack. The intent of the memo is to use fear and derision to get supporters to turn on Hillary.
Creating some bogus attack on a minor point without addressing the actual issue is a favorite tactic of the rightwing propaganda machine, is it the best way to try and defend Obama? Quick, everyone! What about the kerning! Look at the kerning!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 15
Well, that explains why they have always left me cold.
Hillary did say that, but it has nothing whatever to do with the framing of it by Obama’s campaign in xenophobic anti-Indian language.
Hillary made an offhand joke and Obama’s people tried to turn it into an epithet. There’s a difference.
Justin @ 38
Did the Obama literature state that they were quoting Hillary Clinton’s quip?
-GSD
Mandrake @ 39
Would it have been xenophobic and/or racist if the country were England rather than India?
Would it have even made a ripple?
realworld @ 31
Yes, yes, yes !!!!!!!!!
Pachacutec @ 42
In your opinion, would the perception of xenophobia be present if the country was England or France rather than India?
realworld @ 32
or maybe gore/edwards?
And Obama is most certainly NOT stupid. But why is he allowing this stuff to seep out of his campaign? First his general counsel. Then this.
GSD @ 43
I guess stenography isn’t just for the mainstream media!
Digging into stories, which this blog is wonderful at, is a good thing. Taking stories at face value tends not to be such a good thing.
I think Gore is running.
realworld @ 32
I read a NYT article this morning by Adam NaGonad where he said Edwards was a DLC candidate in 2003-4 and was considered too centrist for many Dems then. What the hell did I miss in 2003-4?!? I always thought Edwards was the populist candidate!
Suppose this plays into the flip-flopper theme, now that he’s the “leftist” candidate that doesn’t support George and Dick’s Not-so-Excellent Adventure in Iraq, even though he voted to authorize it. Sigh…guess I should just prepare for “the Dems are flipflopping opportunists that don’t stand for anything.” Thanks NYT…
puppethead @ 40
If the country was England would it have been perceived as race-baiting or xenophobia?
realworld @ 32
Chris Dodd.
Pachacutec @ 42
A lot like Limbaugh’s calling Bill Clinton “the first black president.” Bill said it, but Rush turned it into an attack.
Biodun @ 46
Yes. It is confusing, though the stuff by the general counsel had more plausible deniability built in to it. That may or may not have been a lawyer freelancing and showing terrible judgment, or it could have been a cut out sending code to certain funding sources/opportunities.
But this memo is from the Obama campaign, full stuff.
Did Obama hire Rove?
selise @28: You said it, selise! We are thirsting, starving, dying to hear somebody get up and take this thing head on with some plain talk. I think Edwards has come the closest.
But apparently plain talk about those corporate sponsored trade agreements is off-limits to these two. So, naturally, they’ll have to play a bait-and-switch game.
Hey guys, we’re not that dumb.
Pach at 42:
I agree with the framing. But Hillary supplied the painting. Without the painting (content) there can be no framing, only an empty frame. My 17 is not excusing Obama.
puppethead @ 40
If it was England instead of India would it be race-baiting?
Obama should hire Mudflap Saunders! Does that tool still have a job?
Justin,
Your straw man is ablaze. It wasn’t England, it was India.
-GSD
Gore is holding back until after his Nobel Peace Prize nomination!
he is holding back…watching the dog fight!
We’ve got Dodd, Kucinich, Biden, Edwards, Richardson, Clark and others. What do the front runners have? Lots of money and a pair of big mouths.
what you mean, “IF”?
to have reached the place in the political hierarchy achieved by Obama, Her Royal Clintoris, Gore, Biden or any of ‘em–to say absolutely notheing at all about the PUKES–they’d have had long since to have demonstrated not only the willingness but the ability to throw their allies–hell, their own grandmother–under a bus to get ahead…
the USer system does not reward ANY deviation from this standard: Ya gotta not only be willing, ya gotta WANNA fuck your buddies in the name of the ‘corpoRatocracy’ that keeps everything running so smoothly…
.
Kathleeen @ 62
I think you are right. ;0)
GSD @ 57
You fail to see the point?
This is no more race-baiting than pointing out that Bush administration policies benefit his rich donors (his base as he calls them) is class-warfare.
I reckon this is Obama’s “Sista Souljah” moment.
I didn’t like it when Clinton did it, and I don’t like it any better now.
People better get to the realization quick that green is the driving color in our society, and those who control the green are using other colors on the palette - black, white, brown, yellow - to stay in control.
If a DLC’er wins in 2008, the day they take office marks the end of Republic and the beginning of Empire.
Republicans set the table(think NAFTA) and then a country club Democrat says the blessing.
Justin @ 27
ditto
Oklahoma kiddo @ 62
And the DLC consultant package.
Around Labor Day, we should get a ‘Draft Gore’ campaign going. Hillary is wedded to the corporations and has an Iraq stance that is questionable, while Obama is showing me nothing that says he’s ready for the job.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
no, he’s not.
yellowdogD @ 70
Yes. ;0)
The Obama camp was playing to a real base element with that Punjab jab. There is no way around it. The blather about Hillary’s quip is incidental.
Really.
I am not any where near a Hillary supporter and was leaning towards Obama. So I am not a knee-kerk Hillaryist. But Obama, really, this is lame.
-GSD
wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 62
You should write speeches for candidates.
bonkers @ 51
Considering the wingnut candidates, it would be difficult for the MSM to portray the dems in that light without casting that net over their own as well.
lina @ 71
?
OT - regarding republican davis’ demand that Valerie Plame ‘be subpoenaed’ (yes, how about try asking politely first) back before the House Oversight Committee, could this relate to more than countering the Libby behind bars news and trying to take Waxman’s eye off the ball from other pressing matters - i.e. having a specific goal of nailing down certain points that could be later used to undermine the Wilson’s civil suit?
Biodun @ 57
Well, looking at the quote you provided, she seems to be attributing the original comment to Singh (Chatwal?). I think Hill is too smart to make such a gaffe completely unaided. Unless Singh did not call her the “Senator of Punjab.” Knowing her, that’s hard to believe. Not a fan, mind you, but I have a hard time believing she’d stick her foot in her mouth that hard.
Also, I might as well add this:
The Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama campaigns may well create problems for the Dems (both politicians and the electorate) in the months to come. They’re both identity politics candidates, a hot-button issue, and they may well short-circuit each other. Just as the black power movement and the feminists short-circuited each other in the 1970s.
Dems in general may well be treading a very thin line in the near future. As the French say: Attention! in the double sense of “Pay attention!” and “Danger!”
I suspect that, should Gore receive the Nobel, in a perverse way that is All-Murkin in it’s savage anti-intellectualism, it will NOT redound to his credit with the Joe and Mary Sixpack crowd, OR the soccer-moms, or the rest of ‘middle Murka’; indeed, it will likely work AGAINST him to have such international recognition, a la Jimmy Carter…
Again, it is their “aides” that are writing these things. When are the candidates going to review what gets put out there? What is up with the staff people on these campaigns, are they really for the candidate they are representing?
Muzzy @ 76
It’s an attempt at a shiny object for the republics. The entire committee has to vote to subpoena. There is little to no chance of this happening.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 76
i know people who know both Gores socially. He’s not running.
Spiritcatcher @ 5
Gore/Tester or Gore/Webb, please…
This is the second major misstep inside of a week. Obama really should know better than this. And I don’t care that it’s supposedly his surrogates who are doing the mudslinging. He needs to step up to the plate, right now, and reset the tone for his campaign. If he wants to look different from all the other politicians, he needs to ACT different.
Looks like Obama reads our minds. He has fully apologized himself.
Obama: Campaign’s ‘Punjab’ remark was ’stupid’
http://desmoinesregister.com/a.....01/archive
Completely OT- Larry Johnson will be speaking tonight in Venice CA, tomorrow night over the hill in Encino CA. Trying to finish up @ AFI over here in Hllywd early enough to make it to his Venice appearance. Angelenos, time & place info is here:
Larry Johnson L.A. Appearance Info
This is just the kind of thing Gore needs to jump in — the more they keep after each other, the bigger the opening becomes.
Run, Al, run!!!!!!!
lina @ 83
d’accorde: he’s said so many times, so firmly, and with so much passion that he’s not gonna run, it would be a HUGE (PR) blunder to reverse that stance now…
Ed*ard Teller @ 84
Newsflash: Both Gore and Newt are just using the press to get free publicity in order to sell books. Neither one has any intention of running.
Erica @ 87
Thank you. That was easy. Obama ‘08!
The Hillary/Obama shootout is a perfect example of the hideousness of campaigns that Gore says he hates. If Gore does throw his hat in the presidential ring, before or after he wins the Nobel Peace Prize, he will turn the world of campaign strategy on its head and remake it in the positive way that Rove and Atwater revolutionized it in the negative way. That is my dream.
bonkers @ 50
I don’t know what article you read, but the NYT is full of bull. Edwards was most certainly NOT considered too centrist by Dems in 2003-2004. He was plenty centrist, like most of the rest of them. He did play on the populist theme, but I don’t think anybody was paying much attention at the time.
He is certainly more populist than these two. He is considered more to the left now b/c he came out later and said his vote was wrong, before it became popular to criticize the war. And he’s been a pretty vocal critic since then.
So he does have the baggage of the vote, but he let go of it early while Hillary was still playing the hawk.
PS — In 2003-04, despite his moderate record as governor of VT, Howard Dean was annointed a flaming liberal by the press and was hence way too far to the left for the comfort of the DLC, not to mention the fact he had no real connections. I’m like you, I don’t know where the hell this Nagourney person was back then.
selise @ 47
or maybe gore/edwards?
Yeppers… ;
yellowdogD @ 70
GET a Draft Gore campaign going? It’s been going for a long time now — all over the country. Go to www.algore.org and find a group near you. Get involved. The more people he sees want him to run, the better chance we have. The message has been going out loud and clear at his book signings, and he has not shut the door yet.
Gnome de Plume @ 93
I believe nobody will challenge gore if he runs, I believe he will give us a unified front and the race will be for who will be his running mate
Joe-Bama!
just thought I’d do this once in a post that was actually about the junior senator from illinois.
I hope there some crazy millionaire willing to mount a primary challenge
against our Leiberman while is busy running for the WH in 08…
Biodun @ 23
Yes, and it appears that some of the “good” productivity numbers the GOP has been preening about are because they manage to lump the savings that corps get from outsourcing in with productivity!
So along with all their other lies, you can’t trust any of their economic numbers either (inflation, employment, productivity…). (Bondad blog is pretty good at spelling this stuff out.)
Interesting. Hill didn’t get nailed for it, Obama did.
From the desmoinesregister.com article:
I hadn’t heard that Hill actually had investments in India. This raises a legitimate campaign issue about her views on outsourcing and offshoring.
S.O.S. from MA @ 95
gore/edwards not my first choice
gore/feingold
gore/waxman
gore leahey
then possibly gore/edwards
For the Plameologists out there, Hitchens has all of the Free Scooter! talking points conveniently put together for you: http://www.slate.com/id/2168642/
wgg: tokin lib’rul @ 91
In 2004, he asked the draft movement to stop what they were doing — he has made no such request yet this time around. We’re fairly confident he will jump in. Until he asks us to stop, we will hold out hope that he will answer the call. He firmly told Larry King that he has no interest in being Secretary of State or in any other cabinet post. He has made no such statement regarding the presidency.
Erica @ 87
From the link above:
My bold. Please read Freud’s Jokes and Their Relation to the Unconscious.
Al Gore for the next president of the United States of America!
Erica @ 84
Or our blogs. He would be stupid if he didn’t have people reading some of them, keeping a finger in the wind.
perris @ 101
Would like to see Gore run, but why should he? It would be like walking barefoot into a pig pen. What a nasty campaign this is going to be !
Oklahoma kiddo @ 50
ditto. i have a few bets going on this… 6-packs, burritos, etc
perris @ 98
I absolutely agree with you.
Gore/Obama
Gore/Clark
Gore/Feingold
Gore/Edwards…
in no particular order.
Gore/Anybody-but-LIEberman would be fine by me.
Folks — we do not advocate torture for anyon