Media Matters has a new report out today analyzing a number of points from years of polling data and other means, and they come to a conclusion that is about to shock the established narrative crowd: the United States is fundamentally a progressive nation, not a conservative one.
The report, entitled “The Progressive Majority: Why A Conservative America Is A Myth,” pokes holes in a number of established media narratives that have cropped up over the years. And it is no wonder that these myths have gotten planted, given how frequently Wurlitzer folks repeat them — but, honestly, isn’t it time we all started saying to pundits and political consultants “And your proof of this is…?”
For example, after the Democratic takeover of Congress in the 2006 elections, media talking heads scrambled to come up with reasons that Democrats won and Republicans lost. The narrative that many of them settled on was that Democrats won because they ran more conservative candidates. But that is altogether false and unsupported by facts, according to Media Matters:
In truth, however, the Democratic class of 2006 was remarkably progressive. According to a survey conducted by Media Matters, all 30 newly elected House Democrats advocated raising the minimum wage, supported changing course in Iraq, and opposed efforts to privatize Social Security. All but two supported embryonic stem cell research and only five described themselves as “pro-life” on the issue of abortion. Thirty-seven House and Senate candidates who promoted “fair trade” rather than “free trade” won; and none of them lost. Candidates in the freshman class who were conservative on a particular issue got the lion’s share of the attention [from the media], but they were a distinct minority.
The report goes on to detail more instances with regard to public sentiment falling squarely in the progressive camp, and not in the mythological “conservative America” camp that the media and conservative politicians and pundits play up without a supporting factual basis. For example:
– On free markets versus regulation: “American believe in private enterprise, but they also understand that the profit motive does not serve the public interest.”
– On taxes: “…although people are happy to have their taxes cut, they worry about increasing the deficit or starving infrastructure to do it.”
– On “values:” “When a Zogby poll after the election asked voters what was “the most urgent moral problem in American culture,” 33 percent picked “greed and materialism,” 31 percent chose “poverty and economic issues,” 16 percent said “abortion,” and 12 percent said “same-sex marriage.”
And there are a large number of other issues detailed as well in the report, which ought to make the opinion-pushers and the pundit classes stop to think. (The section on increased tolerance and acceptance of homosexual rights alone is going to make Gary Bauer’s head explode.) But the media has to stop repeating false and unsubstantiated myths without first asking the person being interviewed — and themselves — what factual information and hard data they have to support the assumptions they have been repeating ad nauseum.
Seems to me that the conservative Wurlitzer is gonna need to start putting a whole lotta lipstick on a much larger pig if that happens.
(Lipstick photo via Sashamd.)



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How goes it Christy?
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Hey Busted. Going well. Yourself?
Now to read, these threads have been going great guns.
Great!
I have a secret.
I will tell you later.
;)
Great posts today.
Busted at 5 — Well, that’s just evil…you tease!
Look for an email in a minute.
Have always wondered how that myth got started. How is it possible for the country to be conservative if the Commander Guy has an approval rating of between 28 and 35 percent? Doesn’t add up to me.
Title and pic: BWAHAHAHA!
Now to read….
Christy,
I think that report nails it. I have said for years that the Rethugs HAVE to lie and use New Speak and Orwellian language because if they told the truth on their various positions and the effects on regular people, they couldn’t even get elected as dogcatcher at a greyhound track…
Been out of the news loop – is it confirmed that Shooter needs a new pacemaker?
Would someone please take this report to Nancy Pelosi and ask her to stop playing kissy-poo with Georgie Boy, and start taking away his war toys?
Bipartisanship is nice, if you have nice people to party with. But after six years of smack-downs isn’t it time for Democrats to stop acting like abused spouses who keep going back to their abuser? For the past 4 months at least, our leaders have had the wrong strategy. Ever since Pelosi said impeachment was off the table last year, I felt unease about getting real accountability from our leadership.
Bob in HI
Teddy at 10 — Glad you liked it. ;-)
One reason, I think, that Americans are more steadily more progressive on the GAY issue is because people everywhere come out nowadays. As people come out, more people actually know an out gay person. Thus, the prevailing cultural attitudes about “the gays” suddenly apply to your cousin, your hairdresser, or your neighbor.
Coming out is a profoundly personal act that engages the attitudes of the culture around you. Coming out is thus personal and political. It’s still courageous, in many places in America, to come out — we must be supportive and proud of our fellow Americans, young and old, who come out at risk to themselves.
I believe the changes in American culture are more about the steps taken by individuals in their own communities — and less about “Will & Grace.”
As Harvey Milk said, “Ya gotta give them hope!”
I was so busy at work today! I only got to read one post. Are there cliff notes anywhere…
Bob-
Sadly for Iraqis and American soldiers, if Dems cut funding they’ll be blamed for the war making it hard for them to gain control in 08. And now that the Golden Dome mosque has been bombed again (talk about Bush incompetence…how was that place not fortified like the Green Zone?) it’s going to get much worse.
I’m really concerned that things are so desperate for Bush that he’ll just stop caring and advance the big oil/neocon agenda and attack Iran.
The woman I spoke with at Obama’s headquarters said that they’ve been getting calls all day.
They, and I mean Washington, has to wake up and realize that we are sick of this, we are unapologetically angry, and we are the majority.
Deal with it.
A subject near and dear to my own Urbana. Our Bob McChesney plays this tune on his radio show “Media Matters.”
Spell it out plain and simple: Most Americans aren’t reactionary rednecks!!!
Great post, Christy. The MSM calls this a conservative country because the conservatives scream so loudly, and in unison. And then loudly again. One of W’s great achievements has been to split them, so they are no longer in harmony. But while they weren’t looking (because they thought they owned the roost), the rest of the country became much less homophobic, much more pro-working-women, and much more progressive. No doubt the conservative pro-corporate money politics contributed to this shift toward progressivism: individuals do not benefit under our corporate kleptocracy. Health care is not improved; access to health care disappears. I do not even speak of The War. Americans have really begun to notice, and they are being politicized by what they see.
ccmask @ 16
LOL!
Its not a myth, its a fabrication that is being turned into a creation. If it is created then it will exist. In this way it is somewhat possible to “create the reality” since as we have seen in the last 6 – 12 years the jerks get elected and merrily go along their way appointing other jerks (sometimes during recess), and passing jerky laws.
Its not that they are really “creating the reality”, rather that in America major and terrible laws can be passed with people either not knowing or not batting an eye.
After Nixon they took over the media, Regean gave rise to the corporation like never before (and god knows what else), baby Bush was going for the judges (and has largely been successful, pending the upcoming imeachment – this assumes we live in a democracy though so who knows).
OT but…. who the f is Martin Indyck, described as “an advisor to president Clinton” and on BBC TV now sounding like a totally committed wingnut, explaining that all the current disaster in Gaza today is entirely the fault of Hamas and nothing whatever to do with the USA (and spineless Europeans) lying to the Palestinians that we believed in democracy, when what we meant was that they must not support people who opposed their occupiers and tormentors. Is he a Democrat? If so I despair of the future of the human race, which the USA is undoubtedly still able to influence disproportionately.
Slightly (still) OT, but, but, but….
I spent all day watching the ahem “live-blogging” that Ogilvy did for HHS for its touted Pandemic Flu Leadership seminar. I have been spanked by Ogilvy for the temerity of mentioning that not only did they not live-blog, but they let commenters hang for HOURS while they schmoozed with the participants, posed for pretty pictures and generally, did the usual PR thing. You all really MUST visit the HHS Pandemic Flu Leadership blog to see the HHS inaction. Because they look worse than Brownie three days after Katrina. Super dome? What Super Dome?
I invoked FDL as an exemplar of proper and effective live-blogging, BTW.
But seriously, pandemic flu has a 60% mortality rate or higher (in some countries it’s 100%), and it is striking women and children -partly because the cases are occurring in countries where women and children tend small flocks for income. But it’s coming and the need is for shelter in place – home quarantine, closed schools, etc. for three MONTHS or longer. And we don’t have national supplies of ANYTHING for three months. We are an in-debt, just in time distribution society heavily dependent on imports.
Please let’s get this issues some well-deserved traction and make it front page news. The Flu Wiki folks are shouting as loud as they can, but it’s going to take a huge progressive web presence to move this issue into the MSM.
Progressive nation, conservative media.
Blue Dido at 20 — Yup. Given that there are still 8 percent of the country who think a woman’s place is in the home…period…we still have a little work to do. (And I say this as a woman whose place is in her home. *g* But it is MY choice, not something someone else gets to impose on me because I’m a girl. Ahem.)
This post speaks to something that I have “felt” instinctively for some time. I have a knack for being able to talk to all kinds of people, even those whom I don’t “overtly” agree with. And what I have found, is that if you really listen, even the most reactionary, simplistic people have a progressive/populist impulse. That is, they want to hope for a better life, not only for themselves but others. Hence the American reputation for generosity.
The problem is, that we (progressives) have not had a “real voice.” I am hopeful that this is changing, but we have a ways to go until we can look to leaders who have the courage, the integrity and the imagination to really articulate progressive/populist values.
I really think that most people are sick and tired of leaders who can only speak to the most base limbic aspects of the human experience. Hence the phenomenal unpopularity of GW Bush.
Great post, Christy!
tommy yum @ 25
Yup.
newspaperbrat @ 12
Shooters pacemaker needs a new battery. It seems reasonable, I guess.
Blue Dido @ 20
Great comment. I think that a large part of what happened is that a lot of kids who were raised by boomers have grown up (and become Grups!). They have “real” concerns which are not being addressed. And having very different values, they expect a lot more than the reactionary post-war and boomers who have held power.
Proven by the actual 2000 and 2004 presidential election counts. Problem is, nobody stopped the vote manipulators.
Most of the USA is progressive.
Woodhall Hollow @ 30
Yes, yes, and yes again.
Christy, you are so right on.
I hope they stick a cheap Taiwan model in his a** and then start going on and on about fair trade and the global economy and isn’t it wonderful that we can get such a good deal and then it goes dead.
Bustednuckles @ 34
That would karma,big time.
Busted has a secret!!! I can’t stand that…so, I’ll just have another cookie in honor of the brave testifying employees of Mrs. Doan, Mrs. Doan, Mrs. Doan….who will never get to eat cookies again, if the choice is left to her.
Chetnolian @ 23
Wikipedia is your friend – Martin Indyk. He served as research director for A*P*C, and as U.S. Ambassador to Israel. In other words, he’s an apologist for the Israeli military.
Bob in HI
Bob in HI – thanks for that link. A very good example of how we need to look beyond party to actual beliefs and actions … ugh!
Chetnolian @ 23
Indyk (or Indyck, found it both ways) is
former American ambassador to Israel (1995–1997, 2000–2001) and currently Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy Studies at the Brookings Institution. Also at one time (and probably still affiliated with) Those Who May Not Be Named (A*P*C). Read: conservative, very much pro-Israeli hawks, and prbably a good buddy of Hillary.
newspaperbrat @ 12
Needed Criteria for pacemaker
1. Supplied by lowest bidder.
2. Made in China.
3. No D*racells, (damned pesky wabbit).
OT but imho important: Under my .SIG you’ll find a pointer to what I hope will be a productive discussion about what tools FDL has adopted, and might adopt in the near-term, to add discussion-style functions to this highly successful blog.
I hope you’ll join in; you’re more than welcome.
Watch out though: the introduction is overlarge… Sorry ’bout that. You’ll have to scroll down to see it all, beore you get to the comments area. :)
I’ll be re-posting this invitation in later blogposts.
Busted — You should tell everyone your secret. *g*
oooh …. Tucker taking on Thompson’s lobbying for Aristide in Haiti!
Thompson may not be the shoe in the Rs hope.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
I wanna know, I wanna know…spill it…especially if it’s good news.
Thanks everyone. I remain depressed.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
I didn’t want to blog ho’ and go OT, but OK.
It HAS been killing me not to say anything.;)
here it is;
http://alterx.blogspot.com/2007/06/new-guy.html
AnnieW @ 44
A secret? We love secrets. Do tell!
Come on, Busted. Out with it!
This post was refreshing, Christie, especially after everything else today. I have to say, I particularly enjoy the fact that Harriet will be testifying…
Dead silence ain’t a good sign.
Bustednuckles @ 46
Congratulations!!!
Bustednuckles @ 49
It’s a good sign!! People are following the links!!
Congrats, Busted!
Bustednuckles @ 49
Wonderful ! I enjoy your comments so much and look forward to more – at several places.
Thanks every one. I was flat out stunned. I hope I can only live up to the excellent things that Fixer and Gordon do.
Takes a few minutes to follow them linkies and read the stuff!
(Now I’m considering what a 90-degree whatchamacollet looks like. Don’t think I’ve met one. Yet. I have a friend who thinks her Chevy’s blown its headgasket, though.)
Busted – Congrats. Everyone went chasing the links, thus the silence.
Your post on gasket removal struck a chord from the days when I could understand what was under the hood and do my own work. Them days are long gone.
LS @ 51
Nope, first we have to refresh, then we have to read and follow the links.
Congrats!
Pete at 56 — You and me both, man. Stupid computer chips ruined everything…
RBG, You around?
The timing is pretty incredible. ;)
I think Michael Moore made that point in “Stupid White Men”, or perhaps one of his other books. Most Americans are Liberal-leaning, once you remove the racial/sexual/tribal bigotry element.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 58
It’s not just the chips – I open the hood and there is nothing I recognize, or could get to if I could recognize. I spent four knuckle busting hours pulling an alternator out of the depths of a Nissan and knew my shade tree days were over.
BTW Christy – it’s cool that you worked on cars!
Bustednuckles @ 46
Petedownunder.
Thats why Bustednuckles is a very apt handle for me.
pete at 62 — My dad was a mechanic until he retired a few years back. And he made sure I could do all the important stuff. It came in handy when I had to teach the two boys in my driver’s ed group how to change a tire. ;-)
WTG Busted!
Christy @ 58
It’s wonderful having a car with ‘no user serviceable parts inside’ under the hood. It isn’t that many years ago that I replaced a clutch slave cylinder on my then-car. Did some of the coolant hoses, too; I don’t recommend trying to do the lower hose on the radiator.)
I’m glad such a report has now come out. There are many reasons for the on-going public misperception.
ONE of the reasons has been Karl The Coward. For some years now, he has repeatedly mouthed that “the country is actually to the right of center in all issues”. He would say these things in solemn tone; as if he were being frank and earnest with everyone.
The MSM lapped it right up, and so that wurlitzer thing kicked right in. This article is a good start to halt the Rover train. Good work.
Ghostman
do-si-do @ 63
Oh so cool, busted! My hubby is really into Champ Car and F1 and Car Talk. Or is that Kah Tahk?
I still had to take my car into the shop, though, to get the headlight fixed ;)
PS Yep, preview is my friend and I should never forget it.
I don’t think either political party is connecting with voters.
From MSNBC today:
…the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that Republicans are abandoning the president, which has dropped his job-approval rating below 30 percent — his lowest mark ever in the survey.
But he isn’t the only one whose support is on the decline in the poll. Congress’ approval rating has plummeted eight points, bringing it below even Bush’s. And just one in five believe the country is on the right track, which is the lowest number on this question in nearly 15 years.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 65
You’re very lucky, my dad was very talented in his own way, but hopeless mechanically. He couldn’t use a screwdriver – wasn’t sure which end to use. I was self taught – trial and error and error and error…..
Credit where credit is due dept.
This place is where I made one of my first comments ever on a blog.
Thanks to Jane and Christy and all of the other wonderful pups, I came out of my shell and started give and take. I have learned so much here that Thanks doesn’t seem to be enough. This is where I started and I am not going anywhere. I’ll just be busier.
Hi Christy!
Nice to see you while I am up and awake!
FYI, Rachel Maddow has John Nichols of THE NATION on saying the subpoena-ing of Harriet, et. al is a HUGE turning point in the investigation of DoJ and BushCO.
yo, Bustednuckles! congrats.
this gives me the occasion to blurt out Nusted Buckles for no apparent reason…
FYI,
switch on NBC news for what they say are terrible poll (NBC/WSJ) results.(confirms we are at a volitile period in American history) Presented by Russert.
US on right track 19 percent yes
Congress 23 percent
President Bush 29 percent
Clinton is way ahead in the polls 39 to BO’s 31
Women poll HC 18% above BO
JE 15 percent
Goopers RG 29% FT 20% MR 14 JM 14 (down 8 pts)
Tim Russert sounds breathless as he reads these poll results.
Thanks punaise.
I have a long ways to go yet, I just got started.
Bustednuckles @ 49
Following the trail and reading!
Most excellent–big congrats are in order. Can we pop a bottle of bubbly?
We’re progressive til its time to go to the polls and time to count the votes, then it turns out we’re conservative. Vehicle inspection spot checks on routes from poor districts to the polls (see Tallahassee, FL 2000), Katherine Harris’ butterfly ballots with misaligned bubbles (Pat Buchannon was astounded by the number of votes he’d rec’d in Palm Beach County). And Republican owned, easily hacked SES and Diebold voting machines with no paper trail recording the votes.
Its no wonder we’re so conservative.
Woodhall at 77 — Or perhaps a nicely aged bottle of 10W30? *g*
Enough Blog ho’in.
Thanks Christy for letting me get that off my chest!
Now back to our regularly scheduled media bashing.
Christy, thanks for this report.
My family in rural Ohio want the same things my enviro friends in SF and Eugene want: safe food and water; decent wages; affordable housing; good schools; community; health care.
And a democracy under the Constitution.
We are the majority in America – the upper 0.5% spend billions to numb us with crap to buy, divide us with Rove’s tricks, or just flat out lie for years (Fox, et al).
And all their billions weren’t enough.
We’re progressive, we’re the majority, and we’re pissed.
Barak, Hillary, and Roger Ailes (Fox) are all in the way.
Can’t wait to see ‘em kicked to the curb.
We’re progressives, and we’re pissed.
And we’re taking back our nation.
Busted at 80 — You are most welcome. I didn’t want you to ’splode or anything. *g*
Good to hear you will keep swimming in the lake Busted K. Wish you well with your new blog..)
Jacqrat @ 73
Did you see Amy Robot introduce Rachel Maddow for comment on the Pentagon’s stupid “gay bomb,” J? Amy called Rachel “our own gay bomb” right on Countdown yesterday!
Since only 1 in five Americans think the country is on the right track, perhaps it is time to think third, 4th, fifth party. Or whatever. Does the Constitution say anything about this nation being confined to two parties? I don’t think so. At least I’m in the majority for a change. I’m one of those four out of five Americans who are fed up.
LS @ 50
Busted!
I love fixer and gord.
“Seems to me that the conservative Wurlitzer is gonna need to start putting a whole lotta lipstick on a much larger pig if that happens.”
My fear is that the pig they are dressing up will be burka-ed in a mushroom cloud.
Teddy at 84 — I thought she was flirting with Rachel. *g*
Even though the pig already looks like Tammy Faye, I am certain the MSM is only too happy to smear a little more lipstick on that already painted pig.
Busted- congrats xxoo VG
Christy Hardin Smith @ 88
So it wasn’t just me!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 79
Bwahahaha!
newton at 91 — Yep, I thought it was awfully flirty, in a teasing familiar sort of way. Of course, could be they are just buddies, but it seemed quite the chummy moment. *g*
The myth of a conservative America is not news, but it obviously does die hard. Joe Conason exposed the fallacy in “Big Lies” back in 2003 when he reminded us that the combined Democratic-Green vote in 2000 was something approaching sixty percent. We’ll find out in 2008 what eight years of Bush has done to that percentage.
Christy and Firedogs -
greetings from blogging jail- (new house – no connection yet – blergghh)
MISS YOU ALL SO MUCH !
(it’s like being muzzled! – which in my case may not be a bad thing )
congrats Busted !
mucho smoocho to all
But, but if this were all true, then columnists like Howard Fineman and Joe Klein have been wrong and are nothing more than high priced shills. That can’t be right. *g*
cbl at 95 — Was wondering if you were okay. SO glad you checked in! Hope you like the new house…
Hugh @ 96
You cannot possibly expect anyone in DC to buy this pig.
Hi VG!
Thanks so much.
Jane , you have mail.
Hugh at 96 — Dammit, you made me spew a bite of rice pilaf. (Our dahchsund says thanks very much, btw…)
petedownunder @ 71
I learned how to change a tire when I was a broke welfare mother in the 70s. On the side of the road, in the middle of nowhere in VT. A nice guy came along and helped me out, but there were many times afterwards when I had to do it alone.
I can also change oil. And jump-start anything. And not get ripped off by mechanics who make the mistake of thinking I am just a stupid woman!
Christy,
Has the dachshund gained wait since the peanut?
Bustedknuckles! Congrats! Tom and Ray have competition now!
Bustednuckles @ 46
Congrats, Busted! I’ve just bookmarked the site.
Mack at 102 — Oh yeah. She likes to feed PJ bits of hot dog and pretty much anything else she can get her hands on… Our doxie a mini, so we try to keep her small for the sake of her back…and The Peanut refuses to get with the program. *g* You should have seen her when Jane was here with the poodles — The Peanut was in doggie heaven.
Chetnolian @ 23
Martin Indyk is the director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings. He got his start at that place that sends the spam filters crazy: A*P*C so his point of view is what you would expect.
keeping up with all the interesting blogs would be more than a full-time job…
Hugh @ 96
What else would you call them?
Most Americans care about the communities they live in and want to see things improve. They get upset when things don’t go right(Hurricane Katrina’s aftermath). And most figure it out when things don’t make sense(Iraq). And they can usually think for themselves.
Say it loud:
“American believe in private enterprise, but they also understand that the profit motive does not serve the public interest.”
Busted, Christy and all mechanics,
I love you all. Teh car is about the only thing I do not want to fix. I can change the spark plug in the lawn mower, and I can change bulbs, check the oil, jump the car, and change a tire, but anything else I am not busting any part of myself to understand.
I don’t know why that is. I love to fix everything else. Just not the car. I have a serious love of my car fixers. Loooove them.
N=1 at 24, that’s pretty scarey info. I have about a month’s worth of back up, but I can’t imagine turning away starving people. It sure wouldn’t last a month, I’m afraid.
bg at 111 — Well, I certainly wouldn’t call myself a mechanic. But my dad is an awfully good one. *g*
I can’t fix anything unless it calls for duct tape. If you open my toolbox, I have tape in every color and business cards with a rubberband around them. I’m hopeless!
Henry is doing some slap down of the DOT reply to his letter.
Loo Hoo. @ 112
And some in the HHS are advocating only a three day to two week supply. Please pass the word because this is going to happen – any time now. And there is absolutely no real preparation going on in the way of food, water supply, medication stockpiles – anything.
Great post Christy! Thank you for blogging about this report. I think that report is what MSM news outlets need to understand if they are ever going to turn around their dwindling viewership and readers. I don’t go to MSM news sources anymore because I don’t find their information or perspectives relevant. I bet a lot of other people feel that way too. Why would anyone continue to look for information they know exists in places they can’t find that information? People aren’t that dumb! That’s why FDL is a daily stop for me. Thank you for writing about issues I care about in a way that takes the subject matter very seriously.
Not really a surprise, is it?
The mistake is thinking that the Democrats are a progressive party, which excepting a few old-timers, they aren’t. Faced with a choice between a real Republican and a Republican in Democrat’s clothing, voters choose the real Republican, natch. We would vote more progressively if we had the opportunity.
Which is only one of many reasons that Clinton would lose if the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate her. They do seem to be determined to head off that cliff, so I’m voting Green.
DrenchedOtter @ 118
Oh dog… don’t get me started
randiego @ 119
Or me.
Oh my, just caught sight of Sheriff Joe DiGenova.
Hey is Keith back tonight? is it just me or has he been vacationing a lot lately?
I know… it’s a an east coast thing. Over here on the west coast we’ve hardly noticed it’s not really spring anymore… although I bet it’s a little warmer up Loo Hoo’s way
Consolidating control of the US House is the key to a progressive future. The presidential race is more like American Idol than it is like many, many House races, and the Senate, well – it is innately a VERY conservative institution, but it comes next.
Any effort spent on House races will pay far bigger dividends than any other national political races.
Yep, and a bit of a surprise that it was not HRC’s friend Carville who threw up the screen for Libby. After all, he already wrote on the character issue. So again, the difference between HRC and Obama is what?
N=1, thanks for spotlighting this – I hope all at teh Lake will follow up on your wise advice.
N=1 @ 116
How many households could afford to buy three months worth of food at this point? This sounds like a nightmare.
Why is tweety so willfully ignorant?
Is he saying that of course breaking the law (hatch act, loyalty oaths,m obstruction of justice, voter suppression) with DOJ is occurring, but thats just politics?
Now, is he going to say the same re: Libby?
FYI, new thread
Great post and a great find Christy, thanks.
Eileen in Tampa @ 117
My bold. ITA!
You know, a journalism prof I know from a very prestigious U has commented many times about the difference in her students. I know this bias isn’t new, but she can spot the ones who will pursue print vs. TV fairly easily. The print students are better writers and work harder. The b/c students will get better pay ;)
Just sayin’. I cannot stand watching/listening to the bubbleheads….
Ed*ard Teller @ 123
You are so correct.
And, let me put in a good word for Blue America candidate Eric Massa.
His return chat at FDL herewas somewhat eclipsed by everyone panting over the live vlog with John Laesch.
Since then, I’ve exchanged several emails with him, and he is very impressive. If you have even $5 to spare, I hope you will consider donating at Blue America here
Oh, and his BA America pic really does not convey his spark and sparkle. I told Eric that, and he says that in fact he is working on new campaign photos.
kirk murphy @ 125
Building up your immune system as you increase your food supply in increments may help also.
punaise @ 107
A number of them –Salon? DailyKos? –offer a daily sweep of the top blogs. Usually someone here on FDL will point them out.
Bob in HI
I think the country has always been progressive. If you look at how the country and it’s government has evolved over the years progressive principles have almost always held sway. Periodically the wingnuts rise up but overall we have always been progressive. Al Gore in the Assault on Reason does a pretty good job of explaining how we find ourselves in the current fix with a conservative crowd of hooligans in control and the American people so very slow to respond if at all. The Media Matters study just confirms the concept that something has happened in the last decade or two that short circuited the progressive spirit in the country.
Christy,
As you’ve said on a number of occasions, it’s a marathon, not a sprint. Consolidating that progressive core of our population (thank God we still have it) is going to take time and lots of effort and lots of anguish, because it won’t happen all at once. We all have our work cut out.
Where are we on Libby? Did I miss something? Understand you needed to go with Doan today. Libby is still out there. No offense intended but is there any merit to the arguments he presented?
We have Libby at the sentencing stage. Rove, etc are some where behind.
Admire your work.
Steve
Bustednuckles @ 49
Sometimes there just isn’t thing to say and we wait quietly and see events unfold. It’s time to relax, sip a lemonade and wait. Not everything can be rushed or solved by throwing more manpower at it. Sometimes patience is best.