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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/marcy-bats-cleanup/#comment-745053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Still seething over the 150 letters of support and as despicable as each was, none got me more than Matalin and Carville’s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:james@carville.info&quot;&gt;james@carville.info&lt;/a&gt; is where he can reached to thank him for finally showing himself to be the vile creature he is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still seething over the 150 letters of support and as despicable as each was, none got me more than Matalin and Carville’s.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:james@carville.info">james@carville.info</a> is where he can reached to thank him for finally showing himself to be the vile creature he is.</p>
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		<title>By: *ilbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/marcy-bats-cleanup/#comment-744726</link>
		<dc:creator>*ilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744470&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;John Casper @ 138&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744381&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;as the dust settles: found my way to FDL  via the Plame case way back in 2005, so this outcome represents a real, long-awaited milestone. of course, it’s not as satisfying as actual prosecution of the leaker would have been, but within the narrow scope of actual crimes charged this is a win. big thank you to Jane, Christy, Marcy et al.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seconded and btw that’s how I found FDL too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oct, 2005, blew a knee out and down 2 months. Thankyou, thankyou, so much shit under the bridge. Given hope when reality was in worp-drive. Have a hard time squeezing in now and then.  I love to lurk at the lake.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744470"><em>John Casper @ 138</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744381"><em>punaise @ 52</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>as the dust settles: found my way to FDL  via the Plame case way back in 2005, so this outcome represents a real, long-awaited milestone. of course, it’s not as satisfying as actual prosecution of the leaker would have been, but within the narrow scope of actual crimes charged this is a win. big thank you to Jane, Christy, Marcy et al.</p>
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<p>Seconded and btw that’s how I found FDL too.</p>
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<p>Oct, 2005, blew a knee out and down 2 months. Thankyou, thankyou, so much shit under the bridge. Given hope when reality was in worp-drive. Have a hard time squeezing in now and then.  I love to lurk at the lake.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744633&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;randiego @ 232&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744477&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 144&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LS @ 59&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was late-late nite Sat and talking-heads on Sun. Premonitions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The long-hanging shoe is WRT our major transform fault, which has been locked between Cajon Pass and Parkfield for decades, maybe all the way back to the late 19th century: nothing over 2.0 for the last umpteen years (and d*mned few of those). This week, two 3  (3.7, 3.5) in the same area, middle of the locked section, in a 24-hour period. (This is not a good sign. Something’s breaking loose.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t see any reference for this on USGS, only a 4.2 on 6/1 near Indio. Can you provide a link?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P J — you hear any chatter about unusual radio signals or “snow” being picked up by ham radio operators?  There have been other incidences where unusual noise has been documented in advance of a “slip” type earthquake.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744633"><em>randiego @ 232</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744477"><em>P J Evans @ 144</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LS @ 59</p>
<p>It was late-late nite Sat and talking-heads on Sun. Premonitions.</p>
<p>The long-hanging shoe is WRT our major transform fault, which has been locked between Cajon Pass and Parkfield for decades, maybe all the way back to the late 19th century: nothing over 2.0 for the last umpteen years (and d*mned few of those). This week, two 3  (3.7, 3.5) in the same area, middle of the locked section, in a 24-hour period. (This is not a good sign. Something’s breaking loose.)</p>
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<p>i don’t see any reference for this on USGS, only a 4.2 on 6/1 near Indio. Can you provide a link?</p>
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<p>P J — you hear any chatter about unusual radio signals or “snow” being picked up by ham radio operators?  There have been other incidences where unusual noise has been documented in advance of a “slip” type earthquake.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744477&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 144&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LS @ 59&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was late-late nite Sat and talking-heads on Sun. Premonitions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The long-hanging shoe is WRT our major transform fault, which has been locked between Cajon Pass and Parkfield for decades, maybe all the way back to the late 19th century: nothing over 2.0 for the last umpteen years (and d*mned few of those). This week, two 3  (3.7, 3.5) in the same area, middle of the locked section, in a 24-hour period. (This is not a good sign. Something’s breaking loose.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t see any reference for this on USGS, only a 4.2 on 6/1 near Indio. Can you provide a link?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744477"><em>P J Evans @ 144</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LS @ 59</p>
<p>It was late-late nite Sat and talking-heads on Sun. Premonitions.</p>
<p>The long-hanging shoe is WRT our major transform fault, which has been locked between Cajon Pass and Parkfield for decades, maybe all the way back to the late 19th century: nothing over 2.0 for the last umpteen years (and d*mned few of those). This week, two 3  (3.7, 3.5) in the same area, middle of the locked section, in a 24-hour period. (This is not a good sign. Something’s breaking loose.)</p>
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<p>i don’t see any reference for this on USGS, only a 4.2 on 6/1 near Indio. Can you provide a link?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744551&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cozumel @ 213&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744529&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 194&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;W *is* implicated, the testimony hints, because Cheney &amp; Dubya apparently had a little chat, and Dubya OK’d Cheney to give the Plame info to Libby. So if Bush pardons Libby, does that make him an accessory to obstruction of justice?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to who though regarding the alleged chat? Libby? Cheney?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IMO, this whole operation was a Cheney deal&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The evidence I’m thinking of was all made public during Libby’s trial. Sorry, I can’t cite chapter and verse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with your conclusion, with the addition that some of it was cooked up in collusion with Bush himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744551"><em>Cozumel @ 213</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744529"><em>Bob Schacht @ 194</em></a></p>
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<p>W *is* implicated, the testimony hints, because Cheney &amp; Dubya apparently had a little chat, and Dubya OK’d Cheney to give the Plame info to Libby. So if Bush pardons Libby, does that make him an accessory to obstruction of justice?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>According to who though regarding the alleged chat? Libby? Cheney?</p>
<p>IMO, this whole operation was a Cheney deal</p>
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<p>The evidence I’m thinking of was all made public during Libby’s trial. Sorry, I can’t cite chapter and verse.</p>
<p>I agree with your conclusion, with the addition that some of it was cooked up in collusion with Bush himself.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/marcy-bats-cleanup/#comment-744609</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744538&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;neokneme @ 204&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744520&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TiredFed @ 185&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
it was posted outside the court. they left the June 4th calendar up since it was kinda early still on the 5th when I got there (a little before 9). maybe they changed it after we went in. sorry, that’s all I know. did you see the story mentioned at [109] above? there’s a photo of the calendar posted outside Walton’s courtroom.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060407A.shtml&quot;&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; with Amb. Wilson..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;    “This is Richard Cheney’s last attempt to try to stifle free speech in this country, and we’ll beat the son of a bitch on that too, if we have to,” Wilson told me in a 30-minute interview at his office in Santa Fe, New Mexico. “We will find the work-around to make sure this happens - that she will be able to tell her story, so that somebody other than Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Rich Armitage and Karl Rove can talk about her.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leopold stood by his sealed vs. sealed story so some of us are keeping an open mind…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, we now know that even though we can’t find out what Sealed vs. Sealed is about, or who is involved, there are about 100 people in the DOJ and WH who can read the whole thing. Including, of course, Cheney and Rove. Its just absolutely disgusting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744538"><em>neokneme @ 204</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744520"><em>TiredFed @ 185</em></a></p>
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it was posted outside the court. they left the June 4th calendar up since it was kinda early still on the 5th when I got there (a little before 9). maybe they changed it after we went in. sorry, that’s all I know. did you see the story mentioned at [109] above? there’s a photo of the calendar posted outside Walton’s courtroom.</p>
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<p>Good <a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060407A.shtml">interview</a> with Amb. Wilson..</p>
<blockquote><p>    “This is Richard Cheney’s last attempt to try to stifle free speech in this country, and we’ll beat the son of a bitch on that too, if we have to,” Wilson told me in a 30-minute interview at his office in Santa Fe, New Mexico. “We will find the work-around to make sure this happens &#8211; that she will be able to tell her story, so that somebody other than Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Rich Armitage and Karl Rove can talk about her.”</p>
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<p>Leopold stood by his sealed vs. sealed story so some of us are keeping an open mind…</p>
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<p>Of course, we now know that even though we can’t find out what Sealed vs. Sealed is about, or who is involved, there are about 100 people in the DOJ and WH who can read the whole thing. Including, of course, Cheney and Rove. Its just absolutely disgusting.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744533&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jenny from the Blog @ 199&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like “the silence of our friends” and also Zuky (kai ching’s place).  They’re both serious and intelligent and they &lt;em&gt;happen&lt;/em&gt; to be people of color.  The posts and the conversations are always first-rate.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t have the chance to read any blog that often, but when I want something intellectual and meaty I’ll go there.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not a POC but I’m glad I know about those sites.  It’s a weird concept though, thinking about a color when you read such great stuff.  Who knew and who cared that Steve Gilliard was black?  But I understand your question.  :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;
I think this is an issue because blogs tend to sort themselves out. It is in our interest as progressives to encourage diversity– right here at FDL, too. And to foster intercommunication, too. I hope Jane and Christy will seek out the Steve Gilliards of blogdom and invite them to FDL for a chat, maybe to talk about diversity issues in the netroots. I wonder if that’s a subject up at YearlyKos? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The more diverse we are, the more influential we can be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744533"><em>Jenny from the Blog @ 199</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bob in HI -</p>
<p>I like “the silence of our friends” and also Zuky (kai ching’s place).  They’re both serious and intelligent and they <em>happen</em> to be people of color.  The posts and the conversations are always first-rate.  </p>
<p>I don’t have the chance to read any blog that often, but when I want something intellectual and meaty I’ll go there.  </p>
<p>I’m not a POC but I’m glad I know about those sites.  It’s a weird concept though, thinking about a color when you read such great stuff.  Who knew and who cared that Steve Gilliard was black?  But I understand your question.  :)</p>
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<p>Thanks!<br />
I think this is an issue because blogs tend to sort themselves out. It is in our interest as progressives to encourage diversity– right here at FDL, too. And to foster intercommunication, too. I hope Jane and Christy will seek out the Steve Gilliards of blogdom and invite them to FDL for a chat, maybe to talk about diversity issues in the netroots. I wonder if that’s a subject up at YearlyKos? </p>
<p>The more diverse we are, the more influential we can be.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: John Casper</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/marcy-bats-cleanup/#comment-744576</link>
		<dc:creator>John Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744485&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744470&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;John Casper @ 137&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Seconded and btw that’s how I found FDL too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;remember when a fifty comment thread was noteworthy?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744485"><em>punaise @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744470"><em>John Casper @ 137</em></a></p>
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<p>Seconded and btw that’s how I found FDL too.</p>
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<p>remember when a fifty comment thread was noteworthy?</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/marcy-bats-cleanup/#comment-744575</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744532&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PeterK @ 198&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744529&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 193&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;W *is* implicated, the testimony hints, because Cheney &amp; Dubya apparently had a little chat, and Dubya OK’d Cheney to give the Plame info to Libby. So if Bush pardons Libby, does that make him an accessory to obstruction of justice?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t know (I’m not a legal type), but even if it does, no problem.  He can just pardon himself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think so. But that really WOULD be daring Congress to impeach him, wouldn’t it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744532"><em>PeterK @ 198</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744529"><em>Bob Schacht @ 193</em></a></p>
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<p>W *is* implicated, the testimony hints, because Cheney &amp; Dubya apparently had a little chat, and Dubya OK’d Cheney to give the Plame info to Libby. So if Bush pardons Libby, does that make him an accessory to obstruction of justice?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>Don’t know (I’m not a legal type), but even if it does, no problem.  He can just pardon himself.</p>
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<p>I don’t think so. But that really WOULD be daring Congress to impeach him, wouldn’t it?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Cozumel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cozumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the letters. That was about &lt;em&gt;leniency&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A &lt;em&gt;pardon&lt;/em&gt; is a different matter entirely. I wouldn’t assume that all the letter writers are on board with that&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the letters. That was about <em>leniency</em>.</p>
<p>A <em>pardon</em> is a different matter entirely. I wouldn’t assume that all the letter writers are on board with that</p>
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