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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-756604</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I grew up in New York, lots of people were referred to as “illegal aliens”. Many of them from Ireland and other European countries. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m a liberal Democrat who listens to Lou Dobbs all the time. I don’t always agree with him, but I have never heard him say anything I would consider racist. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have some examples?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I grew up in New York, lots of people were referred to as “illegal aliens”. Many of them from Ireland and other European countries. </p>
<p>I’m a liberal Democrat who listens to Lou Dobbs all the time. I don’t always agree with him, but I have never heard him say anything I would consider racist. </p>
<p>Does anyone have some examples?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Riley</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755812</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Main Entry: 1. alien&lt;br /&gt;
Pronunciation: ‘A-lE-&amp;n, ‘Al-y&amp;n&lt;br /&gt;
Function: adjective&lt;br /&gt;
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius&lt;br /&gt;
1 a : belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : STRANGE &lt;b&gt;b : relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : FOREIGN &lt;/b&gt;c : EXOTIC 1&lt;br /&gt;
2 : differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The above definitions have been taken from Websters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sometimes people forget that words have many meanings. If Def. b is used the term alien has no racial overtones. Being 60, I grew up in a time when the word “alien” was frequently used simply to describe someone from another country not from outer space with all the negative associations with monster movies. I sometimes think that advocates for open borders or amnesty like to make a big thing out of the word “alien” to give such use racial overtones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps, there are millions of illegal immigrants, the phrase that I choose to use simply from my penchant for “political correctness” (sarcasm here), who do not have an allegiance to their home country ; but I doubt it. I’m probably 10th generation Irish, yet, I smile and feel very comfortable being called Irish. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not use the term “undocumented worker” because:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. The term implies that the illegal immigrant somehow has the right to work in this country; but just does not have the documents. The law says that such people do not have the legal right to work in this country.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Many illegal immigrants do have documents, illegal, false documents sometimes connected with identity theft, currently a crime in this country provided that we do not give that crime amnesty also.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Main Entry: 1. alien<br />
Pronunciation: ‘A-lE-&amp;n, ‘Al-y&amp;n<br />
Function: adjective<br />
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius<br />
1 a : belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : STRANGE <b>b : relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : FOREIGN </b>c : EXOTIC 1<br />
2 : differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility</p>
<p>The above definitions have been taken from Websters.</p>
<p>Sometimes people forget that words have many meanings. If Def. b is used the term alien has no racial overtones. Being 60, I grew up in a time when the word “alien” was frequently used simply to describe someone from another country not from outer space with all the negative associations with monster movies. I sometimes think that advocates for open borders or amnesty like to make a big thing out of the word “alien” to give such use racial overtones.</p>
<p>Perhaps, there are millions of illegal immigrants, the phrase that I choose to use simply from my penchant for “political correctness” (sarcasm here), who do not have an allegiance to their home country ; but I doubt it. I’m probably 10th generation Irish, yet, I smile and feel very comfortable being called Irish. </p>
<p>I do not use the term “undocumented worker” because:</p>
<p>1. The term implies that the illegal immigrant somehow has the right to work in this country; but just does not have the documents. The law says that such people do not have the legal right to work in this country.</p>
<p>2. Many illegal immigrants do have documents, illegal, false documents sometimes connected with identity theft, currently a crime in this country provided that we do not give that crime amnesty also.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Murnien</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755387</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Murnien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754928&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 56&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754923&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;redx @ 51&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;per some other folks here I am voting Edwards as well. He is (in a poll) slipping in NH which sucks, but I live here and will do what I can.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Right On!!!  I used to live in Enfield, right on Lake Mascoma!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-754928"><em>CTuttle @ 56</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-754923"><em>redx @ 51</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>per some other folks here I am voting Edwards as well. He is (in a poll) slipping in NH which sucks, but I live here and will do what I can.</p>
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<p>Right On!!!  I used to live in Enfield, right on Lake Mascoma!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bushisnotatexan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755238</link>
		<dc:creator>bushisnotatexan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Come to Texas and then tell me we don’t have an illegal alien/immigrant problem. As long as business can continue to enslave/exploit the illegals we will continue to have the problem. Ok I’ve got the flame suit on so do your worst/best…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to Texas and then tell me we don’t have an illegal alien/immigrant problem. As long as business can continue to enslave/exploit the illegals we will continue to have the problem. Ok I’ve got the flame suit on so do your worst/best…..</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755171</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754934&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 62&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754923&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;redx @ 51&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;per some other folks here I am voting Edwards as well. He is (in a poll) slipping in NH which sucks, …
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I just saw that Hillary’s lead had jumped-up heavily at Edward’s expense in NH.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not as though we can believe every poll, but do you have any idea what it’s attributable to?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-754934"><em>GSD @ 62</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-754923"><em>redx @ 51</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>per some other folks here I am voting Edwards as well. He is (in a poll) slipping in NH which sucks, …
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<p>Yeah, I just saw that Hillary’s lead had jumped-up heavily at Edward’s expense in NH.
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<p>It’s not as though we can believe every poll, but do you have any idea what it’s attributable to?</p>
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		<title>By: Read about it</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755058</link>
		<dc:creator>Read about it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would anyone care to comment on the indirect link that the SPLC has to the Mexican government?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What about the exposes done on them by various reporters, such as the one that appeared in Harpers?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone care to comment on the indirect link that the SPLC has to the Mexican government?</p>
<p>What about the exposes done on them by various reporters, such as the one that appeared in Harpers?</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyokie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755053</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokyokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, all three of John Wayne’s wives were Hispanic. The first was Panamanian, the second Mexican and his widow, Pilar, is Peruvian. FWIW.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, all three of John Wayne’s wives were Hispanic. The first was Panamanian, the second Mexican and his widow, Pilar, is Peruvian. FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755043</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754980&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary McCurnin @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-754967&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 92&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey, are the left-wing netroots full of Ivory tower liberal elites sipping latte’s and going to the Metropolitan Opera or a bunch of 20 year olds smoking dope in their parents basement and blogging in their patchouli stanking pajammies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Inquiring minds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No. They are little old ladies sittin at home gettin more pissed by the minute waitin for the rest of America to frickin wake up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are they knitting names??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-754980"><em>Mary McCurnin @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-754967"><em>GSD @ 92</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hey, are the left-wing netroots full of Ivory tower liberal elites sipping latte’s and going to the Metropolitan Opera or a bunch of 20 year olds smoking dope in their parents basement and blogging in their patchouli stanking pajammies?</p>
<p>Inquiring minds.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>No. They are little old ladies sittin at home gettin more pissed by the minute waitin for the rest of America to frickin wake up.</p>
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<p>Are they knitting names??</p>
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		<title>By: LindaR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/11/late-nite-fdl-say-whaaa/#comment-755026</link>
		<dc:creator>LindaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-755006&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AnnieW @ 130&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LindaR, I get a sense here people haven’t watched Dobbs either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t watch, because of the one note theme he embraces, but do see that he does make valid points that many here would agree with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Minimum wage must be increased.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Corpratists rule America and need to be stopped.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Immigration reform isn’t to help the undocumented workers, it’s to give big business a free pass.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, AnnieW, that’s it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-755006"><em>AnnieW @ 130</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LindaR, I get a sense here people haven’t watched Dobbs either.</p>
<p>I can’t watch, because of the one note theme he embraces, but do see that he does make valid points that many here would agree with.</p>
<p>1. Minimum wage must be increased.</p>
<p>2. Corpratists rule America and need to be stopped.</p>
<p>3. Immigration reform isn’t to help the undocumented workers, it’s to give big business a free pass.</p>
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<p>Yes, AnnieW, that’s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Twain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-755004&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 128&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why don’t people like the word ALIEN?  cause it reminds them of space movies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The word alien always makes me think of “other”&lt;br /&gt;
or not like “us”. They are like us- they are us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-755004"><em>SnarKassandra @ 128</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Why don’t people like the word ALIEN?  cause it reminds them of space movies?</p>
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<p>The word alien always makes me think of “other”<br />
or not like “us”. They are like us- they are us.</p>
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