The Carpetbagger wants to know:
* Rudy Giuliani — Matt Taibbi recently made the case that the former NYC mayor is actually “worse than Bush.” Giuliani is autocratic, thin-skinned, and self-absorbed. He’s inexperienced, ignorant about policy specifics, and his only selling point (performance on 9/11) doesn’t stand up well to scrutiny. His campaign is built around demagoguery — driven solely by fear.
* John McCain — A shadow of his former self, the senator appears to be a man who’ll do anything to win. McCain is combative and intolerant of dissent. He defends the indefensible and lashes out angrily at anyone who dares to disagree with him. He’s become dishonest, condescending, and egotistical, while pandering shamelessly to some of the worst elements in Republican politics.
* Mitt Romney — The man appears to have no real convictions at all. On most of the major political issues of the day, Romney believed the exact opposite fairly recently, and has struggled to explain his metamorphosis from moderate governor to far-right candidate.
* Fred Thompson — The actor/lobbyist/senator doesn’t seem to have any real rationale for seeking the presidency, other than the belief he might win. Thompson is at least as phony as Romney — the red truck story should be humiliating to him — and developed a Bush-like reputation for being lazy and incurious. He considers moving to northern Virginia “getting out of Washington” and his most valuable skill seems to be his ability to pretend to be someone else.
Tancredo might indeed be the scariest but the institutional GOP probably hates him just about as much as the left does these days so it’s not really much of a threat. Personally I find “Double Gitmo” Romney’s willingness to turn himself into some morally blighted cartoon soundbite the scariest, because he actually does have that lantern jawed presence that makes him an appropriate front man for the hermetically sealed right wing parallel universe.
And yes, Rudy might actually be “worse than Bush.”
So who’s your nominee and why?



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Ron Paul! He gets the nets!
Each is terrifying in his own way.
The Repbulican party has been so hollowed out by the triumph of politics over policy that you’re left with these husks of candidates.
ZED
I’m waiting on Gore.
Rudy, definitely. Though with Thompson and Romney working to cut into his support, he’s not as scary as he was.
Frankly, the only guy I fear is Chuck Hagel, and he has no chance because even though he’s as right-wing as they come, the base hates him because he’s dared lip off to Bush a few times.
I think that any one of the dems in the current field can wipe the floor with any of the repubs.
Rudy’s the one who scares me the most.
But all the Republican candidates scare me.
Bob in HI
TexB @ 6
So do I but it’s going to get really ugly.
I fear Fred Thompson because he is an actor. There are still folks out there who believe that Reagan was good for america!! I just won’t be able to sleep until the links between Iran Contra and the Iraq war are finally out. The only way I see that happening is war crime trials or impeachment. But americans need to understand this link and how totally corrupt it is and how not prosecuting them back then hurts our democracy today.
I am afraid of good actors.
Rudy — forget it. The social conservatives and fundies hate him. His 9/11 glow will fade very rapidly under the assault of real stories about what a crud he was before and after. And Kerik’s mob ties which will lead back to rudy will finish the job.
McCain is a joke. And institutionalizable at that. If he got the nomination, he’d lose it on a debate or have the ultimate “macaca moment”. no way.
Romney Is A Mormon (RIAM). Fundies hate Catholics and Mormons and Jews not living in Palestine. His blue state ties are too obvious also. No chance in the general.
Thompson is the dangerous one. Cheney’s people and some of Chimpy’s are moving to him. Hie has the Reagan Actor Mantle (TM,SM) but is a total phony and has a trophy wife. Also, he looks like Vlad The Impaler when you see him without his makeup. Yeeeccccchhhhhh! Fundies may tolerate him, social and money conservatives will accept him. BUT, he’s tied to iraq now and that’s the anchor around his neck. Plus rumor has it in the demimonde where the spook lives that Thompson’s reluctance to dive it is based solely on a deep, dark secret he’s had for many years, well known in hollywood, that if it were to come up once he announces would end his presidential run in no time, as well as killing any thoughts of a remaining acting career. Time will tell.
katie Jensen @ 9
I am afraid only of the handlers in the democratic party.
If you include Tancredo… got to include the wrath of Hunter, imo.
These choiices are like a coin toss with Abu Graib on one side and Gitmo on the other.
Bob Schacht @ 7
I agree all the way. Rudy would be worse than Bush on a bad day. Martial Law would be a reality and it wouldn’t take long. Imagine all his buddies walking in & out of the white house?? Oh, boy.
oh.. I don’t know. With this gang of miscreants, why stop at most dangerous? (I agree on Rudy there).
Most corrupt: Duncan Hunter
Most evil: Tom Tancredo
Most insubstantial: Fred Thompson
Most hypocritical: John McCain
Most sanctimonious: Sam Brownback
Most swarmy: Mitt Romney
Most anti-semitic: Tommy Thompson/Mike Huckabee (tie)
Most irrelevant: Jim Gilmore
Of course, all of these adjective can be applied to any of the foregoing candidates.. just a question of degree.
Bob Schacht @ 7
I’m with you on that, Bob! Ghouliani is the scariest of the bunch, with Freddy nipping at his heels!!! Aloha, Y’all!!!
I would say that the institutional GOP hates Tancredo because he’s one of the prime pushers of immigration/hate/build a fence and send ‘em all back to Mexico.
Rudy scares due to his authoritarian nature, inability to withstand ANY type of dissent and the fact that he does have some semblance of a brain. However I do have faith in his ability to implode at some point in the next six months to a year. He WILL go crazy over something minor and ALL the world will see what NYers and those living and working near there saw in the 90s.
McCain is nuckin’ futz.
Romney is too pretty with too many journos showing their man-crushes (shoulders broad enough to land a 747 anyone?). He has flip-flopped and flew beyond any saving point.
Fred is lazy. He has a half a brain and can play a role better than some of the others but with some goo ddigigng by dedicated people, he can be brought down. But he is the most likely to get the nomination and COULD be coached well enough to make a strong run and even win. AND he scares due to his support of Libby and refusal to recognize the laws as written and demands for a pardon.
Fred Thompson cause he looks like Droopy Dog of cartoon fame and can attractive the younger voters.
I don’t think republicans need intelligent front men. Ahem. Shall we begin a list. It’s all about great face. Records can be cleaned and bad history ’splained a way.
Hagel…interesting. He could be scary but nebraskans don’t like him…God forbid he spoke out against authoriteh…I don’t think he’ll make it but if repugs were smart…and thought like us, but they don’t.
D) All of the above
Mike Huckabee scares me because he thinks mini skirts show too much of female private parts. I thought that the Repugs didn’t believe in the right to privacy.
Twain @ 8
Unless one of them would be more likely to decide unilaterally to launch a war (Bush needed to lie to the public to launch on Iraq) they’re all pretty much the same–VERY SCARY. Any of them would use the same scum back-ups we’ve had to live with under Nixon, Reagan, and two Bushes.
As much as Hillary is only my 5th or 5th choice, she may be the most SwiftBoat-proof of our possibilities. The MSM and the Rovists have been working her over for 15 years and there’s nothing left for them to get traction with. Gore is almost as safe (and would be a far better candidate and President, IMVHO.) But the others would be worked over like a tough cut of meat. The republicans and their water carriers would create dirt like vacuum cleaner salesman. So I’m not sure it matters which of the potential republican nominees is the scariest.
Their party really is the party of schoolyard bullies, right?
I think there are two different questions.
1) Who is the scariest as a campaign opponent?
2) Who is scariest to ponder as president?
AlexandriaCynic @ 21
Even though they’ve raked both Hillary and Gore over the coals and we know there’s nothing left, it won’t stop them from:
A) Bringing up everything already discredited and repeating the lies all over again (just like the continual no underlying crime meme) AND
B) Inventing a whole new patchwork of lies to smear them with. Hell, the truth has never stopped these a**hats before in any way shape or form.
OT
Chicago Tribune
“Atty Gen. Alberto Gonzales so far has survived a political crisis over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, a rare potential vote of no-confidence in the Senate and numerous calls for his resignation.
His response? Gonzales recently proposed tightening the leash on the men and women who prosecute federal crimes across the nation.
Gonzales described what he delicately calls “a more vigorous and a little bit more formal process” for annually evaluating prosecutors. What that means, as he explained it, is hauling in every U.S. attorney for a meeting to hear, among other things, politicians’ beefs against the prosecutor.
If that should happen, expect the fair-mindedness and independence Americans still count on from their Justice Department to slip.”
Rudy is the scariest. I pick Ron Paul. Some say he is a bigot but an antiwar bigot so I’ll vote for him.
Rudy. He’s Cheney & Bush in one package, with mafia ties.
My Mass. friends all despise Romney, but not as much as my NY friends despise Rudy.
TexB @ 23
For 1) I would say Thompson. After all, he is a professional actor.
For 2) I would say Ghouliani, because of his mob ties and his imperialism.
But I still can’t bring myself to believe any of these losers can win against any of the probable dem nominees unles the election is totally rigged, which is unfortunately a possibility…
Well, I have to keep saying this lest we forget. This election, like 2000, and 2004 will not be about popularity or votes. It’s about power. Power will be measured by who wins, and that doesn’t mean votes. Please don’t forget this. Voting is essential, but it’s going to take more than that and we may end up having to defend our country in ways we never imagined. It will be very interesting, but we cannot go back to sleep and pretend that the elections were sound. The attorney general scandal, the hbo special on electronic voting, the stacked supreme court. This is going to be a long battle for power and those who have it will not easily give it up.
I fear that we will have a security issue that puts Bush in power through the elections. Look at what is happening in the middle east.
I agree that Rudy is worse than Bush. He hates Muslims and pretty much says so.
I am most scared of Rudy as President, but I am even more scared of Fred as the GOP nominee. Does that make sense?
I’m pretty sure Rudy couldn’t make it in a general election, but if he squeaked through, we’re done for. The Republic is, simply, doomed and irrecoverable. But he’s likely to implode and is therefore beatable.
Fred, though, should he win the nomination, will be all StRonnie’d up by TradMed and the powers-that-be. He’s the most electable by far. I do not believe America can survive another lazy and incurious President; we will lose the occupation, the War, and the Peace.
Help – my sister just visited NY and the taxicab drivers all said it was because of Rudy that the city was so clean and well-kept. They adore him – what’s up with that??? Did he give taxi drivers special perks? And because of that experience she is right on board with Rudy (she’s not very political – except that she truly believes that liberalism is the spawn of the devil. urrrggh.
Call me nontraditional, but I think that Huckabee may be the worst of the lot. His sanctimony seems to be authentic and he doesn’t mind releasing convicted rapists on a political whim. You think CokeBoy McDryDrunk is bad? Imagine a preacher-turned-politician without the good sense to realize that releasing a rapist could have negative results.
Sanctimonious, boring, petty with a lack of foresight: the GOP does grow their monsters stout.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 28
Exactly!
The GOP base is fractured – they’ll stay home in droves. Independents are almost as sick of the GOP as the Dems are. The only threat is that Congress doesn’t get enough of the string pulling cheaters out of office. (Well, the other danger is that we get a DLC candidate; they’d be better than what we’ve got, but they’d keep right on doing the same damn things.)
Of the candidates listed above, Fred Thompson scares me most. Loyal Republicans who wouldn’t vote Democratic if their life depended on it are looking to him as their savior. He can and will act the part and the good ole USA will once again get the shaft.
The one running who really scares the @#$% out of me is Brownback. Should he gain steam as a candidate, watch out this man is totally insane. Hopefully he doesn’t have charisma.
Huckabee has an underwear problem so he’s scary in an icky way, Rudy is scary in authoritarian way, but the scariest is Thompson because the GOP would turn out to vote. The GOP loves those Hollywood types.
Sixty Something @ 35
They are all insane. Including Ron Paul.
JPL @ 36
Boxers or briefs?
N=1 @ 19
Where’s my lead pencil…
Rudy. He’s a real bastard.
Rudy is the scariest. He is a smarter, more socio-pathic Bush.
GordonM @ 34
Tell me about it. :( But perhaps not in the same areas? If we get a DLC winner, we just have to hold their feet to the fire. In the long run, we have to get netroots-friendly, non-DLC dems in congress, enough to swing legislative power. then we can start making some progress.
We need somebody here to go study up on the way the progressives took over the dem party back around the turn of the 20th century. Those may have to become the bible of our techniques. I’d do it but my granddaughter is making me work for a living…
Ozymandias @ 41
Does he have a Rove with him?
The November 2008 voter will be in a different world when the dust settles at 1600 P. The opportunity for a woman to govern the American people will result directly from Pelosi’s ability to lead the political fight against BusChen.
The republicans will have time to think about how a woman might balance their own ticket in a way that is appealing to conservatives and hopefully other low information voters, too.
Which woman might grace a republican ticket as a VP? A Buffy type to slay the vampire we have now. Liddy? Kay? BO?
VP BO DEREK?
Thompson/Derek… too Hollywood for conservatives? OK then McCain/Dole! (The last ones standing after the rest have shot their wads.)
Ron Paul is also a scary nominee, altho he could only get the nomination if there was a revolution in the GOP. As someone on a blog somewhere wrote recently, “There’s ten pro-war candidates in the GOP and only one anti-war: Ron Paul. So if you’re a conservative who’s soured on the war or who never liked the war in the first place, Ron Paul’s your man.” So it’s the Buchananites. Incidentally, has Uncle Pat declared a preference yet?
Ron Paul’s also on fire on the internets.
He’s a loon, but by next year the entire country will be hating Bush’s war, so as the GOP nominee Ron Paul could give anti-war independents who hate Hill a place to go.
TexB @ 43
Kerik.
No, just kidding.
Are we sure the real Rove won’t volunteer his services for Rudy should he get the nomination?
McCain/Lieberman on a third party ticket (Americans for Liberman?).
The downside would be that, as “centrists”, they would get a free pass from the MSM.
The upside would be that it might finish off Broder, from terminal priapism.
Thompson. Because he could win.
allan_in_upstate @ 47
Oh that one’s scary.
Blub @ 46
Rove is a BushCo house slave. He cannot leave. He has sent his trained minions to work only with Thompson. That’s a clue.
I don’t think it matters if Fred Thompson can act like DeNiro, he’s still a Gambino Republican and he can’t run from that. They have fucked everything up for the last 7 years and people won’t forget it just because some swingin’ dick from “Law & Order” is running.
TexB @ 49
BRAIN BLEACH STAT!!!
allan_in_upstate @ 47
The ‘war forever’ ticket
Twisted Martini @ 51
We need to always refer to him as a corporate lobbyist and never as an actor.
My hatred for McCain/Lieberman knows no bounds.
A corporate lobbyist who sold out to television.
Mary McCurnin @ 56
A corporate lobbyist acting like a human being.
Qute frankly, they are all the scariest except for Ron Paul. I agree with a comment above which makes him the scariest.
The thing is why would anyone vote for any of them. They all lie.
Dennis
What scares me more than Rudy is if he will also pick Cheney to be his running mate?
ccmask @ 59
Then he will lose.
allan_in_upstate @ a seriou47
Wow. That’s almost worth considering.
ccmask @ 59
BLEACH Please!
Dennis Eros @ 58
Unfortunately so do our guys. Obama is beginning to seriously worry me with all this inept trashing of Hillary. As someone said in ancient egypt, “if your going to go on the other side of accepted ethics in politics, you have to be good enough not to get caught.” After which the recipient of this little speech was probably thrown to the asps. The victim in our time is handed over to the MSM, which is probably worse from their standpoint.
I just finished watching the new series Lttle Bush with my son. Cheney was reallly unbelievable in it.
TexB @ 62
here take mine. gahhhhhhhh
ccmask @ 64
is that good or bad?
skigurl @ 32
Did she try to get a cabbie to take her to 137th and Lenox?
Sorry for the visual wrt Cheney on the Rudy ticket. I can’t poosibly even wonder who it would be.
Rudy’s the scariest.
But here’s my real fear. I’ve always thought that 10 yrs ago, the wealthiest Americans went looking for someone to carry out there agenda. Someone who agreed with their way of thinking. And most importantly, someone who was electable. They found Bush. I even think they told him not to worry about governing. Just get elected and they’d do the rest.
Now, I think they’ve done the same thing for the next election. Forget ability, intelligence, curiousity, wisdom, foresight. None of that matters. Just electability. And that man is Thompson.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 66
Well, let’s just say that Cheney ripped the head of of three birds during the 30 minutes, and drank their blood and ate them whole.
ccmask @ 59
Cheney has lower popularity than chimpy OR congress. Why would Ghouliani do that? Also, at the moment Cheney appears to be sending the few remaining staffers he has who aren’t awaiting orders to self-surrender and accept incarceration to work with Thompson.
solai @ 69
Isn’t that CEO Mitt?
ccmask @ 59
Ok, that’s the scariest thing I’ve read in a while.
Oh, and Cheney & Barbara got it on so bad that Cheney was then inside her. She called in Bush Sr and showed him by using a sonagram. Next thing you know, they were ar an abortion clinic to get Cheney removed….
If you think they’re all scary now, it’s only going to get worse. Right now they are all competing to see who can pander more to the 29% dead enders who still support Bush (except for that immigration thing.) Each and every one of them is going to try to outmacho the others. You know, these guys are all starting to make Ronald Reagan look like a moderate!
Which is the reason it’s going to get even weirder. Once one of these guys gets a lock on the nomination (meaning the GOP establishment picks their front boy), watch the survivor then do everything he can to move away from all of this towards the center. (And, watch the MSM let them get away with it.)
Here’s the deal: everybody on the Democratic side had better be stockpiling their speeches, sound bites and video now, to use against them when they try to make nice for the rest of the country. You know damn well the media won’t.
They’ll still be chattering about Breck Girl Edwards haircuts, Clinton’s efforts to prove she’s not an emasculating bitch, and the magical charm of Barak Obama. And Joe Lieberman will be moaning they’re all too left-wing extreme for America.
ccmask @ 70
Gee thanks. I was just about to sit down to dinner. Chicken cordon bleu. I think I’ll have salad now…
Is this thing being marketed as a KIDS show for ghodssake? Seems a bit raw, but then I actually LISTEN to rap lyrics (when possible) and they are admittedly worse…
TheOtherWA @ 73
ccmask @ 74
Did the guys who do South Park have anything to do with this marvelous atrocity? And how in CHAOS did they get it past the censors???????
Little Bush clips here.
ccmask @ 79
NOT until I finish my (new) dinner, thenk you veddy much. (I swear, you leave comedy central alone for ONE MINUTE, and you come back and…)
They all scare me. They’re nothing but a bunch of jackboot licking reich wing wackos. I don’t even trust Ron Paul, though, I like some of what he says. His past isn’t pure, white, and good though. He’s very republican even though he is dead set against what Bush & Cheney are doing.
Lieberman said yesterday on Hannity’s America that he would decide after the nominees are chosen who he’ll support. I don’t think there’s any question that he’ll support the GOP nominee. He spoke well of all of them, and smack about the Dems.
Not Al, though. Gore might be the only nominee who could shut Joe up during the general.
ccmask @ 70
Now MY son is going to be sorry that he missed it!
You knew it was coming but it was sickening to actually hear — on “Newsweek On Air” this morning, they proclaimed that Fred Thompson has passed the “beer test.” You know, he’s the guy you’d like to have a beer with.
But completely apart from that:
There’s a rumor going around that “Jeri” Thompson used to be “Jerry”. I’m sure there’s no truth to that.
I got a phone call be back.
TeddySanFran @ 82
He’s getting ready to raise money for Susan Collins. Spit. He’s such a traitor to all of us and our country. I don’t even like saying his name aloud. When I do, I feel a vein pop on my forehead.
Twain @ 77
I can think of better jobs for darth.. one’s he’d really thrive at:
Emir of Dubai (now that Halliburton is moving there)
Chief political advisor and image consultant to Vladimir Putin
Head of a right-wing think-tank.. in a neo-fascist Communist China
Blub @ 87
Inmate????
This guy is pretty scary.
The helicopters are a coming!
-GSD
David Robinson @ 84
There is supposed to be a DealBreaker scandal on ice about Freddie T. hanging around la la land. His supposed reluctance to announce is supposedly based on his handlers getting the thing nailed down so that if it breaks they can contain it. If they say they can’t, he won’t run. Mind you, this is all “nacht und nebel” (night and fog) so take it only as rumor at this point…
Alfred Kelgarries @ 90
Maybe he’s the sperm donor of Mary Cheney’s baby? Hey, that would take a lot of time to get THAT story straight! LOL Yikes. Ewwwwww.
KayInMaine @ 91
Hello, Dow Chemical? Can you please deliver a full tanker-load of brain bleach to FDL, stat? Put it on my card, that way I get miles, ok? Oh, and include a sprayer hose and nozzle, thanks.
So many candidates, so hard to choose. They’re all scary in their own, unique way.
Sorry to go OT, but it seems Olberman got let into the Mets clubhouse Fri night, so Billo tried to do the same today and got tossed out!.
Hurt much, Falafel-boy?
McCain because I see a Lieberman close in on his heels, and Suckabee because he is so “religious”.
TeddySanFran @ 82
No way. Joe would say that times have changed but my friend has not, 9/11, Iran, blah blah blah,
and so it is with great sorrow that I must…
As Brad DeLong would would say, Joe Lieberman is worse than all possible expectations you have of him, even taking into account that he is worse than all possible expectations you have of him.
All this ‘Lil’ Bush stuff is really sickening. Check out the horrible history of ‘President Death’.
Think about it for 30 seconds and then realize that ‘Lil’ Bush is the worst sort of pap. Whoever made it should be shipped to Gitmo. Get them some ‘Lil’ Bush there.
And yeah one of my blogmates posted the damn thing on our site.
Not a subject for humor our mass murderer of a President.
Fact is…he never was.
McCain because he looks like he would die of natural causes while in office. Eww!
I think the Republican nominee will choose a woman vice-presidential running mate to offset Hillary garnering a disproportionate amount of the female vote.
I’m Gonna Tell!
Republican Candidate Sends Anti-Mormon Letter To GOP Leaders!
allan_in_upstate @ 96
GordonM @ 94
That’s Bill O’Reilly… fyi, not KO.
Agree with you, allan, but: RGJoe was vetted for the Veep nomination, and Al knows the results of that vetting. Those results could, perhaps, be used to keep RGJoe quiet.
Any repuke getting into the White House would be my worst nightmare.(just as bush is) None of them can be trusted. They care nothing about the constitution or the rule of law. They are a danger to America.
Jeb Bush.
marshen @ 98
VP Lynne Cheney
Joe Lieberman…………oh yeah, he’s not a candidate.
TeddySanFran @ 102
I still say that if McCain does not get the repub nomination, he and HoJo will run as the Unity08 tickeet.
Whcih may also give Broder the death by priapism mentioned earlier…
For what its worth, I’ll never watch Little Bush again. It was seriously the work of a sick mind. The storyline was ridiculous and I also wonder how they got it on television.
ccmask @ 107
That’s what I was asking earlier!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 90
Jane, I hear tell that you know some people in Hollywood. Let’s help old Fred out and get this scandal out early.
Oh, okay. I got sidetracked. A friend of mine called just as I posted it and told me her dad died. Her mother died three days ago. What a shame….she is devastated.
ccmask @ 108
I was shocked that anyone thought it humorous. Literally, we watched it slackjawed at my house. I can’t imagine who their intended audience is. It’s not funny and it’s not good social commentary.
FYI:
Jane just send the following update from YKOS to all Facebook FDL’ers. I repost here for those not on “the book”:
Pachacutec and I had a great time at the Yearly Kos fundraiser today. Got to actually meet some people we recognized as Facebook friends already, which was really cool. Donna Edwards was there and she’s such a great person, it’s very exciting to be supporting her in her race against Al Wynn.
There were lots of folks in attendance — Atrios, DiHinMi, Jim Dean, Teacher Ken, Matt Stoller, Adam Green, Gina Cooper, NYBri, Kombiz Lavasany, Matt Browner-Hamlin, Tracy Russo, Ali Savino, Jeffrey Feldman, Tula Connell, Murshed Zaheed and a host of other people I’m sure I’m forgetting (I blame chemo). Anyway it looks like it is going to be a really fun week with a lot of great people coming together at a very interesting time. We will keep you posted.
Jane
OT-Finally a little sunshine is being shown on the FBI’s abuse of the NSL’s!!! I sincerely hope Mueller and AGAG will be finally held accountable for their abuses! With the Legislative branch being hamstrung by the Executive’s stonewalling, it is refreshing to see the Judiciary, finally exerting their Checks and Balances!!!
http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok…..rs_fb.html
ccmask @ 110
How very sad. Is there anything we can do besides think good thoughts about them (and pray if so inclined)?
CTuttle @ 15
Aloha! Are you on Facebook yet?
Bob in HI
Alfred Kelgarries @ 115
ccmask @ 111
So sorry for your loss, and for hers.
ccmask @ 116
Understood. We will send kind thoughts to the family anyway,I’m sure. It’s what we are and what we do, here at the Lake.
Bob Schacht @ 116
I certainly am! I joined the procession of FDL Lemmings over that cliff! *g*
I joined too.
CTuttle @ 120
CTuttle are you on my friends list? How can I find you?
ccmask @ 111
I feel for your friend. A Twofer. My dad’s been in a convalscent hospital for a while. Fortunately, I have two sisters and we take turns doing the meal times. Friday night, my husband and I were there for over an hour, but dad slept the whole time. Once I rubbed his chest and kissed his forehead and called his name and realized, nope, he’s not waking up, I just stood and watched him breathe in and breathe out, the way those of us who are parents did when the kids were babies.. I’m sorry for your friend. It’s not an easy thing to bear.
Try this again.
OT from AP via MSNBC, GE and Pearson (publisher of Financial Times) looking at teaming to bid for Dow Jones
The scariest candidate for 2008? Just might be someone from my own party.
TexB @ 122
Unlike, many of the notable commenters/posters, whereby their pseudonyms make it hard to pinpoint whom you’re corresponding with, mine is straight forward; Charles Tuttle, and I joined the FDL friends group!!! The only reason why I would join!!! *g*
TexB @ 23
You got that right.
Ghouliani would be scariest as president.
I’m not sure about campaigns. It always seemed like Bush out to be easy to beat, but somehow he seemed like the teflon candidate. Ghouliani strikes me a bit that way. That is, Repugs just like the way he sounds, just like they (used to) like Bush. So Rudy keeps making stupid statements, and no one seems to care.
Frankly, I don’t know enough about the Repub candidates to judge; I think if I watched their debates I’d just start throwing things at the TV.
Bob in HI
CTuttle @ 120
What’s your Facebook name so I can add you as a “friend”?
Bob in HI
While we are talking “scary,” anyone interested in talking about planning for pandemic flu?
More info at: Ready or not . . . (for pandemic flu in Oregon)
Mary McCurnin @ 56
Did you hear the scathing NPR piece on Fred T on Friday evening? It was nasty. NPR turned over some rocks on Freddy’s slimey past re: the lobbying ties to greedy corporate interests at the expense of the people (health care/Bill Frist). If the story gets traction, Fred is out.
When I heard it, I got the impression that the powers that be (Rove, Bushco, Mil Ind Complex) had decided that Fred was not the man they want in the puppet’s seat.
Siun upstairs
Oklahoma kiddo @ 125
Ain’t that the truth! I always enjoy your comments OKK!
GordonM @ 100
Hi GordonM! ;-)
Bob Schacht @ 128
I haven’t asked to be his friend yet but I bet if ya look through all the firpups on FB, you can figger it out… ;})
CTuttle @ 114
After hearing from Comey what transpired at Ashcroft’s bedside, and knowing that Mueller was prepared to protect Comey and Ashcroft, I am going to withhold judgment about him until we get more facts. I suspect that without a few sane heads here and there across governmental offices, our country could have well been driven into the ground. Was Mueller one of them? We’ll see.
New post upstairs, but Mod help needed– someone busted the margins already.
Bob in HI
dakine01 @ 134
All 400 ?? I was hoping to save some time!
Bob in HI
Would it be irresponsible to try to guess what it could be?
Probably.
I’ll start.
I’ll bet it has to do with a starlet and videotape.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 92
Alfred, got it. Should I pick up a tongue scraper just because we said those words aloud? LOL It’s very possible bleach directly in the mouth could work just as good.
One good reason to think about supporting Hilary is that she may have learned the most important lesson: you have to clean up after you kick out the republicans. You have to force hearings, you have to release their documents, you have to find out what really happened and make it public in convincing ways, and then you have to find ways to kick out their apparatchiks.
Bill didn’t do that when he was elected. He let them rehabilitate themselves and come back from their failures with no obvious history branded on their foreheads. I really wonder if Obama, with his new beginnings stuff, or Edwards or any of the others, will realize that this housecleaning and history-making is critical.
You’ll think this is parody but I assure you it is not — it is a real post by a regular reader of a small, Republican blog called Wizbang! (that I look at) concerning Fred Thompson:
“He is TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN and I for one saw Him in the Movie Red October and said , now that guy has President of the United States written all over him.”
Alfred Kelgarries @ 1
Ron Paul is hell on parasites.
And, unlike most every other candidate in either party, Ron Paul is for peace in the Middle East.
I am scared of the one I think is the dumbest one; and for my take, it’s Fred Thompson, the perfect foil to manipulate into doing the bidding of the Dark Forces that run the Republican Party.
In spite of McCain sucking up to the fundies, I think if he were to become president and Congress was run by Dems, he would tell the fundies to kiss his ass; and they know it, so they don’t like him.
Romney has absolutely no priciples, other than sheer ambition wrapped around a Dentine smile. But he’s Jed Bush’s guy. Go figure…!
Oops, Jeb Bush. Jed/Jeb. Whatever!
I still have a creeping suspicion that we have not seen the last of Jeb! yet. Maybe the Chimp stunk up the joint too badly to jump in this round, but I’m not forgetting about the ’smart’ brother, who was a founding signatory member of PNAC.
“So who’s your nominee and why?”
Well none of them of course. But I’ll tell you one thing: Matt Taibbi is one dangerous dude to listen to. He says things like “Guiliani worse than Bush” and gains trust from those otherwise reasonable people who hear it as “Guiliani sucks” and are inclined to agree with him. Then he spouts uptight neurotic psychotic paranoid republican drivel. A phony from way back. Heard him on Seder this afternoon, and he suggested that anti-administration and equal rights demonstrators these days are insincere and somehow wrongheaded. Seemed to base this on the demonstrators’ choices of apparel.
I’m in DC now to participate in Take Back America. What IS the dress code?
Ellwort, Taibbi’s far to the left, but he’s a damn good investigative reporter.
Worst, by far, is Thompson (Fred). Doesn’t have near the liabilities that Giuliani does. A lot harder to beat.
Greg @ 147
Oh really? Sorry – maybe it’s just his sanctimonious snottiness that reminds me of my Republican uncle.
You really should be frightened of Fred Thompson. Fred will not only excite Republican voters, but will cause Democrats to cross over and vote for him. His attraction is that he gives straight answers to questions, is actually smarter and more likeable than anyone else in the current field, and has worked more REAL jobs than all the others. So what if his wife is gorgeous and he is also an excellent communicator???!!!
If you take away the fact that Brownback has not chance, so he’s not that scary, he still has the potential for scariness with his God-is-on-our-side rhetoric. It’s all there in his goodness-greatness-suckiness announcement speech:
“Ours is a great nation and I make one pledge to you, to use our greatness for goodness.
“We are a great nation because our greatness is built on the foundation of fundamental goodness. If ever we lose our goodness, we will surely lose our greatness.
…
“Our troops–the finest, most courageous people our nation has to offer–are fighting for the cause of liberty in places that have never known her. It is a long fight. We will win. We cannot lose our will to win! We must win to redeem our troops’ sacrifice.
…
“How much better we will be as we seek to live the great commandment to love God and one another.”
Fred the Actor hands down. He’s the only one who might be able to convince a majority of the sheeple to vote for him. Of course, there is the possibility that they will nominate Ghoulie, as the most liberal Rep, to take on Hillary, the most conservative Dem.
Then, there will be the “terror attack” in the weeks before the election. Worst case scenario? Dubbya pulls off a coup due to the “emergency”.
Romney – for two words . . . “double Guantanamo” . . . ‘Nuff said.
Out of all of the Republican Candidates, I think I fear Ronald Reagan’s zombie corpse the most. I know they’re desperate to recreate their twisted interpretation of the 1980’s, but this Reagon is more concerned about the trickle down effects of my blood after he eats my brains than anything else!
“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! (So I can come eat your delicious brains!)”
Romney.
Pure evil.
My picks, in order:
#1 Ron Paul
#2 Obama
#3 Hillary
Go figure.
Romney. As one blog comment put it, he should be a game show host, not President. After what will be 8 years of an Administration whose power comes from pandering to the unreality-based community, the last thing we need is another “leader” whose religiosity is so overt. And, although his faith at least appears to be authentic – for a change – his creed is fraught with, um, strangeness.
I would say the scariest is Fred Thompson. Not because he has a chance in hell but as mentioned earlier in another comment, his only purpose in running is because he sees the other drips in the race and thinks he can win. Like the rest of the repig pack, Fred is the quintessential reptilian-brained, 19th century hairy-eared white guy. The kind we need to die off if we are going to progress as a people. What is scary is he seems to coopting the Bush/Rove machine. To think that anyone with half a brain from either the right or the left would think for a second that they want to be part of this “winning strategy” goes to show the level of how demented this crew is.
The older I get the more I see how these fanatical tyrants are at the end of their rope. It is a shame the damage they have inflected on there way out. In years to come their atrocities will be viewed along the line of Hitler.
The way I see it, the way to restoration is to put Gore back in office where he belongs. Gore is no fool; in order to do this, he will challenge us, the American people before he throws his hat in the ring. What that challenge will be is at this point and unknown. As for the ticket; Gore / Obama, Gore/ Edwards, or even th unlikely match up of Gore /Hillary.
Newt! None of the current field, including Freddy, will be in the 30’s come the fall so Newt will sweep in as the savior. He’s smart and is actually willing to speak to people who oppose him so he’ll be able to run away from Bush while appealing to the conservative base.
San Carlos Matt @ 158
It will be interesting. San Carlos, CA by any chance?
The people who would actually cast their vote for any of these GOP candidates (possibly Ron Paul aside) are the ones who scare me… these candidates have term limits… there will ALWAYS be loons out there on both sides, but the GOP currently has MORE THAN THEIR FILL. No, it isn’t the candidates… it is the people who believe in the TRIPE these guys spew, such as those who after all that has happened STILL defend the likes of gwb and cheney… these folks are like monkeys in the cockpit.
No doubt: HoJo.
McCain: His mood swings are scary, he doesn’t seem like a very well balanced individual. His neocon views would make him Attila the Hun with nuclear weapons.
Rudy: His martial law use of the police to “clean up” NYC was one of the most rascist episodes in this country’s history. Hanging around with Bernie Kerick and other criminal elements should disqualify him.
Fred Thompson: After all the crap of the past 8 years I believe that Republicans could listen to all this guys fake macho B.S. and vote for him. Thompson scares me the most because he seems the most palatable to the morons who still think American influence should be projected from the barrel of a gun.
rudy. i lived with him as mayor for 8 yrs. and now my hometown is a shadow of what it used to be. he sold off new york to corporate interests, pushed out the working class, arrested the homeless, lead the riot police against the poor, overturned whole neighborhoods and decimated small businesses. not to mention his ludicrous attempt to ban art exhibits…
plus, i figure, if his own kids don’t want to have anything to do him, then why should our country?
Jane asks who the scariest republican is. And she didn’t mean which one would have the best chance at winning. She meant assume one of these fuckers wins. Which one would fuck up the country the most if given the chance.
Hands down, John McCain. Not even close. He is atrocious in so many ways.
McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and Gingrich all have too much going against them that will prevent their nomination. Brownback, Paul, and the rest have too little going for them to be a real threat. Thompson doesn’t have any real baggage, he hasn’t really done or said much to hold against him, and seems able to talk a good game.
I predict a year from now Thompson will have the nomination all but sewn up. I hope I am wrong in saying this, but if anyone can channel the spirit of Ronald Reagan successfully, Fred Thompson is the one.
DavidLA @ 165
I sadly concur wrt Thompson, only I think he’ll have it sewn up after his 2nd debate.
Barack Obama is the scariest GOP candidate, because they’re running him as a Democrat, and the general populace seems to be falling it…Rb
They’re all Nazi thugs except Ron Paul.
I would love to see a Obama/Paul ticket.
God helps us if McCain is the candidate.
Just look at the way he comes is hair shows he is sneaky……
The creature that crawled up from the black lagoon, I think it was called a “Brownback”. Very very scary.
All of the above. We’re destined to revert to the Dark Ages in Science and social progress with every one of these false gods. Thank the neocons for poisoning an entire party within only a few years. Dems, moderates and Progressives have seized the agenda and will run away with elections into the next decade.
Mitt. Scariest. Hands down. Guilliani believes he’s God, and I’d much rather take that kind of predictability (and manipulability… i.e., just push the right buttons (goat sacrifice, whatever) and he’ll occasionally do the right thing) over Mitt’s effed up religion which was founded by a shyster of scientology purportions and necessitates such extreme compartmentalization of thought that there is no way you’d get anything reasonable out of him. It would be like having one of those AI IM bots running the country, just preloaded with bizarre religious soundbites.
Citizen: “Mr. President, unemployment is up and one million new children are living below the poverty line”
Romney: “The meek shall inherit Utah! Marry them off to the sheiks, they’re be first to get in to heaven because they have the most wives… our founder said so! Although we pretend he didn’t. Or he was mistaken, BUT only about that. The younger the better! Well, that’s why we ended up in Utah, everyone else kept kicking us west when we married their daughters… But ignore all that. That didn’t really happen, really.”
Citizen: “If you believe the rapture is iminent, why in the world should we trust you to make any kind of rational long term decision for the country?”
Romney: “We’re Christians, really we are. We just believe in taking the advice offered by small, decorative rocks we stare into for hours in a small velvet sack.”
The two republican candidates that scare me are Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. I want an end to war and this corporate government. But, Hillary has shown that she loves the war, and corporate rule. Barak Obama has repeatedly threatened to attack Iran if he becomes president.
The guys on the other Republican side don’t scare me because I don’t think they will get elected. Hillary and Barak are the republicans to watch out for.
Rudy. First, because he is emotionally volatile to a point where he truly can blow the world up. McCain, second, same reason. Third, Tancredo, also unhinged.
Any of those 3 would be far worse than W.
AlexandriaCynic @ 21
Couldn’t agree more on the dirt part and Gore would be the best prez.
one question to ask the candidates that is never asked
who will be on your team ??
will you choose a pro-war vp who has never served ??
will you populate your cabinet only w/people who have a net worth of over 5 million ??
will you have the likes of hugh hewitt as your spokesperson (mitt ??)
will you have ‘good american’ ‘bushie-type’ ‘partisan loyalists’ populate the various arteries of power ??
will you only have people who graduated from regent and liberty u or will you also hire grads from yale law or are harvard mbas too ??
will your lawyers be only members of the federalist society or can they be heritage foundation members too ??
are people who have committed crimes in the nixon, reagan, bush I, and/or bush tu! administrations off limits as hirees or are you a person who believes in rehabilitation ??
(same questions w/minor modifications for the dem candidates too)
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The real question to ask among this group of Bozos is, Who is the Most Fun?
I think its Rudy because if the republican party is stupid enough to go with him, the unraveling of not only his past, but his volatile temper…not to mention his wonderful past and the pasts of his women and goombahs….well, it should be a blast.
If America is stupid enough to want any of these clowns then that may be what we deserve…
So, My vote for Most Fun to take apart? RUDY!!
Giuliani is the worst, followed by Romney talking about building two Git-Mo’s. The only true Republican is Ron Paul.
As someone who has survived four years of the Romney governorship, I put my vote in for Romney for the following:
He does have a conviction and it is making the numbers look good. He gutted basic services in Massachusetts to the point that quality of life suffered and as a result, people started fleeing Massachusetts! He will talk about how he revitalized Massachusetts but he did it by making it impossible for the average person to get by.
He may flip flop on issues because he knows that they don’t matter in the final analysis. He wants to make sure that his shareholders (i.e. the landed gentry… oops, I mean the wealthy) get returns on a business climate that his administration will create. No matter what that does to the general populace.
Then again, isn’t that what being a Republican means anyway?
The scariest right-wing presidential candidate is Hillary Clinton.
Depsite the lies from the right-wing noise machine claiming she’s a ‘Liberal’, she never has been liberal in her life. (I’m a liberal, and she’s NOT one.)
She served on the Board of Directors for Wal-Mart back in the ’80s as Token Women.
Her work at the infamous Rose law firm was to take on cases that were too abhorent to the other partners there. Such as defending corporate rights to kill US citizens through unlimited pollution dumping.
She gleefully voted for the Iraq war and only reluctantly started speaking against it when Bush’s popularity got too low. Despite her statements now, I don’t see her actually doing anything to prevent Bush’s Iranian war.
Her impending nomination is a setup by the far right as a means to re-energize their base. To put any Democrat in office after Bush is a trap to hang the Iraq occupation onto the Dems and absolve the GOP of all related sins.
She is as corrupt as any politician can ever be, and she’s a double-agent of the right.
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Having lived under Ghoulini’s fascist rule in NYC, I know what to expect. He demanded that his rule as dictator of NYC be extended illegally because 9-11 had postponed and election. He would definitely be happy as dictator of the US, and gleefully assist in the thrid-worldization of America that is the GOP’s primary goal.
masaccio @ 140
There are two other very good reasons for “housecleaning” (i.e finding out all the unConstitutional and illegal acts of the prior administration).
1) It basically prevents all those who were involved in such criminal actions out of politics.
2) It commits one to abiding to the same standards one is effectuating. Everyone in the new Administration knows that the Republicans will show no mercy if they ever reach any semblance of power (of course they wouldn’t anyways).
It really seems silly that the Democrats are so pusillanimous when it comes to challenging the UnConstitutional Acts of this regime. It’s almost as if they think they can use those same “policies” when they come to power…but wouldn’t it be better to get the Supremes to decide on the Constitutionality of these Acts NOW?
After all, if they aren’t going to use these “powers” then it’ll be undecided until another Republican Administration. And then the unchallenged precedent will be there. But if they do apply it, isn’t it obvious that the Republicans WILL challenge the action (and thus look good doing so).
If the current Supremes rule that such Acts are Constitutional at least the Dems can know precisely what they need to do to either constrain the use of these horrific activities, or submit Constitutional Amendments to revise them.
Rudy, because I never could learn to goosestep.
What’s curious to me about this question is that it shows how fear has become such a major meme/filter for how we establish a view of the world. To think we spend our time rating the “scariest” Rethug in essence implies our powerlessness. We have been conditioned, it seems, to nip-and-run from these corporate ghouls like poodles with weak bladders. To protect our union, we need to park the whole lot of these fascist bastards in limbo, and take the fight to their doors in northern Virginia, if need be. For I for one am sick of these bully-boy, half-men.
My knee-jerk detestation for these closet criminals has attached itself to my soul like a malignant tumor when I think of how much of my life has been spent in foreboding of what these military-industrial types might do to our country or the world. So remember, the more coverage they get, the more their insane albeit deceptive positions become a part of the election discourse. Presuming, as such, that “discourse” is even possible with Wolf Blitzer’s mug getting more air time than the candidates.
My vote? The whole lot stinks on both sides except for Edwards, Kucinich or Gravel.
I think anyone who votes in accordance with the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a good candidate, regardless of party affiliation.
Anyone who subverts the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a traitor to our country.
These should be the only criteria.
Ron Paul – 08
Alicia @ 145
Jebby’s hoping for a job in the Cabinet of the next Administration as grooming for the next Campaign. He’d likely hope that McCain gets the call…as he won’t likely run for re-election. McCain just wants the job to fill out his CV…he isn’t interested in BEING PRESIDENT…just winning the Presidency. It’s an ego thing. That’s why he’s spent the ast few years sucking up to Dubya, and the fundies.
I can’t choose! I live in Denver and saw a car yesterday with a Giuliani/Romney 2008 bumper sticker on it. So you see, we can have them both. Yikes!
There is no doubt that Mitt Romney is the most scarey of all the Prez candidates. Why? Simply put, anyone who believes the fantastical nonsense that is Mormonism just isn’t fit to be the leader of the free world. For example, if Romney is a true Mormon then he believes that when he eventually achieves his celestial paradise reward he will become a “God” and he will spawn children who will worship him!(Sounds like a Star Trek episode I once saw).
Think folks, think real hard. Reason with yourself over such things as the discovery by Joseph Smith (after an angel showed him where to find it all) of the breastplate worn by an Israelite, the Golden Plates, the magic stones and a brass plate with genealogies written upon it by a mysterious author called Laban. And where did he discover this booty? In upstate New York!
Is this the kind of kooky stuff you want the President of the United States believing? If you think George Bush is a crazy, holy-roller you ain’t seen nothin’ yet if Romney becomes President!
Mary McCurnin @ 17
control-freak
Giuliani is a psychological disaster: mean, as blind as Bush to democracy in a republic. Fred Thompson is a double for Homer Simpson and about as
trustworthy.
The rest of the GOP candidates are egos looking for a mirror.
As for the Democrats — the field is almost as scary. Hilary can’t win against anyone unless every woman in the US votes for her, which is unlikely. Obama had simply no experience and his education cannot waste another 4 years of this country’s future. Only a fluke will make one of the other would-bes the nominee.
I agree.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 1
Aeolus @ 2
Draft Gen. Wes Clark. He will get us out of Irag and calm the rift in the region.
TexB @ 6
I agree.
CTuttle @ 15
What scares me the most is what I have read above, save for one voice, Scot, who seems to have a handle on the REAL ISSUES:
“The two republican candidates that scare me are Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama. I want an end to war and this corporate government. But, Hillary has shown that she loves the war, and corporate rule. Barak Obama has repeatedly threatened to attack Iran if he becomes president.
The guys on the other Republican side don’t scare me because I don’t think they will get elected. Hillary and Barak are the republicans to watch out for.”
And Kyle, and those who have a glimmer that the real issues just might be global economic fascism brought to you by the same folks who give you the Federal Reserve, the non-constitutionally compliant and illegal IRS, and who control the media that just might, and I say might, because GB may have ruined his chances, bring you the savior Jeb Bush to help alleviate the confusion relative to “so many candidates, so little relevance”.
Face Book, “the tv show “little bush”, and a discussion on the suitability of an actor as president??? These are issues?
Where is the issue of the Constitution?
Ask yourself why the least electable of the candidates is the only one making any sense by basing his arguments in the Constitution. Is there a belief that the Constitution is no longer relevant?
Ask yourself why Congress, which is allowed by the Constitution to coin money, instead chose to allow a private bank (The Federal Reserve) to print our money and gave us the privilege of giving them Ten Trillion dollars (the National Debt ) in interest?
If you research nothing else, research how the FR came into being, by whom, for whom, who it is now (that you will not be able to determine; for not even the administration can tell you that, they don’t know either) and for what purpose does it exist.
This, folks, is the issue “they” do not want discussed, along with the Constitution. If somehow, Ron Paul is able to garner any support for these discussions, as JFK tried to do, I can guarantee you that Paul will end up with the same fate. And he knows it.
I think Sam Brownbeck, the Senator from Kansas because of his far right-wing religious views. He would take womem back to the early 1800’s and probably try to revoke their right to vote. We’d all be wearing burkas!!!!
BROWNBACK:
His support for “Rapist’s Fatherhood Rights” are deeply disturbing. American-Taliban Hypocrisy. HE MAKES JESUS WEEP.
Almost as disturbing is MSM IGNORING such outrageous comments from a Presidential candidate. But then, even Democracy Now has overlooked the issue.
Rudy and Romney run close seconds.
barry @ 185
Yeah, and Paul wouldn’t throw your baby out with the bath water, or your aging parents for that matter. No cash, no go… The government should only have a standing army, cause their is such a lot caring professionals in the private sector to take care of all those weakling parasites in our country anyway. Just like those fine folks who served Edith Rodriguez a big pile of indifference, eh?
Paul is a strict Libertarian, no matter whose hat he dons. And the only difference between him and the present crop of Corporatists is the nice little red arm band with the funny symbol in the middle of a black dot that he has in his closet. And his anti-war rhetoric is just Straussian electioneering. Because there is a class of better men who should lead, and can lie to do so. Right? Leo?
Anyway, anyone who runs for office for other than altruistic motives is insane. The big chief, king-of-the-mountain shite is nothing but pure bathos, and doesn’t make the lives of the “power-full” one minute longer or any more valuable than the “least among us.” Its all theatrics and sideshow antics, and we buy our tickets to the cheap seats over-and-over again without question.
Brownback.
He’s a Christian Reconstructionist and will get more votes than people think.
katie Jensen @ 9
Here, here. 1980 was a dim year for Democracy (the “October Surprise” notwithstanding), and all the true-believing Reagan-youth need to grow up and realize that the “great communicator” sold-them-a-bill-of-goods.
But the “gipper” myth and the politics of fifties nostalgia go together quite well like football, thermo-nuclear war and Jesus. Its get all the flat-top, panty-wastes drooling for big daddies lash. Drop trou there Beaver…its for your own good. Yummy…
But Mr. “Its Morning In America” had one thing going for him that is different from this new breed of corporate henchmen; Ronnie actually believed his own PR. He had faith in it. That Pat Boone sort of the malevolent-benevolent kind of faith in a fairy tale that works to help them avoid having to make contact with the “reality based” community. (That would be us.)
But yeah, he poisoned the well. And as the NEW-Cons don’t seem to believe in anything, his legacy is quite plain: the destruction of the middle class, hence our way of life.
Any questions? Check the local listings for the latest Behaviorist drama were the lack of resources piques the ruthlessness of the TeeVee tribe. Nevermind…
The only Republican who doesn’t actually scare me is Ron Paul, whom actually seems like an honest human… but that might be either the best or worst possible thing.
Umm, Knewt anyone?
wait, scratch that…Newt? Scariest.
Tancredo is a Nazi, but stands little chance of winning. Maybe he’ll be a running mate?
They are all scarey. Their decision making skills are pretty horrific too. Look at what they chose for a wife! Nominate Hillary and one of these republican frankensteins will win.
Great post! I’ve got a new video that nails McCain, Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson. After several months of speeches and debates a picture of each candidate has started to emerge–and it ain’t pretty. Feel free to share it with friends.
I’m still waiting for everybody’s favorite dangerous dingbat to come out from underneath whatever rock is festering under – Alan Keyes! Or perhaps some dumbshit rich asshole could send Robert “B-1″ Dornan a few sheckles to provide some real comic relief. Or maybe god will get bored watching all these right wing pinheads making the usual complete asses of themselves and tell Pat “Rubber room” Robertson to run again or he’ll give him running sores to go with his needle dick.
They’re all scary but what’s even more frightening is that it is increasingly clear that our electoral system is obviously broken. Further, our elected representatives now submit to special interests as soon as they take office, leaving the best interests of the public unprotected. The result: evil candidates that lie to get elected or (somewhat) honest candidates that sell out to stay in power. The twin specters of Greed and Money have poisoned this country to a dangerous level.
yes, each is scary in his own creepy way, but i think there is something outstandingly creepy about several, namely sam brownback, tom tancredo, and duncan hunter especially…god help us!
Guiliani – scariest.
My candidate – Edwards.
Fred Thompson – because he is an actor (not a very good actor, but an actor none the less.) Combine his ‘Ol Fred’ character, the one who wears jeans and work-boots and drives a (rented) red pick-up, with the idiots who will think he really was a D.A. in NYC, keeping them libruls from setting criminals free, toss in the Republican Noise Machine and Chris Matthews drooling over Fred’s manly scent. Add that he’s a white Southern male.
Now contrast that against the Dems who will have a woman and/or a multi-racial man somewhere on the ticket and you will see a revival of racism verging on the heyday of the Klan in the ’20’s and the vicious response to the Civil Rights Movement in the ’60’s.
2008 is going to be a really bad year – I’m guessing at least one assassination or attempt – Obama has had to have Secret Service protection and he’s not even the nominee.
all of them except for Ron Paul.
Rudy all the way.
all he says is “you’re going to die. the terrorist are trying to kill.”