Don’t look now, but we have a new document dump tonight from the RNC email files. Former White House Political Director Sara Taylor, who has since resigned from her post where she reported to Rove, writes in one email:
I normally don’t like attacking our friends, but since Bud Cummins is talking to everyone – why don’t we tell the deal on him?
And guess what? This path leads back to Rove. I know. I’m stunned as well.
Justice Department documents released tonight include new emails linking Karl Rove’s top aides — former White House political director Sara Taylor, who resigned last month, and her deputy Scott Jennings — to the U.S. attorney scandal. Congressional subpoenas have been authorized, but not approved, for both Taylor and Jennings.
The emails, from February 2007, all relate to the case of Rove-protege Tim Griffin, who was installed as U.S. attorney in Arkansas without Senate confirmation. Griffin’s predecessor, Bud Cummins, was fired to make way for Griffin.
Pat Leahy is as shocked and morose about this as you and I are:
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said in a statement tonight:
These documents, which should have been released by the Department long ago, provide further evidence that White House officials like former Political Director Sara Taylor were deeply involved in the mass firings of well-performing prosecutors. The Department of Justice should not be reduced to a political arm of the White House. We need an end to the White House’s stonewalling of our investigations so we can learn the truth.
Here’s the big question: when they come for KKKarl, will the screen go dark, or will we actually get to see what happens?
Poor KKKarl. Looks like not enough GOPerps have totally lost their memories, like poor old Uncle Junior.
Fetch me a hankie. I’ll need to wipe the butter from my chin.
UPDATE: Marcy takes a quick gander at the emails. Also diarist jeremybloom at the Big Orange Satan.
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Pach!
not zed!
First?
Pach!!
Now to read the post. I’ll let folks downstairs know Late Night is up.
hey Pach!
good evening ladies and germs
when they come for KKKarl, I want lots and lots of sunlight!
I am SHOCKED to hear thet the white house may have been involved. SHOCKED!!!
I saw one e-mail with Ms. Sara using her gwb43 e-mail address. Naughty girl that one! Wonder what other naughty things she has done?! She needs to confess to Waxman and make things right for her damned soul.
((Waives to LoudounLib)
Everybody, everybody, everybody loves Friday Night’s docu dump.
Go FDL. Evenin’, Pach.
What kind of fuckery is this? I hope it’s the kind of fuckery that makes Karl Rove sweat like the disgusting blubbery swine he is.
hey pach, you missed some butter on the right corner of your mouth.
‘tell the deal’? What could she mean by that? Hmmmm.
TexB @ 9
I’m not.
(( waves back at petedownunder ))
Corn poppin’ from now til impeachment. Get me some butter futures.
Hey Pach!
“…subpoenas have been authorized, but not approved…?
WTF? Any idea why not? What’s the frickin’ hold up? Enough of this! Senatoe Leahy!
I’m getting so confused. First the Friday Nite Document dump was on Fridays, then it moved to Thursdays.
Then the Friday Nite Document dump happened on a Tuesday.
Did they totally skip Wednesday or did I miss a dump?
Happy Loving Day!
Hey Pach:
Now will Leahy get off the schnide and subpoena Rove’s sorry ass?
Suzanne @ 20
Maybe there’ll be another dump tomorrow.
You know, when my computer is down at work I say “I feel like I have no arms” and then it is fixed. I feel like I have no arms here. What the hell else can I do? Other than preaching to the choir?
Love this part about Tim Griffin:
Long-term career?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
According to Greg Palast, it’s not about ‘loyal Bushies’, but vote suppression – the caging lists need to be justified by lots of ‘fraudulent voters’. Those who don’t bring vote fraud cases are putting Karl & Co (and the White House) at serious risk.
I never know what day it is – I thought these docs were dumped last Friday, were there more today? Its Tuesday in the US, Wednesday in Oz. Right?
Suzanne @ 14
That’s not butter.
*COUGH!!*
Suzanne @ 20
They’re messing with your brain dear. Don’t think too hard
EvilDrPuma @ 13
Well, there goes dinner.
Evenin’, pups!
Yep, time to tell the deal on KKKarl.
Hey TRex!
Trex in the house – now go back to your room and finish that book…
Hey TRex – how goes?
Mutant Poodle @ 30
Did I mention that Karl Rove makes Jabba the Hutt look svelte? I think I should have mentioned that.
TRex @ 28
Leave Bud Cummins outta this! (ok…I’ll leave now…)
So, anyone know what sort of gun laws are in Albania? I mean the way Dumbya dived into that crowd and lost his watch, he musta felt pretty sure no one was gonna get him? Or was it just all that love?
Evening all. How’s life in the Lake tonight. I see we have both Pach and TRex with us, a very special event.
Didn’t Waxman decide not to immunitize Sara Taylor, that he had what he needed and didn’t accept her request for immunity?
bg @ 37
It was his Albanian base.
Suzanne @ 34
Fine.
I hope you’re not all expecting a finished book when I get back tomorrow night. My brain has been in the ‘off’ position for a week. It’s practically a legume.
bg, on KO tonight, they showed a different camera angle that showed boosh putting the watch into his pocket.
Looks like they weren’t ready for DiFi want she started kicking the anthill:
Well, maybe Albania could become his Home Base.
TRex @ 41
A well-dressed legume? With a telephone?
LoudounLib @ 40
Let’s make him King of Albania!
Hey TRex:
I thought you were on vacation.
Heard you on Goldy’s show. It’s great that you are supporting local progressive radio.
TeddySanFran @ 39
Yeah – that’s a Marcy theory. Go to TNH; and Marcy explains it all
bg @ 44
Can we just give him to the Albanians? I mean they actually like the little turkey.
Hi TRex!
Suzanne @ 42
Someone mentioned earlier this same angle was shown by Brian Williams. I speculate it’s the GE animatronic version of the event, digitized to include W pocketing his own watch.
One of my proudest possessions is a bumper sticker from one of Leahy’s campaigns sent to me by a cousin in Vermont. It sits on its rightful place on top of my computer; a little dusty, but it’s good!
TRex @ 41
Heh. I like “legume.” It’s a funny word.
Alicia @ 26
My guess is that the vote fraud campaign was one motivation. It’s certainly a common theme in the US Attorney firings. I suspect, though, that there may have been more than one motivation. In Cummins’ case, it looks like Karl Rove wanted an ally in that office. Carol Lam’s firing may have been because she was finding too many corrupt Republican politicians (not that it’s a difficult thing these days).
It’s a bit hard to figure out motives when all you have to go by is actions and their results. Hopefully, we’ll be seeing Karl Rove’s and others’ e-mail before long.
is legume pronounced leg you me?
Why-! Yes, indeedy, ma’am!
But oh, lord, I’m broke, now, after that whole car-towing thing. It could get really ugly by the end of the month.
I suspect Leahy & Co. don’t want to throw the switch on their cute little subpoenas for fear of being revealed as impotent in the face of Bush’s intransigence-as a bunch of disregarded subpoenas would surely reveal them to be. Unless or until the Congress is willing to “burn their boats”, it seems to me that they’re bluffing. Sadly, if the Congress really IS irrelevant and we really ARE living in the Unitary Executive World, then, the sooner we know, the better.
Has Karl been out and about? Or has he been spending all his time with his lawyers? Has he disappeared like he did before the Valerie Plame indictments?
I do hope he’s somewhere working madly, trying to stay out of jail with no time left for his nefarious deeds.
There’s more goodies…
“FYI -our USA in SD is refusing to resign (though we’ve given her until 5pm eastern); recommendation that she be removed immediately should be over to you by the end of the day.”
I don’t think that has been reported on yet…
Sampson gets San Diego FBI agent fired for speaking out, and more… I’ve got a diary up over at DailyKos; check it out.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/12/214634/984
…It’s going real dark, baby.
;>)
Suzanne @ 55
Lay-GYOOM.
I love it.
Kevster @ 47
Hey, thanks! I’ve been having a lot of fun with that. Although with Goldy, it can be a little hard to get a word in edgewise.
Also, five of eight fired USAs were on some kind of commission on Native American issues. I believe Marcy has written about this. Native America Calling discussed it yesterday I think.
One of them (woman from MI, perhaps) reported that AGAG did not support Native America, maybe more blunt than that.
Santa Monica Jeremy @ 59
wow. just plain wow.
TRex @ 62
We were all really wishing he’d let you actually talk, and also kill that L&O sound effect!
Howdy, y’all. I may be trying to work, here, but I am out here stalking!
Rove and bush, now on one horse, pause by the trail to look back
In the distance, they see a white Panama skimmer and a cloud of dust.
Bush “Who are those guys?”
Rove “I’ve been thinking about Bolivia.”
Cut to
Leahy, wearing a white straw skimmer, expressionless in the glare of the sun.
Leahy, over the hoofbeats “…learn the truth.”
bg @ 63
AGAG refused to investigate well documented voter suppression against Native Americans (a common occurance in Indian country).
I know better than to click on a DarkBlack link without having copious amounts of brain bleach and eye scrubber on hand.
Dayam, DB, I didn’t know kkkarl had such a hairy back.
Wish I didn’t know that.
Renee in Ohio @ 21
Renee. Happy snappy!
stratocruiser @ 67
Nice. Just one slight tweak: it’ll be Paraguay for these banditos Yanquis.
TRex, still here?
See my new name?
Hello Suzanne and all pups.
I been readin’ Gore’s book. It’s good. It’s really good.
Suzanne @ 69
Yep. Had to go dig mine out from under the sink.
darkblack is evil
*g*
I believe in NM, as many as 9 out of 10 Native American voters just did not vote for President in 2004. Imagine, they voted all the way down the ballot, but no votes for President 9 out of 10 times. Amazing. Palast has this in his book.
EDP- I was thinking about that, but you got it right. or leg-yum (long U)
Ouch!
That’s dark.
demi aka dmoore @ 72
I just finished chapter 1 today. I agree: it’s good.
EvilDrPuma @ 71
They do have a certain fondness for fascist mass murders, like Dr. Mengele IIRC.
TeddySanFran @ 74
In the spirit of typical Konservatives everywhere…
“Am not”
;>)
RonD @ 19
You have to load the gun before you aim to shoot anything with it. Sen. Leahy’s gun is loaded. He’s just waiting for the right moment to shoot.
Last year, I started a series over at MyDD called “Plamegate Chess“. Nobody much seemed interested, but the same concept applies here with Leahy’s committee and Waxman’s. There’s a game of chess going on. Georgie boy is the Black King. The white pieces have been picking off black pawns, and are about ready to pick off a knight (Scooter). The game is just heating up.
Bob in HI
BTW, updates up top for those into refreshing, if you feel the need to, you know, freshen up.
Helen @ 48
The Wheel had a big day today, recharged after visiting with Momwheel or whatever it was. Seven posts, covering Condi using the WSJ to talk not-talk about pardoning Libby, a little Schloz, Lurita, Musharraf, wrapping up with a quick hit at the new emails which we know are getting a very good read.
But the best one, that I haven’t seen discussed elsewhere, is “Ut Oh, Madam Secretary,” about Waxman’s love note to Condi saying that he’s delaying her scheduled 6/19 testimony until he and his 250-strong team of investigators and lawyers (or whatever it is)talks to State and CIA folk who are not chatting pretty freely and turning over documents as well. Big Henry is taking his time now, turning the tables on She Who Would Not Testify.
Pretty great stuff, not seeing it elsewhere. Anyone seeing anything? The letters to Condi and Tenet are on the Committee website.
bg @ 37
His detail look like they were trying to contain a madman.
Good God, Agnes.
DrDick @ 79
Then they’ll love our sociopathic Toddler-in-Chief.
TRex @ 41
Does that mean its fixing Nitrogen somewhere in your head?
Bob in HI
TRex @ 62
Yeah, Goldy can talk a lot but keep it up. It’s good radio.
I choose to believe that Waxman knows what he is doing. Remember, drip, drip, drip.
Timing is everything.
We wait and we watch.
I agree that the house of cards may be coming down. Well, a girl can dream, can’t she?
Bob Schacht @ 86
I thought I heard somebody giggling, now that you mention it.
EvilDrPuma @ 85
Please don’t insult toddlers.
What is happening tomorrow, besides Hans the clever’s confirmation tomorrow? What are they trying to distract us from with these freshly released documents?
Alicia @ 46
Perfect! They can have him!
Bob in HI
I was just over at Marcyland, The Next Hurrah, catching up on the day’s output. I hadn’t seen the Waxman to Rice letter postponing their little meeting. It is “Don’t call us, we will call you” type of letter stating we are talking with everyone else first then we can chat with you.
I think Condi’s panties will be in a wad really quick.
Ut oh, Madam Secretary
Fetch me a hankie. I’ll need to wipe the butter from my chin.
Priceless.
Colbert: “Of course, Scooter is innocent.”
Wasn’t the last document dump right before Monica Goodfella’s testimony?
RonD @ 95
If it were anybody but Colbert, I’d probably be trying to squeeze my head back through the hole I just put in the ceiling.
evening all – i think i need a jolt or something – is it me or am i not getting all of this – subpoenas, hearings and emails and yet bushco is STILL operating with impunity… they couldnt even get a lousy no-confidence vote for abu – WTF???????????? god i hate these people!!!!!!
RonD @ 95
I thought Jon and Stephen were pretty good tonight. Similar stuff to what we were talking about today. Hey, were they lurking here?
Or, are we just on top of it all?
demi aka dmoore @ 99
We are AHEAD of it all.
AZ Matt @ 93
Methinks Madam Secretary is going to need to change her drawers pretty shortly.
Waxman snark via Marcy:
“The Committee has been conducting interviews and depositions of senior government officials with knowledge of prewar intelligence about Iraq’s nuclear program, including George Tenet, former Director of Central Intelligence; John McLaughlin, former Deputy Director of Central Intelligence; Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell; and Carl Ford, former Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research.The Committee plans to conduct additional interviews over the coming weeks. In addition, the CIA and State Department have begun to provide important documents to the Committee.I hope you will not be inconvenienced by this postponement. The interviews, depositions, and documents are illuminating the Committee’s inquiry and will provide the predicate for a more thorough hearing with you.”
bg @ 63
Yes. A bunch of times. Its one of her best series, IMHO.
Bob in HI
I love it when Henry is multi-tasking but no doubt he wears his staff out.
I am starting to get the feeling that we may be approaching critical mass on the scandal filled Boosh administration.
Dare I hope?
I hope you will not be inconvenienced by this postponement.
I love that! Like, maybe she’ll have to rearrange her shopping schedule or private piano recitals.
She’s on my do not like list.
Suzanne @ 105
(Crossing fingers, toes, and eyes)
I just watched a Colbert that had Tommy Chong on it. It was the hardest I’ve laughed in 3 months.
Was that tonight’s episode? More please.
Suzanne @ 105
Oh yes. Hope away. As I said above, I think it’s time for the House of Cards to come crashing down.
Y’all heard what Powell said on Sunday. And people are starting to Give It Up.
Henry had Mary Peters and Condi Rice in his sights today and tomorrow the entertainment will be Lurita coming back for an encore performance under the bright lights of Oversight!
bg @ 102
Hah. Now that’s an end run around her blowing off of the subpeonas and general arrogance. *snickers* I love how it’s coached in such nice language and still conveying the sarcasm. Gotta love Waxman and his group of staffers.
Suzanne! PLEASE! Give me some hope, too…I’m just not feeling it. I’m starting to feel they’re going to get away with it, all of it, and whether he’s around or not, it’ll be Bush’s world we live in for the forseeable future.
Balrog @ 108
Hey balrog! How’s the little one?
Suzanne @ 96
No – there was doc dump right after she dissed them. She said AG “told me what to say; or what he remembered” and the doc dump told all about how she got permission to fire people.
Suzanne @ 105
I’m eagerly awaiting the day that it all just busts wide open.
bg @ 75
bg, I didn’t know this.
Man. And I thought Nixon was bad.
AZ Matt @ 104
I’d like to know more about it, but I think Waxman’s staff is pretty big. As I said in 83 above (taking a little credit for the first Marcyland’s big day reference; the Condi post is just awesome good news), I think it was over a hundred people. It was sizable before 11/07/06, lying in wait, and I believe it has been beefed up since then. I’ve been waiting to see a good description of the Waxman’s operation and its extent, so if anybody has seen one it would be appreciated.
Of course, it just makes you think about all of the heckuva job activity in Lieberman’s Senate oversight committee…
Suzanne @ 105
No. The party-line voting on the Gonzo vote makes clear that there is no hope while GW is in office.
Balrog @ 108
Hey Balrog! Yes it was tonight’s episode, and I laughed hard too. How Tommy Chong kept a (relatively) straight face, I can’t imagine!
No, Balrog, say it ain’t so!
Maybe you’re just sleep deprived. It happens with little ones.
We gotta keep the faith, man.
Balrog @ 118
Ut oh, Madam Secretary
Methinks Madam Secretary is going to need to change her drawers pretty shortly.
I, personally, can’t wait.
We need to keep focused on Post-Bush.
Damn I missed the Colbert thing
Suzzanne – that quote thing I mentioned last thread – at 121. I read the comment under mine before I hit “submit comment”
How much of a staff does Henry have? Anybody know? I wonder about Leahy too. Those staffers must be some smart cookies!
Well, it’s been real.
I stayed too late last night. I’m saying
Good Night Sweethearts…well it’s time to go…read more Gore and zzzzzzzz.
OK Completely OT
I had a blast at DemocracyFest. The Deaniacs in attendance treated me like visiting royalty and I ended up playing four sets over two days.
John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Chris Dodd were there and best of all, Howard Dean, who was on his game big time.
But as Paul Simon said,
“It was late in the evening, and I blew that room away.”
Paul Johnson’s Pics of the event are first rate.
Pachacutec @ 124
If my son’s viewing habit are any indication, it will be on 4x tomorrow.
Balrog @ 123
When all the Ewoks dance.
Pachacutec @ 124
Don’t know where you are, but it’s up again at 1:30am (EST)
Pachacutec @ 124
its on again at 1:30 :)
TexB @ 129
Is that a bad thing?
HELLO BALROG!!! How’s the little wee Garrett?
Miss you around here!
EvilDrPuma @ 133
More Colbert is more gooder.
alias 111, etc.
The best thing about Waxman’s letter is how it will go into the file with all of the other letters that he sent that she completely ignored.
The beauty of the sequence is breathtaking.
–We have some questions we’d really like to ask you. Respond by letter or come and see us for a chat.
–You haven’t responded, and we’re reminding you that we sent a letter awhile back?
–You know that you didn’t respond to anything we’ve asked you right?
–Umm, did you notice how we just won the House back after 12 years? So I guess we’re in charge and I’d like to just remind you that there were some unanswered questions, from a few years ago now. Still curious…
–Okay, thanks for everything/nothing, you’re testifying on June 19, fyi. You might want to go over your notes.
–Hey girl! Guess what!–lots of news and notes coming in, CIA, State, really taking up some time keeping track of it all. Gonna have to hold off on that June 19 thing while we put it all together, k? Get back to you.
Somebody else could do a much better job with all this… it’s gonna be fun.
DrDick @ 135
He also watches Jon Stewart 3-4x a day.
DrDick @ 135
More Dick is more gooder – Who said that?
Helen @ 131
Ah, but will I be?
Mummy’s need extra beauty sleep
zhiv @ 136
Oh no, I think you’ve done a fine job with that. All that’s missing is a permission slip to go shoe-shopping until they subpoena her.
TexB @ 137
Absolutely the best news sources on TV (just look at the studies on how informed viewers of those shows are compared to regular news shows).
Balrog @ 123
Would that it would help..at that point, we’ve lost. The new paradigm will be established. Warrantless wiretapping and surveillance, rampant cronyism, “enemy combatant” status, politicized justice and intelligence, an emasculated Congress-all the mechanisms of a police state. The new reality of the post-Bush world.
TRex @ 28
TRex, I’m severely disappointed with your willpower, you have fasted One Day, out of your purported week of fasting!!! And, How’s the book coming along??? Hmmm… Inquiring minds want to know!!! *g*
Good night, Demi! The best of all possible tomorrows to you.
RonD
Best to you too!
Going back to the post – what do we do? When I was young and stupid (many many yrs ago) Gloria Steinem said “We want women to be involved, but they always want to give us time; what we really need is money” Is the problem here money? Why isn’t anyone listening?
Balrog @ 108
Hey, Balrog!
Are you available for a gig over at the White House? You know, to drag about 4 top WH dudes down into the Deep Pit that you dragged Gandalf into?
I mean, don’t you think that George, KKKarl, Dick and Alberto need a little vacation? I’m sure you could show them a grand old time!
Bob in HI
Our wee little cyber-son.
TexB @ 113
Pachacutec @ 124
It will be on again tomorrow night. In Cali it comes on at 8:30.
Aack … Aack … need air … gasping for breath … spent the last 2 hours drowning in an Ocean(s 13) of Testosterone … pant … wheeze …
… Pitt, Clooney, Pacino, Garcia, Cheadle, Gould’s frilly shirts ... I hope I’m not pregnant !!!
Petrocelli @ 150
MMMMMMMMmmmmmm I mean yewww.
Hi Petro, you had me at Clooney ;-)
Thanks Rayne. High praise coming from you.
I just got corrected by bmaz for talking about emails saying that a South Dakota USA had refused to resign… ummm, I guess that turned out to be San Diego and Carol Lam.
So I take what I can get.
All hail Waxman. Leahy, Schumer, and Whitehouse are pretty great too, and even DiFi is doing a good job pulling her oar.
My big question all day is whether the purpose served by the no confidence vote is blowing Lieberman’s cover, and Reid can finally have the reason/guts to shut him down. When I see what Waxman, Leahy, and the rest are doing I just get angry at Sanctimonious Joe, but of course that’s a way of life here at FDL…
LoudounLib @ 152
I’m just glad I didn’t see it in the White House … Bush doesn’t have a Plan B !!! *g*
OT but damn facsinating …
NY Times link
There is so much meat in those documents; Marcy’s probably having a field day parsing them.
Ken Lee of EOP refers to Lam as “one of the USAs under the replacement plan” in an email to Sampson sent the week after the Pearl Harbor dismissals; Lee further asks “if there were any issues/problems when se was (presumably) notified of this plan last week?”
Where’s the plan, Sampson?? It wasn’t just a chicken scratched list on a discarded piece of paper floating in your left hand drawer; it was a PLAN, as in conspiracy.
I’m also fond of the chick-to-chick email that Goodling sent to Paulose, pointing out that Tim Griffin is getting hassled about his interim appointment even though he is an experienced prosecutor with an Oxford education.
Hah. Even Goodling must know her RegentU education is a piece of crap if she groks the imprimatur Oxford can convey.
Y’all talk about this today?
Poisoned Patriots, Contaminated Drinking Water at Camp LeJeune.
LoudounLib @ 152
Yowza….me too. I’m really going now. Just had to stop by one more time while I walked by to shut down the house. Now, with Petro’s comment, hummmm, I might have trouble going to sleep.
Petrocelli @ 150
Um – would I f*#k george ; is that your question? Yup
zhiv @ 153
I’ll have to check the context, bmaz is likely correct.
But there was some serious problem in South Dakota, too, not reported as part of the Gonzales 8 (and then 9); I have that USA on my list as one to research because of the weirdness in that office, likely due to either Native American voting or the abortion law changes in that state last year. Don’t be too hard on yourself as I first thought South Dakota when I saw SD, too, knowing what I know about that office.
edit: Steve Mullins, SD (South Dakota), was recess appointed January 2006. Ahem. But you’ll note that SD state legislature approved a bill in February 2006 that outlawed abortion (until voters rejected it by ballot in November 2006).
Mary McCurnin @ 151
I would hope you weren’t pregnant, the outcome would be atrocious!!! *g*
demi aka dmoore @ 158
All I’m saying is, if you see this movie … protect yourself !!! *g*
Ohh almost forgot … Matt Damon !
I gotta hit it. Too late last night!
AZ Matt @ 155
You’re right, that is fascinating. Too bad one whale can’t tell us more about trends….
From the NYT: Ship Ahoy!
Is Matt Damon in this one?
Good Night LooHoo!
Right behind you, Loo Hoo…off tomorrow and the next day, but have LOTS to do…good night all!
Pachacutec @ 166
YUP
sooo petrocelli – you saying it wasn’t all that?? lmao
CTuttle @ 161
I know … no beer for 9 months?!!
Helen @ 169
There are many things I could. . . oh, I’d better not say any more. Cassie might be around.
Anyway, I should head off to bed.
Loo Hoo. @ 163
Night Loo Hoo.
Good night Loo Hoo.
Yep. Same for me. ‘Nite all.
Balrog @ 123
Yeah. And when I focus on Post-Bush, I think about Hillary in the White House, and I wonder how eager she would be to dismantle all those Constitutional short-circuits that give her more power.
That’s why I want those Unitary Executive perks dismantled NOW, and the best way to discredit all of them is to impeach the bastards that are implementing them.
If not now, when?
If not us, who?
Bob in HI
Cassie on vacation until late Thurs night. :)
Night LL. Enjoy your time off.
Night RonD and Helen.
Pachacutec @ 166
Yep, he has some great scenes with Ellen Barkin too.
Pach, this was a “new age spirituality” tour de force … you’ll love it.
DrDick @ 179
I second the motion!
Helen @ 138
Bush, when talking about Cheney?
Bob in HI
G’nite Loo Hoo, demi, Pach …
A drive by cross-comment from TNH:
I am reading through these things. First two thoughts are NOBODY among these idiots knows exactly what is going on with the big picture on who is being fired and who is being hired in all the jurisdictions. We know Gonzales didn’t. This is fucking remarkable. Unbelievable. There is only one answer left and it is Rove.
Second thought is how brainlessly and blithely they meandered through this process. Neither in these documents, nor in any testimony to date, nor in any previous documents, has there been any substantive discussion of the mechanics of the affected offices in relation to their case load in general, high profile cases underway, nor interrelation with law enforcement on ongoing investigations. That fact is simply mind boggling. I really cannot put into words how much this floors me. This is incredibly complex stuff, with people’s lives, and the justice systems of entire states and regions in the balance, and they treat it like they are changing out the lunch line monitor in a grade school. Not one tinker’s damn about the law.
TexB @ 177
Hey Betsy … how’s you?
DrDick @ 179
Um you got confused I’m not going to bed
Petrocelli @ 185
Doing well thanks, and you? Log onto MSN and I will update you on stuff.
Helen @ 186
Ahh. Well, I frequently am (confused that is).
bmaz @ 184
One can only hope, this is the veritable ‘Straw’ that breaks the Camel’s back!!! Sara’s GWB43.com is a good start!!! ;-)
Where is ‘Mudcat’ Saunders? I thought he was gonna show up and enter into a dialogue with us ‘Metropolitan Opera Wingers…’?
What’s that you say? He’s conferring with Joke Line!
Get him out here. Time’s a wasting.
Zhiv – If you are still here; i meant the comment over at TNH with all kindness; I was kind of wrapped up in reading the emails. On reflection, I could be wrong, it might be South Dakota, but it seems consistent with being Lam in San Diego because she hung on for a while in order to get the Foggo et. al. indictment out.
OUCH! That friggin hurt. I got stuck in the automatic door when the Lake went down.
Nice to be back at the Lake (rubbing tushkie)
bmaz @ 184
Disgusting, isn’t it? I’m not surprised at what I read from Goodling; she borders on a pathology. Sampson appears to know that he cannot commit some things to writing, hence voicemails used to convey messages on “the plan”. But they are ALL of them uniformly disrespectful of other elected officials that are not Republicans — and the conspiracy runs across all three branches.
Note the email from the Senate Judiciary Majority staffer; she contacts the DOJ even as DiFi is speaking on the floor for immediate contravention. They are all of a piece, from Congress to the White House using the DOJ as a political apparatus.
They need to be completely purged if we are going to save the justice process in this country; we have to have the non-governmental domain emails if we are to track the Bushies down and remove them for qualified, thoroughly vetted career servants.
CTuttle @ 189
bmaz, you and EW have been following this closer than me … are you convinced that AGAG was out of the loop?
Well, I think I will call it a night. Take care of yourselves and enjoy the snark.
Sleep well Dr D
Kagro X is over at TNH making some important points about impeachment, including the following insight:
His diary is a real keeper.
Bob in HI
“Well, this process has just been drug out — Aaah thank fer political gane.”
Thank you, Mr. President.
OT, but couldn’t believe this story, and then juxtapose with Scoots Libby.
A 17 year old boy in Georgia has consensual oral sex with a 15 year old girl. He gets sent to prison for 10 freakin years and required to register as a sex offender, since he had sex with a minor. Huh?!? A large percentage of America’s high schoolers could be locked up by this law.
Now Scoots endangers national security and commits treason and might be in jail for 2 1/2, and this kid has his life ruined for a fairly common teenage activity. I suppose the fact that this kid has much darker skin than Scoots and is from a poor family doesn’t help him much in the blindfolded eyes Lady Justice.
Odd sidenote: The kid’s current lawyer is named “B.J.” Kid you not.
A.Citizen @ 190
Mudflap obviously never read Steve Gilliard. We Fight Back!
Karl’s going to need some Depends to handle this dump!
bonkers @ 199
I have heard about this case. They want him to serve the full 10 yrs with no parole!
Rayne @ 193
Great point! Don’t even need tinfoil anymore for a hat. It’s all so out there now.
Rayne – Simply unbelievable. They don’t even care about Republicans, these ARE Republicans they are shitting on. Oblivious to the effect on the legal process for the local citizens. Brazen; like the Borg assimilating the justice system.
Petrocelli – Hard to tell with Gonzales. My guess is partially out of the loop, but nowhere near what he claims. I don’t care if he went to Harvard law or not, the man is intellectually clueless. I have a friend in AG’s class at Harvard; at the recent reunion, my friend and his friends polled a group of about a hundred classmates at the reunion. Not a one could even remember Gonzales. At all. Zip! Quite an impression he made eh?
bmaz @ 204
Either that or there’s something in the water up in Harvardtown. No one from there seems to be able to remember anything!
bmaz @ 204
That was the point that I believe Harry Reid should have made yesterday from the floor of the Senate as they prepared to vote on the No Confidence cloture. Reid should have pointed out in the strongest terms that the dismissed USA’s were REPUBLICAN appointees with high marks for performance, whose jobs the Democratic members of the SJC were defending.
But there’s both Mitch McConnell and Trent Lott carrying on about partisan politics, without a solid rebuttal. [sigh]
TexB @ 202
That’s one of those headthumping cases I just don’t get. The law was so onerous the Georgia Legislature repealed it, and yet he gets to serve the full term?
What sick, perverted person in the State Atorney’s office thinks this is a good use of (a) their time and (b) the state’s prison budget?
Jeebus.
bonkers @ 205
Kinda like all those Alabama Nt’l Guard troops that couldn’t remember a certain congressman’s son back during the Vietnam war.
Mutant Poodle @ 207
Same ones that gave my sis-in-law 9 years in TX for selling drugs?
TexB @ 202
Sounds like decent kid also (obviously don’t know fer shure from one news report). Honors student and star athlete. What is it with “conservatives” going nutzo about BJs? Jealousy?
Doc.Dump:
From: Samspn, Kyle
1-18-2007
To: Goodling, Monica
Subjedct: Hearing getback
Can you get me the number and names of USAs who have resigned since 1-18-2006? (I then can scan it and see which off them was “asked to resign”.) Then we’ll decide what info to give them after the lunch break. Need this ASAP. Thx!
From: Monica
To: Kyle
Chiara-not public at all
Bogden- quasi-public (we have letter, but it has not been announced to staff or media except by senators.
Ryan-quasi-public (we have letter and he sent an email to his office, but no media release)
Iglesias-Public
Lam-Public
McKay-Public
Charlton-Public
Mutant Poodle @ 207
Yea, they wouldn’t make it retroactive for this kid. Have a nice life junior!
Not only that, the way the law was written, he would’ve gotten 2 years if they had had intercourse instead. Jury was polled after the trial and none were aware of the potential sentances. What was up with his defense counsel?
bonkers @ 212
Wanna bet they were public defenders with 9000 other cases?
Rayne – My friend described above, and a large group of his friends, were the ones who wrote the group letter published in the WaPo telling AG what a cad he was, how he and the administration had desecrated the constitution and that we needed new leadership.
bmaz @ 204
Frankly, I was mystified why one of the Senators yesterday did not hold up a copy of that full page ad that was taken out by the Harvard Law alumni (?). They should have been handing a copy of that to every Repug Senator before the vote.
Petrocelli @ 215
I think they need to learn something about marketing and PR.
ya’ll know PW is upstairs with LateLateNite?
good morning in germany! why is rove allowed to stonewall? are the white house lawyers that good or is only one group acting legally?
Suzanne @ 217
not till just now
:)
TexB @ 213
It pays to be born into wealth! You can even become Preznit without ever accomplishing anything at all in your life…
Englischlehrer @ 218
I’ve been asking that same question but haven’t seen an answer. Wonder how well it would work next time I get questioned by cops…”Ahhh….yea officer. I’ll have to look around a bit and get back to you. Don’t call me, I’ll call you.” Ya think that’ll work well for me?
OK, between the Sampson/Goodling Obstruction and the criminalization of sex, my head hurts. Off to sleep and hope that tomorrow will be, well, more promising.
Line from last night’s Buffy on FX:
Mutant Poodle @ 222
Night MP
I tend to agree w/above comment that Leahy is loading up his gun. Just remember that He was the guy that got told by cheney to “go fuck yourself”. Revenge will be sweeter and sweeter for Sen Leahy.
“Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said in a statement tonight:
These documents, which should have been released by the Department long ago, provide further evidence that White House officials like former Political Director Sara Taylor were deeply involved in the mass firings of well-performing prosecutors. The Department of Justice should not be reduced to a political arm of the White House. We need an end to the White House’s stonewalling of our investigations so we can learn the truth.”
Firepups shld also start paying att’n to the BAE scandal unfolding involving toady blair, BAE (UK’s biggest defense contrtr), the Riggs Bank, and Prince Bandar of Saudi – a bush moneylaunderer. This shld be the next one after Ted stevens. This beats the sopranos by a long shot.
hawaiilaw @ 224
We’re not looking for ‘revenge’. Justice is where it’s at!
Discovering the Truth, so government can be based on reality and finding a way forward from that, not from fantasy, is essential. Revenge is personal and far beneath a government such as ours.
Englischlehrer @ 218
It’s the natural order of things in this sort of warfare.
First all the serfs and hirelings- mercenaries- in leather armor with wooden shields charge and must be slaughtered. Then the armored riders- lesser top officials- attack and must be shot down or beaten and thrown from their horses.
Then the opponent leaders flee into the castle and raise the drawbridge named ‘Executive Privilege’. The situation gets simpler with that- it means that they have no power to attack anymore and are suspected by all of the criminality that has been proposed. Which means the big battering ram- Going to Court- gets taken to the wall of the castle.
The endgame is all about getting into public record the undeniable evidence that convicts of lawbreaking at the highest levels. You expect it can be obtained in the middle of the game, but the game is all about hiding it. (I suspect the various RNC email server contents will be that evidence- that’s where Rove, DoJ, RNC, and the past four national Republican and state level Republican election campaigns intersect.)
At the moment we are still in the phase of having to club a few remaining foot soldiers in the open field (i.e. Goodling, Griffin, Paulose) and fighting down their remaining, mostly wounded, riders (i.e. Sampson, McNulty, Taylor, Schlozman, von Spakowsky). Rove and the RNC emails simply won’t happen before the election fraud schemes and machinery and underlying set of crimes are adequately defined.
“We need an end to the White House’s stonewalling of our investigations so we can learn the truth.” Sorry, but I am sick to death of statements like this from Leahy and Conyers. Our Dem leadership is impotent. They need to STFU and issue the subpoenas. They are going to need to go to the mat with Bushco, and I don’t think they have the guts and basic leadership instincts to do it.
On page 57 (OAG000001795) at the very bottom there is an email from Harriet Miers to William Kelley that reads:
“I am quite surprised that we would engage on whether a personnel action on a Presidential appointment is justified for the reasons I have stated earlier. We can see what the Chief thinks.“
Who is “the Chief”?
I’m a big fan of Leahy, but how much more is it going to take for him to slap Rove and company with the subpoenas?
This is really EPU,but great post Pach! “will the screen go dark?”
ROFL!