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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-740121</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The news of Steve Gilliard’s death was, to put it mildly, pretty stunning.  Even though he’d had health issues for a number of years, it was still a blow when he passed over to the other side, and away at last from pain’s grip&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a blow.&lt;br /&gt;
Hope is the best tool we have in our arsenal. I don’t think civil rights workers had much else back in the day. So in honor of them and Steven Gilliard and anyone who fought the good fight, we owe them a debt of gratitude.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>This is a blow.<br />
Hope is the best tool we have in our arsenal. I don’t think civil rights workers had much else back in the day. So in honor of them and Steven Gilliard and anyone who fought the good fight, we owe them a debt of gratitude.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowdog jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-739666</link>
		<dc:creator>yellowdog jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this is the kind of stuff i used to think all had to be crackpots:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wpbf.com/news/13383827/detail.html&quot;&gt;Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
 but now this twenty-first century is turning out to be more and more your futuristic science fiction, so who knows?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you make the call.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the kind of stuff i used to think all had to be crackpots:<br />
<a href="http://www.wpbf.com/news/13383827/detail.html">Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire</a>,<br />
 but now this twenty-first century is turning out to be more and more your futuristic science fiction, so who knows?</p>
<p>you make the call.</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-739118</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738752&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; . . . . . Halliburton and its ilk will be Dinosaurs in less than 50 years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We don’t HAVE 50 years. In less than 5 years, they will have a death grip on us forever, if they already don’t have one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738752"><em>Petrocelli @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> . . . . . Halliburton and its ilk will be Dinosaurs in less than 50 years.</p>
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<p>We don’t HAVE 50 years. In less than 5 years, they will have a death grip on us forever, if they already don’t have one.</p>
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		<title>By: PLovering</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-739076</link>
		<dc:creator>PLovering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738873&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 157&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738776&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PLovering @ 127&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A little more science to be cheerful about:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever the cause of homosexuality, be it genetic, hormonal, or even sociological, the result is a change somewhere in the brain. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This change is physical and permanent, prayer to the contrary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This generalization is too sweeping. It may be true for some, perhaps many, but I am very much in doubt that it is the case for all. I noticed that you make the claim as a bald assertion with no link to supporting evidence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think it is a good thing when people fall in love with, and make a commitment to care for, each other– no matter what their size, shape, or polarity is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This research applies to homosexual men only,  not lesbians.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are interesting correlations between gay men and straight women, and their common attractions for the male sex.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738873"><em>Bob Schacht @ 157</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-738776"><em>PLovering @ 127</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A little more science to be cheerful about:</p>
<p>Whatever the cause of homosexuality, be it genetic, hormonal, or even sociological, the result is a change somewhere in the brain. </p>
<p>This change is physical and permanent, prayer to the contrary.</p>
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<p>This generalization is too sweeping. It may be true for some, perhaps many, but I am very much in doubt that it is the case for all. I noticed that you make the claim as a bald assertion with no link to supporting evidence.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it is a good thing when people fall in love with, and make a commitment to care for, each other– no matter what their size, shape, or polarity is.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>This research applies to homosexual men only,  not lesbians.  </p>
<p>There are interesting correlations between gay men and straight women, and their common attractions for the male sex.</p>
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		<title>By: PLovering</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-739025</link>
		<dc:creator>PLovering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738790&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 138&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738776&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PLovering @ 127&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A little more science to be cheerful about:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever the cause of homosexuality, be it genetic, hormonal, or even sociological, the result is a change somewhere in the brain. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This change is physical and permanent, prayer to the contrary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You want to back this up with a scientific link?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Discovery Magazine, June 2007: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Born Gay”  by Michael Abrams&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738790"><em>Eureka Springs @ 138</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-738776"><em>PLovering @ 127</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A little more science to be cheerful about:</p>
<p>Whatever the cause of homosexuality, be it genetic, hormonal, or even sociological, the result is a change somewhere in the brain. </p>
<p>This change is physical and permanent, prayer to the contrary.</p>
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<p>You want to back this up with a scientific link?</p>
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<p>Discovery Magazine, June 2007: </p>
<p>“Born Gay”  by Michael Abrams</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-739021</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738663&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 34&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738651&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 23&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pelosi better get in front of this Dollar Bill Jefferson thing — and FAST.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;amen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just saw &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3242551&amp;page=1&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Democrats in Congress have lost much of the leadership edge they carried out of the 2006 midterm election, with the lack of progress in Iraq being the leading cause. Their only solace: President Bush and the Republicans aren’t doing any better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Six weeks ago the Democrats held a 24-point lead over Bush as the stronger leadership force in Washington; today that’s collapsed to a dead heat. The Democrats’ overall job approval rating likewise has dropped, from a 54 percent majority to 44 percent now — with the decline occurring almost exclusively among strong opponents of the Iraq War. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ok, i’m going to put myself in the corner now - for not playing nice and cheerful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phreakin surrender monkey jive party.&lt;br /&gt;
Squandered it all, like a grasshopper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No matter how Iraq goes, at this rate, Pub’s WILL hang it on the Dem’s. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone call me when Pelosi punches BoyKing, THAT will get my attention . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738663"><em>selise @ 34</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-738651"><em>TeddySanFran @ 23</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Pelosi better get in front of this Dollar Bill Jefferson thing — and FAST.</p>
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<p>amen.</p>
<p>just saw <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3242551&amp;page=1">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Democrats in Congress have lost much of the leadership edge they carried out of the 2006 midterm election, with the lack of progress in Iraq being the leading cause. Their only solace: President Bush and the Republicans aren’t doing any better.</p>
<p>Six weeks ago the Democrats held a 24-point lead over Bush as the stronger leadership force in Washington; today that’s collapsed to a dead heat. The Democrats’ overall job approval rating likewise has dropped, from a 54 percent majority to 44 percent now — with the decline occurring almost exclusively among strong opponents of the Iraq War. </p>
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<p>ok, i’m going to put myself in the corner now &#8211; for not playing nice and cheerful.</p>
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<p>Phreakin surrender monkey jive party.<br />
Squandered it all, like a grasshopper.</p>
<p>No matter how Iraq goes, at this rate, Pub’s WILL hang it on the Dem’s. </p>
<p>Someone call me when Pelosi punches BoyKing, THAT will get my attention . . .</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-738997</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738646&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 19&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yet another reason for cheer: the government of Laos is apparently safe from Californians &lt;a href=&quot;http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/04/BAG8DQ7CO16.DTL&quot;&gt;plotting to overthrow&lt;/a&gt; it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is tough for me, don’t know enuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I live in Vientienne as a youngster. My pops helped COUNTLESS Hmong get out from the Pathet Lao massacre’s.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder what this is all about . . . more proof, yer past never leaves ya . . . . . sigh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738646"><em>TeddySanFran @ 19</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Yet another reason for cheer: the government of Laos is apparently safe from Californians <a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/04/BAG8DQ7CO16.DTL">plotting to overthrow</a> it.</p>
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<p>This is tough for me, don’t know enuff.</p>
<p>I live in Vientienne as a youngster. My pops helped COUNTLESS Hmong get out from the Pathet Lao massacre’s.  </p>
<p>Wonder what this is all about . . . more proof, yer past never leaves ya . . . . . sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-738984</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738635&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738631&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 10&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; . . . . As Christy was saying this morning, it’s a marathon not a sprint.  Although in this case, it is an ultra-marathon.  Maybe like the Run to the Sun?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, long race to run. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it’s SO terribly hard to feel good if it’s not resolved during our time in the flesh, though. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Danged difficult to accept, THAT one is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Always hard to accept this thing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No matter HOW much we study history, or read, or have info from millineum to millineum . . . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We still want to get it done in OUR lifetime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I never dreamt, post Nixon, it could possibly get worse. Despite all the sci-fi and all the non-fictioin and truth presented, I never really believed Big Brother could beat us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, I fight myself to accept that it’s a long term battle, just like in every sci-fi book or historical narrative ever created, posits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Generation after generation upon one another. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dependent on the predecessor to leave SOMETHING to believe in, something to fight for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, at 54, time to quit whining, and figger out what to leave, I guess. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I still got an edge, and some music, maybe they will suffice for my contribution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738635"><em>dakine01 @ 12</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-738631"><em>jayt @ 10</em></a> . . . . As Christy was saying this morning, it’s a marathon not a sprint.  Although in this case, it is an ultra-marathon.  Maybe like the Run to the Sun?</p>
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<p>Yes, long race to run. </p>
<p>But it’s SO terribly hard to feel good if it’s not resolved during our time in the flesh, though. </p>
<p>Danged difficult to accept, THAT one is.</p>
<p>Always hard to accept this thing. </p>
<p>No matter HOW much we study history, or read, or have info from millineum to millineum . . . </p>
<p>We still want to get it done in OUR lifetime.</p>
<p>I never dreamt, post Nixon, it could possibly get worse. Despite all the sci-fi and all the non-fictioin and truth presented, I never really believed Big Brother could beat us.</p>
<p>Now, I fight myself to accept that it’s a long term battle, just like in every sci-fi book or historical narrative ever created, posits.</p>
<p>Generation after generation upon one another. </p>
<p>Dependent on the predecessor to leave SOMETHING to believe in, something to fight for.</p>
<p>So, at 54, time to quit whining, and figger out what to leave, I guess. </p>
<p>I still got an edge, and some music, maybe they will suffice for my contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/reasons-to-be-cheerful/#comment-738936</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-738787&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steve T. @ 136&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Petro: Enjoy your dinner. I would like to get links to those articles when you have some free time. I’m not a chemist, but on Wednesday I’m going to visit family in California, and my dad &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a chemist. Retired organic research chemist for Standard Oil, no less. Might be interesting to discuss this with him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had read some information a while back from BMW &amp; other European companies regarding Hydrogen powered vehicles, where they say safety exceeds gas tanks of today. Perhaps you can google “safe hydrogen” and follow the links. Greencarcongress and physorg have a lot of information … enjoy the hunt.&lt;br /&gt;
Plug- in hybrids will be the next step, for 25 cents of electricity, your car will run for 40 miles. Fuel Cells are also promising. Honda is running tests with units installed in homes that will create energy from natural gas for fuel cell vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
What is most needed is an administration that is not in the pocket of the oil and coal industries.&lt;br /&gt;
My feeling is, when Gore is anointed President, he will create a program similar to the Apollo Space program and kick- start the shift to renewable energy. But they can install enough windmills and solar panels to offset a large percentage of carbon emissions … and they have not begun to tap the vast potential of conservation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
… I’m even more long winded when it comes to the promise of Stem Cells …&lt;/em&gt; &lt;b&gt;*g*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-738787"><em>Steve T. @ 136</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Petro: Enjoy your dinner. I would like to get links to those articles when you have some free time. I’m not a chemist, but on Wednesday I’m going to visit family in California, and my dad <em>is</em> a chemist. Retired organic research chemist for Standard Oil, no less. Might be interesting to discuss this with him.</p>
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<p>I had read some information a while back from BMW &amp; other European companies regarding Hydrogen powered vehicles, where they say safety exceeds gas tanks of today. Perhaps you can google “safe hydrogen” and follow the links. Greencarcongress and physorg have a lot of information … enjoy the hunt.<br />
Plug- in hybrids will be the next step, for 25 cents of electricity, your car will run for 40 miles. Fuel Cells are also promising. Honda is running tests with units installed in homes that will create energy from natural gas for fuel cell vehicles.<br />
What is most needed is an administration that is not in the pocket of the oil and coal industries.<br />
My feeling is, when Gore is anointed President, he will create a program similar to the Apollo Space program and kick- start the shift to renewable energy. But they can install enough windmills and solar panels to offset a large percentage of carbon emissions … and they have not begun to tap the vast potential of conservation.<br />
<em><br />
… I’m even more long winded when it comes to the promise of Stem Cells …</em> <b>*g*</b></p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Rabett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The thing about the aluminum and gallium is crap.  There is very little gallium in the world compared to what would be needed.  Right now supplies are squeezed by the need for lead solder replacements and Gallium for Gallium nitride and Gallium arsenide LEDs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about the aluminum and gallium is crap.  There is very little gallium in the world compared to what would be needed.  Right now supplies are squeezed by the need for lead solder replacements and Gallium for Gallium nitride and Gallium arsenide LEDs.</p>
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