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		<title>By: mrobinsong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-742647</link>
		<dc:creator>mrobinsong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just read the letter from EX-CIA Director Woolsey. He says he trusts Skooter. That Skooter is worthy of trust…I’m going to puke.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the letter from EX-CIA Director Woolsey. He says he trusts Skooter. That Skooter is worthy of trust…I’m going to puke.</p>
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		<title>By: Chispa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741514</link>
		<dc:creator>Chispa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m so late to this party - I wonder if anyone’s even still reading these posts.  But I have a burning question…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WHAT is up with that ugly tie that Libby wears to court on “big days”.  E.g., opening statement, closing argument, sentencing.  Always that hideous brown tie with the diamonds.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At first I thought it must be his “lucky tie”.  But after the verdict, surely he can’t think that anymore.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s a story there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m so late to this party &#8211; I wonder if anyone’s even still reading these posts.  But I have a burning question…</p>
<p>WHAT is up with that ugly tie that Libby wears to court on “big days”.  E.g., opening statement, closing argument, sentencing.  Always that hideous brown tie with the diamonds.  </p>
<p>At first I thought it must be his “lucky tie”.  But after the verdict, surely he can’t think that anymore.  </p>
<p>There’s a story there.</p>
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		<title>By: Peace Patriot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741513</link>
		<dc:creator>Peace Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rawstory mentions Donald Rumfeld’s letter for Libby:  “‘I know Mr. Libby to be a patriot, a dedicated public servant, a strong family man, and a tireless, honorable, selfless human being,’ wrote former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_top_White_House&quot;&gt;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/.....hite_House&lt;/a&gt; _aide_Scooter_0605.html&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, if you figure whatall this Plamegate thing might really be about, what it smells like–coverup of a scheme to PLANT nukes in Iraq to be “found” by the US troops who were “hunting” for them after the invasion, accompanied by the heavy breathing of Judith Miller–a “made” woman if this scheme had gone as planned–scoop of a lifetime (and being there, according to her, on a “special” embed contract signed by Donald Rumsfeld)–part II of the plot that began with the Niger nuke forgeries–and considering that Rumsfeld would have had the most operational interest in destroying any honest professionals in the CIA WMD counter-proliferation effort, while Cheney worked the political end of it, this Rumsfeld “Valentine” to Libby has a certain piquancy to it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney, Libby, Rove &amp; cabal succeeded on their end of it–they kept control of the newsstream long enough to get their goddamned war, slaughter half a million of Arabs, and ensconce the entire U.S. military in the Middle East forever more (a foothold that the U.S.-based global corporate predators will never give up, no matter whom they install in the White House as the front man or front woman for this permanent occupation of Mideast oil fields).  But it was heavy lifting for Cheney &amp; Cabal after Rumsfeld FAILED to plant the WMDs in Iraq. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney is still fulminating about WMDs–as if he’s stuck back in July 2003, around the first of the month.  Can’t get that meme out of his head.  (’But, but, but…they were SUPPOSED TO BE there!’)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rummy failed.  Rummy’s gone (and this may be WHY he is gone).  And he writes to the judge about Cheney’s hatchet man, praising his “honor.” “Selfless,” indeed.  If the above scheme is what happened–and the outing of the entire Brewster-Jennings network (not just Plame), in Novak’s SECOND column, seems to point to this–then treason (which carries a potential death penalty, especially in “time of war”) is the crime of which Rumsfeld and accomplices are all guilty–not a technical violation of outing an agent, not a mistaken reading of intelligence, or even lying about intelligence, but rather a deep conspiracy to fabricate evidence–to illicitly move highly dangerous weapons and materials into place and stage a “discovery” of them–a level of deceit beyond anything they are now accused of, and with immense potential collateral damage not only to our own agents, but to U.S. credibility in the world.  And what Rumsfeld is saying in this letter to Libby is, “Ha, ha, ha!  See where ‘honor’ gets you!  Ha, ha, ha on you, Scooty!” He is dancing for glee that he got away it, that “the mess” (his failure) has fallen upon THEM.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rawstory mentions Donald Rumfeld’s letter for Libby:  “‘I know Mr. Libby to be a patriot, a dedicated public servant, a strong family man, and a tireless, honorable, selfless human being,’ wrote former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.”</p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_top_White_House">http://rawstory.com/news/2007/&#8230;..hite_House</a> _aide_Scooter_0605.html</p>
<p>Now, if you figure whatall this Plamegate thing might really be about, what it smells like–coverup of a scheme to PLANT nukes in Iraq to be “found” by the US troops who were “hunting” for them after the invasion, accompanied by the heavy breathing of Judith Miller–a “made” woman if this scheme had gone as planned–scoop of a lifetime (and being there, according to her, on a “special” embed contract signed by Donald Rumsfeld)–part II of the plot that began with the Niger nuke forgeries–and considering that Rumsfeld would have had the most operational interest in destroying any honest professionals in the CIA WMD counter-proliferation effort, while Cheney worked the political end of it, this Rumsfeld “Valentine” to Libby has a certain piquancy to it.  </p>
<p>Cheney, Libby, Rove &amp; cabal succeeded on their end of it–they kept control of the newsstream long enough to get their goddamned war, slaughter half a million of Arabs, and ensconce the entire U.S. military in the Middle East forever more (a foothold that the U.S.-based global corporate predators will never give up, no matter whom they install in the White House as the front man or front woman for this permanent occupation of Mideast oil fields).  But it was heavy lifting for Cheney &amp; Cabal after Rumsfeld FAILED to plant the WMDs in Iraq. </p>
<p>Cheney is still fulminating about WMDs–as if he’s stuck back in July 2003, around the first of the month.  Can’t get that meme out of his head.  (’But, but, but…they were SUPPOSED TO BE there!’)</p>
<p>Rummy failed.  Rummy’s gone (and this may be WHY he is gone).  And he writes to the judge about Cheney’s hatchet man, praising his “honor.” “Selfless,” indeed.  If the above scheme is what happened–and the outing of the entire Brewster-Jennings network (not just Plame), in Novak’s SECOND column, seems to point to this–then treason (which carries a potential death penalty, especially in “time of war”) is the crime of which Rumsfeld and accomplices are all guilty–not a technical violation of outing an agent, not a mistaken reading of intelligence, or even lying about intelligence, but rather a deep conspiracy to fabricate evidence–to illicitly move highly dangerous weapons and materials into place and stage a “discovery” of them–a level of deceit beyond anything they are now accused of, and with immense potential collateral damage not only to our own agents, but to U.S. credibility in the world.  And what Rumsfeld is saying in this letter to Libby is, “Ha, ha, ha!  See where ‘honor’ gets you!  Ha, ha, ha on you, Scooty!” He is dancing for glee that he got away it, that “the mess” (his failure) has fallen upon THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741245</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Mary (and James)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to assure you that your kids friend, Mr. Scooter, will be in a secure, but not secret location, and you can actually take them for visits.  He would probably appreciate the visits.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Learning to visit the imprisoned is a great lesson for children.  It is a great challenge to figure out what kind of small gift can be delivered, given the rules, and letting your kids creatively think this through, is useful knowledge.  Likewise, figuring out how you answer their questions about lock up and lock down and all, will be well remembered lessons about civic responsibility, about how the mighty can fall, and what sometimes happens no matter what the status of one’s letter writers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I encourage you to keep a close relationship with Mr. Scooter — and encourage your children to do likewise.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mary (and James)</p>
<p>I just wanted to assure you that your kids friend, Mr. Scooter, will be in a secure, but not secret location, and you can actually take them for visits.  He would probably appreciate the visits.  </p>
<p>Learning to visit the imprisoned is a great lesson for children.  It is a great challenge to figure out what kind of small gift can be delivered, given the rules, and letting your kids creatively think this through, is useful knowledge.  Likewise, figuring out how you answer their questions about lock up and lock down and all, will be well remembered lessons about civic responsibility, about how the mighty can fall, and what sometimes happens no matter what the status of one’s letter writers.  </p>
<p>I encourage you to keep a close relationship with Mr. Scooter — and encourage your children to do likewise.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741213</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Major sleep-in morning. Poor Scoots!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just read the letter from Alan Simpson regarding Scoots. I’m sorry, “a splendid human being” - Jesus Christ was a splendid human being (that part which was human); my third-grade teacher, Mrs Hackenberg, was a splendid human being …. not fucking Scooter Libby whose one attribute is “loyal soldier” taking the rap for one big Dick.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually what I was going to say was Libby looked shell-shocked and PISSED when he came out of the courthouse(?) building on MSNBC.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major sleep-in morning. Poor Scoots!</p>
<p>I just read the letter from Alan Simpson regarding Scoots. I’m sorry, “a splendid human being” &#8211; Jesus Christ was a splendid human being (that part which was human); my third-grade teacher, Mrs Hackenberg, was a splendid human being …. not fucking Scooter Libby whose one attribute is “loyal soldier” taking the rap for one big Dick.</p>
<p>Actually what I was going to say was Libby looked shell-shocked and PISSED when he came out of the courthouse(?) building on MSNBC.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Lib</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741201</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Lib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-740817&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 33&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Notice that Libby refused to admit guilt even in the sentencing phase where it is normal for the convicted criminal to show remorse- Walton clearly noticed that no remorse was being shown. Notice also that Libby’s attorney pronounced him innocent after the hearing. They’re tryin to make it easier for a pardon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought  I read somewhere that accepting a pardon itself necessitated an admission of guilt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-740817"><em>rwcole @ 33</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Notice that Libby refused to admit guilt even in the sentencing phase where it is normal for the convicted criminal to show remorse- Walton clearly noticed that no remorse was being shown. Notice also that Libby’s attorney pronounced him innocent after the hearing. They’re tryin to make it easier for a pardon.</p>
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<p>I thought  I read somewhere that accepting a pardon itself necessitated an admission of guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: spoon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741154</link>
		<dc:creator>spoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mmm….Beer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many fine places to choose from.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given the Spin Cycle…the place to watch might be 4th Estate at 17th and L…of which the FireDog should consider itself a member..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A wall of screens tuned to all the networks…and a pretty regular crowd of WaPo reporters/worker bees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and of course…mmmm…Beer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm….Beer.</p>
<p>Many fine places to choose from.</p>
<p>Given the Spin Cycle…the place to watch might be 4th Estate at 17th and L…of which the FireDog should consider itself a member..</p>
<p>A wall of screens tuned to all the networks…and a pretty regular crowd of WaPo reporters/worker bees.</p>
<p>and of course…mmmm…Beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741117</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-740980&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 170&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hillary better dump Carville immediamente.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t remember a Halloween scare, btw.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;interestingggggg&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i dont recall seeing it on olbermann’s false scares list last nite either&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-740980"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 170</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hillary better dump Carville immediamente.</p>
<p>I don’t remember a Halloween scare, btw.</p>
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<p>interestingggggg</p>
<p>i dont recall seeing it on olbermann’s false scares list last nite either</p>
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		<title>By: Sewmouse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741115</link>
		<dc:creator>Sewmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-740906&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 106&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“I have a universal love of families–the Hitler family- the mussolini family- the Jack the Ripper family- never met a family I didn’t like”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scoots&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ya left out the Manson Family and the Addams Family!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-740906"><em>rwcole @ 106</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“I have a universal love of families–the Hitler family- the mussolini family- the Jack the Ripper family- never met a family I didn’t like”</p>
<p>Scoots</p>
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<p>Ya left out the Manson Family and the Addams Family!</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Roget</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/05/libby-sentencing-eight/#comment-741110</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Roget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-740941&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 136&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-740935&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marie Roget @ 128&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I know a grammar school near the 9th Ward in NOLA that could use a guy like Irving Libby.  Playground or lunch monitor ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Guess he wouldn’t do as a playground snitch!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too true.&lt;br /&gt;
Same school could also use a Plant Manager.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I.L. Libby in khaki w/Scooter stenciled on the pocket, mop &amp; bucket in hand.  The very definition of community service IMO…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-740941"><em>raven @ 136</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-740935"><em>Marie Roget @ 128</em></a></p>
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<p>I know a grammar school near the 9th Ward in NOLA that could use a guy like Irving Libby.  Playground or lunch monitor ?</p>
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<p>  Guess he wouldn’t do as a playground snitch!</p>
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<p>Too true.<br />
Same school could also use a Plant Manager.  </p>
<p>I.L. Libby in khaki w/Scooter stenciled on the pocket, mop &amp; bucket in hand.  The very definition of community service IMO…</p>
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