It’s been a long, news-filled week, and I thought everyone could use a little break this morning. The above YouTube is a tribute fan video of Miyazaki’s My Neighbor Totoro, set to “I Hope You Dance.” I would never have put the two together, but it works somehow and gave me a smile this morning. I love this film — it is so adorable, and The Peanut and I often watch it cuddled up in a chair, laughing all the way through. Hope this gives you a giggle this morning as well.
And now, something a bit more substantive. Although only a bit:
Digby points to a piece that KagroX did on DKos regarding the Joe Klein anti-liberal-blogger screed. But it was the follow-up bit from David Frum quoting Eli Lake that really caught my eye — that weird need that conservatives have to dismiss their critics as either kids in pajamas or failed professionals is truly idiotic — especially given their penchant for being propped up by copious amounts of someone else’s money for nothing (the aptly titled wingnut welfare largesse…if the payola fits, eh?).
For the record, I had a very successful legal career, from which I walked away to write (I was working on a novel.) and to try and have a child. (Our doc thought that 16 hour days and murder and other felony trials might, perhaps, be causing issues due to stress. Given that I got pregnant within a month of taking time off, I’d say he was probably right.) I’d spent a number of years in private practice with my own firm before switching hats to become an assistant prosecutor.
I’ve waded through nasty autopsy photos, disgusting child sexual abuse cases, even worse child pornography prosecutions (you do NOT want to know), domestic abuse, stabbings, drug dealers at junior high schools…you name some hideous thing one human being can do to another, and I’ve probably had to handle it at some point. I’ve survived death and violence threats, re-upped my NRA certification to maintain a conceal carry permit, and at one point or another had to back an angry family member into the corner to get them to leave me alone so I could finish grocery shopping (no one is ever happy when grandpa goes off to prison for his 8th DUI conviction, I suppose). I say this not for some sort of sympathy and admiration, but because that whole “ivory tower, doesn’t live in the real world” bullshit stereotype that people like Frum front out really pisses me off. Especially given that the man worked in the oh so real world of Presidential speech writing, where one is confronted with the occasional cup of oldish coffee in the cafeteria and the occasional misattribution mishap. You sit down with a 14-year-old, pregnant with her own father’s child due to an incestual rape or an elderly woman whose family has abandoned her to die in a home with no water or heat, and gangrene in her feet…or any of the other very real world issues with which I have dealt in my lifetime, and then preach to me about who blogs and why.
So, anyway, I had a child, and was home with her, watching the news, reading online, and getting more and more irritated…by what I was not seeing. I started blogging primarily out of disgust with coverage of the Traitorgate investigation — reporters were missing the legal information that was right in front of them, no one seemed to understand grand jury procedure, and the big pieces like the SF-312 agreement requirements for clearance and the larger picture of the betrayal of Valerie Plame Wilson causing problems not just for her and her family, but for every other agent and asset with whom she had worked just got glossed over, time and time again. I got sick of reporters being held back by timid editors, and really tired of people like Victoria Toensing and Barbara Comstock and Gold Bars Luskin filling in the gaps with misinformation and outright fabricated spin. Frankly, someone had to start calling them on it, and it might as well be me since I knew the procedure and legal information. And I had a little time on my hands between time at the park and feedings — and it was good to put my mind to work on helping others understand legal issues.
FWIW, having met a number of readers here at FDL, many of them are successful professionals in their own right — some professors and teachers (And, since when is it bad, Mr. Frum, to be a literate, educated person who takes the education of others on as their life’s work? What is the matter with you?!?), quite a few lawyers, a few members of the clergy, some stay-at-home mommas and dads, business owners, veterans, retired folks worried about the nation that will be left for their grandkids. In short, a whole lot of regular Americans who are all fed up with things the way they are.
And that includes being fed up with our current political system and the media that covers it.
I decided that I couldn’t just sit back and wait for the media or our politicians to fix themselves — that was up to you and me. No more waiting for destiny to help us out in the long run, but instead more carpe diem with a little elbow grease thrown in on a daily basis. What I want — what a lot of you want — is more transparency:
During the Republican-controlled Executive and Congressional reign of the last six years, we had a perfect storm of failures of oversight. The Bush Administration has failed to police itself in terms of integrity and ethics, preferring instead to go on an orgy of cronyism and power consolidation. The Republican-led Congress all too happy to enable the Bush Administration in this, in order to maintain its hold on the perks purse and the PR appearance of power. The judiciary tied itself in Constitutional knots over terrorism prosecutions and ideological tangents over precedential, Constitutional duties. And, in the meantime, the vaunted Fourth Estate concentrated more on perfecting its curtsy to the Unilateral Executive, save for a few members who continued the important wariness and mistrust of those in power, but consequently spent far too much of their time relegated to page A-17 on a Friday by a timid editorial class whose personal interests were thought to be served by not ticking off those in power.This is not new — the need to please those in power warring against the public’s interest in questioning those self-same political power brokers has always been fought. But the unprecedented scope of these failures across such a broad spectrum from the top to the bottom of political leadership in this nation of ours has been as painful as it has been infuriating.
It has taken the jolt of multiple, successive failures to wake up a large portion of the American electorate, the political establishment and the media at large. And, even so, we have so much further to go — and it is going to take all of us to keep things moving in a more pro-active direction.
We must continue to ask questions, demand accountability, and search for answers. From ourselves, our elected officials, and anyone in the public sphere.
It is the questions that are important — for it is through the questions that we begin to see that more are needed — and to understand that whatever initial answers are given, they are the opaque and superficial first blush. The opacity of the Bush Administration has been especially honed — not just with the American press, but with the public at large — but it is to the public that the Administration is, ultimately, answerable at every level. We forget that at our peril, and the press forgets this at a costly mortgage to all of our futures for generations to come.
The price of the failures of the last six years is steep. We have lost something that will be years in the regaining, if ever, and that is our national integrity. I keep going back to the basics that Dan Froomkin laid out in his Neiman piece back in February — that any of it had to be written down astonishes me, but clearly there is a desperate need for some plain-spoken common sense. Skepticism ought not be a lost art, especially in Washington, D.C., given the penchant for spin that so many within the Beltway possess. Someone’s interpretation of events is variable, depending on the perspective, but the facts themselves ought not be malleable. And we would do well to remind ourselves of that frequently.
What I would like is more reporting which lays out clearly when someone is giving personal opinion, and what is based on hard, cold fact; what is interpretive, and what is analytical; what interest or rationale is propelling the analysis, and what is behind a particular push — in short, the surrounding circumstances and the history alongside the spin, including some background on the person doing the spinning. This is what we try to do here every day, and what people do all across the blogs on both sides of the aisle — people do not get information in a vaccuum, they are sophisticated enough to know that there is context behind every parsed, focus-group-tested phrasing. What we do not need from the press is more sales pitch — instead, we would, as Sanger suggests, appreciate a bit more deconstruction. And some plain, old honesty and skepticism from the people we depend on to peer into the halls of power and report not just what they are told to say, but also what those who are doing the telling would prefer that we not know — the devil, as they say, is in the details.
Transparency in government is necessary. It is equally appreciated in reporting. It puts us all on an equal footing, trying to parse out the reality from the malfeasance which can only, in the long run, serve as a deterrent to those who would seek to use the public sphere as their own, personal ideological playground.
Is that too much to ask? I don’t think so. Would that the Joe Kleins of the world were asking it not just from the liberal blogosphere but also from themselves and those around them inside the Beltway. Then we might begin to see a glimmer of progress…and a lot less self-serving wankery. My child deserves better, as do all of us.
PS — Happy birthday, dakine!
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Good Morning Christy and
FDL!
Uno?
Ah, missed it by THAT much…
It looks like the zed has gone the way of democracy. . . .
Hell yeah Christy, don’t mess with the Reddhedd!
mornin’ Redd. ygm (PACER stuff but you probably have Libby’s motion already).
What irritated me about the Frum piece was this:
There’s nothing tricky about why we pick on Klein. We pick on Klein because he enables republican talking points. He and his pal Broder use phrases like “precipitous withdrawal” and buys into the ridiculous idea that the president gets to dictate to the congress the conditions for continuing the occupation–otherwise the troops aren’t being “supported.”
This isn’t hard to understand.
Perhaps this is projection. Perhaps the wingnut obsession with message control and adherence to the same scripts leads them to try to identify who is controlling the message in the left blogosphere. But to pick out the least controlling voice of all, Markos, just illustrates how silly these people are.
Good morning Christy! Great post; off to read the rest of it.
Feh. All that noise about liberals in general and liberal bloggers in particular being unemployed or worse, teachers, is just ad hominem in lieu of an actual argument.
Miyazake rocks. Mononoke is even political, although not suitable for a small child.
You go, Christy. Right there, between the lines, is one of the reasons that the media has failed us and enables the so-wrong right in its bashing us as pajama-wearing DFH’s.
We’ve actually done something besides journalism for a living, have checked in with the world that exists apart from the keyboard, and had to make a living in that world.
No wonder they are so afraid of us; we actually know what we are talking about.
Correct again, Christy. I still talk back to the teevee and radio when the BS is flowing.
If not for blogistan, I would not have the good information I can’t get otherwise.
Happy Birthday, dakine!
Is there a link? Safari won’t let me view. We love My Neighbor Totoro more than anything, though Kiki’s Delivery Service is also the bestest.
chinois at 9 — Love Mononoke, although we are certainly waiting on that one for a few more years for The Peanut. Really, I love all of his anime, with a particular soft spot for Kiki and Spirited Away. :) (Both of which are also big faves with The Peanut.)
Christy, I want to send your post in its entirety to every journalist I can dream up. And at noon, I am going to a luncheon peopled by a lot of them. I will give them the link as well, but don’t trust that they’ll bother to follow up on it. Can do?
How’s the novel coming?
barbara at 14 — Feel free. Although, honestly, a LOT of journalists read FDL pretty regularly — based on conversations and e-mail exchanges that I’ve had with a number of folks. *g*
Good morning guys!
Yesterday Esten was discharged from the hospital. He’d been admitted after going to the ER with a slight fever and his blood lab revealed that his numbers were in the basement.
Big surprise, because he was at the end of an intensive treatment phase.
He’s bounced back sufficiently to come home, will be drug free until the 19th, when he will begin a maintenance phase that will last until the end of his treatment.
Tunnel? Meet light.
Christy@16: I know they do, but sometimes, they need an additional thwack on the noggin to pay attention. ^_^
(((((tommy and Esten!!!)))))
God bless you Christy, for being you and for doing what you do. Thank you!
Mr. Bilfil — here’s a direct link to the YouTube. HTH!
Yes but now it’s time for FDL-TV!
Preach it, sister!
I think Frum’s problem is a total failure of imagination. He can’t fathom the notion that anyone could be ideologically farther from him than Joe Klein and still be rational.
Posts of that power make it extremely hard to continue to lurk in silence! Thanks for all you do…
Joke Line and the rest of the punditocracy are upset that the liberal side of life is no longer willing to kow tow to their pronouncements from on high. We’re just supposed to accept that they know more than we do even when it is demonstrably false sentiment. How DARE someone have the audacity to call BS on them! Why they belong to all the good clubs and get invited to KKKarl’s for dinner and get called to come on Meet Mr Punkinhaid and pontificate. What do we want from them? We should show them the respect they feel for themselves for having made it into the kewl kidz klub. Dirty f*ckin’ hippies want to start another cultural war like the sixties. Don’t they realize that everyone wants to be back in the fifties when it was all Happy Dazed?
/snark
Millineryman @ 15
Morning Christy.
Frankly, I’m hooked on your nonfiction. The world is served well by your walking away to serve as you do today. I can’t thank you enough.
Do let us know if that novel goes to print some fine day. I’d order it on the spot.
Oh, and give Peanut & Mr.Redd an extra hug from all us dawgs. What a team you are! ;->
nonplussed—
Welcome to the lake! Hope you will tell us what’s on your mind.
Morning Christy–Great post and the reason that a lot of PEOPLE–in addition to journalists read FDL.
As for Joe Klein and why he is so irritating. I think it is because many of us want to like him, we really do, because is is supposedly on our side.
I have read a lot of his articles over many years–and some of them are very good. But there is always something that has bugged me about them, and this irritation increases when I hear him interviewed, even on thoughtful outlets like NYC’s WNYC. And I finally figured it out. He is lazy. He relies on his cleverness and his writing talent to get by, but he does not take the time or spend the energy to really think about what he is writing about, to really dig into it.
This whole Harmon story is archetypal in that regard. He blew it because he was too damn lazy to follow up, to spend a little more time to get it right. And when he gets called out on his bloopers, he pouts.
That kind of laziness may work for rightwing pundits, who can say anything they want to their base and get away with it, but it doesn’t work on the left. Because to be a real liberal/progressive, you HAVE to think. There are no easy answers over here.
masaccio @ 24
Indeed, isn’t this the very nature of modern conservatism — an utter lack of imagination — that the inability to imagine a different world in the future, forces the fearful and un-imaginative human to attempt to ‘conserve’ the circumstances of the past…”If only Dutch were back in the office, it’d all be ok again.”
There will, perpetually, be the Archie Bunker imbeciles of the right who long for the past simply because they can conceive of nothing else.
tommy yum @ 17
Thankyou for the update, Tommy.
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Rayne @ 10
I thought DFH’s slept in the nude…
Tommy yumm great news!
nonplussed – once ya de-lurk it becomes impossible to go back.
And for all who have offered b’day wishes to me my thanks. As I said previous thread, I ALWAYS treat the day as special, even as they pile up faster and faster…
Onward Through The Fog!
Beware the Rabid Venomous Lambshers of the Left!
And you can add to your list of professions around here medical workers (of various sorts, in public and private practice), federal employees in all kinds of agencies, musicians, and accountants, just to name a few more off the top of my head.
{{{{{Tommy}}}}} {{{{{Esten}}}}}
Thanks, Christy — first for the video (I’m all choked up ’cause my third son’s class sang that song a couple of years ago at the end of eighth grade), and secondly for the post. It was the Libby trial that introduced me to FDL, and it’s the intelligent discourse — several times daily — that’s kept me hooked (and, often, behind in chores/work). I feel fortunate to have access to the information from those writing posts and those commenting.
Thank you very, very much for your insight and your voice.
tommy at 17 — So glad that Esten is out of the hospital and things are lookng much better today. Great news. Hugs to you and yours. :)
Peterr @ 34
We’re an eclectic lot, aren’t we? *grins* But that’s where our strength comes from and the pool of knowledge we all rely on here.
The anti liberal blogger bunch make me think of the self identified “cool” crowds from our high school days. They don’t want anyone else to sit with them at their reserved lunch table.
Then you attend your 20 year class reunion & the “cool kids” aren’t so cool anymore. My friends & I have had a lot of laughs at hs reunions watching the “popular” kids working overtime trying to recapture that center of attention status.
Peterr @ 34
And programmers and IT types (currently employed and otherwise).
Frum’s a wanker. Well done, Christy.
Morning Christy!
I read Klein last night… wah wah wah!
It was good for a good laugh, what a colossal baby.
Adie @ 31
Seconded. More light; less tunnel.
Peterr @ 34
retired subsistence farmers (= dabbler with a compost pile and lotsa friendly neighbors, heh)
That was a very good piece, Christy, and the previous piece on energy policy was great (thanks Scarecrow).
Tommy, it has been a long row to hoe for you and Esten, but I am thankful that you are coming to the end of it (or at least the beginning of the end.)
Happy birthday Dakine.
Thank you for all of this Christy. You have been a wonderful source of information, analysis, inspiration and warmth. I’d call that good work.
From the Eli Lake quote:
What if the netleft, that has created the impression that there is a rising plurality that would like to abandon Iraqis to Qaeda, Quds and the Ba’ath, are just a few thousand committed Marxists in their pajamas? What if the Dems have strategically miscalculated? What if their over-compensation is to appease a vocal 1 percent of the electorate that actually draws contempt from the rest of the country?”
This sounds like a true bushie 29%er. Notice how the marginalized are tring to marginalize the progessive’s? Nothing like ignoring the fact that 70% of Americans want us to leave Iraq.
Great post, Christy. Filled in a few of the gaps in what I knew about you and why you started blogging. Attorneys, like bikers, professors, and politicians, tend to be either the best kind of people or the worst kind of people.
One thought that arose while reading this post: I think that your professional expertise is, oddly, one of the things that MSM journalists feel is a negative mark against you (as with, to take another example, Duncan Black, an economist). Here’s the theory: for people like Russert et. al., they see themselves as functioning in a zone equidistant from all wonks. In other words, there are tax experts, legal experts (of all stripes, constitutional, etc.), military experts, and so on, then there are these mighty synthesizers who take all that and put it all together. (At least I think in their minds that’s what they’re doing.) Obviously for a president or senator this has to be the case. Senator Doe may have a field in which he specializes, but he still has to vote on everything, and must rely on experts (or lobbyists, but that’s another issue) who know the details. The best-known journalists likewise are generalists, and cover hurricanes, wars, and policy debates equally (and often equally well ). So there is this tendency to see those who actually know what they’re talking about as The Lesser Beings Who Attend On The Powerful. In other words, if you really know a subject in depth, that in itself proves that you are not serious about having and using power. At least in the Serious Circles of the Beltway elite. I’d be interested what people who actually work in DC think about this idea. As for me, I’m unemployed and still haven’t gotten dressed yet for the day.
Thank you, Egregious. I found FDL to be populated by a mature audience of like minded souls, unlike a host of other sites. I have bounced about the galaxy of left leaning blogs, watching many of them deteriorate over time. FDL really became my absolute favorite during the Libby trial, though.
That stellar live blogging performance absolutely blew me away. I especially appreciate you folks with the JDs explaining the law to us lay people in a manner even an engineer :) can grasp…
Good morning, Christy. Thanks for sharing some of your backstory w/us. It’s a privilege to know more about the person behind the keyboard I have grown to admire so much :)
The post above really hit home for me today- MSM coverage of major stories that effect us all is sorely lacking much of the time in even what I’d consider basic coverage of what’s at stake. Paul Krugman is on the same track w/his Fri. op-ed (firewalled as usual, but here’s a quote):
“Folks, this is serious. If early campaign reporting is any guide, the bad media habits that helped install the worst president ever in the White House haven’t changed a bit.
You may not remember the presidential debate of Oct. 3, 2000, or how it was covered, but you should. It was one of the worst moments in an election marked by news media failure as serious, in its way, as the later failure to question Bush administration claims about Iraq.”
Krugman- Lies, Sighs, & Politics
IrishJim @ 47
It sounds like Rahm Emmanuel’s wet dream; that there are really only a few thousand thinking souls out there who see through his BS. He can work around those numbers, can’t he?
Wait a minute: Frum thinks Primary Colors is a “truly fine novel”???
One has to wonder what other fine novels Frum has read, that cause him to make that judgment.
Woodhall Hollow @ 29 is exactly right: Klein is clever but lazy. He hates being criticized when his laziness is pointed out. He & many other MSM journalists have been indulged for so long (can anybody spell Maureen Dowd?) that when bloggers started to point out their sloppiness and their biases, they were utterly stunned. So of course, rather than try to commit better journalism, they blame their readers. Anybody who disagrees with them must be a crank.
Morning, Christy. I think you’ve spoken for many of us lurkers and near-lurkers who don’t have the luxury of time to thoughtfully assemble a post on why we feel angry that the Republican-controlled govt and their obedient press have failed the country.
As somebody who has an astrophysics degree but works as a contractor to (how can I say this delicately?) a govt agency involved in security issues, I can tell you a) many if not most of the people in my work community feel betrayed by the administration AND the press, and b) life here around the beltway is so hectic that it takes most of our time just to work, commute, and sleep. My involvement has been solely financial – I usually comment late, if at all, to blog posts.
Bottom line I guess is to validate what you said, and point out that there are people you DON’T hear from that are with you all the way, saying “right on!”
Yeah, I know you knew that, but I wanted to say it anyway.
Somehow, the difference between the left and the right reminds me of that commercial where the guy is talking to his shrink, and when he is done, the shrink starts talking to him in German. Different worlds, different languages.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
*waves to lurking journalists*
Just make sure you give proper attribution when you quote ReddHedd, guys’ngals.
CHS: “Our doc thought that 16 hour days and murder and other felony trials might, perhaps, be causing issues due to stress.”
What does your doc think of saving the constitution, perjury and obstruction trials, and generally combatting rightwingnuttery in terms of causing stress?
;)
Once again, Christy says what needs to be said just the way it needs to be said, only better.
thanks for the belly laughs from Frum, et al. What is wrong with these people?!
sofistic @ 53
Geeze, I thought it was Russian…different worlds, different perceptions. This reality thing is hard work. It really would be much easier to think of in terms of left and right.
Woodhall Hollow @ 29
My sense is that Joe Klein is on Joe Klein’s side, and anything that threatens his precious access to the current holders of power is a threat to him personally.
And to be fair, that’s a trait I see in waaay too many journalists these days.
Christy, Gandhi said:
“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.”
The MSM sees the end of the gravy train, and they’re just not happy about it, are they?
Of course, that brings to mind another famous (and unattributed) quote: F*ck ‘em if they can’t take a joke.
-S
Christy,
Great post. s-s-s-smokin’!
Because of great posts like this one and many of Jane’s early on, my PhD hubby, a military veteran (2 tours in Viet Nam active duty and then 25 years in the reserves) and me, with my masters degree . . . finally pushed ourselves out of our stupor of helplessness and lethargy that affected us in the past 10 years. Change just seemed impossible. The future looked bleak for our kids and grandkids.
But we were inspired, energized and pushed to get active. The progressive blogs were like a life saver for us.
As I’ve posted before, we pounded the pavement over and over and over and over yet again, knocked on countless doors and spoke to countless voters . . . and were victorious! We made a difference—-NO MORE POMBO!! Woot!
We do owe it to you, Jane, Howie, and all the other tireless front pagers who inspired us to get active and make a difference.
Thanks, Christy
hey. just noticed. the clergy has taken over our zed! and no lightenin’ er’ nothin’
wayta’go RevDeb! speedy lil’ rascal… *g*
johnSwifty @ 30
I think we should take up a collection for a set of capes, one for each of our main writers, each cape representing the specialty of the author.
And don’t forget architects. Real Architects. Not the “architects of failed mid east policy” kind of architects. Great piece. Now I want to watch the video. I’ve been curious, but have not had the time. My Peanut is all grown up and the small children I do know watch other things.
It would be interesting to know more about our demographics. I threw out my tv after the debacle of the 2000 stolen election. And as the print media became absurd stenographers to the Bush regime, I stopped turning to newspapers as my exclusive source of news. I turned to blogs and found in it a virtual community of people equally enraged and frustrated. And smart. Oh, and I’m a college professor and my partner works in home improvement sales.
Great post Christy! As I mentioned to Scarecrow in the thread below, I am grateful for all the lawyers in these parts. As a scientist I have found that reporters are not always up to conveying scientific information accurately. And in recent years it appears that some reporters and pundits don’t even have a passing acquaintance with the law. The posts and comments here and at the other sites I frequent are far more informative than the hand waving that passes for journalism in the MSM. Perhaps what has Joe Klein and his ilk in such a snit these days is that people like me, don’t bother to read people like him any more.
johnSwifty @ 30
Indeed, I see the whole anti-science stance on the Right to be a colossal failure of the imagination. One thing an astronomy background gives me is a real sense of what “a long time ago” really means.
BTW, not just anti-science, but the literal interpretation of the Bible. But that’s for another post.
Rayne @ 10
Rayne, OT and EPU’d from below: in re your raising of a future progressive President – Will this be before or after SnarKassandra serves? I believe she’s laid claim to the 2040-2048 time frame… ;})
At least Klein mixes it up with commenters on Swampland. Frum doesn’t have the guts to do that.
sofistic @ 63
They would each have to get multiple capes.
Keep on keepin’ on, beautiful! :)
Poopyman at 52 — Thanks. :)
Poopyman @ 68
You remind me of a math professor I had in College. We were in Calculus, and discussing integration, and how to do it right you have to take the limit as dx goes to 0. He said, when you think of a small number, you are probably thinking about 1 divided by a trillion to the trillionth to the trillionth power. But I am thinking about a really small number.
Math joke.
Peterr @ 55
Peterr. You hit on something there, & I’ll bet you know it. At least in our house, we found out long ago that it’s more stressful to sit silently than to DO something, so we regularly try to do our little part to help make things better…
We are the consumers of journalistic product. Like any item consumed, if what is available does not meet standards, we will seek other sources.
This morning at towleroad (via RawStory), the speculation abounds again that the Idiot in Chief is back on the sauce.
Bush on the Sauce?
I know it could be non-alcoholic beer, but with his pea brain a couple bottles of .5% might make him even more belligerent than usual.
Re: David Frum, his mother was a much loved Canadian icon. I don’t know what happened to David, but I wish you yankees would just keep him down there, PLEASE!
add a regular church-going technical professional WASP
married to a Mexican-American PreSchool teacher
Many moons ago, when I worked on a big campaign, before the author of Primary Colors was unmasked, Joe Klein was the political reporter you wanted to cover your candidate. I traveled with him and the candidate to a very Texas event in west Texas. In conversing with him and explaining what was going on at a barbecue, rodeo, dance and parade, I was shocked by what I considered to be Joe’s parochialism and almost naivete with respect to anything that wasn’t NYC-centric. It was truly a foreign country to him. It would be to a lot of people, but I expected someone as “worldly” as him to be a lot more with it.
Of course, when a successful attorney argues with a successful journalist, the attorney will always win.
Why?
Because attorneys are accustomed to having their assertions challenged.
I haven’t watched TV news in years. I had gone exclusively to internet, where I might find 1 article that interested me in a day. Then, I found Raw Story, and I began to see what never made it to MSM. They pointed me to FDL, where I found the best journalism I’ve ever read.
Fuck Joe Klein.
Right on Christy! ….but what’s wrong with kids in pajamas anyway? Aren’t they allowed a voice?
I’m no kid (turned 61 on May 29, same b’day as TRex), and never wear pajamas. But as long as you think clearly and write well, I’m interested in what you have to say.
This is America. This is the the blogosphere. The beauty part is that everyone gets to participate.
Hey Gnome, remember those maps that showed NYC as the center of the Earth, and everything off on the horizon was only a blip on the map?
I started blogging after the Debacle of 2004. I think a lot of us began writing out of sheer frustration and anger at the system that was just rolling over for the theft of our democracy, belly-up and tails a-waggin’. I never thought of myself as a writer or, god forbid, a ‘journalist’, but I sure wasn’t getting what I needed from the Fourth Estate. And what I was reading on the blogosphere made sense to me. If they are going to lie down on the job, they have no room to complain about someone else trying to get the job done.
Poopyman @ 67
No doubt, when a, “A long time ago,” means just over four thousand years to when Adam was kicked out of the Garden — thanks to that reconstituted piece of rib — as computed by a sage and judicious reading of the holy tome; and, compare and contrast that with folks who grew up thinking, “A long time ago,” is, “billions and billions,” of light years away…there just isn’t a lot of common ground.
It’s a shame, really, but if ignorance is bliss then it really behooves a thinking soul to allow the ignorant to wallow in that bliss. Unfortunately, like the Joe Klein’s of the world, they absolutely persist in broadcasting that ignorance.
tommy yum @ 17
Woo-hoo! Excellent news!
The only value from the last six years of Republic rule will come if the Republic Party becomes permanently marginalized. It’s the logical consequence for having foisted Bush on us.
sofistic @ 82
Sure do. Of course there is a Texas version of it that you can buy at the postcard stand.
People like Klein and Frum feel threatened by the liberal blogosphere. And they either really know nothing about the incredible talent and brilliance behind the serious bloggers who are committed to getting the truth out, or they are desperately trying to convince everyone who hasn’t “got it” yet that it’s not “real” journalism. I suspect it’s a bit of both. They are out of touch.
BTW, Christy, are you going to submit the above post to Klein as a rebuttal? I really think you should. I know you’re not into self-promotion and all that, but as you said, you’re telling this story for a reason. To debunk msm lies about the power of the blogosphere and the brains behind itthe movement. They have every reason to lie and cast dispersions on people like you, because it threatens their business.
And I think it would be nice if some of the people you mentioned above who are regular writers here came forward with similar stories and submitted rebuttals as well.
Do it for us, please? =)
Gnome de Plume @ 78
The Washington Press in general are all boys and girls in a bubble, right along with their enablee.
Sadly, I sometimes wonder how much of a bubble we bourgeoisie in the area are in.
(Sorry for the stacked prepositional phrases.)
Why do neocons hate pajamas?
sofistic @ 83
Do you mean this one?
Gnome de Plume @ 87
And that is the point. I think we even have one for our little town in the outback of coastal northern California.
David’s mom was Barbara Frum host of As It Happens on CBC radio and then Anchor of the CBC (early) Late News Journal, a type of news program that doesn’t exist in the US as far as I can tell. AIH is a great program also, still on the air but without the late and missed Barbara.
I checked out the article by David with quotes from Eli now, and all I have to say about that is I’m sorry for the embarrassment that Fire Pups everywhere must suffer from sharing the same last name with Eli Lake.
Let me credit the professor in my comment @74: Barth Pollack, one of the finest teachers I ever had.
masaccio @ 74
You’re bringing to mind Bishop Berkeley’s oft-quoted comment about “ghosts of departed quantities”.
Gnome de Plume @ 87
And of course, there’s a DC version. Unfortunately, that’s the one that’s gained the most currency.
Badwater @ 87
Unfortunately, it is really difficult to do away with as most anyone who remembers H2Ogate can attest. Even the corporate owned media was pushing stories in those days that the Republics were permanently marginalized and minorities and now look at where we are. Until they become another historical footnote like the Whigs and No-nothings, we must stay alert to the virus surronding us.
FDL is one of the sites I check in with daily. I get a perspective that is simply not there with most of the MSM. BTW… klein in German means small. If the shoe fits?
Must go to work. Must go to work. Must go to
Damn Christy, there’s nothing like a good cup of righteousness at break time!
E-mailing madly as I type.
nonplussed @ 48
What was most striking about FDL when I stumbled onto it was its maturity and complete lack of the mindless flaming that pollutes so many online communities. Muchas thanks to Christy and the other frontpagers for setting the tone, and to our incredibly diligent mods.
Diane @ 75
I find we also serve as translators and editors of inferior journalist “product”. Whether deliberately or carelessly tossed into the public arena, such junk must be met head-on and dealt with.
A lot of our problems today were allowed to grow far worse than they needed to, simply because no one had bothered to address them until the bloggers came along with their flashlights, tweezers and manure shovels.
It’s been wonderful to see the blogs develop into real forums for discussion and action.
;->
I’m just a mid-fifties kind of guy, with two grown kids, two elderly parents, and an abyssinian cat who thinks he runs the place. I’ve been with the same company here in Joisey for twenty years. In other words, I’m not much different from a lot of other people. And the fact that I’ve been coming here (and to DKos and TNH and TPM and other blogs) for the real story means that others are doing it, too. It’s a hunger for the truth, a need to somehow make something happen out there. People need to know that we’re not circling the drain.
Thanks, Christy. We don’t need the Joe Klein’s of this world–we have reality. Keep up the good work.
Joke Line is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
He is a first class water carrier and I don’t give a rat’s ass what he thinks.
And, oh yeah, I’m pretty damned sick and tired of the punditocracy behaving as if being intellectual is nothing short of having a communicable disease? Where would we be today without inquiring, intellectual minds? Founding fathers? Hellooo? They sure like to toss those names around but those guys were not exactly mental lightweights.
Like high school kids, they brand people like Gore as “uncool” and unacceptable as a candidate because he’s frikkin brilliant! Geez. Aren’t we supposed to sorta look up to people like that and aspire to be like them?
Well, no, then that might mean you’d develop a healthy sense of skepticism and start questioning authority and challenging the system so firmly in place. The system they all want to preserve so they can keep their flabby white asses on purple cushions.
masaccio @ 99
Hey! I’m woikin’ heeeah!
It’s good to have a dual-headed PC on your desk. Your tax dollars at work. :^)
Badwater @ 87
Though I agree with the basic sentiment above, the Repukes have a lot to answer for besides Bush. I mean have you checked out the mental midgets vying for the Repuke Preznit Nomination.
Do the names – Rudy, Mitt, StraightTalin’ Flak Jacket John, House Leader Boner, Newt, Tancredo, Shooter DickHead, KKKarl Rove, Gonzo, I Diagnose on TV Dr. Frist, Tom “I’ve killed all the bugs in Texas, the Dems are next” Delay, CondomLeeza OilTanker Rice, and JoMentum LiarMan ring any bells.
Oh yeah Liarman is a Democrat, RIGHT!
1. Well, I read the Klein stuff, and actually understand how he goofed on his Harmon reporting. And, those that threw rocks at him were a little quick on the trigger. But, Mr. Klein….you gotta stand your ground! Fight back if you get unfair accusations hurled at you! Klein acts as if everyone ought to just bow down when he speaks. That’s not the way it works in life. Be a man, or be a lamb. Up to you, Mr. Klein.
2. I am SOOOOOO tired of hearing these idiots rail on about Progressive Democrats…how they’re all pajama type loonies, and so forth and so on. I have found, and continue to strongly believe, that while we might fuss and fume amongst ourselves on occasion, there’s FAR FAR more normalcy amongst bloggers than amongst the Frum types in life.
Ghostman
Recommended reading: William Rivers Pitt column (Truthout): Double, Double, Toil and Trouble
mack @ 79
scientists are purty good at that too, heh ;->
So are salespeople!
Strategerie @ 60
Yes, yes! Whenever I get discouraged, I try to remember that quote. I have it taped on the inside of my desk drawer at work.
ccmask @ 90
Wait, I thought there was a “Pajamas Media” for right wing frothers like Michelle Malkin.
Long live bloggers, front pagers, mods, regulars, lurkers and trolls (speaking only for myself)….
And furthermore…
That would be our porcine pal BusChen Karl-off
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 110
The mere possiblity of an avalanche of such proportions gives me great pleasure! Thanks!
I blame a compliant press corps who wants to move product and fatten the bottom line rather than expose the truth. Dana Milbank, for one, who’s too busy ridiculing Iowa farmers’ intelligence (or lack thereof, as he incorrectly perceives) to actually compose anything of substance. The Maureen Dowd-type columnists are also to blame, focusing on Al Gore’s weight or John Edwards’ hair; and these are supposedly the PREMIER columnists for political commentary. It’s all hogwash. And last, but certainly not least, it’s a lack of curiosity by the American people as well (present company excluded, of course). How this nation became so indifference to the goings-on of its government is beyond me. “By the people, of the people, and for the people” be damned, they just want their American Idol or So You Think You Can Dance? The poor-performing press is not alone in this mess. I blame a large number of the American public for enabling them.
ccmask @ 90
mebbe we should call ‘em “hunting pants”.
spurious @ 102
I started coming here after I saw Christy at a poverty forum broadcast on CSPAN. It was a fantastic forum and I was soooo impressed with her, I had to check it out. Needless to say, I have not been disappointed.
OT – Jefferson pleads not guilty to bribery
Estiv@48
I think you hit it out of the park. In a former life, I was an internal auditor and our boss had the philosophy that a good auditor could audit any department. It’s the same philosophy as the idea that a good reporter can report on any story. It’s bunk!
The audit concept was shown empty when we did a review of the aviation department. I was not the lead on the project,even though I spent five years in fighter operations and maintenance. The project suffered because the boss had no idea of when he was being (what’s the past tense of “to bullshit”?)
Reporters who cover business issues and can’t understand the difference between “grew five percent over the last quarter” and “grew at an anual rate of five percent over the last quarter” top my list of lazy bums.
I think that the idea of journalism as a major needs to be reconsidered. Perhaps it should only be allowed if in concert with a major in another unrelated field.
Demographics: I’m a professor emeritus. Nearly as I can tell, that makes me a tired, left-leaning grumpy old fart with a white beard and an attytood.
estiv @ 48
I think you make a really critical point: “Here’s the theory: for people like Russert et. al., they see themselves as functioning in a zone equidistant from all wonks.”.
I think journalists really truly believe that they are objective, unbiased, reporters of truth, while all others have a particular point of view that must be balanced. What they fail to see is that ALL people have a particular point of view and their view point, like it or not, is reflected in their work. That is fine, so long as the reporter is conscious of this and works to cover their subjects in a fair manner. I think where things have gone off the rails in the MSM is they have lost sight of their own bias. They believe their truth is THE truth, hence they react badly to any criticism of their perceived truth.
And while they portray their “equidistance from all wonks” as a virtue, their personal lack of expertise can be a real limitation when they are covering complicated topics they don’t fully understand. It is simply insufficient to say “no crime was committed, because my source said so”. A good reporter must do their homework to evaluate whether a statement is true or not. They must be aware of potential conflicts of interest of their source to prevent being manipulated by them. It is no accident that reporters are mocked as stenographers these days.
And finally, I do think a reporter must develop an area of expertise to be really good at their job. TV news coverage has suggested that the same person should cover a hurricane, a fire, a plane crash, a murder, and if there is time left Presidential candidates’ haircuts. It is no wonder then that when they do cover policy and politicians, they do it poorly. The best reporting will be found where reporters are immersed in their subjects (Nina Totenburg, Ira Flato, etc.). This is where the blogs really shine. People who care a lot about a topic, immerse themselves in it and tell the rest of us about it. The NYT and WaPo have been left in the dust.
Delurking for only the second time. This post took me back to when I first found firedoglake. Judy was in jail and I was frustrated by the lack of good legal information in the traditional media. So I searched for blogs on the subject and wound-up here (and the next hurrah and a few other places), and I’ve never left.
sofistic @ 121
married ta one-a dos. happy ta make yer acquaintance. rant on liberally! *g*
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 109
I’ve read that article…much food for thought…but since you bring it up, SP, Firedoglake is a perfect place to ask an off topic tangent to one of the sub sections:
A personal hobby of mine is to collect interesting double entendre and innuendo, so my question is how reference to the John Cameron Mitchell cult classic relates to Darth Cheney?
dakine01 @ 69
Well, ideally these two potential candidates would serve in Cassie’s administration; I have a suspicion that one of them would really make an excellent USAG and perhaps the other head of HHS, maybe Surgeon General.
But may the best progressive win; it’s going to take a village of kids like mine and Cassie to keep the future going.
edit: just thought of something else, though…would be nice to start a college fund for Cassie, maybe a FDL scholarship? My kids have a nice fund already started, loaded with the likes of GOOG and AAPL. But it would be excellent to ensure that somebody of Cassie’s chops had just as nice a fund. Food for thought.
Man, I hate Marty Lederman.[/sarcasm]
I was having a perfectly good morning, and then I have to go and read about the latest atrocity committed by the Bush Regime.
We now see nothing wrong with kidnapping someone’s children as an enhanced interrogation technique??? My God, WTF is wrong with us?
Damn damn damn — how the heck did we give the keys to these idiots? And how do we get them back?
Alicia @ 83
Amen.
sofistic @ 121
What do you profess, sofistic?
a favorite quote:
another
stratocruiser @ 120
What a great idea: “I think that the idea of journalism as a major needs to be reconsidered. Perhaps it should only be allowed if in concert with a major in another unrelated field.”
I remember a woman in grad school who was taking grad level courses in physics as part of her requirements to be certified to teach high school physics. Perhaps journalism programs should have similar joint requirements, so their graduates finish with an area of expertise.
As a life-long Democrat, age 64, I have often had a problem with liberals (it is a relative term) conducting circular firing squads. As a result, most notably, I’ve had to live under Richard Nixon and George W. Bush. However, of all the pasty-faced gutless neo-cons, who I am amazed even have the nerve to write or speak, I think David Frum is the most disgusting. I can think of no more harmful, idiotic speech in American history than the “axis-of-evil” bit. The writer of that phrase should never not advise anyone on anything.
Hate to be the ant at the picnic, though that’s my usual role. The difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler killed or imprisoned his critics. Bush doesn’t care. Christy, you vented lots of spleen, but nothing’s changed. The Democrats facing the charge they were deserting the troops, folded when it is apparent the only way to support the troops is to get them out of there. The question as I see it is what can we do, rather than what can we write. Anybody for not paying taxes?
Christie –
Thanks for the post and the clip. I was irked by the Frum piece as well, but enough of him. Miyazaki is much more worthy of discussion. He’s a big fav in our house; so much so that when our Peanut (that’s our favored nickname for our daughter as well ) was 3 — she’s 12 now — we showed her Kiki’s Delivery Service and my husband read the subtitles for her for the entire movie. It’s still one of her favorites, though Totoro is mine. Thanks for sharing.
John Swifty: Tried to respond, but “loading preview” got hinky. Answer to your question: Sociology, but got side tracked into statistics, and some IT (I hated IT, they made me do it). Did Institutional Research and planning for many years, but sociology was always my first love. And, BTW, I don’t profess anything anymore. I am retired and love it.
Ed Kunin @ 134
no
Christy –
Wow.
What I want is for you to run for Senate. Because you really should replace Robert Byrd. You pretty much wrote your declaration speech. :)
You know the issues that the people of West Virginia need to have addressed. And you speak for many people in the United States whose voices are too often not heard.
The Peanut and Mr. Reddhead might have other ideas for your time. But I for one stand in awe of your intellect, compassion, and common sense.
I fell into blogging out of sheer frustration and anger at the criminal war and the rampant, corruption I was witnessing in our government. The Libby trial turned me into a regular FDL reader.
I’m a professional who works in the IT industry. I relate to Christy’s story because I too have always worked (and too many crazy hours). I gave birth to my only child, in Dec. 2003 after fertility treatments. I took a year off work to be with him. It is during this time that I really started reading political blogs because the msm was not covering anything and I was so angry. To ease myself back into the work force, I started consulting work from home. This is how I was even able to follow the Libby trial so closely.
As of yesterday, I just accepted a job offer at a firm. I’m very excited about it because I think I found the right place for me at this time with a little one, and because the job market in IT in the Midwest is a tough one these days.
Christy, I love it when you are feisty! Great post.
Happy birthday to dakine!!!!
Here’s hoping for more light for Tommy and Esten!!!!
OT: Anyone besides me having problems with the refresh button? I works sporatically. Right now it isn’t there at all. I’m using latest version of IE.
By the way, did I mention I really like the enhansed site design? It loads much faster for me than the old one.
sofistic @ 135
I do IT. I want to be retired and read FDL all day…sigh! You have my undying jealousy.
Quzi—
Congratulations about your new job and very interesting story. Probably a lot of us fell into blogging out of sheer hairpulling angst with the political situation.
Ed Kunin @ 134
Good luck with that. I admire people who are willing to go to jail for their beliefs (don’t kid yourself about that — what you’re describing is evasion, which is a felony under Internal Revenue Code Section 7201, and there’s no “pure heart, empty head” defense). But I’m not. I’ve got a kid to raise.
Besides, do you really want to take an action that plays right into the hands of an idiot like Grover Norquist?
PS — in celebration of my job offer, I will be mailing a check to FDL this weekend. Thank all of you here for what you do! You surely helped me keep my sanity…and all of you are what make our country great!
What sent me back to time machine was Eli’s comment about “a few thousand committed Marxists in their pajamas.” I checked the dials, and no, the dial wasn’t on 1955, not even close to 1960.
“…committed Marxists?” Jeeezzzzzzze. I had forgotten how much I miss that kind if name calling. It brings back to those wonderful days when an illiterate need only use word — “commie” to suffice. As for the “pajama” bit, the only person who still continues to use pajamas is the very aged Hugh Hefner.Perhaps Eli, poor soul, is caught in a time warp of his own making. In all these decades the very best he can come up with is “Marxist.” That is soooooo sad.
You know, my wife and I felt all alone in what seemed like an alien world, and we found FDL after exploring many other places, and it felt like coming home. We didn’t feel alone anymore, and there were so many people who felt the same.
Don’t get sidetracked, people. Frum wouldn’t stoop to even think about the “netleft” if it were not a fundraising base. Remember Paul Hackett? I remember, close the end of his campaign, bewildered Repub operatives saying “Where is all this money coming from?”
Heh.
Quzi @ 139
Wow, Quzi, you almost wrote my story for me.
And yeah, IT is damned tough here in the midwest.
edit: btw, congrats on the new gig!!
Nonprofit professional, working for urban public library. Stopped watching television after 9-11 [good for health, good for sanity]. Found FDL in 2004/2005: loved the writing, loved the great graphics that Jane and Redd posted with their writing.
Married to policy wonk, so always knowledgable and interested in politics and policy issues, regular reader of The American Prospect, NY Times. Irregular reader of The Nation.
Radicalized by Bush/Cheney cabal, got involved in 2004 campaign [contributed to Dean before primaries began, protested at Republican Convention in NYC, campaigned and contributed to Kerry/Edwards], got more involved in 2006 [contributed, volunteered for congressional campaign, joined DFA, regularly call senators & representatives offices (both local & DC)]. Tired of print media that doesn’t challenge lies and distortions.
Lived in DC for two years: the inside-the-Beltway syndrome is very, very real. Everyone in DC thinks that what they do is the most important thing in the world. Had a job offer to go back to DC and turned it down because the place is so unreal [which may explain why MoDo’s pieces come out the way they do: DC’s her hometown].
Love the community and shared perspectives here at the ‘Lake. Many thanks to Jane and Christy, the other front pagers, the mods, and the wonderful commenters. I’ve learned a lot, especially how to articulate my values, and am grateful to all of you.
((((Christy))))
I have a friend who works in a DA’s office. She’s had to do similar stuff and what you just wrote could have come out of her mouth/keyboard.
Great, inspiring post again Christy. Thanks!
This is OT but I have been watching/listening to Markey’s hearing on greenhouse gas regulation. Makes me proud he’s my rep. I was also very impressed with Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD). I looked at her record and she seems very good. We might want to think about inviting her in sometime just to get to know her better.
Thank you, egregious! This is such a great community. I don’t always have time to post, but I know all of the regulars here from reading their comments…
I for one hope those lurking journalists also read the comments attached to every excellent post because that is where, IMO, the true analysis and interaction occurs. The original post is expanded, expounded on, explained, and otherwise becomes much, much more meaningful and important.
Christy and Jane have both said, many times, that it is commenters who make the community based on the excellent work of our leaders. Thanks all who help. Including mods.
I am a retired legal secretary. I love reading legal briefs and devour the legal analysis. Sometimes I wear pajamas, but, Mr. klein, that does not limit my brain activity in any way.
Rayne @ 148
It’s not too tough if you travel…wait, that makes it tough…damn!
burnspbesq @ 143
Bush doesn’t have to have critics jailed or killed, he just sets out minions to descredit and destroy them. Doesn’t matter if they’re Republican, career military, doesn’t matter. They get slimed.
As for not paying taxes, I heard Chris Hedges (author of American Facists) say he was going to stop paying taxes. Lord, I wish it were that easy. I can’t afford to go to jail either. The more pinched we get, the harder it is to fight back, which, of course, is exactly what they want.
phred @ 132
Uh. It has been my experience that journalism majors have a total fear of (and therefore complete bias against) the hard sciences. This is not true in all cases, obviously, as there has been much good reporting on science issues, but mainly in science-oriented publications. I imagine that journalists who land jobs with mainstream pubs have been selected precisely because of their lack of specialization.
I will be glad to be proven wrong about this, but I’m not holding my breath.
And I have to assume that the same applies in other areas such as economics, law, etc.
Is there anyone here who is not in a rewarding relationship and does not have children? I seem to feel the odd woman out. It is very lonely.
As I recall, Primary Colors was published as written anonymously. That’s a lot different from using a pen-name – a nom de blog, if you will – to write under. Writing under a pen name is an old and well-established practice: see ‘O Henry’, ‘Mark Twain’ and ‘Lewis Carroll’. (More recently, authors may write under different names for different genres.)
But Frum probably hasn’t read either one, and hasn’t enough curiosity to find out about pseudonyms as opposed to anonymity.
And in the snark department: I’ve heard of people changing their college majors to journalism because they couldn’t meet the math requirements of majors like English.
Thanks, Rayne! I love your comments here and at TNH. It’s interesting that we have so much in common!
chinois @ 9
Hee. It depends on how small the small child is. My younger son accidently caught a bit of Mononoke and wouldn’t stop asking about it. His emotional issues, unlike his elder brother, aren’t bothered by movies, so we let him watch it at age 6. He’s 10 now and it’s still his favorite movie, though Porco Rosso and Nausicaa are also up there.
As for the stuff about bloggers, I AM a failed professional sitting at home in my pajamas, actually. I’m not a successful blogger either. ^_^ There’s that whole chronic illness thing though, to mitigate all of that.
Poopyman @ 156
But not in “Popular Mechanics.” When I sit around in my pajamas reading 9/11 conspiracy sites and eating cheetoes, I am utterly convinced that Popular Mechanics is part of the over arching evil plot!
Mandrake @ 155
What Christy DID do, as part of a larger on-line movement, was to give those of us who were fed up with the status quo a way to make our voices heard via ActBlue and Moveon.org. I’d like to think that the money I spent on about 30 races in 2006 had some effect in the outcome, which as you’ll recall wasn’t expected to include control of the Senate.
So no, it’s not that nothing’s changed. The struggle just isn’t over. Barely begun, actually.
I’m continually infuriated at the degree to which this gets short-shrifted in public discourse. Even Murray Waas failed to mention it when discussing the Plame affair on Democracy Now! this Wednesday.
Karl Rove retains his security clearance for no reason other than the media’s failure to pursue this point.
DreamingCrow—
How are things going with your son’s situation? Hope you are well.
christy,
you are to be endlessly thanked and praised for the contributions you personally have made to reporting and political discourse, and for the greater impact you and jane have made with firedoglake.
frum is almost by self-definition an irrelevant whiny boy. my gosh, he actually took CREDIT for axis of evil, as if it was something brilliant, instead of a phrase that wouldn’t make it as a title of a bad Avengers comic.
he and his kind are threatened by the citizens of all wlaks of life who as an avocation write better essays and engage in more dynamic and challenging debate than he and his kind do as a profession. his pissing on bloggers is nothing less than, once again, the character attack that typifies the lame, the defeated, the neocon.
Today’s short question (and will have an obvious answer I have not perceived yet) is where is the ‘refresh’ button just about the ‘leave a reply’ tag. Ummmm, and wish I could center the column which now appears at the far left and not in the middle as before.
Do I need to do something? Caution – I am a computer ignoramus and please couch answers in 1st grade language. Thanks.
MSM brought me to the Lake in the spring of 2006, after I read an article about FDL’s coverage of Dame Judith–written by Ron Rosenblaum in New York Mag. He said he was in love with Christy because of her then handle, ReddHedd, and of course because of her posts.
You’ve hit on a consistent thing I’ve observed about most of the righty bloggers (and indeed, most of the right-wing Kool-ade drinkers): lack of reality perception. As in, raised at the country club, or raised with religious blinders on, or raised by parents who should never have been parents and thus have taught their kids intolerance and hatred and lack of respect for others, or ill-educated (even when they have elite college degrees) or just plain ignorant even despite the advantages they’ve had.
It’s sad that these people always seem to rise to the top through no hard work and much waste of others’ time.
Klein, Coulter, Malkin, Althouse, Bush, Limbaugh, Robertson, and so many others who admire them… well, they’re big-time losers when it comes to living in the real world. And they can’t see that because they’re too stupid, to imbued with their own self-importance to know any better.
Christy,
Great post. I’m not sure my 32 years working for DoD make me much of a crazy liberal, but I sure do find a lot to relate to and agree with on FDL.
Keep up the wonderful work!!
Mandrake @ 157
There’s always Peter Sellers. Anyone with an appreciation for the greatest satirist to ever be projected on the silver screen, cannot ever be truly alone. Have faith, rent “Being There.” Read “Painted Bird” … wait, I’m projecting my own little transitive mechanisms for dealing with reality…sorry.
Just abide, Mandrake, you’re cool!
johnSwifty @ 161
Discrediting bloggers, airing Paris frivolity, printing and airing misinformation, creating a hostile environment of us against them (political pundits, media demonizing anyone that opposes the war, or tries to shed light on the corruption & lies of this WH) is all smoke and mirrors. It is created to keep the people divided so that they do not rise up against that which controls them and seeks to destroy their will and thinking….
“I like to watch” the genius of Sellers
Mandrake @157,
I know the feeling. Many impressive credentials here.
P J Evans @ 158
moreover, not to get all drawn up with the wrangling over primary colors, which was settled a decade ago, but klein relentlessly went out of his way to deny authorship everywhere, including to newsweek, his employer at the time, which ran stories about “who is anonymous?”
he was cowardly, and lied, and behaved sleazily, and acted vilely to those who made inquiries. he should have been ousted from the community of journalistic fellows; the fact that he wasn’t tells you just how spineless and principleless and toadying most of that community is.
GrandmaJ—
Everything is supposed to be on the left. That’s part of the upgrade.
A missing Refresh button is one of the things we’re still working to fix.
Thanks for your patience.
DreamingCrow @ 159
Dreaming Crow, sorry to hear it (about the illness). I can sympathize, being sick myself. But raising TWO CHILDREN is a lot–even for someone who is healthy!
Thanks Christy for all the work you have done in the past and all of the work you do now.
I’m a teacher and have finally seen the light, thanks to Frum. I now realize I do not need to care about the truth, and simply RSS’ing Frum’s posts is all that is required of me. Thank you Mr. Frum, have a nice day! :(
General, Ma’am!
As my old friend and little league dad in Ruston, Louisiana Weldon Walker used to say to the pitcher when he was 3 and 2 with the bases loaded in the top of the ninth
” ROCK ‘N FIRE, BEN, ROCK ‘N FIRE!”
And so you are. Boy, that was good ……
now to go read me some comments.
Hiya johnSwifty (if you’re still here):
It’s been a while. Been traveling? I have–mostly on weekends. Let’s get some local FDLers together and start planning to get Norm out.
Another thing…I do not consider myself a lefty. I think I have fairly moderate views on many issues and and I vote indepndently. I am not beholden to any political party.
And I cannot think of a better place to come to educate myself and experience community because their is so much truth, intelligence, analysis and comraderie here –
P J Evans @ 158
It sure was. What’s more, until Klein was finally forced to ‘fess up, he not only repeatedly denied writing it, but viciously attacked people who dared link him to the book.
Oh, Frum probably has — and he probably knows all about authors like John (Sandford) Camp, the former St. Paul Pioneer Press journalist who became a crime novelist under a penname. Or Benjamin Franklin, who used a plethora of pennames in his career as a journalist and publisher. Frum’s just pretending to be ignorant, because otherwise he’s a big fat hypocrite.
Heh. And of course, a working knowledge of math is essential for in-depth understanding the biggest scandals of the day.
The targets of DoJ corruption aren’t happy that these modern day Custers are aiming at them. Forked tongues once again
Fresh thread, for anyone who’d like some new quarters…
Note on site performance:
the “Refresh Comments” button starts the little wheel turning but seems to hang. The browser’s (Opera) refresh function brings in the new comments in about two seconds.
Perhaps consider dropping the ‘!’ from the “Refreshing comments list!” message; it always seems that the software is being self-congratulatory and winds up looking a little silly when it hangs.
Just got out of Steve Gilliard’s funeral. Markos, Pach, Jen, Liza Sabatier, Maha Barb, Julia and others were there. It was a lovely service and a nice way to say goodbye.
The family didn’t know a lot about his blogging life but the memorial pamphlet had many tributes from the blogosphere printed in it, and Jesus’ General’s lovely graphic was on the cover. They seemed to really appreciate the outpouring of love that came forth for Steve.
At the end of the eulogy they said “rest in peace, Stephen…Rest in peace, Gilly…the strife is all over now.” We all cried.
johnSwifty @ 170
I don’t think anyone has a rewarding relationship all the time. Good relationships require an awful lot of hard work. Also, having children can cause a lot of heartache as they move into their teens and twenties. It’s not all chocolates and rose. In addition, two things: I doubt that everyone on FDL is hooked up; I doubt you’re the only single one and if you are single, perhaps it’s because you want to be. And that’s okay. We have to first know what we want, and then seek paths to find a fullfilling embodyment of that.
I didn’t consider myself a lefty until recently, when I realized the center had shifted so far to the right.
I’m an engineer who works in the commercial construction industry.
I try not to be too wild eyed…my corporate clients might freak out. Just kidding, most aren’t that far to the right themselves.
egregious @ 164
Thanks for asking, egregious. He’s doing reasonably well, at the highest behavioral level at his facility. There’s been some backsliding recently, but mental illness isn’t something that you can just get better from easily.
I do have a couple new posts up at Gap in the System about history and stuff, as well.
You bet a reporter has to know their subject well, even experientially, not just library research.
The other night I was listening to Charlie Rose when I heard Wolfowitz was going to on (for one hour, no less) to explain away how good and honorable he is and how nasty those other World Bankers were. He didn’t disappoint me. Wolfie was predictable but Charlie Rose had no idea how to phrase a question much less what poignant questions to ask in depth.
Wolfowitz opens/leads the interview into Indonesia, again posing as an authority and dear Charlie tries to ask questions. Wolfowitz, who never ventures out of his five star hotel and westernized wealthy gated community to know anything about Indonesia, expounds on the country and its people. But there was Charlie Rose giving him the reigns without questioning anything he said. That was one very pathetic interview and both men came off looking like stupid fools. Geeze! Know when to say NO or you will self-reveal with every statement and question.
Mandrake @ 157
Mandrake…I’ve been there. I could not have imagined where my life would be today back in 2000. You just don’t know what is around the corner for you. who will walk into your life — it is usually when you least expect it.
Lurking Mod –
I know you can’t schedule the news, but you better hope that nothing huge breaks before the bugs get ironed out.
Imagine what would happen around here if CNN announced “Breaking News: Scooter makes a Deal with Fitz” . . .
Please pass along our thanks to the techies!
Parsleysage @ 177
I have hypothyroidism, Crohn’s Disease, and psoriatic/Crohn’s arthritis. It’s a pain in the rear, sometimes quite literally. :p
Also, my 13 year-old is severely mentally ill, as I talk about in one of my blogs, A Gap in the System. Fortunately, he’s finally getting the help that he needs.
::laugh:: Okay, I just did what I always swear I’m not going to do and made a big deal of all that’s going on with me. :p
jane hamsher @ 186
a lot of people were there in spirit.
we salute you, jane, for being there in person. i’m sure it meant a lot to all who know the both of you.
(((((Mandrake)))))
(((((DreamingCrow)))))
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 110
Those ladies reffered to wouldn’t happen to be of Burnham Wood would they? Ladies of the Wood, Ladies of the Lake, hmmmmmm
jane at 186 — I’m so glad that so many folks were there, and that his family got a sense of how much he will be missed by everyone here and elsewhere on the left end of things. *sniffle*
jane hamsher @ 186
Thanks for that, Jane.
I have to say, the words “Jesus’ General’s lovely graphic on the cover” almost made me spill my coffee. Some of his other graphics are a bit . . . graphic.
jane hamsher @ 186
Thank you.
me too upon reading this.
jane hamsher @ 186
Thanks for the note, Jane.
I hope you all wake him well.
christy-thanks again.
you have my admiration, and most of all my respect.
dakine–happy double-nickel……would post sarah mclachlan’s version of ‘ol fifty-five for you if i wasn’t on dial-up
Excuse my ignorance, but I can’t seem to find any explanation of why Steve died at such a comparatively young age. I’m sure I’ve missed something somewhere, though I have read and admired his writing in the past.
theExile @ 202
Short answer: major heart and kidney problems.
Peterr @ 192
we would ALL have to go right to gabbly!
This is completely EPU’d, but that’s one righteous rant, Christy.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 110
I love reading Pitt, but I think his premise is shaky with regard to Libby. I suspect even if Libby has to serve all 30 months in the big house, he will remain silent. I have no clue what the motivation to take the fall is (loyalty or threat) but I can’t see him rolling on Cheney.
My “refresh comments” works fine on firefox. Is that the function you are talking about?
Biodun @ 180
Hey Biodun,
Yes, traveling. In the spring when the IT budgets are more than mirages, is when consultants must go on pilgrimages (apologies to Chaucer…like he still cares).
I’m torn over who to get Normy out for. I love my little Jewish commedian, but Mike Ciresi has this annoying habit of sounding really good anytime I hear him. Can’t one of them run for governor and kick Pawlenty to the curb…jeeze!
(How liberals should respond: Satire)
I have often wondered why conservatives such as David Frum have so much scorn for anti-Joe Klein bloggers. Frum is a capable speechwriter in the Nazi propaganda style.
My own working theory has been that Frum is hiding some personal demon — perhaps he committed some hideous crime against a child or maybe he murdered someone and the burden of guilt prompted him to join a militaristic faction that has no regard for human decency or life. Or maybe he just wets his bed every night and his wife refuses to sleep with him. Whatever the case, he clearly is unable to think rationally beyond his slavish obedience to his Dick.
You tell ‘em, sister. You may have to send it via snail mail to those who truly need to read it, and I hope you do.
As a fellow professional who considers herself neither a failure or a loser, I congratulate you on a splendid summary of your reasons for creating this site and a succinct put-down of the true ivory tower types who don’t get it. The word “rant” doesn’t do justice to this post. Thank you for all that you do to work toward restoring an America with liberty and justice for all.
jane hamsher @ 186
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Steve Gilliard the other day also. Please, Powers That Be, send us some more like Steve.
Here’s an LA Times write up about a wonderful friend who was also a friend of the poor & homeless- Mamie Hatleberg. I’ll be attending her memorial service later today. When you feel things are really awful in this world & you can’t think what to do about it, consider doing something like Mamie did, or donating to someone who does. She was just about teh best person I ever met:
Mamie Hatleberg Obituary
isn’t there a law against fiery reddhead’s and concealed weapons?
:^)
Hey, chill out. You have bumpkus to be defensive about. Ditto anyone with that hypothetical Ph.D. He’s just jealous.
Well said, Christy.
Those snotty guys who love to criticise and belittle people like you are doing it simply because they can’t possibly contradict the truth of what you state. So, they insult and try to create a veil of mistrust of someone like you – make you look like an uneducated bumpkin who is too lazy to get a job. They always go after the personal if they can’t keep up with factual arguments presented by an articulate person.
I’m glad you posted this!
jane hamsher @ 186
Thank you for sharing that with us, Jane. His voice will be truly missed by millions who never met him.
Dear Ms. Christy Hardin Smith:
You are great! May you be highly rewarded for taking a stand. Your self-confidence and risk-taking attributes can only inspire more of us to do the same. Thank you and your crew for beautifully representing what remains of human decency, honesty and integrity. I am uplifted and inspired. Keep up the excellent work you and the leaders at FDL are doing. YOU SHINE!!!!
for being who you are
For anybody still reading, I’m going to repeat a comment I made over at TNH.
I’ve decided that the key to the right-wing hive mind is to look closely at the ridiculous assertions they make (the ones most distant from reality) about their opponents. That’s where they project their own insecurities and demons. Why do Republicans obsess over voter fraud when it clearly isn’t a major problem? Because they engage in it themselves. Why does Corallo, et. al., claim that it’s okay to politicize the DOJ because everybody does it? Because they really assume Dems do it just like them. So just take this paragraph:
What if the netleft, that has created the impression that there is a rising plurality that would like to abandon Iraqis to Qaeda, Quds and the Ba’ath, are just a few thousand committed Marxists in their pajamas? What if the Dems have strategically miscalculated? What if their over-compensation is to appease a vocal 1 percent of the electorate that actually draws contempt from the rest of the country?
and turn it into this:
Deep down I know that the netright, that has created the impression that there is a rising plurality that would like to keeping on killing Iraqis for 50 years, are just a few thousand committed Fascists in their pajamas. The Repubs have strategically miscalculated! Their over-compensation to appease a vocal 1 percent of the electorate actually draws contempt from the rest of the country.
See, if you know how to read them, these idiots are veritable founts of wisdom.
[Demographic Info: White Male, nearly 47, married over 25 years to a lovely physician (GP), 5 kids, Deacon at my local church, son of a Baptist Minister (my Dad went to Bible College with Jerry Falwell!), work in Software Development]
Great work, Christy – thanks to you and Jane – two educated successful family-loving patriots who created what the Lake has become.
And Jane, thanks for caring for Gilly and Jen – and your nation…
and letting us all know.
Zed lives!
here, here!! I agree that journos should take some science in their college years. I did, plus I worked as a researcher while putting myself through journo grad school. When I suggested the same course of action for any journo to my grad advisor, she looked at me like I’d sprouted two heads.
p.s. thanks for the insight into Gilly’s funeral. I’ll miss him and his sharp writing.
burnspbesq @ 143
Ok felonies don’t work for you. I’m not sure they work for me. It’s a matter of numbers. If two people don’t pay taxes, it’s off to jail they go. If twenty million go that route, it’s a different story. Supposedly 70% of the American people don’t approve of what’s happening, yet here we are.
How about a general strike? Again if two people go out, their next stop is the unemployment line. If the entire shop goes out, it’s more meaningful.
With all due respect, I don’t see Moveon.org and the like as particularly effective. As for liberal blogs, I have one which, like many others, no one visits and I’m not technologically savy. Is there a way to link liberal blogs or create a central place where we can meet, discuss, and gain confidence that we won’t be standing alone? I’m not sure what we can do which is why I’d like to talk about it. Where can you go for that kind of conversation? Can we improve on this comment system which is, to say the least, unwieldy?
Writing about how bad George Bush is hasn’t worked in six years. No reason to think it will work in the next two. We can wait with crossed fingers for November 2008, but even that’s uncertain. We thought we won in 2006. I’m afraid, one way or another, we are going to have to figure out how to do it ourselves.
I just wanted to say thank you to all of you at FDL for the stories/news/comments posted here. I’m a stay home mom deep in a red state, and you guys make me feel that I’m not alone.
I just saw the movie “Idiocracy” and I recommend it to all.
pf @ 209
(Delurking momentarily)Yes he is, but it’s nothing that dramatic – as a couple of other people pointed out above, the only reason Frum has a writing career at all is that his mother Barbara was a very famous Canadian broadcast journalist and his father Murray is a very rich man, so it didn’t really matter whether he was any good or not – he was ‘a name’. Most Canadians found Frum’s neoconservative propagandizing unconvincing and tedious, so he went south where being a neocon is far more profitable and more importantly, where no one knew rich-boy affirmative action got him where he is. Deep down he knows he’s a total fraud, hence his inability to take criticism gracefully. The pompous git still shows up on Canadian news shows from time to time as a commentator and I have to leave the room, because he sends me into screaming fits of rage.
Ross Thomas wrote some great mystery/cold war thrillers that would be great beach reading.
Robertson Davies’ “Deptford Trilogy” is fantastic reading, but MUST be read in order, beginning with “Fifth Business”, followed by “The Manticore” and finally “World of Wonders”. I”ve re-read these books over and over.
Also, Davies’ “What’s Bred in the Bone” is a wonderful book.