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ReZedlican
” Shut up and Love it or leave it”
Hey hasn’t McCain been white longer than any of them?
Rudy sez money’s going to our enemies, for oil.
W’s friends the Kings won’t like that talk.
They’re all a bunch of stupid idiots who don’t really want to help the country. I can’t watch.
My Lord, look at these guys!
The Jack Bauer wannabe’s are back! Hide your children!
SnarKassandra @ 5
What the youngster says… ;})
Romney — it’s not the oil companies, it’s Russia, Chavez, and Ahmenidijad.
McCain wants him some nuclear power.
I don’t know how much more of this I can take.
TeddySanFran @ 9
Apparently Zeus is anti-abortion. :)
they are merely repeating, they never say anything
The real candidate isn’t on that stage.
Jane would it be possible to set up a blog/Vlog whatever one would call it ( I am bad with the terms) with a few of the hotshot lawyers here at FDL and 5-10…19-21 year old college students here at Ohio University, to discuss the Libby trial and sentence.
I have talked with a pack of them and they are very interested (along with my daughter Alana who posted a few questions today during the sentencing). The O.U. students are in the midst of finals but after Thursday they are interested in coming on as a group to ask questions.
I guess they could just jump on at any time, but they are interested in particular in the Libby issue and sentencing.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 15
Thompson just waits for them to all burn out and he steps in and scoops up all the marbles.
Which Republican candidate does this apply to?
He was born with no eyelids, but new ones were fashioned from the foreskin of his circumcision.
For this reason, his view is always cock-eyed.
ooooh, gays in the military question!!
Ron Paul sez the current policy is a decent policy
kathleen @ 16
What a great idea. I hope you can work that out.
Message from GOP to Freddie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW3AiUk9yQ
Glad I don’t have to pollute my mind with dat sheet.
All in all, a good day for us, a really bad day for them.
And this ain’t gonna help.
Beer o’clock is rapidly approaching on the Left Coast, I am going to go have a Fitzgeralds Hammer of Justice.
A toast;
To the Ladies of the Lake, all of them.
Oilfieldguy @ 18
Which Republican candidate does this apply to?
He was born with no eyelids, but new ones were fashioned from the foreskin of his circumcision.
For this reason, his view is always cock-eyed.
Lieberman’s running?
This is for punaise and any other firepups in need of a chuckle..)
For a little musical debate karma. Click here to listen to Robyn Hitchcock sing W Is The Anti Christ. *s*
Rudy — “this is not the time to deal with disruptive issues like this.”
time of war, new kind of warfare, hybrid army, nation-building, judgment of commanders
from the previous thread
Cassie,
what I was saying was
“I don’t want to hear that!”
You most certainly didn’t say anything wrong!
Twain @ 17
I would much rather see the Mrs. scoop up the marbles.
Romney — DADT working just fine
McCain — best troops ever, but not enough of ‘em.
yup, he said that.
Agreed Bustedknuckles, a toast to the Ladies of the Lake. cheers
Democracy Now always worth the hour!
Military judge throws out Guantanamo charges. How long were these people held in prison?
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…../05/149244
Can any of the lawyers tell me why Jefferson faces 235 years in prison, and Libby gets 30 months for obstructing a federal prosecutors investigation of the outing of a CIA undercover agent? How do you explain this?
How would you use GWBush in your administration?
TT: not send him to the United Nations, but send him to lecture America’s young people about honesty and integrity in public service.
okay, this guy’s high
Yes! George Bush should teach young people about honesty!!
Oilfieldguy @ 30
Prost! I’ll drink to that!!! ;-)
Brownback looks like he smells a bad smell.
JPL @ 20
Excellent thought. Sounds like what the Internet is all about!
KO on the case.
What is Giuliani doing to appeal to Repubs? He’s got that lisp and bad suits and baldness, but what’s really appealing to them?
Duncan Hunter sez Karl Rove told him not to darken the door of the WH again, back in 2003!! He would not have GWB help him out.
Dover Bitch @ 33
After Libby’s pardon maybe he can help.
Dover Bitch @ 33
You left out the best part; Integrity!!!
MarkH @ 38
Ya’ll should turn that crap off and dig Joe Wilson.
Joe Wilson on KO!
Nice beard!
TeddySanFran @ 29
He, along with Biden, believes that we should add 100,000 more permanent active duty forces to the military. Clinton and Obama are also in favor of increasing the number of permanent positions in the military, but I think they haven’t been specific about how many more.
Fidel appeared in public today he looked good on the Democracy Now clip. Damn that guy has been around a long time.
Joe Wilson with a beard! He wears it well!
My comcast cable doesn’t offer MSNBC, so updates would be appreciated.
Joe feels sorry for what Libby had done to the Libby family and the country.
raven @ 42
I’m not watching it. I’m just reading the comments here. Where’s Wilson on? He’s very cool.
MarkH @ 49
MSNBC
On a lighter note:
Republicans move to remove Jefferson.
Move under way to expel Jefferson from House
GOP lobbies Pelosi as indicted Democrat steps down from committee
Dems: This is war. Cut the funding. Go after Rove. Get Cheney.
Repugs..Don’t ask don’t tell seems to be working, no time for social experiment. Leave it up to commanders.
So, we’ve apparently got gays in military now, so how is allowing gays a social experiment? They’re already there. As for commanders,I guess they mean Chairman of Joint Chiefs Gen. Pace, who thinks teh gayness is immoral. Meanwhile, we’re losing translators left and right due to gayness. God help us.
Democrats. Pull out all stops.
KO
Not sure any of the folks (in the administration) have passed ethics 101.
What a bunch of marooons.
I will say this: Kudos to Huckabee for bringing up Katrina. Too bad the Democrats don’t want to talk about that.
Come on Repubs. Let’s rumble.
Joe “The civil case is a way to get the truth from Armitage, Cheney et al.
I’m at Olbermann.
TeddySanFran @ 39
I think that was Tancredo.
What are the rich white men saying about lawless brown people, promiscuous homosexuals and abortion lovin’ girlies who are undermining this great country of theirs?
…….I wish I had said that……
Kathleen @ 45
Presently the longest serving head of state.
Shorter Joe Wilson to Keith: I ain’t settin’ myself up by doing anything other than praising the judge for following the law…
raven @ 54
That was a hoot!!!
This debate would be more entertaining and enlightening if they were all dressed in clown costumes and squirted each other with seltzer water.
Hey, can we do some kind of hostage or extradition trade thingie?
Abu for Jefferson.
I am ready to stomp some GOP ass.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 66
I bet the dems you been killin lately are glad!
emptywheel’s post at tnh
Libby’s Turnaround
do-si-do @ 65
Thomas?
ok kiddo
you’re strong, hang in there……….
a friend of mine, despite my objections, and yes, they were well stated, has gone to join kbr enterprises in iraq, for the job……..jobs are hard to find here, so he will be on a base 30 miles south of karbala………despite my protests…….many………it totally sucks, ok kiddo. thought i was at my end with it all, and a friend joins in, and is shipping out, because he can’t find a job here in ohio……….my heart is sick, and i keep thinkin, what didn’t i tell him to keep him from doing it?
iamsopissed
We democratic white men, descended from those dreadful people who weote the constititution & declaration of independence can find Jane’s constant racisim and sexism offensive. I prefer Jefferson to Alberto, Marshall to Scalia.
yellowdogD @ 61
I have vague recollections of Batiste but that’s about it. But I know there’s a whole lot of folks wish the Washington Senators had offered a contract to a young left handed pitcher in the mid-forties…
Re debate: no one wanted to change don’t ask, don’t tell.
3 said God had a hand in creation, but don’t know how or when. One said he didn’t know cause he wasn’t there.
McCain said such issues should be decided at local level wrt to what’s taught in schools.
I’m getting my threads mixed up, but just wanted to point out that Bolton wins the prize for name in biggest type font on the Libby love letters.
Anybody know the Guinness world record for the most lies told by 10 old white men in one evening?
Scarecrow @ 73
Which explains why r kidz is failing…
HOWZA ‘BOUT WE ASK ‘EM
about the vice president we
already elected, and his
press release, tonight — ON
OUR GODDAMN (taxpayers’) DIME:
FDL folks:
i CANNOT STAND THIS ANY LONGER!
dick cheney, in an OFFICIAL white
house press release, on the tax-
payer-funded-government web site,
just put out a statement of deep
repsect and support for the CONVICT!
join me in making a scream about this,
please — CHENEY swore to uphold the
law last in january 2005.
really. i am crazed! WTF!?
raven @ 69
OK! sign here.
Democrats in Congress. We are your base. Don’t try and make us carry all the water.
Boy ….can Candy (hamburger helper) Crowley be more up the ass of John McCain?….You’d think Saint McCain was revealing incredibly intelligent commentary…
dmac @ 70
;0)!
dmac @ 70
I’m with you. A kid that I’ve known since he was born graduated from college and joined the Army to be a Green Beret. It’s a total bullshit recruiting tool, almost no one actually makes it from basic, ait, jump school to SF. So now he’s in Anbar province for 15 months. I’m sending jerky and Spin magazine and trying to figure out how to be a support to his folks, my friends. pissed indeed
dmac @ 70
You know, that is a damn good thing to bring up. Our country is setting us up to only be able to make a decent living if we participate in “their” businesses or industries, even if it means risking our lives. I’d rather be a pauper than to work in a situation that enables them to take over the world by using people as slaves.
Looking at Olbermann. Kissinger is a monster.
OT – Schlozman’s Inadvertent Confession: Any Group That Works With Minorities Is ‘Liberal’
Lawrence O’Donnell asking how appropriate it is for people in the intelligence community to write the letters of support. When are they going to write letters for the Marines who made split second decisions.
He ripped these pigs a new one!
Lawrence O’Donnell on KO: The whole Libby defense has been set-up to drive a pardon…
Virt @ 64
If there are any other “Project Runway” addicts here–remember when they all had to dress up in figure-skating costumes and take a skating lesson? (preparatory to an assignment to design costumes . . . ?) A peak moment; the only way it could have been better would be if all the designers could have been replaced w/2008 GOP presidential honkeys, I mean uh candidates.
OfT, FWIW: Lawrence O’Donnell on Olbermann is just blowing up everyone who wrote Judge Walton asking for leniency for Irving.
Ghouliani want to provide an “orderly existence” for the Iraqis…translation: Police State Ghouliani time!!! Just try it Ghouliani and see how far you get with the Iraqis or us.
nolo @ 77
I’m actually not surprised at all, nolo.
and thanks for all the stuff you put up over at your website!
Thank you to all the selfless souls who are braving the sh*t storm to watch the Rethugs “debate”…
dakine01 @ 92
And missing a great KO!
Whaddaya expect from darth Cheney…criminals always defend their own kind
TeddySanFran @ 32
Head of FEMA
Don’t tell me that Kissinger doesn’t have input.
DrenchedOtter @ 44
Of course, once we get out of Iraq we won’t need extra troops, but that requires a little forward thinking, something that seems beyond most politicians.
Actually, scratch that.. Head of the Air National Guard
Blub @ 95
11B20, Infantry.
Golly, this debate reminds me of a joke:
Herr Goldstein is sitting with his secretary at a cafe in 1937 Berlin when his secretary notices he’s reading a Nazi propaganda newspaper. Aghast, she asks her boss if he’s a self-hating Jew. He responds that he used to read the Jewish papers which talked of pogroms and a future war, but now, through the Nazi papers, he was discovering that Jews controlled the media and the banking and we’re trying to take over the world and this made him feel much better about himself.
Ghouliani just called the Dems healthcare proposals…”SOCIALIZED MEDICINE” …he is a discusting troll
Oklahoma kiddo @ 84
Kissinger has always been a monster, albeit a fairly incoherent and rambling one with a bad accent.
Rudy arguing for Libby pardon during the debate.
raven @ 99
I second that emotion!
Elliott @ 104
no live ammo though
Oklahoma kiddo @ 84
I watched a documentary about the holocaust last night. Kissinger was interviewed and was very hedgy and resentful of any questioning about his experiences related to it. He left Germany at 15 in 1938. He refuses to talk about it basically. His anger (rightfully so) at the unspeakable activities of the Nazis seems so internalized that he has almost enabled this country to support policies that allow violent acts towards others via working through our government over the years. It is very strange and very frightening. It is almost like Stockholm syndrome. I am afraid he remains the Godfather of American policy. In his letter re: Libby, he refers to all the meetings he had with the VP. Creeps me out.
Guiliani should be President. We need a President who’s flexible enough to take on all the wonderful rethug ideals he’s told to believe in. That’s what we need in a leader.
raven @ 99
Ground pounder, IED specialist
raven @ 93
Olbermann will be on again later tonight thank goodness.
raven @ 99
Yep. That’s the right MOS.
raven @ 99
Right on!!! Straight to Iraq!!! I would quibble over the ‘20′, it should be 11B10!!! :-O
raven @ 105
no flak jacket neither!
LS @ 106
Want to seeth some more
Kissinger on Iraq and Vietnam
Were you trying to be funny?
Please apologize to Jane.
Elliott @ 111
No HMMW or Stryker, straight leg only!!!
MarkH @ 38
His aftershave… Blood, WTC dust, and just a hint of old-growth forests burning.
Huckabee talking about Islamic jihadists strapping bombs to their children and sending them into crowded markets.
What we’ve got is a bunch of Nixon retreads running the country.
Huckabee on morality – we value every life… (oooh, he’s talking about fetuses, not towel heads;) It’s wonderful how he sees no discrepancy between valuing life and hunting ter’rists down.
Hugh @ 102
Anybody else remember when there were actually people who wanted to amend the Constitution so that Hank the K could run for Preznit? And now they want to do it for Ahnald…Dumbfounding to say the least…
I hate to say it, but it sounds to me like the Republicans have more constructive things to say about health care than the Democrats did the other night.
Giuliani says do something with the tax code, Thompson says manage disease better, Romney says make everyone get private insurance. Compare that to Edwards’ plan, which I think is vague, Obama’s plan which is partial at best, and Clinton who hasn’t even announced what she would do.
teeboy @ 119
Oh but gawwwwd made all of us.
Giuliani says moral authority comes from god.
Religion is not the answer to a question. It is a question.
Ron Paul sez the most pressing moral issue in America today is the doctrine of pre-emptive war.
raven @ 112
He’s still calling the shots for sure. Thanks for the link. The wording is what appears throughout W’s speeches.
Jane: That pic looks like the opening for “The Apprentice”. No connection to Libby, of course.
Come on Democrats in Washington. We’re leading the charge. A little help wouldn’t hurt.
Republican Party is Party of Life.
Unless you are an Iraqi.
or
Live in New Orleans
dakine01 @ 87
If Libby walks next week during the appeal process, what was this long, involved and expensive process about? What is the clear message to our young people. Positon, money do matter when it comes to justice (now I know this) but to have this confirmed once again is just too much at this time.
Judge Walton please enforce the law put Libby in jail next week. Send a strong and clear message to our nation to our youth, that “truth is the engine of our judicial system”
Rebublicans got morals up their wazoo. Ooooh, Wolfie – did you just suggest that Guiliana is completly lacking in morals? I wonder if the ghoul will let that go (probably, it’s the pragmatic thing to do)
At the risk of being brash, I’m going to make an early call as to the biggest winner of the night.
Huckabee has probably gained the most out of tonight. He’s personable, he’s obviously the most gifted speaker among the major candidates, and he’s done a good job of defining himself. In my opinion, he’s by far the most dangerous opponent we could face in the general election, but I just don’t know if he’s going to gain enough traction by the end of the current quarter to make himself viable for the early primary contests.
That being said, I just can’t make up my mind as to who’s the biggest loser. This debate has been laughable for most of the night, and it’s hard to believe that any of these men could possibly run this country.
mitt romney is so good looking, i want to become a legal immigrant so he can love me. don’t tell the wife.
Clayton J. @ 130
A Repub audience member basically pointed out to Romney that he has said he wants the official language to be English, and the questioner then asked him why his ads are in Spanish. Boy, did he squirm in his chair..
Off Topic:
Today is World Environment day in the rest of the world outside the US, but YouthINKLeft is celebrating. Here’s my post.
tancredo should have shown up in overalls driving a pick-up with a gun rack.
Elliott @ 91
thanks — but c’mon! — this is
a .gov site — that means we are
paying for the sitting vice president
to declare that “what happened” to
scooter (note the lack of first-
person responsibility) was a “tragedy“. . .
i guess i missed the part where
committing crimes “happens” to
someone — and it is a “tragedy”
for them. . .
we need heat not light — lightning
not thunder — in the words of sir
frederick douglass. . . this is not
one we should patiently accept.
the man stone-cold obstructed justice
to protect the vice president — now
the vice president tries to influence
the appeals — and hint for a pardon?
again — WTF!? — i need to go lie down.
thanks for indulging me, elliot. . .
BillO vs Cheney vs Beck for WPITW honors..coming up…
Nolo 135. I agree wholeheartedly with you.
McCain is feasting on corrupt Repubs..munch, munch, munch…
DrenchedOtter @ 121
private insurance? Romney? Bwwwwwwwahhhhhhh
keep dreaming dude.
John Casper @ 114
nope
I find the racial, cultural and sexual hatred of those who were the founders most off-putting, and saddening, among people with whom I agree entirely on such things as the Gonzalas matter.
Mmmmmmm, about to eat a Trader Giotto’s 3-cheese pizza – you know, he’s a legal immigrant.
SnarKassandra @ 134
What a great post and a good use of OT, I might add.
Q for all:”what was Bush’s biggest mistake?”
ccmask @ 139
Hey, he did it in Massachusetts. Maybe it wouldn’t work on a national scale, I don’t know, but I think it’s a serious proposal. I just wish I heard something specific and tangible from the Democrats that I could compare it with.
solai @ 144
Answer: “he became a liberal”
(honest …. that’s what was said)
A little help here, I came alittle late.
Any mewntion of the Libby Verdict to the *ahem* candidates?
McCain on the tipping point in ‘08 elections: “the bridge to nowhere”
Is that a worse omen for the future of John McCain or Ted Stevens? jeezus
solai @ 144
Not eating more pretzels.
Just went to the debate, has Wolf asked the candidates to raise their hands on questions as he did with the Democratic candidates. He must have done this at least 4 times.
Ghouliani wants to establish accountability in Washington – LOL
Romney wants to reinflate Reagan
Brownback wants to cure cancer
Thompson – healthcare, Iraq, Dems bad.
Tancredo – Bush is a liberal.
Paul – Bush changed his tune and didn’t do what he said he would.
Gilmore – Bush deviated from principal.
Hunter T –
Huckabee – Lack of communication to help us know what problems are and how to solve them.
All these are answers to what was Bush’s biggest mistake.
kathleen @ 149
I think it makes them look like a bunch of third graders asking to go to the restroom.
oddball @ 147
Yes, they were all falling over themselves to say Libby should be pardoned and is the victim of an overzealous prosecutor.
Bronze to BillO for blasting NYTimes for JFK story not on front page. Though it was
Cheney silver for Iraq/al qaeda link to wyoming HS students
Beck WPITW for wondering why Kucinich’s wife married him…
Is it just me, or does nothing that Jim Gilmore says make any sense? I swear, the man takes sixty seconds and covers energy independence, his grandpa, border security, geese, cold medicine, and designer shoes. He rambles worse than any major candidate in either party.
Those Republicans doing the debate tonight. You’re going to lose big. Ain’t that a shame. From NOLA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
DrenchedOtter @ 145
Hillary had her ass kicked in 93/94 when they realized that she was serious about changing the health care system. You can bet this is the first thing Hillary would do!
oddball @ 146
They were asked about pardon; several said it’s premature; have to read the “transcript,” check the guidelines. But Romney restrated the BS about improper prosecution, no underlying crime, someone else leaked, etc. Duncan Hunter wants to pardon the two border agents convicted of murder; Rudy say sentence was grossly out of line for al the reasons Romney gave. And Tancredo just said “yes” (he would pardon).
LS @ 137
she really is right
but I’m still not surprised
I think the CNN.com headline for the debate just about summed it up:
“Candidates examine GOP shortcomings”
Shortcomings. Yep.
Wish List – Tancredo saying ‘we should line up anyone illegally crossing the border and shoot him.” Actually, his open xenophobia actually makes him one of the more honest people out there.
Why stop at a double Gitmo. Why, this is America! If we apply ourselves, we can have the biggest and best network of prison camps that history has ever seen! And we can get people to turn their neighbors over to be processed.
I didn’t know this, but, Neil Young’s come out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_McxwuX9Wbs
Is this possibly a rally anthem?
Oh, this has been out a while . . thought it was new . . still . . .
I LOVE Neil, just don’t listen to him much anymore or keep up with him.
I’m a Loser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KynpC1e9I9E
LindaR @ 153
I would say….NoShit?
But I guess I kinda expected that.
New bumper sticker:
Vote Republican. We’re OK. OK with cronyism, perjury, obstruction, basically we’re OK with screwing everything up!
DrenchedOtter @ 145
Can you name one thing that Bush has done for the people of this country since he has been in office? Just one thing! Shouldn’t be too hard.
His buddies up there will be just like him.
They are embracing Joe Biden’s idea of partioning Iraq into three (sunni, shia, kurd) parts like it was their idea without crediting Biden. Otherwise its stay the course praying someday the Iraqis will stand up and enforce the rule of law so the american soldiers can stand down. None of the above will work. They have no plan to end the war either. Ha, ha, the immagration issue is killing them.
They were asked about pardon; several said it’s premature; have to read the “transcript,” check the guidelines. But Romney restrated the BS about improper prosecution, no underlying crime, someone else leaked, etc. Duncan Hunter wants to pardon the two border agents convicted of murder; Rudy say sentence was grossly out of line for al the reasons Romney gave. And Tancredo just said “yes” (he would pardon).
Now we see that the utter contempt for the rule of law that exists under the Bush administration would continue under any Republican successor.
huh? is anyone even watching these clowns?
Twain @ 152
———————————–
NOT ONE hand raising question…Blitzer is a ReTHUGlican operative….100%
isnt there basketball or hockey on somewhere?
TeddySanFran @ 39
Was that Hunter or Tancredo?
Ghouliani said he thinks Scooters sentence is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOsevere….LOSAHS
Mark B. in Austin TX @ 166
Actually, I thought it was interesting that only Guiliani and Romney tried to demogogue on this. Tan Credo just said no, but all the others took a duck — suggests that even this crowd is not anxious to embrace a convicted felon.
Franco @ 167
Absolutely. The other day, Wolf bragged to McCaffrey that he had been to Cheney’s home. How blatant is that.
isnt there basketball or hockey on somewhere?
Spurs v. Cavs doesn’t start til Thursday.
Franco @ 168
Correct me if I’m wrong, I think it is because McCain can’t raise his arms due to war injury?
Duncan Hunter just called Saint McCain and Romney the party of Ted Kennedy….
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhahhaa
oddball @ 164
are you shittin’ me? they all said he should be pardoned? for betraying the identity of a CIA agent during a war? isnt that treason?
solai @ 171
Tancredo
No, there was ONE handraising question: Who would allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in the armed services.
Not one hand went up. Proof that none of them has the courage or integrity to be President of the United States.
solai @ 170
Tancredo. He said he’d say the same thing to Bush.
Absolutely. The other day, Wolf bragged to McCaffrey that he had been to Cheney’s home. How blatant is that.
Oooh!!! Did he say that he saw ‘the family jewels’?
LindaR @ 153
Ed Meese was right, many years ago, when he said that there’s a criminal lobby in this country. He meant the ACLU, but it turned out to be the Republican Party.
ccmask @ 164
I agree that Bush hasn’t done anything for health care, but he isn’t running in 2008. It seems to me these guys are being more specific and sincere about what they would do about health care than the Democrats.
I was in the kitchen a few minutes ago during WPITW, but I could have sworn I heard Keith say “Republican Rep. Dennis Kucinich” — was I hearing things?
Mark B. in Austin TX @ 180
He probably went because of the family jewels
Franco @ 168
Was talking about the Dem debate.
Mark B. in Austin TX @ 179
Ewwwww
Mark B. in Austin TX @ 167
I think they believe that’s a good selling point and it may be for a wingnut primary, but I’m pretty sure they’ll discover that that 65 percent of Americans against the war would also be against going around the rules in the same way that led us to Iraq. I wonder how quickly some of these rethugs will be backtracking from their positions?
allan_in_upstate at 181 — so true.
Please keep in mind that we have a lot of good Democratic candidates for president. And that the main thing to do is get rid of the Republicans in 2008. ;0)
rudy wants health insurance like car and home. My god don’t elect another fool! You can’t make a claim on either they dont pay when you do and they cancel you at will. They are all crazy
TiredFed @ 167
Hey, tell us about your day!
LoudounLib @ 184
No he was naming Glenn Beck WPITW for trying to claim that Kucinich musta given his wife roofie’s to get her to go to bed with him before they married.
MarkB, I mentioned Austin in the post I just did. It’s my example of solar power.
If Republics are going to preach about behavior and morality, their own behavior their family members’ behavior must be examined in light of that preaching.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 189
I hope you’re right and I know that we will work towards that. Watching the debate was painful.
Hello Gulianni and McCain terroism and enemies have grown during your Republican watch.
How can we forget that 9/11 happenned under their watch?
How far in debt is this nation under the Republican watch.
John King says the GOPers were “much more polite” than the Dems the other nite.
I hope someone asks Tancredo more about that little Rove/Bush “don’t darken my doorway” story.
If anyone asks, I’ll be amazed.
LS @ 163
I’ve never seen that clip! What a GREAT version of a great song of theirs!
Man, great audio and video, wish I could have seen George’s git hands a bit more . . . I went to the next clip on the right, ran the table.
I’m missing John and George and all that music a lot all of a sudden.
Thanks for sharing that . . . it was real precous . . .
Badwater @ 195
Sounds good, but better not make it a drinking game.
Eli has a new post and I just got the zed!!!
I lived in NY during the Ghouliani fascist regime….I know we are not supposed to use the word fascist…BUT….let me tell you…Ghouliani had rules in mid-town about HOW you could cross certain STREETS….for instance if you were walking cross-town towards the east side on 51st street.,..you had to cross on opposite sides of the street as you passed each avenue..it made NO sense…but Ghouliani said it would help traffic control…that is according to BernaRD(felon) kERIK…no one got it and they gAVE OUT 200 DOLLAR TICKETS if YOU DIDN’T FOLLOW THEIR RULE…NEVER MIND ALL THE RACIST KILLINGS DONE WIHTH THE gHOULIANI BLESSINGS TOWARDFS PEOPLKE OF COLOR…
dakine01 @ 192
I did hear that, but I’m pretty sure Keith goofed and referred to Kucinich as a Republic — that would be a rare slip for KO!
Jane you rock. Thanks for helping get Scooter!
and i am still alone up there even after i read the post!
kathleen @ 195
That needs to be repeated over and over.
9/11 happened on their watch.
Terrorism has multiplied exponentially due to their policies.
Republicans solve everything with force.
Under Republican rule, terrorism was mishandled and created increased terrorism and danger to the world.
TeddySanFran @ 197
WTF!
FYI, new thread
Man, am I glad this thing is winding down. I’m not quite sure why I forced myself through the entire thing, but here’s my take anyway.
Like I wrote earlier, Huckabee is probably the biggest winner of the evening. He’s poised, he’s likable, and he’s done the best job of making himself stand apart from the rest of the candidates. He’s also the winner of the ribbon for looking the most “presidential.”
I’m inclined to say that Jim Gilmore is the biggest loser of the night, but it’s hard to say that when he had absolutely nothing to lose coming into this. He rambled incoherently all night long, and at some points, I actually kind of found myself wondering whether or not the guy might be a little nuts. It’s good to know that the people of Virginia have elected two excellent governors since his term in office.
Gilmore aside, McCain took the most abuse from his fellows on stage. There were a lot of not so nice things said about the Kennedy/McCain immigration bill, and his sound bite-laden answers on national security and health care were boring, cliched, and obviously not winning any applause from the audience.
Huckabee is possibly the only capable man among the bunch, but it’s a snowball’s chance in hell that he’ll win the nomination when all is said and done.
larue @ 198
:)
Y’know, DO, you might want to take a look at the Democrats’ websites to check out their healthcare plans. I’ll agree with you that this debate format doesn’t reveal much about the plans, but Edwards (at least) has a pretty comprehensive plan and has been courageous about how he’ll pay for it.
Will Americans be swayed by the Repub bullshit?
They used fear…fear….fear…will this work? I don’t think so. Fear is all they have!
Will Pubs be able to fool, spin, lie what has taken place the last six years. 9/11, Lies about WMD’s, invasion of a country that did not attack us, millions dead, 50,ooo american soldiers injured, illegal wire taping programs, hundreds of signing statements, more classified documents than any other administration, record breaking oil profits, a minimum wage not touched in 8 years, Katrina, tax cuts for the rich, the outing of an undercover agent, etc etc.
Cam americans really forget what has taken place the last six years.. can Pubs spin all of the facts into a quagmire like they have in Iraq.
I expect I’m in the minority here, but it seems to me Romney and Giuliani did better tonight than any of the Democrats did in their debate. They appeared calm, in control, and showed that they had thought through their positions, whether you agreed with them or not. I think McCain looked old and that his time had passed, I don’t think he’s a viable candidate.
In contrast, I think Clinton looked scripted, Edwards looked fake, and Obama looked inexperienced.
I hope Gore gets in the race soon. Otherwise I think we’re in for a landslide Republican victory in 2008.
all of this “thank you for your dead family members service”, hogwash. Service for what? Service for lies. Cindy Sheehan has faced the truth, her son died for nothing for lies for the Bush administrations lies.
TeddySanFran @ 212
I did read Edwards’ plan, and I give him credit for being the first and best of the Democrats to come out with a strategy. Still, in my humble opinion, I think he’s being a bit vague about how it’s all going to work.
Clayton J. @ 131
The Goper field is so weak, we could almost run Al Sharpton against the entire bunch and still get a landslide.
Genus: Scooter……Species:
Loser – Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN3PGqDRNg
dakine01 @ 154
I have no doubt about why she married him. $$
Subway Serenade @ 217
But I bet that all y’all said BUSH couldn’t either, right? Americans are stupid sometimes.
DrenchedOtter @ 213
Romney and Giuliani are polished politicians, and that was obvious throughout the debate. I’m not going to go so far as to agree that they performed better than any democrat did Sunday evening, but they were on par with most of the democratic participants.
On the whole, I do think the democratic debate was a lot more substantial than the one we witnessed this evening. If we could have excluded Kucinich and Gravel, neither of whom said anything insightful or constructive, then there’d be absolutely no question.
did the debate mention libby or pardons or gonzo?
SnarKassandra @ 222
Yes Kassandra, they were all falling over themselves saying Libby was getting a raw deal and ought to be freed on appeal or pardoned, one of the more repulsive parts of the evening.
DrenchedOtter @ 223
BLECH!!!! Definitely glad i spent the time on my blog instead!
Wow I knew it would be ….interesting but that they all bandwangoned on the convict ON CAMERA!?!?!
They really are living in their own zipcode of wonderland aren’t they.
Kodus to those souls who nore it out and i’d love to get a transcript (I’d like to get one on the dems as well if anyone knows where one is posted)
Elliott @ 159
thank you both. . . i am
less surprised than outraged. . .
i can expect it from shooter
cheney, and still be outraged
that my taxpayer funds must
pay for it, right?!
damn skippy!
The Republicans could certainly use someone like Reagan on the stage…lord knows they need more Rons.
darkblack @ 116
Your name foretells your dark humor. Shades of Ronnie Raygun’s “The bombs will start falling in 5 minutes”
Giuliani (maybe): “I love the smell of asbestos in the morning.”
Hugh @ 149
Holding back, showing too much restraint, not being true to his barbarian nature.
When each one of these guys started talking about how the free market system can fix health care, it was clear that not a single one has a clue about how the people in country are doing. People with high incomes and good health insurance are one catastrophic illness away from trouble. I volunteer at a local hospital and I have seen people with million dollar homes and professional careers loose nearly everything when one spouse has to quite a job to be a caregiver and life time insurance limits are used up. They have no idea how the insurance industry works. The working poor are wiped out quickly. The better off are wiped out within a couple of years when long term crisis hits. Anyone with so limited knowledge and so little compassion does not deserve to be President.