New York is truly the greatest city in the world. That’s always an easy conclusion to reach after spending a week there (and eating a week’s worth of food there) as I just did.
I didn’t have any Internet access and only watched a few scattered minutes of the local news channel, NY1. I learned from NY1 that, while I had no fear of a Caribbean plot to destroy JFK, I should have been concerned about the spike in near-misses at local NY airports. Go ahead and add the FAA to the list of departments that has gone to pot under the Bush Administration.
The only other piece of news I caught all week was excellent, though. The City Council and Mayor Bloomberg delivered their 2008 budget early. Good for New Yorkers, I thought. Also, good for property owners, who will have a healthy tax cut.
But then NY1 ran a poll with extremely satisfying results. It showed that while New Yorkers were happy about the tax cuts, they were just about as happy that the budget will extend the hours of all the public libraries.
In a victory for [Council Speaker Christine] Quinn, the budget allows for six-day a week public library service throughout the five boroughs.
“We in the council proposed the idea of over three years phasing in six day library service,” she said. “But it is really beyond our greatest expectations that the budget we have reached today doesn’t get us six day libraries in three year, it does it immediately in one year, and that is a real benefit to New Yorkers.”
I brought my new copy of Al Gore’s Assault on Reason on this trip and read it cover to cover. For anybody reading sites like FDL regularly, there’s not too much in it that you don’t already know. But it is excellent, nonetheless, and any book that ends with a stirring defense of Net Neutrality deserves the highest praise.
In the book, Gore reminds me that while the phone companies and media conglomerates were folding like cheap tents in the face of pressure from the administration, it is librarians who have been standing firm in the front lines of the fight to preserve our civil liberties.
Coincidentally, I noticed this article in yesterday’s USA Today, which describes how libraries aren’t satisfied with defending our liberties; they are tackling the issues of poverty and health that other government agencies have been either unwilling or unable to handle.
Al Gore is correct when he writes that there is an assault on reason and that a well-educated, well-informed and well-connected citizenry is our only hope of saving this republic from the destination that lies at the end of the path on which Bush has guided us. Libraries are a vital ingredient in that equation. I can’t tell you how thrilled I was to see the greatest city in the world recognizes that, too.



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Dover Bitch Zed!
Gol Dang, two is a row!
Where’s our lolo?
Quiet over here tonight.
DB! Woohoo, Friday nite rocking at the Lake.
Evenin’ DB, evenin’ all. That’s good to hear about the NYC public libraries!
It will pick up, DB, once folks realize we are graced with another visit from ya. Welcome back.
Speaking of NYC and libraries. For all those who may be headed into the city you can get free internet access at the NYPL. It is a sight to see too.
I was so happy that early on after 9/11 the librarians were the first to say STOP to the Bush Administration. Nobody gets information about what one is reading.
I remember thinking at the time that it was strange that it was the librarians, rather than the lawyers or congress.
Librarians are the masters of the universe.
Pssst. Hey kid. Yeah, you. I’ve got this neat book over here. Lots of great pictures, a really good story . . . And it’s free.
Oh, you’re back. Well, I’ve got this other book, even better than that first one. No, really, take a peek . . . And it’s free.
Back again? Well, no pictures in this book, but what an incredible adventure . . . And it’s free.
Crack dealers could take lessons.
I heard the tail end of Randi Rhodes today. Apparently she challenged her listeners to read The Assault on Reason over the course of the week and Gore was on to talk about it.
I highly recommend it. Everything in it is well known to bloggers but it is truly a remarkable compendium of examples of the Bush Administration’s destructive acts on our system of government.
Gore also does a fantastic job of tying his theme into the history of the foundation of our democracy.
The Pro from Dover’s back!
Go Loo Hoo!
First among a Class-A group of Dogs!
Good evening, DB. Got Gore’s book but haven’t started reading yet; now I’m motivated.
Isn’t it ironic that Laura Bush is a “librarian”?
Dover Bitch @ 10
But– but– Andrew Ferguson said it was incoherent! (He also said that it had no footnotes to allow for fact-checking, even though the book has copious end notes, but hey.)
Hi there. I have some great memories from my college years when I spent a lot of time doing historical research at the Maryland Room of the Enoch Pratt Free Library in downtown Baltimore.
As an impoverished student I was probably a pretty scruffy looking character but the folks there were always helpful. I learned that librarians really are invaluable for steering you to sources you may not have thought of. The ones at the Maryland Historical Society were also exceptional.
Peterr @ 9
There was a character on Sesame Street who sold letters under his coat like stolen watches.
pssst! wanna buy a letter h?
A what? A LETTER H?
Shhhhhh! yeah, yeah… a letter h.
I loved libraries as a kid. Not all of the times I told my folks I was going to the library were lies – was true more times than it was not.
Hello demi!!
Thank you, DB, for the praise of librarians. They were always my favorite people as a kid; I remember how helpful they were, like having internet without the hassle of a crappy little 14.4 modem. Although I do remember the summer I got questioned by a librarian about my book choices; I was 14 and went to the library at least once a week (since it was only 3 blocks from home), and I read 5 or more books a week. But I also picked out books for my mom who was too busy or tired from working 2nd and 3rd shifts at the hospital to go to the library herself. “They’re for my mom,” I’d told the librarian. Of course she never asked which ones those were out of my pile of books…
Funny, that’s the second time I’ve thought of that this week. Guess it’s because my daughter is now 13.5 years old; I don’t know that she’d be able to pick out books for me just yet. Hmm. And I wonder what the librarian would say if she did.
Future generations won’t know what we mean when we say that a State of the Union speech “should be shelved in the fiction section.”
My Mom took us three kids to the library every week when we were wee young ‘uns. I remember checking out armloads of books each visit, and I devoured them all before the next time. Lifelong book lover here :-)
Good evening Scarecrow and Phoenix Woman!
Yes, the book is so well written and there is a damning example of the mendacity of this rotten crew on every page.
Here’s an example that jumped out at me: After Abu Ghraib, I immediately thought about the Stanford Prison Experiment, in which it was demonstrated 30 years ago that even the best natured and brightest among us will turn vicious when given absolute power with no constraints at all in a prison environment. It didn’t take me long to decide that the blame went all the way up the ladder for allowing the abuses to take place.
Gore makes a similar point, but really caps it off with this:
Oh, and I bought Assault on Reason this week, too…but I loaned it out immediately to a friend who needed the reading material more than I did. As long as I get it back before Gore comes to the Lake for a Book Salon [hint-hint].
burnspbesq @ 21
we hope.
Dover Bitch @ 17
It was, Would you like to buy an O, Round and neat, A nearly perfect circle, Almost good enough to eat….
A circle?
Yeah….riiiiiight.
One of my favs.
Hey Loo…member how Phil said you’d like politics better in LA, but you’d have to learn Spanish. I always say I only know Sesame Street Spanish. Cerrado. Abierto. How do you say smiley face in Spainish?
not sure about smiley face, but IIRC sonrisa = smile en espanol
Dover Bitch @ 17
Right skit, but wrong letter. It was an O . . .
Would you like to buy an O?
Round and neat.
A nearly perfect circle,
Tidy and complete.
You can sing a pretty song with it like so-oo:
O! O! O!
(isn’t that catchy)
Would you like to buy an O?
circular and sweet?
O looks just like a donut,
really good enough to eat
It’ll cost ya just a nickel
(A nickel?!?!?)
Shhhhhh! Riiiiight.
So buy the o and take it home tonight.
So would you like to buy an O?
I’m opening the door.
It’s not often that I offer,
really, could you ask for more?
It’ll cost you just a nickel
(a nickel?!?!)
shhh! Riiiight.
So buy the o, and take it home tonight,
don’t ask any questions,
just buy the o and take it home tonight,
you’ll really love it,
just buy the o and take it home tonight.
Such a deal.
OT:
Mets 2, Yankees 0.
The best shortstop in New York (sit down, Derek, no one is talking about you) drives in both runs.
Order is restored in the universe. Truth and justice prevail.
OK, letter O. Jeez… didn’t realize what kind of Sesame Street fanatics I was dealing with over here!
OT — for those of you who missed Bill Moyers and his comment on the calls for Libby pardon, Rawstory has the text here.
It’s a great read.
very kewl burns, I haven’t been paying attention the last couple of days and didn’t realize there was a Subway Series going on ;-)
greenwarrior @ 25
Hmm. Interesting, in two respects.
If reason has been so assaulted, do our kids and grandkids know the difference between fiction and non-fiction – let alone will future generations know what a fiction shelf was?
Or will the SOTU simply become extinct?
burnspbesq @ 29
And Steve Gilliard looked down from heaven and saw that it was good.
Everyone refresh the page.. part of the blockquote regarding the libraries’ budget got lost in the tubes but has been found and is now in its proper place.
Thanks for bringing back memories of entire days lost in books at the library. The librarians knew me by name and would have to tell me to leave, go home, and that it would be open again at 9:45 in the morning.
Peterr @ 9
Psst…Better than Crack!!! Excellent post earlier, Peterr! Nice job, DB!
I remember summers at the library. They would give us a diary thing to log the books that we read and they always had to staple extra pages in my mine. I was the kid who’d take a flash light to bed and read under the covers.
O! (Just a nickel?)
Well, if we’re talking Sesame Street, one of the favs I had when my girls were little is about the letter B.
To the tune of Three Blind Mice:
B is for Bubble
Bubble, bubble, bubble
B is for bubble in bubble gum
And B is for brother who gave me some
And B is better than any letter
For bubble gum
Dover Bitch @ 30
Back in the day, my dad was a graduate student with a fellowship working for the PBS station at the college. One day he said “there’s this new show that we just got at the station — why don’t you come in with me, and we’ll watch it together.”
I remember the big reels of video tape, and the monitors all over the room. But looking back on it now, I am astounded that I saw Sesame Street weeks before its official premiere. In advance of Father’s Day, let me just say “Thanks, Dad!”
Librarians and musicians. Don’t mess with either one.
demi @ 37
Me too! With the transitor radio on my pillow playing the top 40 softly (so no one would know) while I was up half the night finishing the book.
Other Bloomberg proposals I’m very excited about are the plans to charge $8 for cars entering Manhattan south of 96th St and the demand for a Hybrid taxi fleet.
These are very good examples of how local and regional entities can do an end run around the Gopers and their enablers in DC.
I read that book Tipping Point a few years ago and in it Gladwell talked quite a bit about Sesame Street and some show called Blue’s Clues. Interesting book… not sure I buy all of its conclusions, though.
Okay, Sesame Street fans. Does anyone else remember the movie “Follow That Bird”? A classic, to my mind and heart. There was a song…One little Star, …Do you shine on my someone, are you sharing your light, Oh, one little star, shine us all tonight.
Sometimes when I’m looking at the night sky, missing my daughter in DC, I actually sing that silly thing.
demi @ 37
I was caught at least once a week, for the very same ‘crime’! It took a toll on my first subject of the day’s grades! I still persisted tho!!! 8-)
CTuttle — thanks.
Were these librarians who resisted the administration women? Cuz that would explain it.
Uh, oh sexist alert.
Subway Serenade @ 41
The NY1 story about the budget was followed by a note about that $8 plan and implied that somebody in Albany (Silver?), who had killed Bloomberg’s stadium idea, would likely kill that, too.
Love the hybrid cab idea!!
Loo Hoo. @ 14
Laura Bush is to ‘Librarian’ what Florence Foster Jenkins is to a night at the Opera.
;>)
Suzanne, CTuttle
No surprise…makes sense. We’re ALL readers.
I got Gore’s book this week too!
One of my favorite moments in The Muppets Take Manhattan is when Kermit and Fozzie see Big Bird hitchhiking on the side of the road. They offer to give him a ride to Hollywood, but he says he’s going to New York to try and break into Public Television.
Scarecrow @ 31
Wow!
Here’s a taste . . . and it won’t even cost you a nickel:
Go check out the whole thing. Really. Thanks, Scarecrow!
NPB has Gore’s latest book and has been giving us small snippets of it during Late Late Nite lately. Assault on Reason is on my wish list.
Suzanne @ 40
I tried that one too, usually led to a bust! I had to hoard my allowance to buy batteries for my flashlight, they kept disappearing, or were inextricably dead when I would turn it on!!! *g*
Suzanne @ 52
Ditto.
Lea-no uh @ 50
Yes! I remember that. And, in the first Muppet movie, they pick up Gonzo who tells them he’s going to Bollywood in India to break into movies. And they ask him why not just go to Hollywood with them. He say’s Sure, if you want to do it the easy way!
O!
Who can forget Kermit singing Its Not Easy Being Green. A frog ahead of his time.
CTuttle @ 53
The trick is not to fall asleep while reading — that’ll keep the batteries from dying. Learned that the hard way, myself.
Anyone remember a PBS expose on the librarians confronted with the national security letters, but they were prevented from even discussing it. Saw it about two months ago.
I remember a library in the small town of Blackduck, Minnesota when I was a kid. So little money that the town had a bake sale to buy goods. My mom made really wonderful fudge. Alas, only part of it made it for the cause. My brothers and sisters and I kinda “lost” some of it on the way to the sale…
demi @ 43
I’m on dialup, but came across this YouTube link.
Scarecrow, wasn’t that a Frontline repeat of a couple years ago, when it was a timely topic?
Peterr @ 51
The American Librarians Association conference is next weekend in DC. Think good thoughts. They are unappreciated bulwarks of free speech and privacy.
Suzanne @ 56
Singing with Lena Horne . . . priceless.
Speaking of PBS kids’ programs, does anyone remember The Electric Company? I recall watching that in the classroom probably in 3rd grade, in small-town (at the time) Herndon, VA and thinking “wow!”
Peterr — it’s great to have Moyers back. My hope is that in 2009, he’s appointed by Gore to
clean house atrestore integrity to CPBOh, and I hadn’t been to my branch in years. Went back about 4 months ago. It’s amazing. I have the whole NYPL system available, can reserve on line, and the books are delivered to my local branch.
Who knew? Last time I was there it was just a little, underserved branch.
Peterr @ 57
Actually, My Mom and Grandma confessed to me rather recently that they would hunt it down and leave it on, while I was at school!!! Sneaky little buggers… *g*
The library was my safe haven. I was happier there than anywhere else.
Here’s an example of Gore using his vast knowledge of American History to make part of his argument, here explaining that the Founders deliberately intended for our government to be accessible to rich and poor alike:
LoudounLib @ 65
ZOOM!
which, IIRC, came right afterwards.
The Moyers comment was excellent. Now, why aren’t more people saying that on tv?
Any dems want to volunteer? Really, get to a mike and expose the madness. All we’re hearing is Kristol and Matlin and Fox news. C’mon dems, we can’t wait forever.
DB: Home Run!
My mom was an elementary school librarian, and I had my first library card at age 6!
Dover Bitch!
My first job was in a library.
(I have no idea why they paid me – I was there all the time anyway)
I love librarians – and libraries.
Darkness gathers: they shine.
Thank the public librarians of America (I’m a librarian, but not a public one)! They are soldiers of democracy, really.
Christine
jayackroyd — yes! Electric Co. for me was around ‘68 or so.
LoudounLib @ 65
It sounds a bit familiar . . .
HEY YOU GUYS!!!
We’re comin’ to your town.
We’re gonna bring you the power.
We’re gonna light up the dark of night
Like the brightest day
In a whole new way
We’re gonna turn it on . . .
Hi was born near Yankee Stadium . Did three gunbattles South Bronx and then some more as a New York City detective .I know New York so well and only miss the jazz in the Village and Harlem . Bye the way a old time conservative who detests neo cons and those Nazis Bush and Cheney.
John Rowland
Suzanne @ 61
Could be. This is good news; I’m only a two years behind.
I did TA in the jr high school library – not only did I get credit, I got to read in between checking out books and got dibs on all the new ones I wanted.
Read the entire biography section that year.
PeterR
You are a master of links….I’m going to go look for one now…
Dover Bitch @ 70
If I get hit by a truck tomorrow and end up in heaven by lunchtime, I want to sit down and hoist a few with old Ben. He would have loved the blogosphere!
I loved the midnight jazz concerts at Carneige Hall and the bar scene Manhattan . By bar scene do not mean chasing women just drinks .
John
sad kermit
Well…it is kinda sad, but I liked it. I hope it’s not too heavy for late night. Watch or save for later…
Peterr @ 82
I think Jefferson would have, as well.
LoudounLib @ 65
Yes! The Electric Company is great children’s television.
While I was putting this post together, I spent some time reading about how hard American librarians have been fighting against the oppressive PATRIOT Act. I only included one link, buy you can really devote an entire day to reading what librarians all around the country have been doing to keep records private. They really are the best.
Suzanne
Am I in Mod? Is it inappropriate for late nite?
Oy, it’s late, and oh-dark-thirty is looming…gotta work tomorrow :-( Good night all!
demi, i freed it, refresh… not sure why it got caught..
g’nite LL
demi @ 81
I don’t know about being a master of links. But when it comes to Sesame Street and children’s literature, Mrs. Peterr once accused me of choosing my dissertation topic so as to allow me to watch Kermit & Co and call it “research”.
Picked up my two English Lit. degrees while still a Bronx cop at CCNY. Then as a Bd.of Ed. teacher did Bklyn College for a grad and post grad in guidance . Did six as a teach and six as a cerified guidance counselor .Word of advice stay away from the Bronx it is still cooking off mucho crime .
John
Thanks Suzanne.
So, you’re up in Redwood Country?
I’ve got camping reservations for Big Basin in August.
Sonrisa :)
Dover Bitch @ 87
Another example from a 2006 ACLU letter on the librarians wrt to the Patriot Act and national security letters.
johnnyoooo @ 92
Welcome, John. Retired West Coast myself. Just so ya know, the “mail” asked for is your email address. Can you fix that please.
johnnyoooo @ 78
Welcome, John! Always room here for someone who was on the job.
demi, big basin is just outside the town i live in. keep in touch and if i’m still here (think I will be), we will have to hook up
Benjamin Franklin is my favorite founder. I cannot believe that kind of genious.
I’ve been trying to find another passage in Assault on Reason that stood out to me, but I cannot seem to find it. So I’ll paraphrase:
Gore made an excellent distinction between an America that craves dominance in the world and an America that seeks preeminence in the world. I think this is probably the most significant point in the book, at least in terms of foreign policy. Gore does a great job explaining why dominance is un-American and, ultimately, unattainable.
Suzanne @ 98
Sounds good to me. We’re starting at Point Dume and then comin’ up to the big red ones! I’ll buy ya a beer or tea or whatever you’re drinking.
Scarecrow @ 95
I’m a huge fan of the ALA’s Banned Books Week. Buy your books now, and don’t wait for Sept 29 to Oct 6 — they may be gone by then!
hmmm coffee with demi
Y’all zedded an hour too early !
demi @ 101
demi, hope you have a great trip!
As you go north La Jolla Valley across from the entrance to Thornhill Broom (?sp) State Beach (where all the RV’s hang out just south of Point Mugu) has the nicest hike I know for day trippers in the Santa Monicas.
Views, ponds, Native middens, peaks, relict pre-Columbian bunchgrass prairies…
Campsites! (bring water – or be happy with filters for the pond :)
works great
…and..well…campsites - take the left at the pond, after the tunnels of ceanothus - are after a 2(ish) mile / few hundred feet (in/up) hike…
but so much safer from PCH dangers ;)
IIRC, Santa Cruz County librarians were among the first in the country to raise the objections to the provisions of the Patriot Act and refused to become snitches for the boosh administration.
Evening, gang.
How’s everything?
Suzanne @ 103
That’s a good name for a morning show!
TRex @ 107
Having fun tonight?
I was one of the Conservative Party’s first Bronx Committeemen and truly detest Bush and his neo con Nazis . But disagree with almost all your other Left Wing stuff . But at least one common ground I detest Bush and that whole crew and yes I detest Fox News too. I am more a G.K.Chesterton-Hilaire Belloc type conservative .
John
TRex @ 106
Everything is Friday.
TRex, DB hit another home run… 107 comments in one hour and we are remembering times spent under the covers with flashlights.
I wrote about banned books last Sept. Our school library had a whole display of them.
“Demi’s Tasse”
How’s that for a show name?
Dover Bitch @ 100
{{scribbling madly on next week’s library list}}
That is a powerful set of contrasting images.
*sigh*
I really, really, really would like a president who can speak in complete sentences.
Hiya TRex!!!
Suzanne @ 103
How cool you two! I want a report.
johnnyoooo @ 109
John, I’m a lifelong republican and they even let me behind the backstage curtain. I’m the Late Nite Moderator so I just changed from one form of policing to another :)
TRex @ 107
I called your bro yesterday, he never called me back, the punk!
Peterr@102 -
I’m a huge fan of the ALA’s Banned Books Week. Buy your books now, and don’t wait for Sept 29 to Oct 6 — they may be gone by then! My students and I talk about the 1st Amendment and have a debate about banning books that week. I have them divide themselves according to whether or not they believe it’s ok to ban books and then have them take turns talking about it. I never have to say anything…the pro-banners always move to the other side by the end.
Peterr @ 115
I must admit… while reading this book, there were times I could actually hear Gore’s drawl pouring off the pages.
johnnyoooo @ 109
Stick around, we love a good clash of ideas here. It’s nice to know there are still some people around who know that “conservative principles” wasn’t always an oxymoron.
TRex,
You betcha…walkin’ down Sesame Street Dream Lane.
My campsite fits 8 and we’re only 3 coming. So, I can accomodate 5 more…
That’s an invitation!
We’re going to take the 13 year old to Montery Bay Aquarium and the Santa Cruz Boardwalk.
johnnyoooo @ 110
What do you disagree with us about, John? Give us the opportunity to explain.
Suzanne, you are a republican? For real? Why?
Suzanne @ 103
I think it will cost you $1,000,000.
I want to see that Nancy Drew movie. That was one of the first things I ever learned to read. My dad would read me and my brother a chapter each night, and the chapters in those books always have these cliffhanger endings, “…and the car was speeding STRAIGHT TOWARD THE CLIFF!” DUN-DUN-DUNNNNNN!!!
And then he’s tell us goodnight and turn off the lights, leaving behind the book and a flashlight, and that was how we learned to read, “What happened next? What’s it say? Did the car go off the cliff?”
Very smart of my dad, I think. We could read Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys books before we turned five.
Peterr @ 115
We got one. “See, I’m the decider.”
TRex @ 114
It’s fantastic. And thanks for the new handle. Funny, in a former marriage, my last name was Bissell. (yiddish for a little bit) When cable tv was in it’s infancy, a produced a show and called it A Bissell production.
Demi, Bissell. I’m feeling diminutive.
BASTARD!!
Hey, I copied you an Eli CD today. I’m going to put it into an envelope right now.
TRex @ 127
Excellent!
Cassie, Republican wasn’t always a dirty word. I’m probably considered liberal now but back in the day, there really was a moderate position that was moderate. The definitions have changed so far to the right that middle of the road is left now.
demi @ 123
I don’t know about the SC Boardwalk, but my five year old would like to move into the MB aquariaum!
Bye the way Firedoglake and Jane and gang do a great job keeping me updated on Herr Bush and that four time felon Libby .Guess you know as a New York City detective if Ii pulled down four felony counts time I would do more then thirty months and would have deserved it too .
John
Speaking of Monterey, the Blues Festival is this weekend.
demi, this year is the 100th year of the Santa Cruz Boardwalk and they kicked off the summer celebration tonight.
SnarKassandra @ 124
Poor Cassie — she’s too young to remember when we had two functioning political parties, instead of one dysfunctional family and one authoritarian cult.
Just teasing, Cassie. I was 28 before I was as mature as you seem to be at 15.
TRex @ 130
Thanks! I’m really looking forward to hearing it.
Dover Bitch @ 135
I mean, next weekend.
TRex @ 127
Wow! I remember my sister could read “The Bobsey Twins” by that age, but I wasn’t even close. Very impressive.
As a kid, I tried to read fiction in the described “Adult Fiction” (he he, don’t laugh — it was the 60’s) and found “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn.” Shocked! A father would leave his family? Well, I was such an innocent.
Rayne @ 20
OK, I love libraries, I love librarians (I live with one) but the kind of librarian who asks a kid why s/he’s checking any book out doesn’t belong in a library. The ALA is specifically against that practice because it’s censorship. In most systems a parent can put certain holds on a child’s library card, it is NOT the librarian’s place to do so. I have a personal beef from my long ago childhood about the trauma I used to have with my local library trying to check out adult books! The summer I turned 11, the sitter would drop me at the library when it opened (and take my siblings to the swimming pool) and Mom picked me up on the way home from work. Mind, I started reading at 4, read Shakespeare’s plays at age 6, Hemingway and Faulkner at 8, and by 10 had finished all the books in the house (Dad was an English teacher). The library was my lifeline, but every day I had to play hide and seek with the librarian trying to sneak into the “adult” books and find something to read. I would hide behind the stacks with my illicit Alexander Dumas, Ellery Queen and Ian Fleming. When Mom got there, she would check it all out for me because the librarian would never let me check them out, even though Mom told her it was fine. I remember my horror when the librarian tried to make me read Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys! Luckily I eventually found the fairy tales, Lewis Carroll, Tolkein and A Wrinkle in Time, or I never would have survived study hall in 6th grade.
Montery! Road Trip!
Damn, I remember when I would take off on a whim for something like that.
Diminutive and getting older by the minute.
johnnyoooo @ 133
John, as Moderator, I need you to fix an error in your registration. We need an email address where it says “Mail”, not the city. Thanks.
I lived by the ocean in Belle Harbor ,Queens, N.Y. Was a body surfer and long distance swimmer . Now West Palm, Florida but still long distance in ocean .
John
johnnyoooo @ 134
That right there sums up the attraction of FDL. Some of the regulars are hard core, way left, “don’t trust anyone over 30″ folks; others are more tree hugger, “save the whales” folks; and still others are like you. What brings us together is a sense of respect for the rule of law, concern for the constitution, and an abiding passion for “We, the people.”
In all the messy forms that that takes.
Welcome!
So what is everyone listening to tonight?
I just put on the new CD by Joey Calderazzo, the pianist in Branford Marsalis’ band. So far, I am realllllllly liking it.
johnnyoooo @ 134
John, apparently you are forgetting how special Scooter Libby is. Rules no aplicar. Just ask Albert. Rules and laws get kinda fuzzy in Bushworld.
Yoo Hoo Loo Hoo
Did we loose you?
burnspbesq @ 147
My cousin is still up and he is watching South Park, which he;s not supposed to, and I am listening to that but it’s really stupid.
burnspbesq @ 147
Vic Thrill.
I’m 55 and I love South Park!
Hope I corrected my registration .
John
Vincula @ 142
Sneaking into the adult stacks . . .
Ah, you bring back memories.
... pant … wheeze … wow, I finally made it through 140 plus comments … I wouldn’t have taken so long had I not stopped to sing those great songs from Sesame Street.
Evenin’ all !!!
KPIG is what I’m listening to, same as every night, Cassie.
Hello Petro!
Petrocelli @ 155
I was wondering what that sound was.
Petrocelli @ 155
C is for Cookie
Petrocelli,
The other day, when I was going to take a nap (and finally did) you asked if George Clooney was here. James commented I sure hope not..or something like that.
My husband was out of town and that night I asked him, hey you weren’t on FDL were you? He wasn’t. Ha! But, I did wonder.
I worked the John Gotti crowd for mamy years with FBI buddies from their Queens Office . Gotti lived in my 106 Command . Worked all the ballplayers you saw in the movie ” Goodfellas “
Dover Bitch @ 159
That one was my favorite!!
TRex @ 127
The trailers from that movie make me want to run away. In the books, Nancy was contemporary, up to date, and smart. In the trailers, she’s a fuddy-duddy, way out of date, and dweebish.
I haven’t seen this movie, but there’s a special circle of hell reserved for movie makers who ruin good books.
I’m just saying.
Suzanne @ 155
I remember when there was good radio …
Friday nights listening to WNEW-FM. Jonathan Schwartz and then Alison Steele, the Night Bird. And if you made to 2:00 a.m., Vin Scelsa.
Man, I’m so old.
OT, yes, but I do love to see them eating their own…
Peterr @ 154
More! More! I love libraries.
johnnyoooo @ 161
There’s a regular around FDL known as Looseheadprop, NYC lawyer, rugby player . . . you may know her.
SnarKassandra @ 162
Was?
Was?
Ahem.
I believe you are looking for the present tense, SK.
Loo Hoo. @ 140
This kid comes home from his first day of school, crying.
Dad asks, “What’s wrong?”
The kid replies, “The teacher scolded me because I couldn’t spell Cow.”
Furious, Dad goes to the school the next day and demands to see the teacher.
“Why did you scold my son … a Cow is such a large animal, how would he know to spell it!”
The teacher was too dumbstruck to speak.
Dad went on, “Next time, do not ask him to spell the name of such a large animal, try something smaller … like mosquito !!!”
johnnyoooo @ 152
Perfect, thanks John :)
demi @ 160
LOL !!!
The women in the theatre were droolin’ so much over Pitt & Clooney, I had to swim home !!! *g*
Dear DB,
Thanks for this! I’m gonna send a copy to my brother, who is a Librarian. Maybe a few other Librarians that I know, too. My brother doesn’t read FDL, but maybe this will encourage him!
Bob in HI
Scarecrow @ 158
If it sounded like a moose during the rut … that’s me singin’ ! *g*
Another flashback to Sesame Street
Imagine Bill O’Reilly singing:
The Grouch Anthem
sung by Oscar the Grouch (Carroll Spinney)
and The Grouch Chorus
Announcer: Please rise for the Grouch Anthem.
Oscar: No, no, no. For the Grouch Anthem, you stay sitting down.
Down in front there! Now brace yourself, I’m gonna sing:
Grouches of the world unite!
Stand up for your grouchly rights!
Don’t let the sunshine spoil the rain
Just stand up and complain (heheheh)
Let this be the grouches’ cause:
Point out everybody’s flaws!
Something is wrong with everything
Except the way I sing!
(Cue Grouch Choir ooing in the background)
Spoken:
You know what’s right with this world? Nuttin!
You know what gets me hot under the collar? You name it!
And the next time some goody-two-shoes smiles and tells you to have a nice day, just remember:
Sung:
Don’t let the sunshine spoil the rain,
Just stand up and complain!
Just stand up and complain!
Peterr@146
That right there sums up the attraction of FDL. Some of the regulars are hard core, way left, “don’t trust anyone over 30″ folks; others are more tree hugger, “save the whales” folks; and still others are like you. What brings us together is a sense of respect for the rule of law, concern for the constitution, and an abiding passion for “We, the people.”
Only one bone of contention; “don’t trust anyone over 30″, that is so Sixties, I would say the 50 crowd is the new 30’s demographic!!! :P
My favorite IS the munumuna song. And Rubber Ducky.
Dover Bitch @ 159
My fav Sesame Street character was Cookie Monster. He was so exuberant … I think that’s why, even if I’m teaching meditation to a pain in the *ss client, I still remain exuberant like Cookie monster, as if at any moment, cookies will start falling from the sky.
Petrocelli @ 177
COOOKKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I liked Oscar the Grouch. Like seeks like :)
My bad…it’s Mahna mahna
My favourite Sesame Street character was Grover. He was so sweet.
Bob Schacht @ 172
Alright. Let him know how appreciated librarians are.
johnnyoooo @ 110
What an interesting life you have had ! I think maybe you are more liberal than you know. :)
Petrocelli @ 173
Folks, if you’ve ever had the ‘pleasure’ of seeing a Moose courtship, it ain’t pretty!!! Evening, Petro!!!
I used to sneak books and go read them in a quiet corner of the library after school. But now I don’t. I didn’t ask the librarian for them. I learned the numbers and how to find the ones I wanted.
I found the Letter O segment.
I also remember liking the construction worker puppet who lost his [saw sound effect] and also couldn’t find his [drill sound], etc…
What used to be middle of the road is now considered liberal. Pisses me off because I really am a bit of both liberal and conservative and neither “label” as defined nowadays is accurate.
And the Other really cool thing about those early Sesame Street shows were all of the great guest stars. Smokey Robinson…Stevie Wonder.
And the counting song…1 2, …NINE, ten. That was Grace Slick!
Suzanne @ 18
I, as editor, have always loved librarians, especially research librarians, who did so much work for me. (kitty is eating and I am much encouraged.)
One of my favorite Sesame Street moments is a visit from a young black preacher. The kids are gathered on the steps of 123 Sesame Street, and he starts a call-and-response with them:
I am.
I am.
Somebody.
Somebody. . .
Twenty years later, that young preacher had thousands of folks repeating after him at the democratic national convention.
Just got through watching Washington Week In Review on PBS out here on the West Coast.
It’s like watching a high school student govt. meeting.
The Moyers show rocked OTOH. He’s pulled his lense out a bit, showing us a larger sense of values.
CTuttle @ 175
I thought we were here for the beers !!! *g*
Who needs group think when you can have group drink !!! *g*
Suzanne @ 187
You said it, Suzanne. Labels are not only fleeting, but they always mean different things to different people. I always reject them.
CTuttle @ 184
Aloha CT !!!
Suzanne @ 187
I prefer ‘Progressive’, rather than Liberal, more fudge room!!! ;-)
I remember when Dad decided I couldn’t stay up late to read anymore. He not only turned out the light, he TOOK THE LIGHTBULB. So I decided I could read by the streetlight outside, if i just sat in the windowsill, behind the drapes. Well, I had just found Psycho hidden under my parent’s bed and figured I didn’t want him to know I was reading it anyway. So it’s 2 or 3 in the morning, I’ve just read my first horror novel and scared myself to death and I have to walk across the bedroom floor in total darkness! Scariest minute of my life.
Bill Clinton’s been on C-SPAN right now speaking to the National Partnership for Women & Families talking sense on universal health care. It would be a good video to use in public discussions on health care.
Bob in HI
Petrocelli @ 192
Prost!!! As long as we’re ‘Drinking Liberally’!!! 8-)
Evening Petrocelli!
Bob Schacht @ 197
Watch it. Bubba was awesome.
Sigh, I love you guys — wish I ever had a response.
Christine Edmonson @ 201
What was your question, Christine?
Christine Edmonson @ 201
Hey. Welcome in!
The South Park on now had a grown man that wants his dad to molest him so he’s gonna sleep in his underwear. How can people think that is funny?
Christine Edmonson @ 201
No Worries, Ma’am! Just look at Petro’s feeble attempts!!! Bwhahaha!!! Jez Joshing, Petro!!! *g*
Loo Hoo. @ 199
Hey Loo Hoo … I was over at youtube listening to manna manna … *g*
SnarKassandra @ 204
Wisdom. Ya gotta love this place.
SnarKassandra @ 204
How come the people who come up with that stuff are being paid money, and more money is spent producing such misguided sick phantasies?
Not a question, but just a celebration of librarians in general. Love this cite, but intimidated by the power of the membership. I’m just a mere art librarian who works like crazy every day. And love this place.
Christine
Petrocelli @ 206
That was you hogging all the bandwidth.
mulligatawny @ 208
And the commercial is for “Girls Gone Wild”. I told him to shut it off or else I am putting on one of my movies instead.
darkblack @ 48
SnarKassandra @ 204
The thing about comedy is context. You can’t just take a scene out of the whole picture and get an answer. Those Canadian Guys are sacreligous. Anyone see Team America?
Hi folks – epu’d…
kirk murphy @ 84
Norm should be proud – and I want to help.
SF is proud of all relationships – and we’re behind the Senator.
So long as he’d like us there.
Those who wish to help turn the tide of public tolerance for Norm and his partners can sing out.
Those Norm has best known shall help us best know Norm.
Join us, we beseech you!
[uhh - text/vid only, OK?]
And those who know Norm and his partners – and saw them rubbing up against the “traditonal values” bump on the pole dance for power -
You shining lights…..
Illuminate us
[or relay: kmurphy a* riseup do* ne*]
Public figures face very high standards for defamation.
Norm’s partners: share the love.
Tell us the tickles.
No one deserves defamation, Senator Norm.
Celebrate love and pleasure (adult, consensual…natch).
So why do you…
HATE GAYS?
HATE GAYS = GOP subtext x 30 years.
_ _ _ _
Senator:
A few questions…
not to worry…
Relax.
goood…huuuh?
yes.
see…we love you…
they’ll love you, too…
the more they see you
so much love!
let’s bring out your votes, Mr. 100.
Senator, San Francisco is behind you.
In front of you.
Whatever.
We’re easy.
We’re waiting – breathless.
Through our mouths, anyway.
Just the way the powerful men like us to bind them.
Senator, go for it.
We’re here to help.
Mmmm.
Knowledge IS power. Libraries bring power to the people – ALL people.
Thanks for this post.
mhpcr @ 189
The closest I came to Nirvana as a child was when I got a library and was told I could read as many books as I wish … for free !!!
Whenever I talk to kids, I try to impress upon them the importance of reading … knowledge is power.
Christine Edmonson @ 209
mere! That’s my favorite kind!
Christine Edmonson @ 209
How can anyone who is an art librarian think of themselves as a “mere” someone? I’m in awe.
CTuttle @ 205
… doing Curly’s vigorous hand motions in front of CTuttle’s face … *g*
Dover Bitch @ 10
I wonder if the electorate thinks Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would be a good team. After all they’re both Democrats and have worked in the White House and are well known? Why wouldn’t they be nearly identical as politicians?
Is there really any difference?
Scarecrow @ 218
I totally know what you mean, but it’s not as intimidating at Late Nite. We’re doing Sesame Street songs tonight. You’re doing just fine!
Petrocelli @ 219
N’yuck, yuck!!! :P
Petrocelli @ 216
Agreed. And I also try to tell them to learn other languages. Our school system grooms people to be specialists… your college resume looks better with four or five years of a language. But I always recommend to young people that they take a few years of as many languages as they can. Two years of Spanish, a couple years of French… Latin if it is offered.
Being able to communicate with people from all around the world is a tremendous gift. Young people have a great opportunity if they know to take advantage of it!
Bill Moyers is the best TV and print journalist of our generation. It’s a shame he isn’t a household name in America.
PBS has very little influence on national discourse. Bill Moyers should be on a major news channel and writing for a major paper. Oh wait, these “news” outlets do not exist to find truth and inform the electorate. They exist to sway public opinion. Spend so much getting news from the Internet, I almost forgot that…
MarkH @ 220
Are you joking – maybe I missed that, am kind of slow today. Neither one would be VeePee.
SnarKassandra @ 204
I don’t like South Park all the time, but I appreciate the way they approach so many topics.
I remember when The Simpson’s began, I was the only one among my friends who watched it … it was considered asinine … but I could appreciate the way Matt and Co. portrayed life.
I thought The Simpson’s was more lifelike than any other sitcom. I love the way South Park goes after anyone who tries to restrict their first amendment rights (Cruise’s church).
Kirk,
A little context would help.
Scarecrow @ 218
Big kisses to you! Yes, a long slog, but with many people who really care about democracy.
Christine
OT, but very cool:
Look who’s on the Queen’s Birthday Honors List.
That’s Sir Salman Rushdie to you, commoner.
newtonusr @ 210
Sorry, newtonusr … trying to find hockey clips … suffering withdrawals … *g*
Lawrence Tribe, the famous Constitutional Law Professor, on CSPAN now talking about Alberto Gonzales!
Bob in HI
Upstairs:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..on-my-man/
mhpcr @ 212
LoudounLib @ 65
I loved that show. Years later, so did my firstborn. I can still sing the song…
Bob Schacht @ 231
Quotes please … I’ve been dying to hear a Constitutional lawyer speak on Abu.
[peterr, thanks for your gentle prompt
(no snark intended :)
…my goof…]
omitted from 214
at the very start of the comment…
that it was to frame…
sigh…
TRex has a new thread.
Petrocelli @ 230
Sigh, another cupless season for O’Canada, the drought persists… Summer league play starts soon, tho!!! ;-)
CTuttle @ 238
Ottawa played their best against Buffalo, then had nothing for the finals. I don’t know if the long break in between did them in.
Of course in Toronto, the Leafs didn’t even make it to the playoffs. We’ll just have to gnash our teeth until October. *g*
Suzanne @ 187
That’s why it’s so important to know the candidates individually and don’t let the media pigeon-hole them and label them their way. All they care about is whether a candidate will kowtow to corporate interests. To them everything else is Liberal Commie.
I love the movie The Matrix. In it Trinity tells Neo that his new understanding of the matrix tells us is’s us who defines who we are, not THEM. In politics WE define what we are or believe or want our government to be. If we don’t we’re just mind slaves and we’re doomed.
That leads me to ask a simple important question: what’s the difference between Giuliani, Clinton and Obama?
BTW, Suzanne, who would you like to be our next president? Someone like Chuck Hagel or more lefty like Gore?
mulligatawny @ 225
Do ya think the public knows the difference? Just so long as their favorite soap is playing in the White House…
Christine Edmonson @ 228
Thank you so much! We are the third largest art library in the United States — can you believe it?
Christine Edmonson @ 242
Which library is that?
The Cleveland Museum of Art
Christine Edmonson @ 244
Ah, wow, I didn’t realize! I’ll have to stop in the next time I go to Michigan from the Erie area. Cleveland does have a great Museum.
My sister is a librarian in Glen Ellyn, Illinois. She had to do a lot of flying back and forth from Chicago to NY a few years ago when our parents were dying, and, every time she flew, she got the full search treatment. Every damn time! I can only think that this had to be because librarians are on the government’s shit list.
I’m gonna go back and read all the comments, but I want to throw out an idea for supporting our local libraries, cleaning house, and promoting a point of view. I love to buy books when they come out. It’s a family vice. (Along with reading any gift book before wrapping.) Once your immediate family has read the new books, take them to the library. Librarians are usually pleased to have an extra copy of current books or one they couldn’t afford. If your library is well financed, look to small towns in your area with stretched budgets.