Is one of the “bases” going to be the green zone?

Because I was under the impression that if CentCom goes into hunkerdown mode out in the boonies, the green zone will become the world’s bestest mortar-training range.

And when the brits leave (and they ARE leaving, as we speak) if junior wants to keep that Kuwait to Baghdad highway open and functioning, as it goes past Basra, etc., down south, it’s going to take bodies.

And, there’s always that little problem wiht the repubs trying to run for office with 4 even semi-permanent “Fort Apaches’” under pretty consistent harassment. I don’t think that at this point, the voters are into decades of attempted occupation. Very soon, they may not even be into months of it.

The new bases are going to be in Kuwait and the Kurdish north…maybe.

If the Iraqi government objects…………….Oh yea, what Iraqi government? You think there is going to be a real Iraqi government in the next decade or so? . Oh my sweet innocent child.

Hillary and Obama are already on board to keep the bases, not in so many words of course. No president will ever abandon these bases. They are the one thing we can point to as a victory, besides ousting and killing Saddam. Abondoning these bases will not be allowed by the military, ever. They are jus toooooooooooooooo sweet.

I personally don’t prefer a revolution as it’s bloody and destructive in every way. But, still, to get together politically and to fight the Rich (and their political mouthpieces like Dubya) takes a lot of effort and time.

Currently they’re holding our military as hostages, threatening to let them be slaughtered if we the people don’t let them continue to have power. Of course, we’ve all seen the movies where this happens and somebody saves the day to get the bad guy(s). But, that doesn’t mean the hostages get away safely and it doesn’t mean a lot of violence isn’t done.

How to do it all cleanly, without bloodshed? Talk a lot, vote, stuff like that. Don’t give up and remember it’s them causing the violence, not us. We’re not the bad guys and we’re not initiating violence or the wasting of wealth.

Perhaps after the war Dems oughta make the Rich pay for the war in taxes and take away the unbelievable profits corporations have made from the war. If they wanna throw a party they should pay for it.

Thank you James @ 165!

‘I get so tired of saying this over and over, but it really does all go back to Dallas, 1963 and all it takes to see the hands behind the plot is simply listing those entities both human and corporate that have gained since that terrible day.’

That, too, is/has been my theory.

So,…name names (individual and/or corporate)!

hello everyone

Scarecrow, thank you for pulling this all together, it’s stunning, it’s just stunning.

They’ve gotta burn all that military ‘junk’, so they can justify spending gobs more money to make somebody rich and to use that money-resource, so Dems can’t use it for actually benefitting Americans — who would just go out and vote for Dems again.

In short, they don’t want good government because only Dems know how to do that and because it’s not profitable for the Repubs.

BTW, I like the idea that blowing the bridge(s) is part of a plan for our evacuation (and a Black Hawk Down attack from Iraqis/AlQaedis) rather than setting up a Dien Bien Phu kind of disaster. At least I would rather hope it’s the former, however awful it is to think our leaders would create a disaster for our own troops.

Does anyone seriously believe our new Democratic Congressional leaders weren’t in on this?
It’s a matter of public record that Steny Hoyer has personally fought to keep that Iraqi oil law in as a benchmark. And wherever there’s oil, you’ll find American troops.

But Steny and his pathetic gang of Emanuelles used an earlier and dirtier bait and switch tactic to remove the Iran provision from a March spending bill, “…in order to insure an easier passage for the troop withdrawal provisions.”

So now we have no Iran provision.
And no troop withdrawal.

Just oil.

And I as a voter hold the Democratic Congress, not Bush, personally responsible for those irresponsible decisions.

RockPaperScizzors @ 170

Economist commentator Sonja Ebron wrote, “An OPEC switch from the dollar to the euro would bring a quick and devastating dollar and Wall Street crash that would make 1929 look like a $50 c*sino bet.” This prediction was understood by the Clinton administration, but the Bush administration took action to boost the petrodollar.

The Deciderer majored in Partying not Geo/Political Ecomomics, in case you hadn’t noticed. /s

…with a master’s degree in Crazy-Making. As much as I appreciate the analysis of the internation CF of the Chimperor, it still boils down to just crazy-making literally on a global scale. He can’t let anyone else, including Petraeus, “know” anything. He sets everyone up to fail. That’s our Bush!

Another brave and great post by Scarecrow!! thanks.

RockPaperScizzors @ 170

Economist commentator Sonja Ebron wrote, “An OPEC switch from the dollar to the euro would bring a quick and devastating dollar and Wall Street crash that would make 1929 look like a $50 c*sino bet.” This prediction was understood by the Clinton administration, but the Bush administration took action to boost the petrodollar.

The Deciderer majored in Partying not Geo/Political Ecomomics, in case you hadn’t noticed. /s

Yes, you are correct but we are ALL partying with him as long as the US dollar remains the de facto world currency. I’m NOT defending GWB, I’m just saying the we all need to face a reality check in that the United States gets to party on with low interest rates, worl consumer of cheap goods, etc…as long as the dollar remains as the petro dollar.

Economist commentator Sonja Ebron wrote, “An OPEC switch from the dollar to the euro would bring a quick and devastating dollar and Wall Street crash that would make 1929 look like a $50 c*sino bet.” This prediction was understood by the Clinton administration, but the Bush administration took action to boost the petrodollar.

The Deciderer majored in Partying not Geo/Political Ecomomics, in case you hadn’t noticed. /s