uno?

Dos

I thought the “Bush surge” in Iraq was supposed to reduce violence:

I don’t think they ever said that. They want hegemony regardless of how many brown people die.

Troops home now!

I just popped in. I have to go back and read the earlier post. Dakine, we need to talk. I stopped by Gruene Hall yesterday. The brunch is $25! Betsy and I are cooking up a cheap and better alternative. Let me know how to contact you individually.

Of course, in the (has to be) drug induced parallel universe inhabited by The Chimpenfuhrer, Darth, HoJo et al, more violence against the troops means the surge is working. Just as less violence against the troops would mean the surge is working. Whatever HAPPENS means the surge is working. Which is why Gen Betrayus can say in June that he knows he will report in September that progress is being made so we have to stay there so more troops can be killed or injured.

whack-a-mole indeed…We must keep screaming Firepups!

Thanks Christy.

A reduction in violence proves that the surge is working.
An increase in violence proves that the surge is working.
Your point, Christy?

P.S. Is it September yet?

“What a mess” What a tragedy is more like it!

How about crimes against humanity! Yet most Americans are happy not to see blown up and dead, injured and displace Iraqi people. This is a ethno/-centric war taking place. The U.S.’s Sabra and Shatilla. We created an enviroment where a genocide could take place!

yawn is the response!

Gnome de Plume @ 5

I just popped in. I have to go back and read the earlier post. Dakine, we need to talk. I stopped by Gruene Hall yesterday. The brunch is $25! Betsy and I are cooking up a cheap and better alternative. Let me know how to contact you individually.

Yeah I saw that myself when I checked online. It was a bit of a surprise. Are you on facebook? Ms Betsy is I believe and can get to my e-mail or send a message through that. Otherwise, I guess I can spell it all out phonetically, it would just take some time…

CNN is reporting that the Libby defense will run right over to the DC CoA with a motion for an emergency stay of sentencing if Walton doesn’t allow Libby out on bail pending appeals.

OK, I’m back. From Habeas Corpus to Corpses. Some days I wish I didn’t care and could just merrily go along with everything being fed to me.

dratty@11

Scooting for Scooter?

Thank you Christy

may I add Wolcott’s bleak view
Apocalypse Now in 3-D

…
Democrats and Republicans and the elite media alike are acting as if America’s continuing presence in Iraq is predicated on national will, on an elaborate, tortured, tortuous decision-making process that will either extricate us from Iraq or establish a permanent footprint; that the final outcome is up to us. But what [William S.] Lind, Larry C. Johnson, and Timothy Garton Ash perceive is that the groundwar dynamics have shifted into endgame gear, outracing the rhetorical cornmeal of a Lieberman or McCain and raising alarms that the political-media establishment is refusing to heed. What will it take for their hair to catch fire?

there’s a lot more there.
[my bold]

Pach - If you have some time to kill, there’s a solution for your sticky keyboard.

Dakine, I am not in facebook, but Betsy is, and we are in communication, so if you could get your e-mail to her, then you would be in the loop. Also LS is close by. We need to invite her plus a couple folks who are in Austin as well as any Firepups traveling through the area.

FROGMARCH……….

I have a question for the lawyers here. What does it take form someone to be disbarred based on arguments they advocate on behalf of their clients. Can Gonzales be disbarred for ignoring habeas corpus? Can Yoo be disbarred for his advocation of torture? Can private citizens ask the state/federal bars to investigate a lawyer? I’m just curious what the process is.

This is Sen. Mike Gravel’s legislation and legislative strategy to get all of the troops home from Iraq before Christmas.

Sen. Gravel’s plan

Thanks for the scoop about the timing of the Libby/Walton hearing on the issue of whther there are any “close” questions on appeal. I’m looking forward to your coverage and commentary.

I think the President said the goal of the surge was to not lose while he is still preznet and to teach our news reporters that not every explosion should end up on the nightly news.

dratty @ 11

CNN is reporting that the Libby defense will run right over to the DC CoA with a motion for an emergency stay of sentencing if Walton doesn’t allow Libby out on bail pending appeals.

That Libby Defense Fund that those connected at their roots contributed to sure comes in handy when you want to trump the justice system!

Another must read on Christy’s point: William Lind yesterday on the counterproductive indicator of the increase in Air Force bombings:

Nothing could testify more powerfully to the failure of U.S. efforts on the ground in Iraq than a ramp-up in airstrikes. Calling in air is the last, desperate, and usually futile action of an army that is losing. If anyone still wonders whether the “surge” is working, the increase in air strikes offers a definitive answer: it isn’t.

Worse, the growing number of air strikes shows that, despite what the Marines have accomplished in Anbar province and General Petraeus’s best efforts, our high command remains as incapable as ever of grasping Fourth Generation war. To put it bluntly, there is no surer or faster way to lose in 4GW than by calling in airstrikes. It is a disaster on every level. Physically, it inevitably kills far more civilians than enemies, enraging the population against us and driving them into the arms of our opponents. Mentally, it tells the insurgents we are cowards who only dare fight them from 20,000 feet in the air. Morally, it turns us into Goliath, a monster every real man has to fight. So negative are the results of air strikes in this kind of war that there is only one possible good number of them: zero (unless we are employing the “Hama model,” which we are not).

We can’t leave.
We can’t stay.
We CAN lose our soldiers…
What are we fighting for? Absolutely nothing
(sound like Viet Nam?)
The Bushies are idiots and MUST be impeached

Thank you Thank you FDL team. You are true patriots!

Sorta on Topic. Last night I saw Keith’s standin (don’t know name) interviewing Richard Wolffe on KO and got seriously annoyed. Wolffe always seems to lean in support of “waiting” for the surge to work/or not work. He castigates Reid for introducing measures so early after the other failed. Believes Reid should wait until September. Again Wolffe implies this is all politics on the Dem side, but politics are all he offers in rebuttal. Wolffe always believes anything the Congress does benefits Chimpy and that congressional dems are taking the wrong political direction. He can’t seem to connect politics to body count and troops trapped in Iraq. A poll was brought up that stated that approval of Congress was less than Chimpy’s approval ratings, 23% as opposed to 28% (?) KO’s standin: so is the honeymoon over for Congress. Wolffe: Oh definitely over, nada, nada, nada. Richard Wolffe, Newsweek. He is a smug bastard.

allan_in_upstate @ 15

Pach - If you have some time to kill, there’s a solution for your sticky keyboard.

no more doughnuts for you todaaaaaaaay Paaaaaaaaaaach ;->

dakine01:

I see you’ve been racking up the zeds lately.

Why do I have this sickening thought
that Reggie will release Libby on bail?

Does anybody know WTF Specter is up to with his negotiations with the WH on the subpoenas? Josh is covering it.

Go Pach!!!

Kinda nice weather here in DC — for this time of year, neh?

Maybe you can amble across the street to the National Gallery

Gnome de Plume @ 12

OK, I’m back. From Habeas Corpus to Corpses. Some days I wish I didn’t care and could just merrily go along with everything being fed to me.

nah gah happen, for u or us.
u know that.

at least we have eachother at the Lake.
hang on! ;->

Today is the day that will close up one loop for me at FDL. FDL’s coverage of Judith Miller/Plamegate brought me here sometime in the spring of 2006. Scooter needs to go to prison today.

I look forward to the live blogging… thanks

Playing whack-a-mole with a 20% larger foam bat IS guaranteed success!

mui @ 25

Sorta on Topic. Last night I saw Keith’s standin (don’t know name) interviewing Richard Wolffe on KO and got seriously annoyed. Wolffe always seems to lean in support of “waiting” for the surge to work/or not work. He castigates Reid for introducing measures so early after the other failed. Believes Reid should wait until September. Again Wolffe implies this is all politics on the Dem side, but politics are all he offers in rebuttal. Wolffe always believes anything the Congress does benefits Chimpy and that congressional dems are taking the wrong political direction. He can’t seem to connect politics to body count and troops trapped in Iraq. A poll was brought up that stated that approval of Congress was less than Chimpy’s approval ratings, 23% as opposed to 28% (?) KO’s standin: so is the honeymoon over for Congress. Wolffe: Oh definitely over, nada, nada, nada. Richard Wolffe, Newsweek. He is a smug bastard.

Me too!! I want to scream every time Richard Wolff comes on (and it’s usually every night). He goes out of his way to say that anything the Dems do is doomed to fail and Bush is always going to get his way.

What a useless tool!!

Ferd @ 34

Playing whack-a-mole with a 20% larger foam bat IS guaranteed success!

Bahahaha. A laugh, amid the grisly truth.

dratty @ 11

CNN is reporting that the Libby defense will run right over to the DC CoA with a motion for an emergency stay of sentencing if Walton doesn’t allow Libby out on bail pending appeals.

What’s the emergency? Is the Hudson Institute contriving WMD evidence for a war with Iran?

Robust conventional nuclear ordinance would take out the mole.

Bay State Librul @ 28

Why do I have this sickening thought
that Reggie will release Libby on bail?

I thought it was almost certain that Libby was going to get time to “get his affairs in order” before he had to report?

dratty @ 11

CNN is reporting that the Libby defense will run right over to the DC CoA with a motion for an emergency stay of sentencing if Walton doesn’t allow Libby out on bail pending appeals.

Wow, that’s really just…pathetic. And I wouldn’t be surprised either.

Neil @ 37

dratty @ 11

CNN is reporting that the Libby defense will run right over to the DC CoA with a motion for an emergency stay of sentencing if Walton doesn’t allow Libby out on bail pending appeals.

What’s the emergency? Is the Hudson Institute contriving WMD evidence for a war with Iran?

Or do they know that it’s a done deal..

Well, since the president is so incredibly stupid, I am not surprised.

It takes some brains to learn the most basic lesson we teachers pound into our students: quality NOT quantity

Sigh. He-will-never-get-it.

Reminds me of a student who tried to tell me that he didn’t understand why he was having problems with grammar in Latin class since he did so well in his English course the previous summer at Oxford (England). . . as it turns out, his English course was on Shakespeare and his plays.

I responded that the grammar and syntax of Shakespeare was not the same as that of modern English or Classical Latin.

I resisted the urge to tell him that my then 2.5 year old daughter knew a lot of impressive words and could use them correctly but that didn’t mean she understood the grammar!

In retrospect, that fact he was trying to bludgeon me with the superiority of his Oxford education should have allowed me to be petty. Having gone to Duke and having taught at Yale I know better than to assume that the quality of the professor/class can be assessed merely by the name of the school.

And that brings us back to GWB…Yale…ring cycle…thinking too much…

Pach, small typo in your last paragraph:

increasinly violent sectarian pockets

Just so you can get it right before the MSM picks it up.

The war is lost. What happens next do we blow up Iran’s nukes as we leave as a going away present to Israel? How and what will Israel do about the Palestian situation after we leave? Can Israel count on continued American support for their economy and if so how much longer. For the record I support Israel I just want them to treat Palestians fair.

things come undone @ 44

The war is lost. What happens next do we blow up Iran’s nukes as we leave as a going away present to Israel? How and what will Israel do about the Palestian situation after we leave? Can Israel count on continued American support for their economy and if so how much longer. For the record I support Israel I just want them to treat Palestians fair.

I’ve been waiting for someone to blame the Hamas-Fatah deal in Israel.

allan_in_upstate @ 8

A reduction in violence proves that the surge is working.
An increase in violence proves that the surge is working.
Your point, Christy?

P.S. Is it September yet?

It will be September in March.

name1 @ 19

This is Sen. Mike Gravel’s legislation and legislative strategy to get all of the troops home from Iraq before Christmas.

Sen. Gravel’s plan

I saw Mike Gravel at DemFest and it made sense to me. (Being introduced by Granny D was a feather in his cap, I assure you.) As did the Edwards plan . I don’t yet comprehend his plan on replacing the income tax with a national sales tax, however.

Howard Dean won’t be at YK. (Nya Nya.) Make better choices, people.

mui @ 25

Sorta on Topic. Last night I saw Keith’s standin (don’t know name) interviewing Richard Wolffe on KO and got seriously annoyed. Wolffe always seems to lean in support of “waiting” for the surge to work/or not work. He castigates Reid for introducing measures so early after the other failed. Believes Reid should wait until September. Again Wolffe implies this is all politics on the Dem side, but politics are all he offers in rebuttal. Wolffe always believes anything the Congress does benefits Chimpy and that congressional dems are taking the wrong political direction. He can’t seem to connect politics to body count and troops trapped in Iraq. A poll was brought up that stated that approval of Congress was less than Chimpy’s approval ratings, 23% as opposed to 28% (?) KO’s standin: so is the honeymoon over for Congress. Wolffe: Oh definitely over, nada, nada, nada. Richard Wolffe, Newsweek. He is a smug bastard.

Tax the media to pay for the war their lousy reporting helped create.

tommy yum @ 46

allan_in_upstate @ 8

A reduction in violence proves that the surge is working.
An increase in violence proves that the surge is working.
Your point, Christy?

P.S. Is it September yet?

It will be September in March.

Of which year?

yestidie, our normally rather sensible Akron Beacon Journal chose, for gawdonlyknows whut reason, to print an absolutely loony op-ed by Kevin Ferris, of the Philly Inquirer,
title: “Why the U.S. is winning the war”

dang. someone must-a found the leftover kookade!?!

raven @ 39

Bay State Librul @ 28

Why do I have this sickening thought
that Reggie will release Libby on bail?

I thought it was almost certain that Libby was going to get time to “get his affairs in order” before he had to report?

Raven I think there are two possibilities (now three h/t to Dratty) here. 1. Libby will be remanded pending appeal but he will be given 6ish weeks to get his affairs in order and for the Bureau of Prisons to determine what to do with him. This is the one we want. 2. Walton will allow him to stay out of jail pending all appeals, and 3) The CoA will allow the emergency stay.

thought the “Bush surge” in Iraq was supposed to reduce violence:

You mean the generals were right and the Bushies were wrong??? No way!! Who’da thunk!

The war is entirely lost as stands. We used artillery in Baghdad this past week.

Artillery in the capital city = true believers in the Berlin bunker.

Helen @ 51

raven @ 39

I thought it was almost certain that Libby was going to get time to “get his affairs in order” before he had to report?

Raven I think there are two possibilities (now three h/t to Dratty) here. 1. Libby will be remanded pending appeal but he will be given 6ish weeks to get his affairs in order and for the Bureau of Prisons to determine what to do with him. This is the one we want. 2. Walton will allow him to stay out of jail pending all appeals, and 3) The CoA will allow the emergency stay.

That’s what I thought, thanks.

Actually, you’ll remember that increases in violence mean that we are close to winning and these acts are symbols of the “last throes” of the insurgency.

Or something.

dakine01 @ 10

Gnome de Plume @ 5

I just popped in. I have to go back and read the earlier post. Dakine, we need to talk. I stopped by Gruene Hall yesterday. The brunch is $25! Betsy and I are cooking up a cheap and better alternative. Let me know how to contact you individually.

Yeah I saw that myself when I checked online. It was a bit of a surprise. Are you on facebook? Ms Betsy is I believe and can get to my e-mail or send a message through that. Otherwise, I guess I can spell it all out phonetically, it would just take some time…

I vote for picnic rather than expensive music. Spent WAY too much money this month. :)

Biodun @ 32

Today is the day that will close up one loop for me at FDL. FDL’s coverage of Judith Miller/Plamegate brought me here sometime in the spring of 2006. Scooter needs to go to prison today.

No matter what, he won’t have a door lock behind him today. He will have 45 days or so before having to go inside, if he does not make bond. Fitz does not contend any of that.

Mr.Murder @ 53

The war is entirely lost as stands. We used artillery in Baghdad this past week.

Artillery in the capital city = true believers in the Berlin bunker.

Why does using arty matter? We’ve been using air with all kinds of lethal stuff all along.

Polling Report. Congressional Approval ratings
What Wolffe doesn’t seem to point out is that congressional approval ratings might rise if congresscritters found a way to end the war, and that Chimpy’s approval ratings are probably permanently in the toilet, Nixonian level.

Helen @ 51

raven @ 39

I thought it was almost certain that Libby was going to get time to “get his affairs in order” before he had to report?

Raven I think there are two possibilities (now three h/t to Dratty) here. 1. Libby will be remanded pending appeal but he will be given 6ish weeks to get his affairs in order and for the Bureau of Prisons to determine what to do with him. This is the one we want. 2. Walton will allow him to stay out of jail pending all appeals, and 3) The CoA will allow the emergency stay.

What is the legal basis for an “emergency stay?”

Kathleen @ 9

“What a mess” What a tragedy is more like it!

How about crimes against humanity! Yet most Americans are happy not to see blown up and dead, injured and displace Iraqi people. This is a ethno/-centric war taking place. The U.S.’s Sabra and Shatilla. We created an enviroment where a genocide could is takeing place!

yawn is the response!

fixed

things come undone @ 48

mui @ 25

Sorta on Topic. Last night I saw Keith’s standin (don’t know name) interviewing Richard Wolffe on KO and got seriously annoyed. Wolffe always seems to lean in support of “waiting” for the surge to work/or not work. He castigates Reid for introducing measures so early after the other failed. Believes Reid should wait until September. Again Wolffe implies this is all politics on the Dem side, but politics are all he offers in rebuttal. Wolffe always believes anything the Congress does benefits Chimpy and that congressional dems are taking the wrong political direction. He can’t seem to connect politics to body count and troops trapped in Iraq. A poll was brought up that stated that approval of Congress was less than Chimpy’s approval ratings, 23% as opposed to 28% (?) KO’s standin: so is the honeymoon over for Congress. Wolffe: Oh definitely over, nada, nada, nada. Richard Wolffe, Newsweek. He is a smug bastard.

Tax the media to pay for the war their lousy reporting helped create.

Now there’s an idea. Russert seems to be going blithely on even after the Scooter libby trial revelations. I mean darn it.

They’ve had the same model wack-A-mole amusement in the arcade in Townsend’s Inlet NJ for over five decades or more. You can wack ‘em but they keep comin. I learned you’re better off talking them out at the knees.

slight OT, but still military-related

Federal Grant for a Medical Mission Goes Awry

From the NY Times

By DIANA B. HENRIQUES and ANDREW W. LEHREN

Published: June 13, 2007

In theory, it was simple: Congress gave two decommissioned Coast Guard cutters to a faith-based group in California, directing that the ships be used only to provide medical services to islands in the South Pacific.

Coast Guard records show that the ships have been providing those services in the South Pacific since the medical mission took possession of them in 1999.

In reality, the ships never got any closer to the South Pacific islands than the San Francisco Bay. The mission group quickly sold one to a maritime equipment company, which sold it for substantially more to a pig farmer who uses it as a commercial ferry off Nicaragua. The group sold the other ship to a Bay Area couple who rent it for eco-tours and marine research.

Hank Essay @ 55

Actually, you’ll remember that increases in violence mean that we are close to winning and these acts are symbols of the “last throes” of the insurgency.

Or something.

All those explosions are adding to the light at the end of the tunnel

Gnome de Plume @ 16

Dakine, I am not in facebook, but Betsy is, and we are in communication, so if you could get your e-mail to her, then you would be in the loop. Also LS is close by. We need to invite her plus a couple folks who are in Austin as well as any Firepups traveling through the area.

I think there are others in San Antone as well so it may be necessary to put out some calls thrugh the day and evening. I’ve sent Ms Betsy a message through facebook as well as to the e-mail addy she has showing on there…

Neil @ 63

They’ve had the same model wack-A-mole amusement in the arcade in Townsend’s Inlet NJ for over five decades or more. You can wack ‘em but they keep comin. I learned you’re better off talking them out at the knees.

I’ve been in chat rooms where we play whack-a-troll till the mods boot them. :)

Another aspect of the failed surge: Think Progress is reporting that 18,000 members of the Iraqi security forces have been lost to injury or death, and possibly another 13,000 to desertion. There isn’t enough standing up going on in order for us to ever stand down.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/.....18-months/

This is just insane. Bush is completely and openly out of control and on the hunt for new military commanders just as nuts as he. I wonder just how much worse this has to get before republican legislators jump ship with their votes instead of just their words?

Betsy - can you get Dakine’s e-mail via facebook so that we can plan this thing together? Also, when LS shows up bring her into the loop. I will be away from the ‘pewter for most of the day.

Biodun @ 27

dakine01:

I see you’ve been racking up the zeds lately.

Anytime the refresh or post starts doing the Blood sweat and tears song, I hurry upstairs. Dumb luck also plays a role as well.

TexB @ 67

Neil @ 63

They’ve had the same model wack-A-mole amusement in the arcade in Townsend’s Inlet NJ for over five decades or more. You can wack ‘em but they keep comin. I learned you’re better off talking them out at the knees.

I’ve been in chat rooms where we play whack-a-troll till the mods boot them. :)

let’s not & say we did.
easier & more effective ;->

Pach “the plan as it stands” thanks

The “surge”(sounds like the name of a soda) is not working, but the “purge” of the Iraqi people is working.

More room and time for the U.S. and Israel to eventually grab the resources by getting rid of the “natives”

Perverted, criminal, outrageous!Arnie @ 61

Kathleen @ 9

“What a mess” What a tragedy is more like it!

How about crimes against humanity! Yet most Americans are happy not to see blown up and dead, injured and displace Iraqi people. This is a ethno/-centric war taking place. The U.S.’s Sabra and Shatilla. We created an enviroment where a genocide could is takeing place!

yawn is the response!

fixed

Thanks

One of the stations floated a report that the “training” of the Iraqi troops is a complete failure, and that it means the troops won’t be leaving anytime in the near future. But we knew that.

Tommu yum @ 60

Dunno. Can any of the lawyers help us out with the possbilities? I suppose we won’t know the reasoning that Libby’s lawyers are giving until and if they file.

BTW Marcy has a post up about Libby’s lawyers. They have hired big guns who specialize in SCOTUS appeals. You can find it here.

If you keep this up, John Boehner’s gonna start bawlin’ agin.

citizen jane @ 42 says:

It takes some brains to learn the most basic lesson we teachers pound into our students: quality NOT quantity

Unless it’s a philosophy course at which point the quantity also matters…

LS @ 73

One of the stations floated a report that the “training” of the Iraqi troops is a complete failure, and that it means the troops won’t be leaving anytime in the near future. But we knew that.

Ahhh - there you are. LS, we are planning a central Texas firepup picnic. Can you get one of us - Betsy probably - your e-mail so that we can “rope” you in?

mui @ 62

things come undone @ 48

Tax the media to pay for the war their lousy reporting helped create.

Now there’s an idea. Russert seems to be going blithely on even after the Scooter libby trial revelations. I mean darn it.

Is the honeymoon over for David Schuster?

Adie @ 71

TexB @ 67

I’ve been in chat rooms where we play whack-a-troll till the mods boot them. :)

let’s not & say we did.
easier & more effective ;->

Chat room is different from this.

Helen @ 51

raven @ 39

I thought it was almost certain that Libby was going to get time to “get his affairs in order” before he had to report?

Raven I think there are two possibilities (now three h/t to Dratty) here. 1. Libby will be remanded pending appeal but he will be given 6ish weeks to get his affairs in order and for the Bureau of Prisons to determine what to do with him. This is the one we want. 2. Walton will allow him to stay out of jail pending all appeals, and 3) The CoA will allow the emergency stay.

What is an “emergency stay?”

To all firepups —

Happy LSD!
(Libby Sentencing Day)

Mandrake @ 75

If you keep this up, John Boehner’s gonna start bawlin’ agin.

at least his tear ducts work…

I’d rather reframe the war as a grand travesty that modest citizens (who joined moveon.org waaay back when) objected too but had no power to stop as opposed to “winning” or “losing” (too repug.) It was bound to come undone. I don’t even buy the we “lost the peace” part either. I’d rather state that Chimpy’s War (or Grand Adventure) has come undone.

TexB @ 79

Adie @ 71

let’s not & say we did.
easier & more effective ;->

Chat room is different from this.

That is why I love this place.

Kathleen @ 80

Helen @ 51

Raven I think there are two possibilities (now three h/t to Dratty) here. 1. Libby will be remanded pending appeal but he will be given 6ish weeks to get his affairs in order and for the Bureau of Prisons to determine what to do with him. This is the one we want. 2. Walton will allow him to stay out of jail pending all appeals, and 3) The CoA will allow the emergency stay.

What is an “emergency stay?”

Martha Stewart had more honor than Scooter.

TexB @ 79

Adie @ 71

let’s not & say we did.
easier & more effective ;->

Chat room is different from this.

gotcha. thanks for ’splainin. i likes ta keep our mods happy ;->

things come undone @ 48

mui @ 25

Sorta on Topic. Last night I saw Keith’s standin (don’t know name) interviewing Richard Wolffe on KO and got seriously annoyed. Wolffe always seems to lean in support of “waiting” for the surge to work/or not work. He castigates Reid for introducing measures so early after the other failed. Believes Reid should wait until September. Again Wolffe implies this is all politics on the Dem side, but politics are all he offers in rebuttal. Wolffe always believes anything the Congress does benefits Chimpy and that congressional dems are taking the wrong political direction. He can’t seem to connect politics to body count and troops trapped in Iraq. A poll was brought up that stated that approval of Congress was less than Chimpy’s approval ratings, 23% as opposed to 28% (?) KO’s standin: so is the honeymoon over for Congress. Wolffe: Oh definitely over, nada, nada, nada. Richard Wolffe, Newsweek. He is a smug bastard.

Tax the media to pay for the war their lousy reporting helped create.

Remember, if it’s Newsweek talking about the Dems, it’s all just politics.

Bay State Librul @ 78

Is the honeymoon over for David Schuster?

I don’t know. Has it? I’d sincerely like to know.

allan_in_upstate @ 15

Pach - If you have some time to kill, there’s a solution for your sticky keyboard.

Somewhat OT, but…

When I was in the Navy we tested some submarine functions at sea. The equipment would get installed in the shipyard (inside the sub, not on the outside) and when they were done with the tests, we would remove all the test equipment. This equipment was data gathering and analysis computer modules.

After it was removed we would take it back to a location that we had and basically hose it down with a fire hose and fresh water. Not distilled water, not “special” water, but water that comes out of the tap, like drinking water. When it was all dried out and wiped down (a couple of days) we would hook it all back up, check to make sure everything worked, and ship it out to another shipyard to be installed on another submarine. The only issue might be cables and connectors that di not get completely dry. This equipment was not especially protected or waterproofed.

No big deal. Really.

And counting

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Where is the outrage?

mui @ 85

Kathleen @ 80

What is an “emergency stay?”

Martha Stewart had more honor than Scooter.

Hell, Paris Hilton has more honor than Libby fer Dog’s sake…

OT, but there are people who will want to know: Eastwood lost his development request!

Coastal panel rejects Monterey golf project
By Kenneth R. Weiss, Times Staff Writer
June 14, 2007

They didn’t make his day. Members of the California Coastal Commission on Wednesday denied Clint Eastwood and a cast of celebrity investors in the Pebble Beach Co. permission to cut down more than 15,000 Monterey pine trees to make way for another golf course — the ninth — in the Monterey Peninsula’s Del Monte Forest.

The commission’s 8-4 decision came after years of politicking that pushed through a local ballot measure in favor of the development, sought key supporters in the state capital and worked on lining up a majority of votes on the powerful commission, which was established 30 years ago to protect the coast from excessive development.

Pebble Beach Co.’s owners, including Eastwood, Arnold Palmer and U.S. Olympic Committee board Chairman Peter Ueberroth, had personally lobbied commissioners since they and their investors bought the company from Japanese owners in 1999 for $820 million.

But in the end, commissioners were unsettled by the proposal, which would have removed trees, filled wetlands and altered fragile coastal habitat that is safeguarded by the state’s coastal protection law.

Oops on that linky. Here’s the actual “just politics” page.

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Mandrake @ 87

Remember, if it’s Newsweek talking about the Dems, it’s all just politics.

DC Journo-oligarchy: It’s disembodied politics. It floats. It sinks. It stinks. It has nothing to do with on the ground reality as far as I can tell. It’s just a stinking pool of clubbiness.

The war is lost. The only two questions now are how humiliating defeat will be, and how humiliating it has to be for the American people to learn the lesson that other nations have learned the same way. This didn’t have to be, but since it is, there has to to be closure. That closure is going to require something like War Crimes Trials for the perpetrators. Without a complete investigation of the strategizing that preceded the invasion and the fabrication of evidence and lies that made it possible to sell to the American people, we run the risk of making the same mistake in a not too distant future.

I understand why the Democratic Presidential candidates have to remain silent on all this, because they can hardly admit defeat. But whoever gets elected has got to buck the Washington establishment and set up a commission of investigation, or perhaps more to the point a Special Investigator to get to the bottom of this, and to bring charges where charges are warranted.

We have to have closure. We didn’t get in Vietnam and we have paid for that mistake ever since.

I don’t know about the honeymoon, but Shuster’s not here, at least, not yet.

mui @ 88

Bay State Librul @ 78

Is the honeymoon over for David Schuster?

I don’t know. Has it? I’d sincerely like to know.

The NYT should know…
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....mp;ei=5070

Kathleen @ 90

And counting

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Where is the outrage?

Hi did you read my reply yesterday?

dakine01 @ 91

mui @ 85

Martha Stewart had more honor than Scooter.

Hell, Paris Hilton has more honor than Libby fer Dog’s sake…

Oh did she go back to jail? If so, good for her. She/Her lawyers(?) show more respect for the law then Libby, if that’s the case.

Adie @ 82

Mandrake @ 75

If you keep this up, John Boehner’s gonna start bawlin’ agin.

at least his tear ducts work…

Don’t . . . take . . . away . . . his . . . waaaaaaaarrrrr!!! Mommiiiieeeee!

Adie @ 82

Mandrake @ 75

If you keep this up, John Boehner’s gonna start bawlin’ agin.

at least his tear ducts work…

He’s never been the same since they stopped caught him handing out
$5,000 checks from tobacco lobbyists on the House floor.

Insurgents were the only ones who listened to Bush’s call “bring em on”

Baghdad “checkmate”
http://www.informationclearing.....e17871.htmthings come undone @ 98

Bay State Librul @ 97

The NYT should know…
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....mp;ei=5070

Sounds stylin!

Things come undone. I left in the afternoon and did not see your response. I will go looking.

allan @101: linkie?

Also, is he really an alkie? Sure looks the part.

100 101

*gsnort* ;->

Meanwhile, W is blaming Syria for the attack on the Gnome de Plume @ 77

LS @ 73

One of the stations floated a report that the “training” of the Iraqi troops is a complete failure, and that it means the troops won’t be leaving anytime in the near future. But we knew that.

Ahhh - there you are. LS, we are planning a central Texas firepup picnic. Can you get one of us - Betsy probably - your e-mail so that we can “rope” you in?

Sure. How do I do that without giving out my email to the world?

LS @ 107

Meanwhile, W is blaming Syria for the attack on the Gnome de Plume @ 77

Ahhh - there you are. LS, we are planning a central Texas firepup picnic. Can you get one of us - Betsy probably - your e-mail so that we can “rope” you in?

Sure. How do I do that without giving out my email to the world?

Woops!!