GSA head Laurita Doan testifies today before the House Government Oversight Committee. C-Span3 is broadcasting the testimony live, including on their streaming feed online. Buckle up — and wipe those water glasses, because you never know who might want your fingerprints. (Little joke from Ms. Doan’s last appearance, for those who missed it.)
[Photo of fingerprint on water glass via John.Nathaniel.]
REP. MICA QUESTIONS: Mica says Doan is nice, and then goes onto Bloch character assasination information. [CHS notes: Every time Mica talks about something smarmy, he has a weird, creepy chuckle tell. Anyone else notice this? It's between a snort and a chuckle.]
REP. WATSON QUESTIONS: One thing is very troubling to me — that race has been injected into the hearing. Do you feel that you are being attacked because you are a woman and an African-American? Doan says there is probably a political difference of opinion. Doan says that she doesn’t think it is a race thing. Watson says let’s dismiss race and gender — and she says this to the people who are injecting race and gender into all of this — that it is not applicable for this hearing or this committee, what is at issue is the Hatch Act. Do you believe you violated the Hatch Act? Doan says that she doesn’t think she did, and tried to tell everyone what she does recall about the Jennings presentation meeting.
DAVIS says that race and gender issue didn’t cme from Doan, it came from the “other side” with her 2 year old e-mail. [CHS says: actually, it came in with Davis' opening statement and subsequent questioning...]
REP. BILBRAY QUESTIONS: Talking about himself, having been an at risk GOP candidate in 2006, and the meanness of using statements made prior to public service actions.
REP. SHAYS QUESTIONS: Shays brings up Thurgood Marshall’s words to talk about about Doan has been attacked. Says he wishes she’d wait to answer a question once people have actually asked it.
REP. YARMUTH QUESTIONS: Points out that Bloch has countered “the OSC leaked the report” information with a “GSA actually leaked the report.” Walking through the timeline — Doan says that she started getting questions from the press quoting the report about 7 hours prior to her actually receiving it via courier at her office. Says she never saw the May 17th draft report that was already out in the public — Doan says she didn’t get that report directly, she pulled it off the internet. And on to a discussion of grammar and tense, and the time continuum.
DAVIS QUESTIONS: Back to the performance ratings questions again.
REP. SOUDER QUESTIONS: Says this is a “gotcha game.” And is peeved with the GSA, and is using his time to bitch at Doan about her poor decisions for the Fort Wayne Post Office and it’s bad planning for public transportation.
REP. ISSA QUESTIONS: Really appreciates Doan’s willingness to appreciate small businesses.
REP. WELCH QUESTIONS: Talking about use of federal government resources to talk about political campaign information to GSA employees. You refused to answer questions before because of the ongoing OSC investigation. Now that the investigation is over, would like an answer to my question. Doan says investigation is continuing, so I can’t answer that. “I won’t Monday Morning Quarterback, but I’ll say that I will evaluate what I did and do better in the future.” (paraphrase there — but that’s pretty close)
***I need to address something else for a bit. Am going to put up a fresh thread in a coupla minutes for you guys to continue discussing Doan in the comments. Sorry gang — but something just came up that I need to read. Will link up the new thread when I get it up.***
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Zed
All hail Zod
Missed it by THAT much!
My God Rep. Diane Watson, go girl!
Watson is smacking Doan and all the rpubs done for bringing race and sex into things. Asking specifically if Doan thinks she violated Hatch Act.
Doan does not believe she did.
doan: you credit the ones who remember something but not the ones who don’t remember anything.
dakine01 @ 5
Ms. Doan do you believe you were violated by the cookies?
I do not believe I violated the Hatch Act.
She didn’t violate the Hatch Act because she doesn’t remember.
In other words, if you don’t remember it, it didn’t happen.
How is the hearing going? I turned it off when that tool Burton was speaking. Did someone finally stick a pin in that guy to deflate all the air out of him?
By the way, I just heard corn futures went sky high a little while ago. ;-)
“It’s my belief that I do not recollect that”.
that deserves some kind of award.
Watson cutting through Doan’s slime!
Watson: I find you equivocate. You CAN and DO remember when it suits you.
Davis trying to say that Dems raised race and gender issue. BS DAVIS! She brought up race and gender in her statement as did you Mica and Issa and Burton!
Oh, the problem with these kind of hearings, is it gets picky.
???
Davis! Go back to the bar!
‘I don’t believe I violated the Hatch Act.’
Therein lies the problem – I don’t believe a lot of things, it doesn’t necessarily mean I have a grasp on reality.
Davis, have another drink.
He’s looking like Joe McCarthy in his last days the more I see him.
-GSD
jayt @ 11
Almost as good as Gonzo’s “I don’t recall remembering that.” But that’s why he gets the big bucks.
kdh22 @ 7
On occasion, I can’t believe that these idiots(Doan .. Goodling) want to go down with the sinking ship. Do they have lifetime employment at AEI or the Weekly Standard after this is over?
Anybody notice that they keep calling her “MRS. Doan, instead of “MS. Doan”.
And Wax smacks down Davis by reminding him that HE made first reference to race and gender…
Watson “I believe you violated the Hatch Act”
Davis words can and should be used against him. The Republicans over and over “injected race and gender” over and over and over again!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 10
Limit up?
Davis is filled with poison!
Boo-Yah!!
Henry notes that Tom Davis was the first to bring up race and gender.
They probably all hate me because I ate all the cookies, but I can live with that.
Why are the ReThugs wearing cufflinks? Are they all going out afterwards?
Anybody taking a tally on how many times the Clinton administration is being dredged up by the rPubes?
Bilbray claiming Clinton “dirty tricks” in sting operation against him is why he is so conscious of hatch act and that e-mails from before service should not be allowed.
GSD – yup, what I just said.
Did I miss any Issa BS? I know… does a Republican hate Freedom…
I guess I came in at a bad part of this hearing. What with people getting picky and all.
LS @ 25
/muttering ….
goddamned cookie-eaters…..
done muttering/
jayt @ 11
She’s just quotin Gonsalves
Shorter Bilbray: “God forbid constituents should ever hold us to our campaign promises.”
Make hay Shays, I’m thinkin’ you’re out after ‘08…
Republican now up lamenting that Democrats are citing facts. So inappropriate.
All good supportive Republican employees will get lots of cookies, but those employees who dare to counter me will never get another cookie, so there!!
Lordy. Shays just called her ‘beautiful’.
The most lonely Republican in New England is up at bat.
-GSD
Ms. Doan, please come off of the cross and help us throw some mud at Valerie Wilson please.
Shorter Shays: “Laurita Doan, you are a beautiful woman. Sleep with me. I don’t care what the press says.”
LS @ 35
Well, if they “rehabilitate” their behavior, then they can have cookies.
Great!
Republicans are coaching the witness on the stand.
Thurgood Marshall! Let’s not talk about race!
Shays is a hoot!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 18
Doan refused to answer Watsons question clearly one way or another. Doan could certainly answer “yes” “yes” “yes” when they were running through her accomplishments!
Shays: you are Joan of Arc
Remember – its all Clinton’s fault anyway
Chris Shays: I think you’re a beautiful person…is he bringing out the ‘black is beautiful’ mantra subliminally.
Hoo-dear…
Shays should be out in ‘08.
Did he just cut Waxman off three times after telling Doan to wait…
I find HIM astonishing.
What did he have for breakfast?
Shays: You are a wonderful, beautiful person.
Who knew that Shays was such a hippy? I expect him to break into a chorus of “Everything is beautiful”.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 18
As long as they toe the party line and protect the upper echelon of the administration, yes, they will be taken care of.
There is no name because they won’t release the documents that would prove the illegal actions.
Oops, that was a big fuckup.
Henry: You want the names of the people she has retaliated against? We;ll give them to you.
Henry’s losing patience. Good for him.
Shays: I want names of those who claim to be retaliated against. There are NO names. I find this hearing astonishing. You’ve retaliated against no one.
Some of my employees don’t like me. (I wonder why?)
Poor widdle lady, had to answer questions for 9 hours! Flaming sexist.
I just want to hear one Republican ask her one serious question about violating the Hatch Act! Just one!
If they do not they have demonstrated their inability and refusal to rise above party politics and take the Hatch act seriously.
They should follow her down that rabbit hole.
You could go on like this forever.
demi aka dmoore @ 47
That was actually fair–Waxman had asked for him to yield a minute, and Shays asked for his time back.
Go Diane.
I love the way she’s turning this around.
WA: Everyone here is being investigated.
Ha!
Lordy, can you imagine Shays and Davis together after this hearing.
Little Green Peas
emptywheel @ 39
LOL
So that settles it – everyone will be investigating everyone else on the committee.
I seem to recall forgetting what I had remembered.
-GSD
We are having a real competition among the Republicans to see who is the goofiest and most vacuous.
All right Yarmouth! Bringing up that the last leak of the report came from her or her office!
THANK YOU!!!!
Someone has been reading my blog.
You’re right.
I just didn’t like his whining.
Pretty accute memory all of a sudden?
Tiny details, sounds like this was a set-up, she sure remembers all the details about this one…
spurious @ 53
She makes these nine hours sound like there were no breaks. How are these nine hours set up.
Wow she answered these questions clearly and quickly!
Mica and Burton are easily the most unlikeable.
Davis is the most effective at pushing hard but not seeming to be a totally ignorant asswipe.
Issa is the guy I’d hire to beat someones kneecaps with a lead pipe.
-GSD
Yarmouth
You need to keep this clear–GSA is supposed to have leaked the second report. Not the first one. It’s the draft report that got leaked.
GSD @ 67
Issa is a total thug. So vile.
Breaking News –
Yarmouth took out one of toothless Mitch’s faves (Ann Northup)
She tries to go into grammer when Yarmouth starts talking about Pat, Prsent , Future.
Now she’s trying to be all English major…
Arguing over how many tenses there are?
Hey, she does have an English major!
“Davis is the most effective at pushing hard but not seeming to be a totally ignorant asswipe.”
I disagree
Have you met with anyone in the WH or from the WH or with the AG, since this investigation began???
Doan: “I don’t mean to make it look like I’m being unclear.”
She does mean to be unclear. She just doesn’t want to appear so.
Hortatory subjunctive from the lady who has trouble with tense.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
[spew!] “I was using a hortatory subjunctive” when she used the verb “will”
Bob in HI
Lurita Doan, I have a problem with tenses.
But I’ll correct you on those tenses.
Credit to her, she answered it correctly, and she has a point.
Ma’am, if you know the term hortatory subjunctive, then you don’t have problems with tenses!
She has trouble with verbs?…
Listen to the English major now….
Past Present and future. what was that response from Doan? Could anyone interpret?
I thought she said I have a problem with testes!/s
emptywheel @ 78
Yarmouth discretely caled BS on her. Politely of course.
“but not seeming to be a totally ignorant asswipe.”
I disagree with that part in particular…
Doan’s starting to sound like Gonzales…
AH HA! The ABU Defense!
GSD – Issa does have some questionable thughoodlike behavior in his wiki bio. I’ll share the link at late night when I post my article on Loo Hoo and my meeting with his Deputy last Friday.
Is Chris Shays acting up again?
Wax is playing on her supposed confusion levels on everything…
emptywheel @ 63
Mary at TheLeftCoaster gives you MAJOR PROPS –
In Praise of Marcy Wheeler
emptywheel @ 63
Many of us do!!! I did, last night.
Bob in HI
Waxman “horty torty something or other, I sound like Tony soprano” or Ms. Doan
Doan is a self-serving smart-ass sophist who in my humble opinion, should get to drink from the firehose.
Sorry, that was mostly inspired by her whole tense kibitzing.
Why am I listening to you?
Issa is a sad case, not that I’m mourning for him.
He spearheaded the Grey Davis recall in California, but was too dirty to be run as a candidate to replace him, that honor went to Schwarzeneggar.
I understand trying to keep things confidential. But have these folks forgotten that leaks have ALWAYS been endemic in DC? The fact that Fitz kept his secrets was both astounding and remarkable.
Now Davis talking aobut how everything is going wrong in the world and how can she fix it.
She was wrong about the hortatory subjunctive:
Though if she were right, then it would be a clear example of retaliation.
Tom “Tool” Davis is up.
These people don’t know squat about linguistics. There are only two tenses: present and past. Future is an aspect like the imperfect, for example, that conveys habitual or uncompleted action. If you see how futures are formed in various languages, this becomes clear. As in French, je parlerai: parler (to speak) plus ai (I have) indicating an action that the speaker has some obligation to perform, i.e. in the future.
Davis covered about all the issues that the Republicans did not deal with when they had control of the agenda.
JGabriel @ 38
LOL!!!!!!!!
Now Mark Souder, pissing and moaning about a contract.
Oh, I do love it when they go into the weeds about verb tense and how Doan couldn’t resist showing off, even if she may be inaccurate. One must hook this fish on her own hubris.
Hugh @ 97
I am with Watson I thought this hearing was about whether Doan violated the Hatch Act.
I’m sorry – grammar to me is like technical talk about stereo equipment and the wiring (regardless of the color coded leads) – I get dizzy.
Ugh, HERE WE GO AGAIN – Davis
Can’t they be a bit more creative in their distraction-from-the-subject-at-hand techniques? You know, maybe a clown act or something? Maybe Burton could get into some cross-dressing? This whole “why are we here vs it’s Clinton’s fault” mantra is getting a bit tired.
Mrs. Doan, Mrs. Doan, Mrs. Doan..we got a thing…goin’ on…
This hearing is mindblowing… in that bad way. Unreal, these people are amazing. The psychology underpinning these Republicans is terrifying. Its straight up Orwell in action.
Funny, ’cause it’s all about a administration cockup…
Every time they mention GSA I keep thinking of Gay-Straight Alliance. We had a major fight over establishing a GSA club at my school a few years ago. (The Club won!)
jesus – there really needs to be some relevancy requirement with regard to questioning and speechifying.
Hugh @ 97
Is this why English is considered ‘backwards’ in relation to other languages?
Well, I agree that Shay seemed to be courting a get together.
But, watching this, I can understand why most people don’t want to closely pay attention to politics.
Major deflection of the issue at hand…..
Mass transit issue -
-ck- @ 88
Marcy’s officially a “Bush Fury”!!!
Go get’em, Marcy!
Bob in HI
More live blogging please. I don’t get CSpan 3 and I can’t get the stream either.
Thanks.
Souder, I’m sure GSA has an omsbubsman.
What a waste of air.
Welch of the sacred state of Vermont!
Peter Welch. Here we go.
I think Souder is offering Doan a deal.
LS @ 104
707!!!
Subcommittee on Spakovsky adjourned. Turn on Cspan and the first thing I see is Issa talking alma maters, Kent, Vassar with Lurita, and the chugging some water like a jock.
-ck- @ 88
From her pen to the ear of the bookers @ Keith Olbermann.
kathleen @ 101
It is very much about language and how it is used to obstruct communication, to obfuscate, and to lie.
emptywheel @ 95
I believe a strong response regarding why they are questioning Doan right now….
Sorry, Noen, it’s just so weird. The Republicans have the heads under her skirt and bringing up any and every issue other than the Hatch act. Then, when the Dems try to ask a question, she is stalling and using their time to be argumentative. She hasn’t given very many straight answers. It’s hard to blog this.
But, we’ll try harder.
Back from attending gorgeous girl her grapejuice and music…
Vermont Democrat now questions.
Reclaim time.
Special Counsel Hatch Act statement.
She claims ignorance as a defense.
She was definitely playing dumb the first time.
Wordsmith @ 110
I don’t understand the concept of backwards with regard to languages.
Peter Welch up…Questioning Doan re: the political presentation and the propriety of political organizing on government time. She’s still dodging the question.
She says that the investigation hasn’t ended, Welch produces letter from special counsul saying it does…
Welch repeats his question. She refuses to answer, other than to say that ‘there’s a process in place’…
shit. i can’t use use my own language correctly even if i stick to the present tense.
and even i know newspeak when i hear it.
Hugh @ 128
Noun / verb construct.
hayduke @ 106
Unfortunately, there’s no Ultimate Panel of Truth and Consequences to immediately expose their collusion and conspiracy, although any reasonable, free-thinking person sees it clearly.
It will take a future dissection, after-the-fact, to unveilall the lies and twisted obfuscations.
But there’s no doubt, the Republicans have openly perpetuated an ongoing fraud, and their own Congressional record will prove that to historical slueths of the future.
If only we could get the WHOLE truth NOW.
But with these Republicans enabling “The Big Lie part 1,137 : Lurita Doan division” it creates a pattern of oversight frustration.
It’s amazing how sharp her memory is, and how well she knows the rules and regulations governing her office.
We’re going to send it to the process we have a process on political things so we send these things to the process.
Deny delay obfuscate
Your attorney says the power point presentation raises Hatch act ramifications
Peter Welch is getting rally, rally irritated with Lurita answering questions he didn’t ask. Welch: What if I am Karl Rove and I have a greaaat chart i.d.-ing Dem targets, can you put together a lunch?
Lurita: No we have a process. I would send it to the ethics office.
Noonan @ 133
Except when she doesn’t
Issa: If there is a flaw in the question, you should be allowed to correct that flaw.
The test for the Dems will come after 01/20/09. If the Justice Dept doesn’t drag her and thousands of other criminal into a grand jury room, then this country is really screwed. I’m not hopeful.
EW–notfernuthin, you’re my 3rd stop every morning, without fail, right after Josh and Firedoglake. I lurk, but I read!
Issa called Welch an “interrogator” ?!?
Its amazing how she can remember a letter her attorney wrote verbatim!
Maybe it’s the image on my monitor, but, Darrell Issa looks like Soupy Sales to me.
Issa up, asking Doan to explain why the questions asked by Welch were asked incorrectly…Christ.
Issa is a a**a again…
Issa apologia because she’s not a lawyer and can’t determine if the power point pres was legal or not..
emptywheel @ 63
Hey I read your blog.
Wordsmith @ 131
I don’t know of any other language that has terms like “back up to the pump”, just how do you “back up?”
But considering the price of gas, I guess the “back-up to the pump” imagery works.
Doan is so clear when she answers the Republicans leading questions, but gets confused with tenses when it comes to the Democrats questions.
Issa – Hatch Act violations are no big deal, everyone does it…
Hugh @ 121
Which has long been a major repub tool.
Issa just admitted to mass violation of the Hatch Act!!!!
It’s hubris that one body says that the other body doesn’t doe something.
Waxman: explaining the difference between politics and substance of ethics ??
Issa the “everybody does it” argument!
Issa: and not for minute do I pretend there’s not a difference between the rules for congress and the GSA…
Yah, right, that’s exactly what you were tyin’ to do.
Sorry for 123 above. I thought my comment pointed out that Modern Greek has this hortatory subjunctive. It is the Greek Aς (Let) followed by the Modern Greek, first-person, plural subjunctive. Sorry for the mistake, and as every thanks to Marcy.
Issa reminds me of one of those guys that comes up to a woman in a club, really drunk, and just won’t go away.
Watson calling BS on Issa
Issa: Act tough or you are toast!!
Whoops that was Eleanor Holmes Norton calling BS
RickinSF @ 126
She is alternately playing dumb and showing off, always arrogantly.
Poor Ms. Doan…her employees are against her, the special counsel are against her, Waxman hates her…’cause Issa says so…
mui @ 157
Or offers her money.
Issa “just to answer” my own question.
Is this kind of how it’s maybe possible that Saddam might possibly have weapons of mass destruction.
O.O!
Issa is a dirtbag.
Wow, go Sarbanes, though!
Latin!
Tenses!
Boy! There’s a lot of pissing here.
Issa just stroking her.
Waxman: Boy, am I glad I gave you that extra time!
John Sarbanes giving Doan an English lesson.
Marcy, do you have a bug in John’s ear?
Sarbanes mother reads Emptywheel! (
Sarbanes up and said his mother would appreciate his statement. He is lecturing her on the hortatory tense and that the statement in the power point was the perfect example of hortatory.
Now he’s damning her with praise for her obfuscatory skills. LOL!
Dakine – it wasn’t Watson.
Sarbanes: Sportive with language.
Ohhhh….she’s met her match grammatically. Thank God for Latin teachers and mothers!
Sarbanes: You are an arrogant bitch!
Sarbanes: I’ve never seen a witness have so much fun, and treat the hearing like a sport!
Sarbanes knows his grammar.
Says she’s very sporting. And breath-taking! in her lack of contrition.
I think I’m in love…with John Sarbanes.
Woodhall Hollow @ 166
And took it one step further!
Ha! Sarbanes just owned the English scholar!
So, what are we learning new here?
Too much BS for me.
LS @ 163
Confirmed: Issa is my ex-husband!!!
Was Sarbannes ever a trial lawyer?
Sarbanes on the horatory subjunctive…nailing Doan on her interpretation…
“The lack of humility you’ve displayed is astonishing”…
Sarbanes: If the statement was made, would it be a Hatch violation?
Doan: Not up to me, depends on the context.
Sarbanes! The lack of contrition and humility you have displayed is breathtaking.
He says you view this – meeting? – with this committee as a kind of sport
We got a wolf in sheeps clothing here. Sarbanes appears mild mannered but he can bite.
demi aka dmoore @ 170
Yeah, when I saw her I realized my mistake…
spurious @ 161
Yeah, I’m catching that now. Wanna bet which “portrayal” will be on tonight’s news?
Margot @ 175
have not seen someone have this much fun with a committee, a sport, lack of humiliation or contrition. Yes Sarbanes
This is frustrating.
Sarbanes has a very cool, disarming demeanor, and then at the end he usually drops a nice grenade.
LS @ 172
You are having too much fun with this = your contempt is showing.
Sarbanes: You understand the Hatch Act.
Sarbanes is not fully clear on the grammar–the subjunctive is not a tense.
You’ve used the word context hundreds of times!
Sarbannes is hitting her right where she needs to be hit–calling her on her “game”!
Lurita must have been the only Repug at Vassar.
Woodhall Hollow @ 166
Yeah!!! And I never even took Latin–I just use the Toobz!
Sarbanes: Egregious violation of Hatch Act.
kdh22 He’s your what? Are you serious? Yikes.
Sarbanes is very gently tearing her defenses down by playing to her
I don’t understand how she can claim all these things are subjective and contextual. When I worked as a fed or even as a contractor scum, it was quite clear and straight forward.
demi aka dmoore @ 178
Nada.
“‘context’ used hundreds of times”
Jeez, no kidding. aka obfuscating. “Context” seems to be the new “I don’t recall”.
kdh22 @ 178
No Way!
Jesus!
She keeps saying she doesn’t want to speculate on the Hatch act!
But as the head of a major gov agency, it is her job to speculate–ie, to think about it, to try to understand it, and to make a fucking decision!
New Thread:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..v/#respond
Languages. Logic. Tenses. We’re sure in grammar school today.
New Thread.
mui @ 140
He meant “inquisitor.”
Here’s something I commented over at TNH on one of EW’s posts a while back, still FITZ!!!
ALICE IN WAXMANLAND?
“OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!”
Poor, prurient little Monica. That big old bully Henry Waxman just won’t cut her a break, no matter how innocent her legal line-crossing might have been.
Someone on the right should do a medieval-setting parody of the Goodling hearings, with poor, innocent Monica G, like a lost little Alice in Waxmanland.
Imagine with me, for a moment…
…there’s the bo-peepish, squeaky-voiced princess standing before the wicked Waxman, bald beneath his flowing powdered wig, slamming his over-sized gavel down whenever Princess Monica tries to “tell the truth” and defend herself…
Can’t you see them now, just visualize the White Knights (HA!) Shays and Davis and fat friar Mica, along with the evil Bishop Issa, as they all stumble in. The knights are wearing oversized armor, clanking and rattling as they each come clumsily to her defense, compulsively leering at her cleavage as they take their turns pledging their lives to protect this damsel in distress.
In their Inquisitor’s robes, “Democrat” Congressmen and women pick mercilessly away at her, with harsh, squawking, outrageous accusations that exaggerate her innocent acts of personal patriotism.
Her lip quivers, but she stands firm, chin up.
And when her lip begins to quiver, Sirs Chris and Tom, Bishop Darrell and fat old friar Mica all come unglued, they rudely interrupt the Inquisition, waving their swords in the air at invisible adversaries, demanding the Inquisitors’ tongues be cut out.
It would make for a true comedy of errors…
And to think, even after grovelling so publicly of late, Sir Davis still wants to be a Senator. If ever there was someone deserving of the George Allen treatment by “the blogs” it is Davis.
GSD @ 76
yup
Sarbanes just told her he can’t imagine her [being shy at meetings]. aaannnnd made her blow up BANG! woohoo..
break time!
Hatch did nail her her with her own words. She cites the context of what was said, Sarbanes notes her approach to any topic contitutes intent within the style she says it.
Important for pursuit of affirmative measures.
carolyn urban @ 182
I am so glad he brought this up. I’ve watched many of these hearings as I know we all have, and I have never seen a witness with this kind of flippant, disrepectful attitude towards Congress before. I thought it was just me.
Wordsmith @ 132
There are various ways of categorizing languages. So English is said to be a SVO (subj verb obj) whereas Latin in this view would be SOV but there is no notion of backwardness here. You can also refer to these as verb second or verb final.
You can distinguish between nominative and ergative languages, between those that are heavily inflected and those that aren’t, between those that prepose qualifiers and/or clitics and those that post pose them: the red book vs le crayon jaune for example.
Sarbanes strikes a nerve and she loses her cool! The ice princess is cracking.
Sarbanes: Even if it happened, it was one remark…but even that is too much. You’ve stated that you are a direct person…you ‘directness’ gives that statement a level of import that makes this into a major issue.
Doan: That’s a leap in logic.
Waxman calls recess…
RickinSF @ 184
Brave widdle victim.
new thread — Doan Pt IV
Thank you. Lonita started to spin out. “That is a huge leap in logic” in response to Sarbannes saying she did break the Hatch Act. Threw up her hands and everything.
Thank you Waxman for a break. And thank you for shutting Shays up. He wanted to know how many people are left for questions…Waxman said he tell him AFTER the break. Thanks Henry.
Diane Watson giving it to Davis. I love her. Oooh I’d stay back from her nails if I were him.
Fresh thread up and running. The committee is taking a break in testimony.
Woodhall Hollow @ 190
And he hit her BUTTON! I loved that “leap in logic” and that cute little throwing out of the hands and shaking the head.
DAvis & Watson are pointing fingers at each other.
Oh-oh – show me the hand!
Here! Ya stupid fukc- look!
Mandrake @ 206
What is absolutely disgusting is that the Republicans aren’t disgusted
Ok, so I forgot to change “Goodling” to “Doan” in that last post, but it still fits!
Curious, how these Electra ladies are getting so much suport from these fatherly Republicans…
The Repubs really tried to say that Doan is being questioned because she is “black, a woman and a Republican” I can’t believe she allowed them to do this.
In her opening statement Doan said she would take responsibility and not blame others. Yet she allowed the Repubs to shift the topic, blame her race and gender for the questioning, and never not once demonstrated any respect for the process nor did she take responsibility for anything at all.
JEP @ 216
- uh – “fatherly”???
surely you jest…
JEP @ 203
See how similar they are?
spurious @ 187
Sorry, I find the arrogance contemptuous and Sarbanes pretty much said the same thing. I should not have called her a bitch. Mea Culpa.
Adie @ 218
surely…
Hugh @ 207
Welll….hmmm -
In learning Spanish, French, and German, and in speaking Norwegian with my grandparents and other relatives, I noticed that the structure was different and in traveling heard it described as being ‘backwards or reversed’ in relation to English.
Other than, I’m not knowledgeable on grammer, tenses, etc, enough to speak definitively.
Hugh @ 122
I know why I was not an English Major. I heard Doan say “horty torty something or other”
Thanks for all of the insights by the attorneys and those in the know.
demi aka dmoore @ 194
mui @ 198
Perhaps I’m mistaken. But, by the way he acts and presents himself, he could be the twin of my ex-husband. You know we all have a twin out there somewhere?!!?
JEP @ 219
Woodhall Hollow @ 179
Sarbanes’ dad is Paul Sarbanes, until 2006, Dem Senator from MD. I’m sure there were some interesting discussions around HIS dinner table growing up.
And if his MOM reads FDL/TNH, probably his dad does too.
Cardin now has “his” [elder Sarbanes’] seat.
LS @ 220
Silly me. I thought you meant that I(LS) was having too much fun with this…tee, hee (because I was..). Or were you? :)
“REP. BILBRAY QUESTIONS: Talking about himself, having been an at risk GOP candidate in 2006, and the meanness of using statements made prior to public service actions.”
Just want to remind everyone that Bilbray was rushed to the Congress to be sworn in BEFORE the California legal process challenging the election had even been heard.
States’ rights and respect for elections? Not a leg to stand on.
kdh22 @ 224
Oh yes. No need to feel regrets. The bad-ex thing happens to a good percentage of all of us.