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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-749147</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Al Gore would have made (and would make) a great American president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even though, in 2000, he had an albatross around his nexk by the name of Joe Lie-berman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I almost didn’t vote for the Gore/Lie-berman Democratic ticket in 2000 for the simple reason that Lie-berman was chosen (by the DLC?) to be Al Gore’s running mate, but I knew that Bush and Cheney in the White House would be worse than anything We The People could imagine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, in 2000, I voted for Al Gore as President of the United States, but held my nose in regards to Lie-berman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if Al Gore were to choose to save our republic and run for the presidency again in 2008, I definitely would vote for him again, no matter who was his running mate, although this time around I would think that Democrats would be able to field someone a whole lot better (and saner) than Lie-berman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore would have made (and would make) a great American president.</p>
<p>Even though, in 2000, he had an albatross around his nexk by the name of Joe Lie-berman.</p>
<p>I almost didn’t vote for the Gore/Lie-berman Democratic ticket in 2000 for the simple reason that Lie-berman was chosen (by the DLC?) to be Al Gore’s running mate, but I knew that Bush and Cheney in the White House would be worse than anything We The People could imagine.</p>
<p>So, in 2000, I voted for Al Gore as President of the United States, but held my nose in regards to Lie-berman.</p>
<p>And if Al Gore were to choose to save our republic and run for the presidency again in 2008, I definitely would vote for him again, no matter who was his running mate, although this time around I would think that Democrats would be able to field someone a whole lot better (and saner) than Lie-berman.</p>
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		<title>By: big brother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748986</link>
		<dc:creator>big brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“At the end of the day, it’s of keen interest to me to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frog-marched out of White House in handcuffs” .. Ambassador Joe Wilson.. Add Cheney and Bush to the list for war crimes and high treason for openers. In the Spirit of Captain Bligh’s removal by Fletcher Christian the malifisant is removed of command! Spinal transplants available here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“At the end of the day, it’s of keen interest to me to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frog-marched out of White House in handcuffs” .. Ambassador Joe Wilson.. Add Cheney and Bush to the list for war crimes and high treason for openers. In the Spirit of Captain Bligh’s removal by Fletcher Christian the malifisant is removed of command! Spinal transplants available here.</p>
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		<title>By: IntelVet</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748465</link>
		<dc:creator>IntelVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748170&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TJ @ 77&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ve felt that Gore’s loss in 2000 was God, the Universe, or Karma sparing us and him having 9/11 happen on his watch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republicans would have blamed it all on the Democrats.  We might have been in for an even longer reign of Republican terror when Gore was voted out in 2004.  Gore would have taken personal responsiblity for this, and may have destroyed him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So as bad as this 7 years has been, I think it’s not as bad as the wingnuts would have made it if Gore was running the country.  At least now I have hope.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Likely, 9-11 wouldn’t have happened.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think Gore would have allowed Cheney’s energy group to threaten the Afghan Taliban with extinction (….blanket your country with bombs or dollars) rhetoric, which I believe, triggered the Taliban to go to a proven, in-country war leader to provide the “cover” for bin Laden to launch his troops.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also think Gore has an eye for BS’ers and the cover-up of the run-up to 9-11(incompetant or otherwise) would have been minimized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, it is all speculation now that many of the Taliban leaders have been killed and we cannot prove anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, the circumstances seem pretty well connected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush wants dots.  I’ll show him, dots.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-748170"><em>TJ @ 77</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve felt that Gore’s loss in 2000 was God, the Universe, or Karma sparing us and him having 9/11 happen on his watch.</p>
<p>Republicans would have blamed it all on the Democrats.  We might have been in for an even longer reign of Republican terror when Gore was voted out in 2004.  Gore would have taken personal responsiblity for this, and may have destroyed him.</p>
<p>So as bad as this 7 years has been, I think it’s not as bad as the wingnuts would have made it if Gore was running the country.  At least now I have hope.</p>
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<p>Likely, 9-11 wouldn’t have happened.</p>
<p>I don’t think Gore would have allowed Cheney’s energy group to threaten the Afghan Taliban with extinction (….blanket your country with bombs or dollars) rhetoric, which I believe, triggered the Taliban to go to a proven, in-country war leader to provide the “cover” for bin Laden to launch his troops.</p>
<p>I also think Gore has an eye for BS’ers and the cover-up of the run-up to 9-11(incompetant or otherwise) would have been minimized.</p>
<p>Yeah, it is all speculation now that many of the Taliban leaders have been killed and we cannot prove anything.</p>
<p>Still, the circumstances seem pretty well connected.</p>
<p>Bush wants dots.  I’ll show him, dots.</p>
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		<title>By: vieravisionary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748445</link>
		<dc:creator>vieravisionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748377&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dmac @ 257&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Is anybody there?&lt;br /&gt;
  Does anybody care?&lt;br /&gt;
  Does anybody see what I see?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;what’s the name of the song, and who did it?&lt;br /&gt;
thanks…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;((((esten))))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The song is titled “Is Anybody There?” and it is from the musical “&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_(musical)&quot;&gt;1776 - Musical&lt;/a&gt;” and the character John Adams (played by William Daniels in the movie/and on Broadway) sings the song.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-748377"><em>dmac @ 257</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“Is anybody there?<br />
  Does anybody care?<br />
  Does anybody see what I see?”</p>
<p>what’s the name of the song, and who did it?<br />
thanks…….</p>
<p>((((esten))))</p>
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<p>The song is titled “Is Anybody There?” and it is from the musical “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_(musical)">1776 &#8211; Musical</a>” and the character John Adams (played by William Daniels in the movie/and on Broadway) sings the song.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748437</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748315&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 213&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748312&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wordsmith @ 211&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I love CNSY or CSNY, doink…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3dcQWEDOiI&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;B side of ‘Ohio’, BTW.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-748315"><em>raven @ 213</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-748312"><em>Wordsmith @ 211</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I love CNSY or CSNY, doink…</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3dcQWEDOiI&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v&#8230;..mp;search=</a></p>
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<p>B side of ‘Ohio’, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor Atrebates</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748424</link>
		<dc:creator>Praedor Atrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What say I?  I say big deal.  Investigate, investigate, investigate and what do we get?  Nothing.  They merely, “Tsk tsk”, while shaking their heads slowly and with consciously posed gravity, then they shrug and say, “Hmpf.  What are you gonna do?”  And that is the extent of it.  NOTHING happens.  No amount of criminality is enough to induce real action.  All we get is &lt;i&gt;suggestions&lt;/i&gt; of a vote of ‘no confidence’ in Gonzales.  No confidence?!  Hell’s bells, this clown is imminently impeachable!  There are too many general legal and constitutional violations falling out all over the place to keep track of and yet nothing ever comes of it.  Just another headshake and another grave “tsk tsk”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What say I?  I say big deal.  Investigate, investigate, investigate and what do we get?  Nothing.  They merely, “Tsk tsk”, while shaking their heads slowly and with consciously posed gravity, then they shrug and say, “Hmpf.  What are you gonna do?”  And that is the extent of it.  NOTHING happens.  No amount of criminality is enough to induce real action.  All we get is <i>suggestions</i> of a vote of ‘no confidence’ in Gonzales.  No confidence?!  Hell’s bells, this clown is imminently impeachable!  There are too many general legal and constitutional violations falling out all over the place to keep track of and yet nothing ever comes of it.  Just another headshake and another grave “tsk tsk”.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McCurnin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748423</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary McCurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Patriot Act showed up far too quickly not to have been considered and written before 911. The intelligence community was working hard to get the info to the B admin. Problem was the B admin was the aggressor. The fascist apparatus was well oiled and has taken full advantage of our country’s fear and ignorance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot Act showed up far too quickly not to have been considered and written before 911. The intelligence community was working hard to get the info to the B admin. Problem was the B admin was the aggressor. The fascist apparatus was well oiled and has taken full advantage of our country’s fear and ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: blue e</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748407</link>
		<dc:creator>blue e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brisingamen @ 240  - thank you&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 241 - thank you, I’m sitting here with a printed out organizational DOJ chart trying to keep up with this story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;punaise @ 246 - god bless, I love your mind and heart&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brisingamen @ 240  &#8211; thank you</p>
<p>Christy Hardin Smith @ 241 &#8211; thank you, I’m sitting here with a printed out organizational DOJ chart trying to keep up with this story.</p>
<p>punaise @ 246 &#8211; god bless, I love your mind and heart</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748393</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748367&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TJ @ 254&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I’m a huge FDL supporter and I didn’t mean to anger anyone.  My experience with the intelligence community tells me that these folks work incredibly hard.  They tried very hard to get the information to stop it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WE know that.  One need only read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project&quot;&gt;9/11 Timeline&lt;/a&gt; and see all the instances where the intelligence was there, this administration had been notified by the intelligence community both inside and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&amp;warning_signs:_specific_cases=foreignIntelligence&quot;&gt;outside this country&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yet they did absolutely nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a very hard time believing that any other administration would not have heeded the warnings from intel.  Heck, there were areas that had been responding independently of the administration, like the FAA and its four warnings.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The bigger problem I see is that much of the intelligence was thwarted (Able Danger) when not ignored (Phoenix Memo), by elements within the government that were encouraged by Republican majority and a Republican administration.  These elements must be remediated as soon as the next administration takes office, or 9/11 will happen again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-748367"><em>TJ @ 254</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
I’m a huge FDL supporter and I didn’t mean to anger anyone.  My experience with the intelligence community tells me that these folks work incredibly hard.  They tried very hard to get the information to stop it.</p>
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<p>WE know that.  One need only read the <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project">9/11 Timeline</a> and see all the instances where the intelligence was there, this administration had been notified by the intelligence community both inside and <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&amp;warning_signs:_specific_cases=foreignIntelligence">outside this country</a>.</p>
<p>And yet they did absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>I have a very hard time believing that any other administration would not have heeded the warnings from intel.  Heck, there were areas that had been responding independently of the administration, like the FAA and its four warnings.  </p>
<p>The bigger problem I see is that much of the intelligence was thwarted (Able Danger) when not ignored (Phoenix Memo), by elements within the government that were encouraged by Republican majority and a Republican administration.  These elements must be remediated as soon as the next administration takes office, or 9/11 will happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/08/sunshine-for-patriots/#comment-748392</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-748300&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;twolf1 @ 201&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT - &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/House_Progressive_leaders_sign_on_to_0608.html&quot;&gt;House Progressive leaders sign on to Cheney impeachment motion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but they’re not trying to whip the caucus on this. I wish they would.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-748300"><em>twolf1 @ 201</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT &#8211; <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/House_Progressive_leaders_sign_on_to_0608.html">House Progressive leaders sign on to Cheney impeachment motion</a></p>
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<p>Yeah, but they’re not trying to whip the caucus on this. I wish they would.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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