Comments on: Come Saturday Morning: Five Myths About Immigrants And Health Care http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:35:36 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: deandra http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-751637 deandra Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:54:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-751637 <p><a href="#comment-750339"><em>katymine @ 26</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>The number ONE employer of undocumented workers is the everyday homeowner. </p> <p>1. Did you check your lawn guy’s documentation? (do you care because he is so cheap?)<br /> 2. How about your house cleaning service?<br /> 3. How about the nanny or the elder care attendant?<br /> 4. Did you hire the guy who drives around in a pickup to trim palm trees for cash?<br /> 5. The people who hang the adds on your door? </p> <p>The reason that the healthcare system is broken is because of the 50 million uninsured and the other 50 million under-insured. The Emergency room becomes their PCP office.</p></blockquote> <p>Agree. We <b><em>need</em></b> the illegals. They are in fact our new slave class. The ‘brownies’ mowing our lawns are reminiscent of the days of the ‘darkies’ in the field. We are determined as a nation to return to those beautiful days before the war - the Civil War, that is. Now if we could just get them to sing in unison!</p> katymine @ 26

The number ONE employer of undocumented workers is the everyday homeowner.

1. Did you check your lawn guy’s documentation? (do you care because he is so cheap?)
2. How about your house cleaning service?
3. How about the nanny or the elder care attendant?
4. Did you hire the guy who drives around in a pickup to trim palm trees for cash?
5. The people who hang the adds on your door?

The reason that the healthcare system is broken is because of the 50 million uninsured and the other 50 million under-insured. The Emergency room becomes their PCP office.

Agree. We need the illegals. They are in fact our new slave class. The ‘brownies’ mowing our lawns are reminiscent of the days of the ‘darkies’ in the field. We are determined as a nation to return to those beautiful days before the war – the Civil War, that is. Now if we could just get them to sing in unison!

]]> By: johnnyrocket http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-751104 johnnyrocket Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:07:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-751104 <p>Yeah, all these points are red herrings. My issue with immigration, is simple: These people are cutting in line, cheating the system, ignoring the laws, and its unfair to all other immigrants.</p> <p>Explain how it isn’t unfair?</p> Yeah, all these points are red herrings. My issue with immigration, is simple: These people are cutting in line, cheating the system, ignoring the laws, and its unfair to all other immigrants.

Explain how it isn’t unfair?

]]> By: Blue Dido http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750580 Blue Dido Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:53:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750580 <p>And here’s another element to undocumented immigrant workers and health care: North Carolina farmworkers having babies with severe birth defects (no arms or legs; parts of the brain or face missing) because of pesticides used by Ag-Mart (for growing “Santa Sweet” cherry tomatoes). I’m sure this is happening in other states, too. I’m now buying only organic produce.</p> <p><a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/front/v-print/story/402173.html">http://www.newsobserver.com/fr.....02173.html</a></p> <p>The story doesn’t specify undocumented workers, but they are the backbone of this state’s agricultural industry, as today’s front-page article makes clear—much of the produce and tobacco (also Christmas trees) will go to waste because it’s getting harder to find the undocumented workers that agriculture depends upon:</p> <p><a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/597613.html">http://www.newsobserver.com/fr.....97613.html</a></p> <p>When is this country going to wake up and start treating these workers like actual human beings? Oh, oops—stupid question: this country doesn’t consider any kind of workers to be human beings.</p> And here’s another element to undocumented immigrant workers and health care: North Carolina farmworkers having babies with severe birth defects (no arms or legs; parts of the brain or face missing) because of pesticides used by Ag-Mart (for growing “Santa Sweet” cherry tomatoes). I’m sure this is happening in other states, too. I’m now buying only organic produce.

http://www.newsobserver.com/fr…..02173.html

The story doesn’t specify undocumented workers, but they are the backbone of this state’s agricultural industry, as today’s front-page article makes clear—much of the produce and tobacco (also Christmas trees) will go to waste because it’s getting harder to find the undocumented workers that agriculture depends upon:

http://www.newsobserver.com/fr…..97613.html

When is this country going to wake up and start treating these workers like actual human beings? Oh, oops—stupid question: this country doesn’t consider any kind of workers to be human beings.

]]> By: John Casper http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750555 John Casper Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:35:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750555 <p>PW, sorry I’m late.<br /> Thank you so much for stepping up for the General wrt the white supremacist obit for Gilliard.</p> PW, sorry I’m late.
Thank you so much for stepping up for the General wrt the white supremacist obit for Gilliard.

]]> By: GSD http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750509 GSD Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:09:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750509 <p># 73.</p> <p>“Alien” not “Amien”. Or even Ambien.</p> <p>-GSD</p> # 73.

“Alien” not “Amien”. Or even Ambien.

-GSD

]]> By: tejanarusa http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750507 tejanarusa Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:09:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750507 <p>Related to this topic AND to the USAttys issues:</p> <p>headline of San Antonio Express-News today:<br /> “VOTE FRAUD PROBED IN BEXAR [COUNTY]”</p> <p>Guess who’s accused of voting illegally? “illegal immigrants.” How many: 41. The horror!</p> <p><a href="http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA060907.01A.Vote_Fraud.34fe57a.html">http://www.mysanantonio.com/ne.....fe57a.html</a></p> Related to this topic AND to the USAttys issues:

headline of San Antonio Express-News today:
“VOTE FRAUD PROBED IN BEXAR [COUNTY]”

Guess who’s accused of voting illegally? “illegal immigrants.” How many: 41. The horror!

http://www.mysanantonio.com/ne…..fe57a.html

]]> By: GSD http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750500 GSD Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:03:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750500 <p><a href="#comment-750478"><em>hackworth @ 75</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-750463"><em>GSD @ 73</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Breaking News:</p> <p>Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.</p> <p><a href="http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm">Shocking proof!</a></p> <p>-GSD</p></blockquote> <p>Its got its suction tube fully extended. </p> <p>UNbeknownst to most AMericans, China (like the US) is brokering lop sided deals all over the world. Barbados? </p> <p>In Costa Rica, Tawian built the Friends Bridge in exchange for all the shark fins they can poach. The shark population is dwindling rapidly.</p></blockquote> <p>You do know that Costa Rica just ditched Taiwan for China.</p> <p>Talk about a bridge to sell.</p> <p>-GSD</p> hackworth @ 75

GSD @ 73

Breaking News:

Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.

Shocking proof!

-GSD

Its got its suction tube fully extended.

UNbeknownst to most AMericans, China (like the US) is brokering lop sided deals all over the world. Barbados?

In Costa Rica, Tawian built the Friends Bridge in exchange for all the shark fins they can poach. The shark population is dwindling rapidly.

You do know that Costa Rica just ditched Taiwan for China.

Talk about a bridge to sell.

-GSD

]]> By: hackworth http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750478 hackworth Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:47:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750478 <p><a href="#comment-750463"><em>GSD @ 73</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Breaking News:</p> <p>Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.</p> <p><a href="http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm">Shocking proof!</a></p> <p>-GSD</p></blockquote> <p>Its got its suction tube fully extended. </p> <p>UNbeknownst to most AMericans, China (like the US) is brokering lop sided deals all over the world. Barbados? </p> <p>In Costa Rica, Tawian built the Friends Bridge in exchange for all the shark fins they can poach. The shark population is dwindling rapidly.</p> GSD @ 73

Breaking News:

Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.

Shocking proof!

-GSD

Its got its suction tube fully extended.

UNbeknownst to most AMericans, China (like the US) is brokering lop sided deals all over the world. Barbados?

In Costa Rica, Tawian built the Friends Bridge in exchange for all the shark fins they can poach. The shark population is dwindling rapidly.

]]> By: David McGiffert http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750477 David McGiffert Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:47:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750477 <p>I have to disagree with you on this post.<br /> I live in Los Angeles where the health care system<br /> has been totally overrun with the illegal alien influx.<br /> This is just a fact.<br /> It may be that the problem is not as overwhelming where<br /> you live, but out here it is incredible.<br /> It does no good to divide this issue into Republican and<br /> Democrat, liberal or conservative.<br /> If we don’t fix this problem by closing the borders and<br /> fining employers who - as a matter of course - hire people with no documentation, or forged documents,<br /> our children will forever pay the price, and it is large.<br /> This (amnesty) immigration bill has HUGE costs to the American public associated with it, and what in heck<br /> will a 24 hour background check turn up? How will this<br /> government be able to process all these people going over and back across the border, they can’t even process our own citizens who they mandated had to have passports with them when they traveled to the Carribean or Canada or Mexico.<br /> Please look further into this issue than the ‘unfairness’ of taking a stand against illegial aliens coming across unguarded borders to work for substandard wages and avail themselves of publicly funded medical services to the detriment of so many underpriviledged or just plain poor citizens who desperately need our help too.<br /> Respectfully,</p> <p>David</p> I have to disagree with you on this post.
I live in Los Angeles where the health care system
has been totally overrun with the illegal alien influx.
This is just a fact.
It may be that the problem is not as overwhelming where
you live, but out here it is incredible.
It does no good to divide this issue into Republican and
Democrat, liberal or conservative.
If we don’t fix this problem by closing the borders and
fining employers who – as a matter of course – hire people with no documentation, or forged documents,
our children will forever pay the price, and it is large.
This (amnesty) immigration bill has HUGE costs to the American public associated with it, and what in heck
will a 24 hour background check turn up? How will this
government be able to process all these people going over and back across the border, they can’t even process our own citizens who they mandated had to have passports with them when they traveled to the Carribean or Canada or Mexico.
Please look further into this issue than the ‘unfairness’ of taking a stand against illegial aliens coming across unguarded borders to work for substandard wages and avail themselves of publicly funded medical services to the detriment of so many underpriviledged or just plain poor citizens who desperately need our help too.
Respectfully,

David

]]> By: GSD http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750463 GSD Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:39:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/09/come-saturday-morning-five-myths-about-immigrants-and-health-care/#comment-750463 <p>Breaking News:</p> <p>Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.</p> <p><a href="http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm">Shocking proof!</a></p> <p>-GSD</p> Breaking News:

Amien spaceships sighted hovering over G-8 leaders.

Shocking proof!

-GSD

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