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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-764502</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;But as you’ll learn from watching this video, Janina did play by the rules. She emigrated from Poland with all the proper paperwork, set up life in America with her husband, had a child who is an American citizen.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And despite all that, she has been deported back to Poland, forced to take her young son with her, and leave her soon-to-be-citizen husband behind. The family is torn apart — and as you’ll see, it was all because of a broken system that simply fails to live up to what we Americans like to think is our dream, our way of life.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I didn’t learn that; there was nothing in that video that gave me any indication that Janina “played by the rules” at all. And neither did I find anything substantial on the linked website to support that statement either. And being both a decade-long immigration professional and being married to a green-card holder, I find it difficult to believe that Janina was deported for “checking off the wrong box on a form”, as another commenter alleged previously.&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anyone who can substantiate any of this? Because as much as I’d like to commisserate with this story, I strongly feel like I’m being taken for a ride.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But as you’ll learn from watching this video, Janina did play by the rules. She emigrated from Poland with all the proper paperwork, set up life in America with her husband, had a child who is an American citizen.</em></p>
<p><em>And despite all that, she has been deported back to Poland, forced to take her young son with her, and leave her soon-to-be-citizen husband behind. The family is torn apart — and as you’ll see, it was all because of a broken system that simply fails to live up to what we Americans like to think is our dream, our way of life.</em></p>
<p>I didn’t learn that; there was nothing in that video that gave me any indication that Janina “played by the rules” at all. And neither did I find anything substantial on the linked website to support that statement either. And being both a decade-long immigration professional and being married to a green-card holder, I find it difficult to believe that Janina was deported for “checking off the wrong box on a form”, as another commenter alleged previously.<br />
Is there anyone who can substantiate any of this? Because as much as I’d like to commisserate with this story, I strongly feel like I’m being taken for a ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ditto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763759</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember, there was no such thing as *legal* immigration until 1924. All that existed prior to that time was various constrictions of the Naturalization Act of 1795 which stated that only free white people could become citizens. We had wide open borders for 130 years as a nation and for 150 years before that and somehow managed to avoid being crushed under the hordes of white people coming over (although Native Americans might beg to differ).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most Americans are descended from undocumented immigrants. The only documentation my original immigrant ancestors had was notations on a ship’s manifest. The fact is that every immigration control law ever passed in this country has been fueled by fear of the “other,” and usually based on race (the main exception would be the red scare immigration laws in the 1950s).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It wasn’t until 1965 that we fully de-racialized the immigration law, and every tightening of the law ever since has once again been fueled by hysteria over race and ethnicity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Asian community as well as the Catholic Church have long institutional memories about the motives behind US immigration law throughout our country’s history, and that’s why they are backing this effort.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, there was no such thing as *legal* immigration until 1924. All that existed prior to that time was various constrictions of the Naturalization Act of 1795 which stated that only free white people could become citizens. We had wide open borders for 130 years as a nation and for 150 years before that and somehow managed to avoid being crushed under the hordes of white people coming over (although Native Americans might beg to differ).</p>
<p>Most Americans are descended from undocumented immigrants. The only documentation my original immigrant ancestors had was notations on a ship’s manifest. The fact is that every immigration control law ever passed in this country has been fueled by fear of the “other,” and usually based on race (the main exception would be the red scare immigration laws in the 1950s).</p>
<p>It wasn’t until 1965 that we fully de-racialized the immigration law, and every tightening of the law ever since has once again been fueled by hysteria over race and ethnicity.</p>
<p>The Asian community as well as the Catholic Church have long institutional memories about the motives behind US immigration law throughout our country’s history, and that’s why they are backing this effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ditto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763724</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My understanding from someone on the train is that Janina accidentally checked the wrong box when she filed some visa paperwork around a dozen years ago. This is what led to her deportation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding from someone on the train is that Janina accidentally checked the wrong box when she filed some visa paperwork around a dozen years ago. This is what led to her deportation.</p>
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		<title>By: b&#38;J</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763690</link>
		<dc:creator>b&#38;J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;as they claim, it’s unfair to the people who play by the rules and immigrate legally.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, many of us who aren’t nativists or as you seem to think, bigots, believe that. I personally know someone from India who’s been trying to get here to rejoin her sister, aunt and uncle and can’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m glad you brought up that not all illegal immigrants are from Mexico. That may be what motivates some racists, but having lived in a neighborhood run over with illegal EAST European immigrants who turned every single-family home and apartment on my block into illegal boarding houses, I’m well aware that plenty of illegals are white.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Immigrants who break the immmigration laws are illegal immigrants. period. it’s more complicated than white vs. “brown”. Not everyone who’s “progressive” is in favor of illegal immigration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as they claim, it’s unfair to the people who play by the rules and immigrate legally.</p>
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<p>Actually, many of us who aren’t nativists or as you seem to think, bigots, believe that. I personally know someone from India who’s been trying to get here to rejoin her sister, aunt and uncle and can’t.</p>
<p>I’m glad you brought up that not all illegal immigrants are from Mexico. That may be what motivates some racists, but having lived in a neighborhood run over with illegal EAST European immigrants who turned every single-family home and apartment on my block into illegal boarding houses, I’m well aware that plenty of illegals are white.</p>
<p>Immigrants who break the immmigration laws are illegal immigrants. period. it’s more complicated than white vs. “brown”. Not everyone who’s “progressive” is in favor of illegal immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: ardee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763406</link>
		<dc:creator>ardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just imagine if those Native Americans watching the Pilgrims land on Plymouth Rock had been members of the GOP…Pilgrims sail back to England and further religious intolerance, or perhaps Pilgrims find new home includes sweatshops and fourteen hour shifts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After almost seven years of George I find it very difficult to understand the sympathies of those like Liberty Lee who believe Bush is anything more than a shallow and clueless person using immigration to assist his large campaign donors union busting efforts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK its a bit more complicated than that….but essentially????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just imagine if those Native Americans watching the Pilgrims land on Plymouth Rock had been members of the GOP…Pilgrims sail back to England and further religious intolerance, or perhaps Pilgrims find new home includes sweatshops and fourteen hour shifts.</p>
<p>After almost seven years of George I find it very difficult to understand the sympathies of those like Liberty Lee who believe Bush is anything more than a shallow and clueless person using immigration to assist his large campaign donors union busting efforts.</p>
<p>OK its a bit more complicated than that….but essentially????</p>
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		<title>By: Stagger Lee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763377</link>
		<dc:creator>Stagger Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now people that don’t follow the party line around here are creatures, good to know.&lt;br /&gt;
I think I’ve found those “limousine liberals” the neoclowns are so excited about referencing every chance they get.&lt;br /&gt;
I want the current immigration laws &lt;em&gt;enforced&lt;/em&gt;, let the name calling begin.&lt;br /&gt;
OBTW I’m a working stiff who &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; lost a job due to illegal immigration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now people that don’t follow the party line around here are creatures, good to know.<br />
I think I’ve found those “limousine liberals” the neoclowns are so excited about referencing every chance they get.<br />
I want the current immigration laws <em>enforced</em>, let the name calling begin.<br />
OBTW I’m a working stiff who <em>has</em> lost a job due to illegal immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: mapaghimagsik</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763338</link>
		<dc:creator>mapaghimagsik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to the Republican Party, the brown creatures are not as equal as others.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Republican Party, the brown creatures are not as equal as others.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763264</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-763255&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;james @ 58&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-763106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LibertyLee @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I’m FOR immigrants having a shot at the American Dream.  It is my opinion that George W. Bush shares the Reagan vision of America as a “shining City on a Hill”.  You may disagree with him.  You may disagree with me.  Does that make me a “creature”?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone who agrees with the views of the lizard people currently running this government is, in my opinion, a creature…and not quite a fully sentient one either.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But aren’t we all God’s creatures?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-763255"><em>james @ 58</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-763106"><em>LibertyLee @ 12</em></a></p>
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I’m FOR immigrants having a shot at the American Dream.  It is my opinion that George W. Bush shares the Reagan vision of America as a “shining City on a Hill”.  You may disagree with him.  You may disagree with me.  Does that make me a “creature”?</p>
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<p>Anyone who agrees with the views of the lizard people currently running this government is, in my opinion, a creature…and not quite a fully sentient one either.</p>
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<p>But aren’t we all God’s creatures?</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763255</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-763106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LibertyLee @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-763104&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;james @ 11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, geez, please don’t feed these creatures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m FOR immigrants having a shot at the American Dream.  It is my opinion that George W. Bush shares the Reagan vision of America as a “shining City on a Hill”.  You may disagree with him.  You may disagree with me.  Does that make me a “creature”?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone who agrees with the views of the lizard people currently running this government is, in my opinion, a creature…and not quite a fully sentient one either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-763106"><em>LibertyLee @ 12</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-763104"><em>james @ 11</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, geez, please don’t feed these creatures.</p>
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<p>I’m FOR immigrants having a shot at the American Dream.  It is my opinion that George W. Bush shares the Reagan vision of America as a “shining City on a Hill”.  You may disagree with him.  You may disagree with me.  Does that make me a “creature”?</p>
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<p>Anyone who agrees with the views of the lizard people currently running this government is, in my opinion, a creature…and not quite a fully sentient one either.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonymous in nc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/15/losing-janina/#comment-763197</link>
		<dc:creator>pseudonymous in nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ugh. Too late to edit upthread. If Americans faced the same bureaucratic dysfunction from the &lt;i&gt;IRS&lt;/i&gt;, they’d be up in arms.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. Too late to edit upthread. If Americans faced the same bureaucratic dysfunction from the <i>IRS</i>, they’d be up in arms.</p>
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