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		<title>By: bago</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/a-favor-for-sen-leahy/#comment-745528</link>
		<dc:creator>bago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If their mailbox is full you’re kinda screwed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744955&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary @ 177&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Argh - sorry Selise.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/03/kill-bill-neutering-bushs-torture-law.html&quot;&gt;http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/.....e-law.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks mary. just wanted you to know i saw your comment, and very much appreciate the link. it helps me a lot. dodd’s bill is complicated by the fact that it makes changes in another bill.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744955"><em>Mary @ 177</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Argh &#8211; sorry Selise.  </p>
<p><a href="http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/03/kill-bill-neutering-bushs-torture-law.html">http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/&#8230;..e-law.html</a></p>
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<p>thanks mary. just wanted you to know i saw your comment, and very much appreciate the link. it helps me a lot. dodd’s bill is complicated by the fact that it makes changes in another bill.</p>
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		<title>By: caseynm</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/a-favor-for-sen-leahy/#comment-745010</link>
		<dc:creator>caseynm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is there not even ONE Republican co-sponsor on this bill?  Snowe? Collins?  These are the two PROMINENT “moderate” Republicans.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really and truly, they are just spineless followers of Republican fascism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there not even ONE Republican co-sponsor on this bill?  Snowe? Collins?  These are the two PROMINENT “moderate” Republicans.  </p>
<p>Really and truly, they are just spineless followers of Republican fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/a-favor-for-sen-leahy/#comment-744955</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Argh - sorry Selise.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/03/kill-bill-neutering-bushs-torture-law.html&quot;&gt;http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/.....e-law.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh &#8211; sorry Selise.  </p>
<p><a href="http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/03/kill-bill-neutering-bushs-torture-law.html">http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/&#8230;..e-law.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizzy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Couldn’t get through using the toll-free numbers, so I called DiFi at her San Francisco office number. The staffer who answered the phone was very pleasant but had no idea what I was talking about. Californians, get to work! The number is 415-393-0707. Go for it, guys.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn’t get through using the toll-free numbers, so I called DiFi at her San Francisco office number. The staffer who answered the phone was very pleasant but had no idea what I was talking about. Californians, get to work! The number is 415-393-0707. Go for it, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744707&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary @ 173&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you, mary, that was just what i was hoping for (more analysis from you)…. but is there a missing link (bob geiger)?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the lack of &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN04060:@@@P&quot;&gt;co-sponsors&lt;/a&gt; for dodd’s bill does not indicate lots of support from democrats. sigh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will make some calls tomorrow asking for co-sponsors for dodd’s bill (kennedy and kerry are not impossible) and clinton and obama ought to step up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744707"><em>Mary @ 173</em></a> &#8211; </p>
<p>thank you, mary, that was just what i was hoping for (more analysis from you)…. but is there a missing link (bob geiger)?</p>
<p>the lack of <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN04060:@@@P">co-sponsors</a> for dodd’s bill does not indicate lots of support from democrats. sigh.</p>
<p>will make some calls tomorrow asking for co-sponsors for dodd’s bill (kennedy and kerry are not impossible) and clinton and obama ought to step up.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/a-favor-for-sen-leahy/#comment-744753</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744264&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 116&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mary at 110 — They are doing mark-up on the bill tomorrow — but I know there has been discussion on including a lot of Dodd’s language.  I just don’t know at this point how much of it has been included in the negotiations.  Am hoping to see a more final version of the bill at some point today, but it has not yet hit my in-box.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;further thoughts…. i wonder if the thinking (by leahy) isn’t that restoring habeas corpus might be all that can be done now (while we still have bush as president) and that it’s important to get that fixed asap.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i wouldn’t be surprised if dodd’s bill (fixing the mca) would be vetoed by bush. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if this is how the thinking is going… i hope that dodd’s bill comes up for a vote and if it isn’t passed, that work continues to get it passed… even if not until 2009. soon better than later… but later better than never.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-744264"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 116</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mary at 110 — They are doing mark-up on the bill tomorrow — but I know there has been discussion on including a lot of Dodd’s language.  I just don’t know at this point how much of it has been included in the negotiations.  Am hoping to see a more final version of the bill at some point today, but it has not yet hit my in-box.</p>
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<p>further thoughts…. i wonder if the thinking (by leahy) isn’t that restoring habeas corpus might be all that can be done now (while we still have bush as president) and that it’s important to get that fixed asap.</p>
<p>i wouldn’t be surprised if dodd’s bill (fixing the mca) would be vetoed by bush. </p>
<p>if this is how the thinking is going… i hope that dodd’s bill comes up for a vote and if it isn’t passed, that work continues to get it passed… even if not until 2009. soon better than later… but later better than never.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Selise @ 128&lt;br /&gt;
Here’s a link to Dodd’s bill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-4060&quot;&gt;http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....=s109-4060&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a link to a Bob Geiger piece from a few months back that I agree with re: the bill.  My ACTUAL preference - completely repeal both the DTA and MCA, but Dodd shows he understands what is involved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not thrilled about this language in Specter’s bill:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Limited Review of Military Commission Procedures and Actions- Except as otherwise provided in this chapter or in section 2241 of title 28 or any other habeas corpus provision, and &lt;b&gt;notwithstanding any other provision of law, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever, including any action pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions under this chapter.’&lt;/b&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it is just a muddy the waters provision.  It does nothing to really address the realities of the situations at GITMO and elsewhere vis a vis our detentions and provides the lower courts in particular with a lot of headscratching opportunities as to when and how they should have jurisdiction, particularly with respect to the attempt to foreclose challenge to the “lawfulness” (you could lose at least one of those “l-s” of the commissions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Without fixing the dispositive and evidentiary provisions in the MCA and without fixing the procedual issues; and without addressing what would and should be done with respect to all non-combatant detentions (the human purchase ones, for example, wholly unrelated to a field of combat situation) and without enunciating policy for how “possible” terrorists, taken not on a field of battle an often rendered or kidnapped or purchased or pulled from their homes in foreign lands based on uncorroborated or torture based or other “tips” etc. - - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;— I don’t see how the Specter bill is anything but a bandaid on the butt when someone’s just had their leg blown off at the hip.  I tend to trust Leahy though (and he and Feingold are the only co-sponsors I know of so far for Dodd’s bill - something that has further bummed me out over Obama and Clinton).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selise @ 128<br />
Here’s a link to Dodd’s bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-4060">http://www.govtrack.us/congres&#8230;..=s109-4060</a></p>
<p>Here’s a link to a Bob Geiger piece from a few months back that I agree with re: the bill.  My ACTUAL preference &#8211; completely repeal both the DTA and MCA, but Dodd shows he understands what is involved.</p>
<p>I’m not thrilled about this language in Specter’s bill:</p>
<blockquote><p>Limited Review of Military Commission Procedures and Actions- Except as otherwise provided in this chapter or in section 2241 of title 28 or any other habeas corpus provision, and <b>notwithstanding any other provision of law, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action whatsoever, including any action pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, relating to the prosecution, trial, or judgment of a military commission under this chapter, including challenges to the lawfulness of procedures of military commissions under this chapter.’</b>.
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<p>I think it is just a muddy the waters provision.  It does nothing to really address the realities of the situations at GITMO and elsewhere vis a vis our detentions and provides the lower courts in particular with a lot of headscratching opportunities as to when and how they should have jurisdiction, particularly with respect to the attempt to foreclose challenge to the “lawfulness” (you could lose at least one of those “l-s” of the commissions.</p>
<p>Without fixing the dispositive and evidentiary provisions in the MCA and without fixing the procedual issues; and without addressing what would and should be done with respect to all non-combatant detentions (the human purchase ones, for example, wholly unrelated to a field of combat situation) and without enunciating policy for how “possible” terrorists, taken not on a field of battle an often rendered or kidnapped or purchased or pulled from their homes in foreign lands based on uncorroborated or torture based or other “tips” etc. &#8211; - </p>
<p>— I don’t see how the Specter bill is anything but a bandaid on the butt when someone’s just had their leg blown off at the hip.  I tend to trust Leahy though (and he and Feingold are the only co-sponsors I know of so far for Dodd’s bill &#8211; something that has further bummed me out over Obama and Clinton).</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/06/a-favor-for-sen-leahy/#comment-744688</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744344&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TiredFed @ 168&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744308&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nolo @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;had a nice, extended chat&lt;br /&gt;
with my not-so-new best buddie,&lt;br /&gt;
sen. leahy’s director of communications,&lt;br /&gt;
on habeas restoration, again, today. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;she has marked my sentiments, and&lt;br /&gt;
has been very helpful with confirming&lt;br /&gt;
hearing dates and subpoena schedules,&lt;br /&gt;
over the last two months. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;check.  done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;she is great, isn’t she? she even answers her own phone!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yes! yes! — tiredfed,&lt;br /&gt;
she does!  and that is&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;completely aces&lt;/em&gt;, in my book. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;she treats us little tiny bloggers&lt;br /&gt;
just like the &lt;em&gt;wa po &lt;/em&gt;or &lt;em&gt;nyt&lt;/em&gt;, too. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’d make some crack here about&lt;br /&gt;
having such easy access to the&lt;br /&gt;
halls of government-information,&lt;br /&gt;
but i don’t want to belittle what&lt;br /&gt;
i see as her truly excellent under-&lt;br /&gt;
standing of the idea that the senator’s&lt;br /&gt;
staff is there to serve the public. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now, the cardin-chaired hearing (in leahy’s&lt;br /&gt;
committee-room) should be top-shelf, to-&lt;br /&gt;
morrow afternoon — barack obama as&lt;br /&gt;
a follow-up to the schlozman helium-&lt;br /&gt;
voiced prevarications on vote supression. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cooool!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-744308"><em>nolo @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>had a nice, extended chat<br />
with my not-so-new best buddie,<br />
sen. leahy’s director of communications,<br />
on habeas restoration, again, today. . .</p>
<p>she has marked my sentiments, and<br />
has been very helpful with confirming<br />
hearing dates and subpoena schedules,<br />
over the last two months. . .</p>
<p>check.  done.</p>
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<p>she is great, isn’t she? she even answers her own phone!</p>
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<p>yes! yes! — tiredfed,<br />
she does!  and that is<br />
<em>completely aces</em>, in my book. . .</p>
<p>she treats us little tiny bloggers<br />
just like the <em>wa po </em>or <em>nyt</em>, too. . .</p>
<p>i’d make some crack here about<br />
having such easy access to the<br />
halls of government-information,<br />
but i don’t want to belittle what<br />
i see as her truly excellent under-<br />
standing of the idea that the senator’s<br />
staff is there to serve the public. . .</p>
<p>now, the cardin-chaired hearing (in leahy’s<br />
committee-room) should be top-shelf, to-<br />
morrow afternoon — barack obama as<br />
a follow-up to the schlozman helium-<br />
voiced prevarications on vote supression. . .</p>
<p>cooool!</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-744316&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 158&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;They really ought to give the Secretary of State the booby prize. Gawd this woman is stupid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;y’know, rats are absolutely terrible swimmers, compared to squid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’d fail miserably against a rat finding my way thru a maze.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;stoopid or dumb, whoever’s been in charge of casting in this Grade Z admin. flick, &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; earned the booby prize, eh?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that being said, whut in gawdess’ name was she thinking when she took that job, egad!?!&lt;br /&gt;
ego is a dangerous thing…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;say, just what is it provosts do?  hmmm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>They really ought to give the Secretary of State the booby prize. Gawd this woman is stupid.</p>
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<p>y’know, rats are absolutely terrible swimmers, compared to squid.</p>
<p>i’d fail miserably against a rat finding my way thru a maze.</p>
<p>stoopid or dumb, whoever’s been in charge of casting in this Grade Z admin. flick, <em>they</em> earned the booby prize, eh?</p>
<p>that being said, whut in gawdess’ name was she thinking when she took that job, egad!?!<br />
ego is a dangerous thing…</p>
<p>say, just what is it provosts do?  hmmm.</p>
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