@98- traingular gutters: I disagree with you. Moe and Coleman were both acting so superior and flouting such ridiculous hubris, while Ventura came off as humble and plain-spoken (sound familiar?). And, as Christy mentions, KQ morning show had a lot to do with marketing Ventura to their culture.
That’s the way I saw it, observing things at that time. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Bill Moyers has Grace Lee Boggs on. Ms. Boggs is considered a radical. Lord, I love this woman.

One of my heroes as well. I love those strong labor union people with so much integrity. Every corporate executive knows he/she is really a sham and can be replaced in a heart beat. But the workers deep within the company are the people who make them a success. I also love Bill Moyers.

I’m heading up to the mountains to renew my soul. It reminds me how easily the Earth can sweep us all away, clean itself up and continue on with its evolution, without us.

AND THE GOP JUST LOVES TO CONDEMN THE CONGRESS as does the press… trying to say the Dems are “as bad as the repubs”…. NEVER!!!

Vote in enough Dems… WIN THE WHITEHOUSE… and then decide how to divide the spoils…

Had Coleman won, he might have faced the same problems Romney does now: a record of actually trying to govern a fundamentally blue state.

I voted Nader in 2000 on the same basis as I would have voted for Jesse, but before you ban me I’ll point out I was in MA at the time, and I knew very well the only thing my vote was going to do was inch towards 5%. Well, that failed too. And finding out what compassionate conservatism was about filled me with white-hot rage, and turned this apothetic apolitical into a reliable source of money and message.

Congress is on notice. At 23%, five points below the President, nobody’s going to pull off an iffy reelection campaign, everybody is going to get primaried, and whatever base is left from 2006 is going to be demoralized unless some kind of argument can be made that 2006 made any difference by 2008. Those numbers are low enough that the usual tricksters may rev up the third parties again, and it might work.

In terms of presidential politics, there’s one Democrat especially vulnerable to third-party peel-off, and I really hope Gore shows up in case that happens to her.

Too bad McGovern is 85 and all. I still think he would have been a pretty good President and he would have stopped a lot of the sh*t that went down.

IMNSHO

When people wanted to know who I voted for (any year they ask) I say “McGovern.” Broke my heart when he didn’t win.

Phoenix Woman @ 82

Be very wary of Counterpunch, especially Alec Cockburn tries to claim that global warming is a myth.

As for Obama, he’s not my first choice, but the whole “he’s not ‘black’ enough/hasn’t paid his dues/Oreo sellout traitor” business that Al Sharpton’s people started is ridiculous, in light of the fact that he’s been a community activist on Chicago’s South Side since 1983. Obama’s main ’sin’ is apparently that he comes from Chicago and not New York and thus didn’t grow up under Sharpton’s tutelage.

There are plenty of other things that make me uncomfortable about him. Most recently his support for liquified coal which all of a sudden he is backing off of since people found out.

Kos said it well today and spoke for me about Leading. I agree with him about both Hillary and Barak. Neither is showing the kind of leadership I want to see.

What specifically do you want them to do, jump through flaming hoops? Aren’t they the ideal Liberal team (Prez Hillary and Veep Obama)? Isn’t that what the media says, that they’re Liberals?

What is leadership after all during a campaign?

Loo Hoo. @ 52

I kinda feel about Obama the way OKK and RevDeb feel about Clinton. It would be a clenched teeth vote.

I’m not thrilled about Obama either. FWIW.

Why not? He’s against the Iraq war and has been from the beginning? What else could you possibly dislike about him? BTW, he’s got a great smile and wears expensive suits.

lectric lady @ 40

The big question is, it you don’t like Hillary:

Will you work, tooth-and-nail to get her elected, or will you just sit by, not contribute, and, yawn, pull the lever for her on election day.

I will do the former, even thought she is not my first choice.

Work, tooth-and-nail to get Edwards/Obama, not sure yet, thru the Primary, then assess the situation, and drive on for a General victory for the Dems!!! (Psst-I Heart Gore!)

If current polls are right it’s more likely to be Clinton-anybody, rather than Obama- or Edwards-.

Why do people say they detest her and yet she’s leading in the polls?

What’s the difference between Giuliani, Clinton, Obama or Kerry?

Do people not know there are differences?

Senator Hillary Clinton does not stand for what I believe in.

Care to specify and elucidate?

Enquiring minds want to know the differences between Giuliani, Clinton and Obama.