I don’t visit Speaker Pelosi’s blog The Gavel as often as I should. Which is a mistake: It’s rapidly become a must-use resource for those of us who are looking for a way around the GOP/Media Complex’s filtering action.
For instance, it’s covering two major stories today. One of them, the one concerning the RNC’s wholesale destruction of e-mails sent by White House officials using RNC accounts, is big news at least here in the blogosphere and at the WaPo and among enlightened folk like Dan Froomkin, who touches on it in his column today.
But check this out too, which we all know full well won’t make it to the evening news:
GAO Report Shows Power Grab in Presidential Signing Statements
(Washington, DC)- Today, the nonpartisan General Accounting Office (GAO) released a report which found that in a limited number of Presidential signing statements examined, the Bush Administration failed to execute the law as instructed in over 30 percent of the cases. House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Jr. (D-MI) and Senate Appropriations Chairman Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) requested the report.
GAO researchers found signing statements in 11 of 12 appropriations acts in fiscal year 2006 and examined a sample of 19 provisions with which the President expressed concern in his signing statements. The President objected to, and federal agencies failed to execute, public law in six of those cases – 30 percent of the total sample.
[...]
The new GAO opinion underscores an April finding by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service (CRS). The April report found that President George W. Bush has raised objections in his signing statements far more than any of his predecessors. In fact, President Bush issued 149 signing statements, 127 (85 percent) of which raised some objection. The significant rise in the proportion of constitutional objections made by the President Bush is compounded by the fact that these statements are typified by multiple objections, resulting in over 700 challenges to distinct provisions of law.In comparison, CRS found that President Reagan issued 276 signing statements, 71 of which (26%) contained provisions questioning the constitutionality of one or more of the statutory provisions signed into law. President Clinton issued 391 statements, 105 of which (27%) raised constitutional concerns or objections.
Neat, huh? But wait — there’s more:
GAO researchers also studied how federal courts view Presidential signing statements. They found that courts rarely rely on them as authoritative interpretations of the law.
Take THAT, David Addington!
And as I’ve already mentioned, there’s this piece, addressing today’s big scandal which Christy has already referenced, on BushCo’s RNC e-mails and the Presidential Records Act. Here’s the short version:
- The number of White House officials given RNC e-mail accounts is higher than previously disclosed. (At first, Dana Perino would only ‘fess up to “a handful”; then the handful became fifty; now it’s at least 88 — so far.)
- White House officials made extensive use of their RNC e-mail accounts. Karl Rove alone sent and recieved over 140,000 e-mails from his RNC account, over half of which were sent to or received from people with “.gov” e-mail extensions. Other heavy RNC e-mail account users included former White House Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 e-mails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 e-mails). Remember, these e-mail accounts were used by White House officials for official purposes, such as communicating with federal agencies about federal appointments and policies.
And the biggies:
- There has been extensive destruction of the e-mails of White House officials by the RNC. Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC e-mail accounts, the RNC has preserved no e-mails for 51 officials. Among the missing: Ken Mehlman, the former Director of Political Affairs (and former head of the RNC).
- There is evidence that the Office of White House Counsel under Alberto Gonzales may have known that White House officials were using RNC e-mail accounts for official business, but took no action to preserve these presidential records. There is no evidence, however, that White House Counsel Gonzales initiated any action to ensure the preservation of the e-mail records that were destroyed by the RNC.
In response, the Oversight Committee recommends the following actions:
There are several next steps that should be pursued in the investigation into the use of RNC e-mail accounts by White House officials. First, the records of federal agencies should be examined to assess whether they may contain some of the White House e-mails that have been destroyed by the RNC. The Committee has already written to 25 federal agencies to inquire about the e-mail records they may have retained from White House officials who used RNC and Bush Cheney ’04 e-mail accounts. Preliminary responses from the agencies indicate that they may have preserved official communications that were destroyed by the RNC.
Second, the Committee should investigate what former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales knew about the use of political e-mail accounts by White House officials. If Susan Ralston’s testimony to the Committee is accurate, there is evidence that Mr. Gonzales or counsels working in his office knew in 2001 that Karl Rove was using his RNC e-mail account to communicate about official business, but took no action to preserve Mr. Rove’s official communications.
Third, the Committee may need to issue compulsory process to obtain the cooperation of the Bush Cheney ’04 campaign. The campaign has informed the Committee that it provided e-mail accounts to 11 White House officials, but the campaign has unjustifiably refused to provide the Committee with basic information about these accounts, such as the identity of the White House officials and the number of e-mails that have been preserved.
Wham! The Gavel has spoken. Wake up and smell the oversight, Karl. You too, Alberto.
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zunoed?
a zed? an uno? lil ol’ me???
Dakine!
PW!
[sigh] an also-ran again…..
You know, out here in California, real estate people have an expression: a “scrape”, which means to completely tear down the existing structure and rebuild. You would do this when the value of the land supports it and it’s cheaper than reburbishing the existing house.
“Scrape” is the little word that pops into my head time and ahead when I read about the ongoing malfeasance in the White House.
Our country’s value would justify an entire “scrape”…
this will manifest in a “so what…we claim executive priveledge…nothing to see here, move along”
and of course we WILL move along…for instance;
HOW THE HELL IS ABU TORTURE STILL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL?
the man obstructed justice, lied before congress, never showed up for work, approved illegal activities of his subordinates
YET HE STILL PRESIDES
really, the democrats have to do more then “investigate”..charges MUST be preferred…STARTING with Abu torture
oddmommy @ 4
One thing about being out of work is time on my hands…
So with all the lawbreaking, when do we get to Impeach?
To answer my own question, when the R’s realize that to hang on to Bush will destroy their party. As David Gergan said if things stay this bad and Iraq does not improve (fat chance it will) and the R’s do not reject Bush they will be picking up the remnants of their party with tweezers.
If we can’t get em on the original crimes, which would be a damn shame, we can get em on the coverup.
do-si-do @ 5
my theory is, king george the last will finally plunge completely off the deep end and declare himself emperor for life……and then the only option left will be to have a new revolution, and start all over.
Phoenix Woman:
This is EPU’d from Siun’s post last night but pertinent here (it was also brought forward to Christy’s post earlier). FWIW:
They “may” need to rethink this kind of pussyfooting and open up a can of whup-ass.
Sy Hersh on Hardball
Zain Verjee on CNN said “President Mush”. She is cute.
i agree completely about the gavel, PW!
what a great resource it has become. . .
the
lostdestroyed e-mails,and the r.n.c caging, and the detention with-
out charges decision (decried by john yoo!),
all led me to make a mash-up video today.
so, i thought it might seem rather
eloquently ironic, to allow then-attorney-
general john ashcroft — in an address to
the annual meeting of the federalists’ society,
on november 12, 2004 — to describe what this
administration says it believes about
the rule of law — and the role of the law — in
protecting individual liberties from government
usurpations. . . in short, its constitutional theory — vis a vis cheney, and yoo.
trouble is, no one walks the talk on it.
oddmommy @ 10
actually, I think that will be vp-for-life cheney … shooter would be happy to continue ruling with any number of dumb-fuck front guys playing preznit …
Tweety cut Hersh off when he was getting to the good part about Rumsfeld. Cretin.
Yep, I knew it. The missing RNC/Rove emails are encased in cement at the bottom of a lake or in the ocean. Scoundrels.
oddmommy @ 10
If that happens, it won’t be King George. It’ll be Emporer Dick. King George will follow the path of his great, great… whatever.. uncle Franklin Pierce by drinking himself into oblivion, and not on the near-beer that Americablog got upset about. In fact, I think he’s been halfway there on a couple of his recent appearances.
yellowdogD @ 17
You mean the fact that he still has a desk at the Pentagon with a staff of 6?
Interesting. Had never seen what Seymour Hersh looked like before. Thank you Hardball. Matthews has been solidly against the Iraq war/occupation, and is speaking out against the prospect of war against Iran. For all people may say against him, he is solid on these issues.
Why is this taking so long?
The outlines of the email scandal have been known for many weeks, if not months.
It’s almost as if the Democrats were the ones trying to run out the clock.
Are they that incompetent?
egregious @ 9
I need to go look at the actual text of the Pres Records Act, but from what I’ve read so far, if these e-mail shenanigans are not a plain and simple violation of that, I don’t know what would be.
I totally agree with the frustration of all those who are asking, why the F**K does the sun rise and set each day, and proven liars, thieves and murderers remain in power?? Why aren’t things MOVING?
The subpoena issues, for instance…..I read the other day in WaPo that Congress and Uncle Fred “remain at an impasse” about Rove/Miers not testifying under oath.
Well??? It’s your move, honored committee chairmen. When there’s an impasse and the status quo ain’t on your side, what you do is go to court. Maybe that won’t work, maybe it will drag on too long……but that is what you DO, if results are what you want.
I continue to support the Speaker.
unconventional cover the cover-up gavelage.
lee5 @ 16
and if he hangs on long enough, my theory that he IS the antiChrist will finally be proved! [cue Twilight Zone theme]
The money quote from the Froomkin article:
“Larry Wilkerson, former chief of staff to secretary of state Colin Powell, wrote in July 2006 for NiemanWatchdog.org (where I am deputy editor): “Documents and memos that have already made their way into the public domain make it clear that the Office of the Vice President bears responsibility for creating an environment conducive to the acts of torture and murder committed by U.S. forces in the war on terror.
“There is, in my view, insufficient evidence to walk into an American courtroom and win a legal case (though an international courtroom for war crimes might feel differently). But there is enough evidence for a soldier of long service — someone like me with 31 years in the Army — to know that what started with John Yoo, David Addington, Alberto Gonzales, William Haynes at the Pentagon, and several others, all under the watchful and willing eye of the Vice President, went down through the Secretary of Defense to the commanders in the field, and created two separate pressures that resulted in the violation of longstanding practice and law.”"
speaking of oversight…. i’m really looking forward to some of the congressional hearings tomorrow… especially this one:
2:30 pm – Senate Intelligence
To hold hearings to examine the nomination of John A. Rizzo, of the District of Columbia, to be General Counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency. [background: here, here, here, and here].
newsweek:
KayInMaine @ 20
oddmommy @ 23,
I’m reading a book right now, a mystery, that concerns a fictional president.
His aides said they had to save cocktail napkins if he scribbled notes pertinent to the job on them.
They were ‘work products’ and as such, fell under that Act.
Great post, PW!
Odd as it may sound, this seems to be one case where garbage, exposed to sunlight, smells– well, if not sweet, at least exhilarating!
Bob in HI
Isn’t it a nice change from the last six years?
Perris:
There’s a limit to what they can do. And they’ve hit it.
I asked this downstairs and I’ll ask it again:
Does the executive order Bush signed giving the president control over presidential records impact at all on the destruction of records?
Can it be used as a Good Faith exception (altho we know it would only be an excuse) claiming that since the EO gives the president control over presidential records s/he can do whatever with them?
Just asking…it seems like that would be an argument these people would advance.
Slothrop @ 27
ThinkProgress: Yoo: Court Rejection Of Bush Detainee Policy Is An Effort ‘To Deny What Happened On 9/11′
Ms. Phoenix, via The Gavel, documents the extensive list of wrong-doing. “General” Leahy continues his slow, methodical march thru this mess.
But as to all these email issues, I don’t think there will be any cooperation at all from the WH. No form of “shaming” by General Leahy will prod these folks. Nor do I really expect any of them to voluntarily come forward under the umbrella of “I want to do what’s right”.
Harsh tho it is, I really think that the only thing these folks will respond to is a pair of handcuffs. I urge General Leahy to immediately try to identify the “easy-pickings” targets. Go full bore after them, as they resist, cause indictments to be handed down, and then we watch “the perp walk”.
Put one or two of those underlings in handcuffs and they’ll start to squeal like a stuck pig.
Ghostman
Eeep! Sorry, Bob — I was trying to reply to your comment and wound up editing it instead!
I really do not have the proper words to convey my shock at all of this.
Hmmm, ok, I am shocked I tell you shocked!
(twiddles thumbs, rocks left foot, then right.
I wonder when the rest of the country will wake up and realize what is going on here.)
Back to lurkerville.
egregious @ 21
Yes he has been good, very good on these issues. Critical issues. ;0)
A great read Phoneix Woman. I guess that’s another blog to put on my list. Why does the Bush administration hate government? I mean, really?
Who would be responsible for actually charging someone if they broke the Presidential records law? Gonzalez?
No wonder Bush is so damned sure he can do as he likes….
We need to impeach Gonzo now.
Renee you still around? that video was great! I liked the little Beatle-like interlude in the middle. Haven’t seen you around these parts for a while. Seems like you’ve been busy and having fun. Good on you.
Phoenix Woman @ 32
great bird of resurrection, I believe we hit the watershed moment but I think it’s something else;
I think we need to do a cut and edit with the pictures of torture that has been condoned by this administration
we need to have the clips telling us the president knew fathers were forced to sodomize their sons and daughters, we need to have clips telling us the president knew parents were forced to watch their children raped
we need to have the clips saying “the administration was given graphic details and not only allowed it, they condoned it, not only condoned it, they encouraged forcing it”
and then we need to point out Prescott bush was a supporter of the sadist fascists under Hitler.
THAT is the watershed moment…THIS is what we need to do, WE ALL NEED TO POST THAT EDIT…we need to link to it on all the Conservative blogs too.
we can turn their base against them, we can and we must
we need an editing expert to put those pictures and those clips together…in rapid fire machine gun edits
that is our watershed
That is a lot of emails.
Karl is circling the drain.
As for the signing statements, it’s about time someone weighed in on those. As far as I can see, they could be what finally gets junior in the end.
“GAO researchers also studied how federal courts view Presidential signing statements. They found that courts rarely rely on them as authoritative interpretations of the law.”
well, they better not! Congress legislates (makes law, including the intent or meaning of the law), the Executive Branch merely executes the law. Of course, in the meantime we’re stuck “executing” the signing statements until someone takes us to court.
It’s one thing to raise a question of constitutionality, it’s quite another to disregard Congressional intent.
Will Bush give Scooter respite?
james @ 33
Call me old fashioned, but Congress passed laws specifically related to the preservation of presidential records.
The president is supposed to execute the laws passed by Congress.
In theory.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
their whurlitser has done it’s job, the majority of Americans are expecting a pardon and will give it a ho hum
we never framed the duscussion the way it needed to be framed, we needed to challenge the patriotism of anyone that asked for a pardon from the man that covered up treason
we can still get that ball rolling but the democrats need someone show them how to frame the discussion…republicans hve this down…democrats need to get with the program
I like this guy Paul Rieckoff.
I want justice.
KO lede is the missing e-mails…
Olbermann is doing the lifting.
I see another Nuremberg trial on the way. It’ll take a few more years. The American media will report it as a fluke.
Dick Cheney ordered the torture of Iraqis without a trial. We don’t even know if they were terrorists. “Just go ahead and torture the lot of them,” — Dick Cheney.
Hoo boy. It’s really ugly.
dakine01 @ 50
more
ot, sorry, tv alert
hi phoenix, great post, was following the links when something came on the tv
lehrer report on pbs tonight showed the numerous ongoing memorial services that are held at ft.lewis in washington…they have 10,000 soldiers in iraq…if i lived there, i would be going to them to pay my respects.
the president and his minions may not let caskets be shown on tv, but they’re finding a way around it. it was an indepth report.
this report brought many thoughts to my mind.
this month, every few days, another memorial service. staff is spread thin to do the services, and they were going to go to once a month, but people objected, so are still going to do them as the dead occur……..
they did an indepth of the nine that were memorialized in the report.
every few days another service……with large pictures up front, with helmets placed high, with empty boots…….with a final roll call, the soldier’s name repeated three times, and noone answering……….
and they showed it on national television. i wish everyone could have seen it.
it’s a start anyway.
sorry about the drive-by, wanted people to know it was on.
David Shuster is dissecting the misisng e-mails with KO
51 of 88 WH staff with RNC accounts are missing the e-mails including mehlman
It’s obvious that the White House crimes were ‘organized’.
Two laws in play Presidential REcords Act and hatch Act
Sara Taylor subponea not only for the firing scandal but the missing e-mails and use by RNC folks. OSC also involved
Not just RNC server but the BushCheney04 server – multi servers but cannot have political considerations on government property…
Slothrop @ 52
hey slothrop –
as a collector of cheney-isms — for fairly
obvious reasons — i’d love it if you could
point me to a source on anything remotely
resembling this quote. . .
even if it is simply short-hand. . .
thanks — nolo
RICO, anyone?
Democrats: Don’t you realize that push has come to shove?
egregious @ 46
You would hope so, no?
But the signing statements info today shows that at least 30% of the federal laws passed by congress weren’t carried out because of Bush’s signing statements.
Those are laws also.
Of course, in a Democratic administration with a Republican congress, this would be article one.
Thanks.
“Scrape” is the little word that pops into my head time and ahead when I read about the ongoing malfeasance in the White House.”
Amen.
There’s enough scandals going on to fill one of those big multiplex theatres at the mall!
The way things are now, without impeachment and conviction, Bush, Dick and Abu ARE all above the law.
Just shorthand, based on the Hersh article.
Elliott @ 61
Right.
When the history of these times is written, hopefully within the next few generations or (God forbid) in hundreds of years, after the coming Dark Age lifts, the historians of the future will deplore our spinelessness and wonder how a great country was raped. They will say how proud they are of the Freedom Fighters — inheritors of the mantle of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and our other Founding Fathers — who at length righted our ship of state.
I’m from Boston. Anyone got some tea?
=====
I’m real happy that several ‘Pups are taking part by now. I hope to “see” you there too. There’s even a ‘PupPoll where you can quickly (and anonymously) cast your vote about possible future FDL formats.
I’ll be repeating this invitation in later comments.
Slothrop @ 65
thanks! perfect — after
making a video all day, seymor
is the next thing on my to-do-
reading, tonight — much appreciated!
dakine01 @ 57
Again, where does Rove’s legitimate role end and the role he plays as chief instigator of Hatch Act violations begin?
Can he really be doing anything policy-wise except engineering political dirty tricks and outright crimes?
Oh yes, I do!
I love what Howard Fineman said on Olbermann. The courts are where the Bush presidency began and that’s where it’s going to end.
Oh RICO you’re so fine
you’re so fine
you blow my mind
Hey RICO…
What I want to know is whether they took a hammer to the hard drives. If not, info is still there and recoverable. If hard drives were destroyed, there should be hell to pay by anyone who did the dasterdly deed.
Confession. I am in no way a “techie”, but in order to destroy evidence on computers so that it is unrecoverable always meant to me to hammer the hard drives into oblivion.
Otherwise, someone should enlighten me.
These people are beyond disgusting. They are just like 2nd grade bullies. And they need to be treated as such. Forceably removed to “time out”, the World Court War Crimes Tribunal.
Eureka Springs @ 71
Me too, Earl Grey Decaf and Mango flavored green tea. The combination makes great ice tea but I’d be willing to donate it for the cause.
Eureka Springs @ 71
Are we talking tea or rebellion? I like both.
I’ve got moccasins & war paint
Gawd I’m sick of Obama, Hillary and Paris.
Sure would like to see Cillizza writing about how the buck stops with AGAG over the problems with Justice even if he won’t point the arrow directly at its source in the WH.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
Hmmm, seems to me someone else may have made mention of that here a few days/threads back…something about what justice hath wrought…
Boston Tea Party
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
so does this mean that there is nothing that can be done…screw the subpoenas?
Sixty Something @ 74
According to experts here at FDL on a previous thread, sitting a 5-lb speaker magnet on top of them is very effective (and quieter).
Sixty Something @ 73
A hard re-format should erase data, using “Partition Magic” or “System Rescue” type programs. Also make new partitions and install some other OS such as LINUX. I have heard that exposing the hard drive to a very strong magnet can clobber data.
I am sure that there are specialized programs that can set every bit to zero.
snowbird42 @ 83
I think that was the bottom line when Fineman, on Olbermann, a few ago, said the Bush Administration would laugh at the subpoenas. ;0)
Phoenix, Your comments and links are great and I thank you. I used to receive e-mails from my congressman (Tom Price) and Senators Chambliss and Isacson} but I stopped because of the crap they send out. It’s time to sign up again and hold them accountable.
Mutant Poodle @ 84
What about Blackberry, aren’t they in Canada? Any hope of retrieval from there?
Rabbits on the runway in Milan…every time I fly in and out of Milan on my way to Romania we’re delayed by strikes of one sort or another.
Just another benefit of flying Al Italia.
At least there’s a vibrant working class over there.
snowbird42 says
June 18th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
so does this mean that there is nothing that can be done…screw the subpoenas?
nope. it means that subpoenas must be issued – as many as possible, in fact. Those subpoenas will then be ignored, and the contempt cases will be litigated to the bitter end. And that end will most likely be bitter indeed, given the current make-up of the US S.Ct. (unless it happens to be a day on which Justice Kennedy is actually awake).
we suffer from vexation without representation
Oklahoma kiddo @ 86
There has been some talk on the net about “inherent contempt”, which allows Congress to send their sergeant-at-arms to arrest the person in question and imprison them. Not sure exactly how this would work. Perhaps the lawyers in the Lake could enlighten us about this.
Problem is. Once the Bush guys are gone, nobody is going to care.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule I don’t have time to look up my instructions on how to link nicely, but read this.
AP is on the story of the missing e-mails
snowbird42 @ 83
what it means, imho, izzat the Busheviks are baiting the Dems into a constitutional crisis which they know the Opus Deists will resolve in favor of the authoritarian, unitary presidency…
Has anyone else poked Al Gore on face book? I did and asked to be his friend… no reply yet. I wonder if I am now under surveillance.
(perhaps Al is just busy or doesn’t remember me… Giovanni Eureka Springs AR *s*)
yellowdogD @ 29
I see. Hiding prison abuse (and the fact that he still has a desk at the Pentagon) is numero uno for Chris Matthews, because ole Chrissy couldn’t bang his pompoms together hard enough in the run up to Bush, Cheney, and Rummy’s illegal occupation of Iraq, so hiding the hideous & illegal consequences of this occupation is a natural move by him. *rolling eyes at him* On any given day, Matthews will love & hate a democrat within the same sentence. He really makes my skin crawl now. I only watch Olbermann in the evenings now and then switch to home improvement shows (or C-SPAN hearing reruns!) to ease my mind. ;-)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 79
du bist nicht alein, freund…
I wonder how many of those Rove/RNC/Ken Blackwell emails that are missing contain the evidence of voter caging? Huh. I bet quite a bit. Hopefully we’ll find out at some point, though, I do envision a stand-off with real guns pointing out through the front doors of the White House & the RNC headquarters.
In the past few days AGAG has:
1) appointed an interim (A)USA before the new law taking away that power went into effect and
2) set up a formal mechanism for political review of USA’s activities.
These strike me as not the acts of a person walking on eggs: he feels that he has gotten through it all, free and clear, doesn’t he?
It does my heart good to hear the hearsay that Leahy and Conyers think that they can bring him up short anytime they want (see dakine01 AT 11), but AGAG seems to be frolicking, perfectly certain that nobody is going to touch him.
Who’s right: Leahy/Conyers or AGAG?
Mutant Poodle @ 84
Sixty Something @ 74
According to experts here at FDL on a previous thread, sitting a 5-lb speaker magnet on top of them is very effective (and quieter).
Consumer-grade bulk erasers generally aren’t very thorough, and even the ones the military uses aren’t trusted — DoD insists that both magnets and total physical destruction (i.e., literally grinding the sucker to a fine powder) be used.
However, last year a new portable magnetic eraser was developed that may well be on the market soon, at least for industrial and military use. It’s called Guard Dog and it’s essentially a 125-lb. magnet that’s hand-cranked into position (electricity interferes with the erasing) and does its thing within seconds. Disks are wiped totally.
So many links, so little time:
Scott Harper On The Emails Trail!
Rovette Susan Ralston’s Fishing Expedition For Immunity In Exchange For Throwing Rove Under The Bus–EmptyWheel!
Novak Advocates Throwing Abu Gonz Under The Bus To Save Libby!
Deepak Chopra Points Out Why Science Can’t Ignore The Mind Any Longer
Dick Blows Pakistan! (Brain Bleach Available In Aisle Two!)
Will send more when I can.
And, please please PLEASE don’t assume I know anything more than industry gossip on the servers thing. The only people who gossip more than IT professionals are….your profession’s professionals! :>
Oh, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for letting us know about this! I’ll be checking there daily, at least to look at the “correcting the record” area to counteract the constant drumbeat of Republican spin points I am subjected to daily at work. What a resource!!!
Here’s some info on “inherent contempt”
link
and a little something from emptywheel from back in March
2nd link
behindthefall @ 99
Wish I could take credit for the analysis at #11 but that is from Alfred Kelgarries last night…I just brought it forward from EPU land.
Eureka Springs @ 96
I got him a few days ago. And so far I haven’t seen any suspicious vans around my house ;-)
“Republicans said there is no evidence that the law was violated or that the missing e-mails were of a government rather than political nature.” From the Washington Post AP article.. Well if they are missing how the f would they know….
behindthefall @ 100
I don’t think he’s frolicking. In any event, with this news, Leahy/Conyers don’t need him to get at Rove. Remember, they’re also looking at Rove for those Hatch Act violations (aka the PowerPoints, among other things).
Rove’s protected Gonzo up to this point because Gonzo’s Rove’s firewall: If he goes, the game’s up for both Rove AND Bush. But Conyers and Waxman are getting enough other stuff that they don’t need Gonzo’s scalp — not unless Rove offers it to them in exchange for his own freedom (and it may come to that).
Eureka Springs @ 96
Ahh Grasshopper, surely all that is needed is patience, why wouldn’t he want to be your friend?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
Fineman blows with the prevailing wind, doesn’t he?
(For relevant part of the link, scroll half way down.)
Alfred Kelgarries @ 102
Here’s the Palast link indicating just how much Greg has on Rove and company.
[Mod Note; the moderation filters really don’t like it when you put this many links in a comment. It might be wise to limit links to 3 or 4 per comment. Thanks]
KayInMaine @ 97
RUSMFELD STILL HAS A DESK AT THE PENTAGON?
that’s got to be illegal.
Phoenix Woman @ 107
Even if Rove does give up Gonzo, it won’t stop the inexorable march to get him as well. They’re both criminals and need to be frog marched outta the WH in a broad daylight, high noon perp walk
dakine01 @ 105
I must again remind everyone that my data is gossip, although to me it is a reliable source. It you look at some of the links I’ve posted today, I think you’ll find that more and more pieces of the puzzle are falling into place the way the gossippers thought they might…
Ah, I think I got spam-filtered.
Here’s the latest post on the rove emails from gp.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 112
Gossip it may be, but when there are credible actions that seem to confirm, then the credibility rises accordingly, i.e., there are significant differences between WAGs and SWAGs.
Elliott @ 111
McNamara had a desk at the pentagon till the day he died. I suspect this is true for many SOD’s. (ooh what a pretty acronym. And so accurate as Rummie’s treatment of Taguba demonstrated.)
Isn’t it time for the Texas Bar Association to take a peek at Mr. Gonzales’ behavior? Comparable derelictions from a district attorney in Houston or Dallas would surely merit censure, suspension or disbarment.
Sean Insanity WPITW for complaining about how Repubs were asked questions that Dems weren’t during the debates. Even though the Dems were asked the questions (on reading the National Defnese Intel Briefing on Iraq prior to voting)
Stephen Griles silver for asking for probation instead of jail and to serve his community service with a lobbying firm he did business with as Dep Sec Interior.
dakine01 @ 115
In our shop back in the good old days, we used to lean toward Scientific Wild Half-A** Guesses (SWHAG)….
dakine01 @ 118
you’re making that up.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 118
I always figured the WAG is I have no ef’fin’ idea in hell while with the SWAG I at least have some level of suportable logic associated…
there is not a chinchilla of skepticism in Tweety’s rapt, teutonic gaze…
The only bar that Gonzales should be associated with are gray, steel bars.
Bush will gladly sacrifice the entire nation for his own vanity. And he’s doing it step by step step.
-GSD
earlofhuntingdon @ 117
Isn’t it time for the Texas Bar Association to take a peek at Mr. Gonzales’ behavior? Comparable derelictions from a district attorney in Houston or Dallas would surely merit censure, suspension or disbarment.
okay, don’t bother me for a few minutes. I’m busy enjoying the mental images and ramifications of the disbarment of the USAG.
Aaahhhh….
Elliott @ 119
This is from TheNextHurrah that Marcy did yesterday, but I have seen it even on the WaPo0.
That WPITW for Griles aint no joke.
The scum also rises.
-GSD
Oklahoma kiddo @ 72
The only problem is that over the last 26 years,
there has been a massive
takemakeover of the Federal judiciary.earlofhuntingdon @ 117
They got Nifong for really minor stuff like false arrest, maliscious prosecution and making his city look like it was run by bigoted idiots. So Abu ought to be vulnerable in Tejas…
(Personally, I favor the Poop Avalanche Theory. It goes like this: some people work their way to the top by being competent, fortunate, and helpful to everyone around them. Others get there by kicking the poop out of those in their way, above and below. In this second case, due to the laws of conservation of matter and energy, the poop doth not disappear but enters into a temporally ambiguous state. If the person practicing the second type of career advancement stumbles and falls, then said ambiguous poop all reappears at once and sweeps them back to the bottom in a “poop avalanche” that is necessary to maintain the balance of nature.
Shorter AK: Don’t kick any bottoms on the way up you may need to kiss on the way down.
When Abu loses his job in washington, disbarring him in texas will come along inexorably, as a cherry on top of the retribution sundae.)
Keep it out of the courts!!
Impeach, indict, convict the torturers!! Stop them from bombing Iran and Syria. They need to go, now! I think we’re getting close.
dakine01 @ 126
lordAmighty, you can’t make this stuff up.
allan_in_upstate @ 128
Because they knew they could only pull it off for so long and in the end they’d need complacent judges.
And the people in this country don’t have a clue.
If this gets posted twice, I apologize; the Wheel of Doom just keeps going ’round and ’round.
Phoenix Woman AT 108: AGAG’s behavior to me resembles that of a young tough prancing around on the grass outside a castle, mocking the residents who have managed to interfere with each other so that none of the heavy objects they have launched in said tough’s direction have landed on top of him.
Conversely, AGAG’s the French fellow on the battlements in “The Holy Grail” exposing his posterior to King Arthur.
He thinks that all the politicization of DoJ is now OK; Congress has taken its best shots and he’s still there. Brazen taunts are his style, now: see items 1 & 2.
I really want to see that guy gone …
Alfred Kelgarries @ 129
Or as Lowell George sang:
“Those people you abused on the way up
Ya might meet up, on the w-a-a-y d-o-o-ow-wn”
PW is upstairs with more good stuff
FYI, new thread
Prescott Bush supported the Nazis, the same Nazis American soldiers died to save the world from, the same Nazis that tortured and murdered 11,000,000 people.
BTW. Valerie Plame was a COVERT CIA agent working on non-proliferation of WMD’s, and Prescott Bush’s grandson’s administration exposed her and the front company she worked for. Just in case anyone hadn’t heard that….
Thanks, LL and ES!
Emails: Most of chance of finding stuff is on the servers. A bunch of these folks used blackberries, and Blackberry, especially during this time period meant Microsoft Exchange or Lotus Notes. (There’s something called a BES Blackberry Exchange Server)
Never overlook what executive support admins will do to make sure their obnoxious clientele don’t lose mail. There’s often the local replication of mail which lives locally (in a pst file for Outlook) and then server backups (data backups as well as server based mailbackups: Iron Mountain among others).
The thing about local files, and degauss etc, is that it is a lot more meaningful when each unit is a separate file. That isn’t the case with Outlook and other email clients, they use a proprietary database type format which could be nigh to impossible to reconstruct even if you get back the bits on the disk.
One other thing to look for locally on machines; a program called Ghost Explorer. When one gets a new machine, the data gets moved, and admins who do this in bulk use Ghost or something like it. Ghost explorer is the program that lets one look inside the ghost image of the old machine, if it was copied to the new (generally is). If you see a little casper the ghost on the desktop, with what looks like a magnifying glass under his sheet, you have ghost explorer.
Bottom line, the support process creates lots of copies.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 117
I swear it’s true. The comment was made in an article (Washington Post? New York Times? Can’t remember) online saying that Rummy still has a desk at the Pentagon and a staff of 6. I linked to it in a previous post on my blog awhile back and it’s now been “timed-out” and does not exist. I cannot find it online either using the search words “Rumsfeld desk Pentagon”.
Weird huh? A 2007 Orwellian technique? I think so.
RickG @ 139
Waxman and Conyers have both been advised of the Blackberry angle. RIM’s servers located in Canada would have at a minimum a log of emails sent since the PDA/phone devices send messages to RIM servers first before they are sent to subject’s email server. I don’t believe that RIM keeps a copy, but a log would certainly show the volume, size and senders/recipients for mail sent via Blackberry.
And Waxman and Conyers were advised about 3 months ago about this angle.
Frank33 @ 85
And all of these would destroy OTHER data…and one would have to destroy not only nthe computers of the recipient and sender…but all the intermediate servers.
Bit hard. And such “attacks” would be rather difficult to explain…and there should be a record of the hard-drive “failing” – complaints by the user would be de rigeur. People are not happy when everything on their drive disappears and they generally ask techs to RECOVER the data. I’d have exzpected that in any business that used emails which had such widespread erasures that were unrecoverable that the staff would be screaming about the useless system.
So why didn’t the WH and RNC have a huge body of complaints about this lost data unless the deletions were intentional and systematic???
Why did they only “discover” the losses when the Congress started asking about them?
And why are some emails there, and others not?
So maybe Dana has huge hands and plays the piano – 88 fingers for 88 keys.
Yeah, I know – I’m sending this in a day too late when no one is reading this thread any more.
I think if Roveco had known how difficult it is to really and truly destroy an e-mail they’d have sent all their messages by carrier pigeon.
Cheney, of course, would have no trouble getting rid of that evidence.
allan_in_upstate @ 22
No, they just know that an impeachment would be blocked by Republicans, so they’re not gonna waste their time on that — just mashing Republicans by showing the public every little dirty criminal immoral act. Next up…Abu Graib, again!
…He’s an ignorant
treasonous bastardlout who knows nothing about constitutional law and cares less.