Does it really take the wrath of God to refresh this man’s recollection on where he stood the day before? At the debates on Tuesday night, as we all know by now, just as Giuliani was trying to rationalize being labelled “Pontius Pilate” by a Roman Catholic bishop decrying Rudy’s stance on abortion, lightning blew out CNN’s sound system in New Hampshire (although truth be told, that might have been a delayed strike by God at Wolf Blitzer for hogging so much of the air time). Undeterred by not one, but two, threats from the heavens, Giuliani pressed his case that being for abortion even though he hates it (he HATES it, precious!), taking abortion or leaving it in the hands of strict constructionist judges is a worthy platform upon which a conservative Republican can stand.
So you’d think by this time, Giuliani might have processed the meteorological warnings about pandering to special interest groups, but sadly, no. The latest equivocation? Attaturk at Rising Hegemon snagged a tasty morsel this morning, identifying this week’s extra special Giuliani flipflop.
From Attaturk’s place, Rudy on Scooter (er…sorry for that visual):
“I think what the judge did today [to Scooter Libby] argues more in favor of a pardon because this is excessive punishment,” Giuliani said.
[my emphasis]
So according to former United States Attorney Rudy Giuliani, perjury and obstruction of justice do not warrant jail time. If not that, then what? Possession of medicinal marijuana? Jaywalking? Double-parking the car while you wait for the street cleaners to come through?
HOWever, twenty years ago (albeit an aeon in Giuliani years), Rudy stood on the other side of the razor wire fence:
The United States Attorney in Manhattan, Rudolph W. Giuliani, declared yesterday that the one-year prison sentence that a Queens judge received for perjury was ‘’somewhat shocking.”
‘‘A sentence of one year seemed to me to be very lenient,” Mr. Giuliani said, when asked to comment on the sentence imposed Wednesday on Justice Francis X. Smith, the former Queens administrative judge.
Now would you pay $9.95? By the way, no word on whether Justice Smith hewed to any particular political affiliation that might have influenced The Flipflopinator-to-be.
And yes, right there during the debate, Greg Sargent caught Rudy in another Giulianism, in which he proved that he was against English as the official U.S. language before he was for it. Because back when he was the mortal mayor of just a culturally diverse city, not Captain America’s Mayor, he had a constituency that was . . . how you say . . . tinted brown, with a decidedly foreign accent. It was a no-brainer for Mayor Giuliani.
And as per usual, the contradiction hardly troubles the media. Not one of Giuliani’s positions is worth dried camel spittle because he tosses them aside as soon as he’s finished sucking the marrow out of them, but that doesn’t bother Wolf and Matthews and the Beltway Pundits. Media morons transfixed by Giuliani’s “Big Daddy” image are so busy thumbing through their thesauruses (thesauri?) looking up synonyms for “heroic” that they don’t even notice the inconsistency. And really, the man’s inconsistency is the only thing consistent about him.
So, come on, Rudy. I dare you to take just ONE platform issue and stick with it. Just one. Show Ralph Waldo up. It can’t be that difficult, even for a mean little mind like yours.
Otherwise I’m gonna bust out the flowcharts.
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non-zed!
Uno?
Ah, missed it by THAT much…
no more zero’s. The price of progress. (heavy sigh)
I say again:
Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, Patrick Dorismond.
Heavy Rudy anchors.
Brown people who are/were not Rudy fans….
There was quite an article today in the LA Times about the fact that Rudy was so OUTRAGED! when defendants would lie to him during his days as a US Attorney, he urged stronger sentencing against perjurers.
http://www.latimes.com/news/po…..ome-center
Shorter Giuliani: “I’ll get you, Patrick Fitzgerald, and your little dog, too.”
-S
as long as fear is the coin of the realm, rudy’s the central banker…
,/
dakine01 @ 5
he’s showed often enough he doesn’t think he needs ‘em…
/
I almost feel sorry for Rudy.
He kind of had a free pass in NYC. No one really cared about his personal life, though not much of it was a secret. And the Dems were well, just pathetic (hence, Bloomberg as his successor). Too corrupt or inept or complacent. (which translated into an awful lot of apathetic non-voters) And he always did have the big money of Wall Street and the Developers behind him.
So it is not like Rudy has ever really had to run a real campaign against anyone (and its worth noting that he bailed on the race against Hillary).
It is also worth noting that he has been going around trumpeting himself as a “true” fiscal conservative. But the truth is that he left NYC, not only broke, but in debt. He tried to blame 9-11 (which happened only 4 mos before he left office) but that was also a lie.
these funny TV debates contain wingnut questions, softball questions, and unanswered questions. why not try some trademark bumper sticker questions, you know, the simple kind like “Who would Jesus nuke ?”
… Wolf : ” no, senator, i’m afraid giggling is not an acceptable answer in international politics. “
Wow. New subscribe message I got. Not that I’m opposed to subscribing rather than remembering to donate each month…anyone else?
Immigration bill is dead.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/…..dead_.html
So is Rudy.
dakine01 @ 3
Maxwell Smart? That you?
If you got the subscribe message, just go back to watertiger and scroll down.
This Dem cat is comin’ ta town in 8. Look out Fred and Rudy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
oddmommy @ 13
Would you believe…? (Wondered when someone would get the reference…) ;})
When is New York’s primary?
Can Rudy win his home state?
jayt @ 17
Primary? Maybe
General? Not likely…
thank you for sharing your talent.
Yeah that was a good one. The man who never met a crime too small to warrant leg irons thinks 30 months for obstruction of justice and perjury is all a bit much.
Coddling criminals, soft on crime. That’s says Rudy Giuliani to me.
OT: The pix of Mitt on HUFPO now looks like Dudley DoRight
Loo Hoo. @ 14
Hey, it wasn’t me, I swear!
Rudy sez:
I believe flip and have always believed flip. And as everyone knows that by believing in flop I will do all in my power to make flop the law of the land. For it is only as believers in flip that flop will allow us to progress as a civilization…
What a perfect caption for that picture! I love it!
America’s Mayor™ looked ghastly at the debate – even older than McCain.
Loo Hoo. @ 12
Hold on now, Salazar, is stating ‘Failure is not an Option’, as I type, so I wouldn’t write it off yet!!! Kyl is now saying, it’s stalled, but, it’s still alive!
It is just something that most of these “pro-fetus” (not pro-life) are the same group that wanted to invade a country that did not attack us, and send (mostly young) American soldiers into a completely unnecessary war. The consequence of these “pro-lifers” actions are millions of Iraqi deaths (the Lancet has to be over a million by now) millions of refugees, 50,ooo Americans injured, 3400 American soldiers dead. These people are not “pro life”. If they were pro life they would be for clearer decisions being made in regard to our International policies and actions. They would be in support of a National health coverage plan, raising the minimum wage (remember not touched of eight years) and equity in education.
Jesus Mary and Joseph how much more of the Republicans “compassionate conservatism” can our nation and the world take?
True story. A friend of mine has a brother who worked for a major wall street firm. He was not a big shot, rather a mid-level functionary. And he lied to investigators about insider trading that he knew about and enabled, to protect his own ass, but more significantly to protect his higher-ups and his job. Or so he rationalized it.
Rudy prosecuted him. Threw the book at him and refused to accept a plea in exchange for testimony–and sent him to the slammer for something like 8 years. For guess what? Multiple counts of perjry and obstruction of justice.
The guy was a 1st time offender. Had a wife. A mortgage. Kids. Rudy didn’t care. He went for blood when he was a prosecutor and almost always drew it copiously.
To respectfully channel Mr. Kiddo, let me be clear.
Rudolph Guiliani is a bully, a megalomaniac, a liar and an opportunist of the lowest order. And those are his good qualities.
His emergence from the pit of obscurity into which he had so deservedly sunk is a blasphemy to the memory of the Trade Center victims.
Don’t say the A word. FDL no exception to the “unspoken” rule!
The Israeli lobby has certainly been successful at shutting down coverage, discussions or debate in the MSM and in the blogosphere about the A*P*C Rosen espionage trial, delays, hearing.
The left often goes “right” (wrong, chicken shit) on the disproportionate amount of power and influence that Israel and the Israeli lobby continues to have on our nation and on our media. The lack of coverage, discussion, debate by the MSM and supposed liberal blog sites in regard to this investigation and trial is just another example of how influential the lobby is at shutting down the much needed coverage/debate about this investigation/ trial/hearing.
Here at FDL plenty of discussions about Libby, Plame, Attorney General scandal, health care, wages, Bush, Cheney etc etc, very seldom about this trial. This obvious lack of coverage or focus on the A*P*C/Rosen espionage trial/hearing demonstrates that FDL has bought into the unspoken rule that the Israeli lobby and this trial are “off limits”. This is the unspoken rule that dominates our information outlets.
Welcome to the “don’t say the A word” club FDL!
From Paul Craig Roberts (your mileage may vary) :
Giuliani is a media creation. Giuliani was unknown until in search of name recognition he staged a stormtrooper assault on the financial firm Princeton/Newport involving fifty federal marshals outfitted with automatic weapons and bulletproof vests. On another occasion he had two New York investment bankers hauled off their trading floor in handcuffs.
Giuliani’s victims had done nothing and were exonerated.
dakine01 @ 16
man, I loved that show!
Alas, it is nowhere to be found in rerun land these days.
kathleen @ 30
OK Kathleen, I’ll bite. What the hell are you talking about?
Woodhall Hollow @ 33
Arabs?
oddmommy @ 29
Amen, Mommy!!! Well put!!! Nice post, Watertiger!!! :->
There has been absolutely nothing (that I can find) written about the status of this hearing trial.
kathleen @ 36
Well then, how do you even know about it, whatever it is? Seriously, what are you talking about?
watertiger @ 22
I tried to subscribe too, but it didn’t work!
Woodhall Hollow @ 37
The Lawrence Franklin espionage scandal (also known as the AIPAC espionage scandal) refers to allegations that information regarding United States policy towards Iran was passed to Israel through Lawrence Franklin via staffers affiliated with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Franklin, a former Defense Department employee, has pleaded guilty to several espionage-related charges and was sentenced in January 2006 to nearly thirteen years of prison. Two former AIPAC employees have also been indicted.
kathleen @ 30
I learned that early on, when Suzanne had politely pointed out the effectiveness of the Filters! I had posted a rather blistering diatribe on those A*P*C A**Holes!!! *g*
I’m getting really tired of the bull. Truly, can’t take much more. Lieberman, especially, made me crazy w/ his latest lies on Iraq. Let me see if I understand JoeLie’s argument: If violence is down that’s proof that we’re winning. If violence is up, that’s proof that the insurgents are getting desperate…because we’re winning.
Can’t even laugh. Just truly frustrated. So, I’m begging my democratic candidates. Please, please, don’t lie to me. I need hope.
Oh, i get it the filWoodhall Hollow @ 37
I get it the filter blocks the acronym. As I recall this was done for a very specific reason.
Oops, my bad, I guesss.
Woodhall Hollow @ 37
Just what I said. The so called “liberal” blogs barely ever discuss this trial, status or delays,just like the MSM.
You have to search long and hard to find even a few things written about it.
kathleen @ 44
Yea, it took me about 5 seconds to google it and figure out what you were talking about.
Ms. Kathleen, I don’t think Team Hamsher has had the physical time to cover that trial. But I don’t think it’s off-limits to talk about undue influence of the Israeli lobby towards USA. I’ve never been censored here in my comments on this.
Ghostman
Ghostman @ 46
Hell, Oklahoma Kiddo rails day and night about it.
the picture: Rudy’s practicing a paunchy Pilates exercise.
Ghostman @ 45
Let me spell it out; A…I…P…A…C!!! Now that wasn’t so hard!!! *g*
CTuttle @ 49
I posted it at 39 with only a little delay.
raven @ 42
The FDL filters? But your post, posted.
OK–did a little googling. I would not blame the liberal blogoshere for a black out on this one, since it deals with espionage, Israel, the defense dept and neo-cons. Thus, everything one would want to know is likely classified. So what is there to say or write?
kathleen @ 30
Someone left you a link in the last thread. Sorry, I don’t remember who it was. I appreciate all of the links you give us, Kathleen, but your tone on this issue…
AIPAC.
Testing.
Woodhall Hollow @ 51
I think if there is something that hits the filter the mods take a look and then release it if it’s ok.
Pals, I leave with this tonight: It’s gonig to happen Dems!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
Sorry Mods…I didn’t believe that it was filtered!
Does it rhyme somehow with v**gr*?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
Hey Kiddo, this person claims no one disses the Israeli’s. . . sheeet!
Woodhall Hollow @ 50
Good Point, however, what is known about their web of deceit ain’t pretty, and darn right spooky!!!
Ms. Kathleen, you might want to figure out the exact court this trial is in, and then see if they have a web site. If so, they probably put a bunch of pleadings stuff on the web. From that, you can glean something of what’s going on.
In other words, use the approach of Ms. Smith/Libby as your model. And, if you glean anything, I for one would be interested to hear what you know.
Ghostman
raven @ 47
Too funny! Gotta love ‘ol OKK, though.
My response to you at 52 was seriously impaired Woody!!!
Ya’ll slug it out, I’m hittin the rack. Take a deep breath K.
raven @ 61
Nite, Raven!!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
from that page. heh, cool
So, Ms. Watertiger, can you link Mr. Ghoul to undue influence by any group, Israeli or otherwise?
Ghostman
Well, here are 2 links that I found via the 1st page of a google page, which seem pretty juicy. The 1st leads to the 2nd.
Link 1
Link 2
The 2nd draws an interesting line between Iran and Israel, which reminds me of one of the weirder parts of the whole Iran-Contra episode which is that Israel played some kind of a go-between role, which involved selling arms to their enemy Iran.
Go figure. I would be willing to believe almost anything about Wolfie, Feith and
SharonNetanyahu. I guess it is all about getting all the Arabs, all the time. Or something like that.Enough about Giuliani and A****C.
We’ve got far more important things to worry about:
Dobson hypes a pastor that says “lesbian sex” has caused
God to abandon us and calamity shall follow
kathleen @ 30
What’s happening with it? Are any of the blogs covering it? Linkies, please.
Bob in HI
I would like to know much more about the trial and only know of it at all because of this site and the free speaking commenters. I recall a time when Jane mentioned she doesn’t cover that area of “issues” due to not knowing much about them. (or something along those lines)
Whatever the reason I think attacking this blog for not covering something like a trial..is a bit like trying to start a circular firing squad on your own family..and speaking only for myself, I don’t like it.
Please share info and links about the trial but don’t create a monster just to ease your own frustrations.. especially when so many here probably share your frustrations..
P.S. I would be willing to wager punaise’s next paycheck that no-one has ever been censored for the use of the A***C.. but delays in appearance of a comment have occurred for reasons already mentioned above.
CTuttle @ 60
You callin me Woody? haha–that hasn’t happened to me since I was a kid (on account of my red hair).
Oh, and it’s quite quite obvious that Mr. Ghoul is a permanent resident of the Hyprocrisy Hotel.
Ghostman
Ghostman @ 65
Prior to 9/11, Giuliani’s associations weren’t quite so . . . international. Unless you considered Bernie Kerik the continental type.
That being said, after 9/11, when Giuliani capitalized on the tragedy by becoming a self-proclaimed “terrorism expert”, he started hobnobbing with a different crowd. And his lawfirm does a lot of business down in Houston with oil types.
Please do note, though, that like Hillary earlier during Swopa’s post, St Rudy is looking in vain for the missing lefthand column on FireDogLake. Perhaps it’s a NooYawk thang?
Woodhall Hollow @ 69
I was being lazy! No offense intended!!! ;)
kathleen-
you’ve been told repeatedly that people posting here focus on their own passions-they are already busy enough with what they focus on=and if you feel that passionately about it-get your own blog.
i am tired of it. we are in the same town, but your repeated aggressive tacks (rants) about it make me not want to meet you.
i was raised pro-palestinian, you are not helping.
find a new outlet.
Giuliani is a putz. That whole “l’etat c’est moi” shtik is pazzo. At least, that’s what this mujik groks. Still res ipsa loquitur as far as I am concerned. English is our lingua franca and should be so recognized. It is an Einheit Prinzip, not xenophobia, a true expression of our nation’s motto “E pluribus unum” and this is one hombre who is not afraid to say so.
Didn’t know you could wager someone else’s paycheck. I like it. A lot.
Has anyone heard from Alfred K since he was having a feeling of foreboding?
Spiritcatcher @ 10
hey, spiritcatcher, here’s a question suggestion from th Biden thread earlier today:
Dover Bitch @ 39
Loo Hoo. @ 76
Speaking of wagers, Marcy has posted. Anyone owe me 5 bucks?
Hi Solai #77,
I’ve been wondering about him too. Haven’t heard or seen him anywhere.
Hope he’s ok.
watertiger
thanks for continually reminding the rest of America what a piss-poor Mayor Rudy was.
If it were not for 9-11 he would be a bad memory faded.
“What was that a$$hole’s name again, Raul Julia. No he was a great actor, The a$$hole mayor was Rudy something.”
RonD @ 80
Oh, jeez, I hope he’s okay too.
solai @ 80
I hate to bet OKK’s next paycheck, knowing he’s a teacher so he misses a summer check and all, but ok, we’re on.
Thanks moderators for freeing my comment at 76. Its immoderate mode has now been moderately moderated.
Hugh @ 85
Mod-a-go-go!
IRT to Rudy, and let’s not forget that when he realized it would be tough (impossible?) to beat Hillary for the Senate seat, he quit. Blamed it on his health. I’m expecting a repeat.
Just won’t be able to stomach another fascist liar.
solai @ 77
He died valiantly from an infected mousing sore on his right thumb. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.
Seriously, I’m fine and I found out what was triggering my “sense of danger”; it wasn’t esp at all, but rather my subconsious mind beating frantically on the glass window to tell me to check my automatic financial arrangements. turns out, they had been turned off when my bank went to IE7 because the automatic script that reauthorized them didn’t work in IE7 and the bank hadn’t realized it. I could have had MAJOR financial headaches had I not caught it by that morning, but i finally did.
other than being worked to death, i’m fine and so are my extened family. My granddaughter lurks here but only until late night comes on. we don’t want her picking up EDP (whom i’m glad to see return)’s vocabulary just yet.
Thanks for asking! will try to post more by the weekend. One note tbough; my boss is currently IN iraqi kurdistan and he reports the “10,000″ troops were four helicopters and about 50 turkish special forces commandos taking down a mortar and bomb shop which built the device that killed a whole bunch of turkish soldiers a day or two ago. FWIW…
My greatest hope is that Rudy *will* be the Republican candidate.
A dress wearing, twice divorced New Yawker whos has documented xhanges of direction every time the wind blows.
I can just see how that plays in Peoria.
From Think Progress (via DailyKos):
Lynne Cheney, the wife of Vice President Cheney, is “being floated in Senate GOP leadership circles as a possible replacement for the late Sen. Craig Thomas (R-WY), who died Monday night.”
But how would they tell her and Lieberman apart on the Senate floor?
And will a bedroom be installed for her and Darth off of the cloakroom?
I too will wager punaise’s next paycheck!
Alfred K,
Glad your well. Except your thumb, of course.
Hey Al K!
Good to see you!
allan_in_upstate @ 90
Cheney wants one of his own in the rethug caucus to keep it in line. Call it Goodling XP.
solai @ 91
Lied about the thumb.
However, after reading 89, I’m now actively looking for brain bleach…
Contrary to popular belief, people in Peoria don’t play that much and folks in Missouri usually don’t want to be shown anything.
This has been a public service announcement.
Loo Hoo. @ 86
We had them a hopping for a spell!!! Can-Can, Anyone? *g*
allan_in_upstate @ 90
Don’t see it happening as the Dem gov still gets to make final selection from list of 3 Rs presented by state R party…Unless the other two are cro-magnon level knuckle draggers.
ooh, we get to play with punaise’s paycheck?
Wait, I’ll come in again.
Mack, I just don’t see Rudy getting the nom – precisely for the reasons you stated.
I think the GOP is going to be pretty fractured. The anti-abortion, anti-gay crowd will be vehemently against Rudy. The fundie evangelicals will be vehemently against Romney. I don’t see any way that these groups will possibly vote for these men.
I still think McCain will get the nod, by default. By GOP standards, he’s the least offensive and the most “electable”. He has plenty of time to let the voters find out more about Romney & Rudy’s past and voting records. He’ll come out smelling like a rose by February.
Only caveat is if mike bloomberg runs – they’re still floating rumors that he’s going to run as a 3rd party candidate. Our Ross Perot of 08. ;)
Jeez, solai, Marcy sure did post. OKK owes you either five bucks or his paycheck. Work it out with him.
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/
Evil Empire vs. Evil Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvZnTFpip0
allan_in_upstate @ 90
No Way!!! What a Coup!!! Insane!!! :-
I bet one punaise paycheck that Mitt Romney has a bad hair day in the not too distant future.
Mack @ 89
I keep thinking that, too. But if they steal another election we would be royally screwed. Royally. Seriously, we’d be in danger. He doesn’t just think he’s above the law, he thinks he can make the law. Right there…on the spot….do not question him.
RonD @ 92
Thanks. will have to lurk now, but should be back in link-sending mode by saturday. take care all (fades ectoplasmically away).
Oh, BTW, i’ve created a Twitter account for my alter ego, Alfred the Ectoplasmic Investigator. Locating Aliens, Paratime Invaders, and higher/lower plane entities a specialty. If any of you have played D D (with dice and graph paper, not on computer!) you’ll recognize him as a specialized npc i ran while DM’ing for my kids and grandkids. I’m making up a new adventure for him as I go along. The grandkids seem to like it…? here’s linky!
I bet one punaise paycheck that someone (like Rudy or McCain’s campaign) gets a hold of Romney’s hair/makeup bill and publicizes it.
My goodness – why am I sitting here posting without a glass of wine? I don’t have to work for the rest of the night – it’s vino time. BRB.
boing – cannonball into the lake while shouting that i have dibs on punaise’s next paycheck
TeddySanFran @ 73
dat it is. This 2 columns to the right really f**ks up my balance. Give us a strap to hang on, willya?
Evening Suzanne.
You here yet, Demi?
hi oddmommy, I’m with you on that (and no disrespect meant to the FDL honchos!)
Well, if punaise manages to collect his cut, he’s going to make out like a bandit.
dmac @ 75
one other minor point: there’s an infinity of horrible shit going on every day, every where, to all kinds of people and other living creatures……that NO ONE short of an omniscient God could ever possibly begin to keep up with.
Animal suffering, for example, is my own particular close to the heart issue. Am I gonna rant and rave because it’s not often addressed here?
alfred at 106
too funny, my email name, proxima, is from my dand d name from 1974…it’s a star….best friend ran a dungeon all the way from then to two years ago…longest running one i know of..his daughter is now taking it up at mt holyoke college……..how funny…….take care
Hi Suzanne! You can have Punaise’s next paycheck-I get the credit cards.
landofthefree @ 107
My bet is that there will be a major sliming of Tancredo between now and the next debate.
Or he will come down with a case of pancreatitis.
allan_in_upstate @ 90
If anyone has any doubt that these people believe themselves to be America’s royalty, this should put that to rest. Now we will rue the day the court ruled Cheney to be a Wyoming resident, even while running with W, a co-citizen of Texas, for the second highest office in the land.
Going through some of my old Ted Stevens memorabilia and notes from an interview I did with him 34 years ago and I’ve got to admit that I felt a tinge of sadness about his impending fall off the edge of the precipice for a moment. A short moment. It passed.
Mack @ 82
what might have been……
“Oh the pain. The pain.”
(ya with me on that one, Dakine? or other 1960s TV lovers?)
Where’s Cheney really from, TSF? Let’s see, who’s money should I bet…
Suzanne @ 109
You wish!!! Now pass the durned towel, Ma Cheri!!!
Demi’s in the house.
Here I am, Loo Hoo.
Ed*ard Teller @ 119
Hey, E*T! What can you tell us about this mayor of Anchorage, who is being pursued by both the DCCC, for Young’s seat, and the DSCC, for Stevens’?
odd mommy at 114-
one other minor point: there’s an infinity of horrible shit going on every day, every where, to all kinds of people and other living creatures……that NO ONE short of an omniscient God could ever possibly begin to keep up with.
Animal suffering, for example, is my own particular close to the heart issue. Am I gonna rant and rave because it’s not often addressed here?
exactly- i once offered services at a pound that was taken over by law enforcement. conditions too horrific to pass on here……it was intolerable, couldn’t get the smell off of me for weeks…….we all have a cause, but what is addressed here is posted. we join here because of it. all of the ills in the world cannot be addressed, just be thankful for the ones that are, and attack the others on our own way. privately.
i have been wanting to vent about that for a while now. i was tired of it. they (fdl) are doing what they can, and in my mind that is well over and above enough of an effort. those that don’t see that aren’t putting out an effort equal to it, or they would see it. enough said.
OK solai, since you brought up pancreatitis, I’ll delurk long enough to say I agree–I WOULD wish it on my worst enemy. I’ve had it so I know what I’m wishing on Tancredo! It was beyond awful. I was in a weird situation having to totally empathize with Ashcroft, believe me.
Hugh @ 96
Show-Me Pe-o-ria…you’re clever Hugh
Loo,
Have you had a chance to look at the Goodling emails on TPM that someone pointed out this am? Said there was a letter to Issa on alien smuggling. If not, let me know and I’ll go dig there.
and oddmommy
notice that the person ranted and left, which is what she usually does, i wish people would get a clue to that and quit feeding her rants.
And will a bedroom be installed for her and Darth off of the cloakroom?
For what possible purpose?
jayt @ 130
Brain Bleach, Stat!!! Or the ‘Undisclosed Location’ the shooter is always lurking in!!!
martha @ 126
And Jack Carter, who never had that problem before. Is it the poison of choice?
oddmommy @ 32
Maybe not, but all seasons out on dvd. ask at your video rental. (i’m a big fan myself.)
dmoore @ 128
The Goodling e-mails saying to use an alternate system?
I tried to mail you from work today, still no luck?
Loo Hoo. @ 121
He is from Wyoming; attended Yale for one semester and dropped out. Finished his bachelors at UWyoming, accumulating many deferments in the process. Elected to Congress from Wyoming; then moved to DeeCee, ran GHWB’s DefenseDept and worked for AEI.
He moved to Texas to head Halliburton, leading to a court case after the 2000 election (one of several, you may recall). This case turned on the constitutional requirement that no state’s electors may vote for a candidate for P and VP from their own state (a holdover from the post-colonial era, when balance was sought between New England and the Southern no-longer-colonies).
The court ruled Cheney wasn’t a Texan (despite, iirc, voter registration there) because he had been elected to Congress from Wyoming. Therefore, he was from Wyoming. Texas could therefore cast its electoral votes for W for Pres and Cheney for Veep.
Unlike Florida, where the Presidency and VicePresidency were in question, the Texas-residency case presented the possibility of a Bush Presidency and a Lieberman Vice Presidency. Imagine how the world might be different!
Hey, TSF,
I enjoyed your post the other day!
Mark Begich is staying above the fray so far. He term limits out of the mayor gig on April 4, 2009 and has expressed interest in finishing the job. He’s the most credible Democratic Party politician in the state right now, and should the “fray” get even more frayed, he might jump in. In spite of the fact that Young stole his dad Nick Begich’s seat, and that Young beat his mom back in the 80s, Begich has told a couple of people I know that he’d quit the mayor’s job early if Stevens becomes vulnerable, but not for Young’s seat in the House.
The most interesting rumor I’ve heard in the past 48 hours is that Ted Stevens has tried to make a deal with the Feds which turns him on his son Ben Stevens, former president of the Alaska State Senate, in exchange for keeping father Ted unindicted. On that possibility, I love this comment somebody made at one of the many Ted Stevens articles at TPM Muckraker earlier today:
“PLEASE tell me they ain’t just eating their own . . . That they are eating their young . .”
Wow, TeddyEncyclopedia, do you remember if the court that ruled he was from Wyoming was a Texas court?
I ‘m hoping that after I put on my big girl slacks and Jacket, with my nice briefcase, that I can come up with some more intelligent questions that W. T. F. are you people thinking?
What color blood pumps through your veins?
I mean, with the Cheney was at that March meeting and not one other Republica other than Specter voted for the restoration of Habeus Corpus, I’m stymied by what possible motivation these people have other than being ‘C & L’s. But no. I’m not going there. I’m going to check some voting records and quotes and, as I said, come up with some more appropriate questions. (talking to greg in the am – he was just getting off of a plane this pm).
TeddySanFran @ 135
I’m positively sure HoJo would have been an adept stooge for Shrub’s Maladministration!!!
dmac @ 129
actually I tried to engage with her and some others about this stuff a while back, because I have some inherent discomforts about Israel bashing. I even went and looked up that trial she’s talking about. Had the sense that it’s something less than a smoking gun…..
but, anyway, I stay out of the whole issue now, on those occasions when it is NEVER mentioned here.
TSF is upstairs doing tonights Late Nite
demi, I think we should stick to Iraq and Issa’s voting record. Did you see Elliot’s link? How about just big pharma, cuz I doubt that we’ll be given too much time.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Darrell_Issa.htm
Scroll down to health care. Mail me at terryolson at roadrunner dot com and I’ll give you my number. We can talk in the AM after you speak with Greg.
Let me know what you think, girlscout.
raven @ 39
As I understand it the Bush admin. idea was to prosecute the ‘former employees’ with a law which is never used that way, to say it was illegal for them to ‘receive’ classified info. And, the long-term plan is to use that as precedent to punish journalists who receive stuff from whistleblowers.
I don’t know what their current thinking is on that case since Judy Judy Judy has already gone to jail and there hasn’t been must whistling going on in recent months — though the recent e-mails from DoJ may qualify.
Maybe Bushies will prosecute to the hilt just because they’re jerks. Who knows.
Loo Hoo,
Sorry. Too blonde tonight.
Now, if you check your email, I think we’ve hooked up.
allan_in_upstate @ 90
This seems unlikely. It is true that Wyo. law dictates that a republican must be chosen for this seat, however, it is a Democratic Governor that will make the selection.
dmac @ 75
I could care less if you want to meet me, I have plenty of friends! People who can not handle a legitimate challenge are not people I am interested in anyway.
The responses to the challenge prove my point! People get quite testy when you question why the MSM and the so called “liberal” blogs stay clear of this issue.
Woodhall I am well aware of Justin Raimando’s articles at antiwar.com. Of course there are a few very brave people who will tackle and write about this critically important trial and topic. Very Few!
oddmommy @ 114
How absurd!
The A*P*C investigation, trial/hearing is a critically important issue, as important to the nations security as the Libby trial. Notice how uptight people get when you bring up the topic here.
Odd Mommy comparing the importance of your passion “animal suffering” and the lack of coverage of that issue at FDL and the lack of coverage or conversations about this trial is rather ridiculous.