Comments on: In The Balance http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:55:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738282 Shell Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:53:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738282 <p>Are these GOP shills retarded … or just really really stupid? Sort of off topic … why would she have her glass removed because she didn’t want them to have her fingerprints? All govt workers have their fingerprints on file, don’t they? And in addition to that, it is rather easy to get her DNA. But don’t clue her in about DNA, or she WILL be in a rubber room.</p> Are these GOP shills retarded … or just really really stupid? Sort of off topic … why would she have her glass removed because she didn’t want them to have her fingerprints? All govt workers have their fingerprints on file, don’t they? And in addition to that, it is rather easy to get her DNA. But don’t clue her in about DNA, or she WILL be in a rubber room.

]]> By: Molly http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738277 Molly Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:51:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738277 <p><a href="#comment-738208"><em>turkish bill @ 98</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>IANAL. Also , IANTMEEW)</p></blockquote> <p>What is IANTMEEW? I thought I knew most of these abbreviations…</p> turkish bill @ 98

IANAL. Also , IANTMEEW)

What is IANTMEEW? I thought I knew most of these abbreviations…

]]> By: uncle vester http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738272 uncle vester Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:46:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738272 <p><em>When I asked Rep. Davis, he replied: “The bottom line is the administration has really not shown any willingness to stand up for her like they have for Gonzales, when what she has done is not nearly so egregious.”</em></p> <p>Well, Rep. Davis, what <em>has</em> Mr Gonzales done that you think so egregious?</p> When I asked Rep. Davis, he replied: “The bottom line is the administration has really not shown any willingness to stand up for her like they have for Gonzales, when what she has done is not nearly so egregious.”

Well, Rep. Davis, what has Mr Gonzales done that you think so egregious?

]]> By: MR. Bill http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738239 MR. Bill Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:22:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738239 <p>Mash, who’s excellent weblog “Dr. Strangelove” (and “DAily KOS” postings, a moderate American Muslim, with special knowledge on Pakistan) is always worth a read, had actually worked for Lurita Doan, and has a wrapup of the first hearings. He went from admiring her to seeing here as just another Bush Loyalist.<br /> <a href="http://www.docstrangelove.com/2007/03/31/lurita-doan-after-the-hearing/">http://www.docstrangelove.com/.....e-hearing/</a></p> <p>And as always, I shake my head and wonder what the MSM and Novakula would say if Bill Clinton’s GSA head broke the Hatch Act so egregiously…</p> Mash, who’s excellent weblog “Dr. Strangelove” (and “DAily KOS” postings, a moderate American Muslim, with special knowledge on Pakistan) is always worth a read, had actually worked for Lurita Doan, and has a wrapup of the first hearings. He went from admiring her to seeing here as just another Bush Loyalist.
http://www.docstrangelove.com/…..e-hearing/

And as always, I shake my head and wonder what the MSM and Novakula would say if Bill Clinton’s GSA head broke the Hatch Act so egregiously…

]]> By: turkish bill http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738208 turkish bill Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:58:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738208 <p>Is there some point where the promise or use of the Presidential pardon becomes obstruction of justice, and is there any mechanism for thus setting a pardon aside?</p> <p>John Dean has been writing about issues that might arise with preemptive promises of a pardon. I think emptywheel had a post on it at tnh a few days back.</p> <p>(Bottom line, if I remember rightly - promise of a pardon might constitute obstruction, especially if the promise was made by someone other than the pres - eg Cheney - but there’s unlikely to be evidence to prove it. IANAL. Also , IANTMEEW)</p> Is there some point where the promise or use of the Presidential pardon becomes obstruction of justice, and is there any mechanism for thus setting a pardon aside?

John Dean has been writing about issues that might arise with preemptive promises of a pardon. I think emptywheel had a post on it at tnh a few days back.

(Bottom line, if I remember rightly – promise of a pardon might constitute obstruction, especially if the promise was made by someone other than the pres – eg Cheney – but there’s unlikely to be evidence to prove it. IANAL. Also , IANTMEEW)

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738191 Petrocelli Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:51:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738191 <p><em>Um … hello? where’s everyone hiding?</em></p> <p>Some people call this EPU, I call it <em>being with the in- laws !!! </em><b>*g*</b></p> Um … hello? where’s everyone hiding?

Some people call this EPU, I call it being with the in- laws !!! *g*

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738138 Petrocelli Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:13:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738138 <p><a href="#comment-738054"><em>emptywheel @ 54</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-738050"><em>Joe Klein’s conscience @ 52</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Don’t forget Chris Cannon.</p></blockquote> <p>Well, seeing as Chris Cannon is clearly the Orrin in waiting, I’m sure he figures he needs to practice.</p></blockquote> <p>Hi Marcy, I think Hillary’s people have ben reading posts by you, Jane & Christy … her snarks last night reminded me of you three. If she is going to win the nomination and the Presidency, I would highly recommend that her campaign take pointers from TNH & FDL.</p> emptywheel @ 54

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 52

Don’t forget Chris Cannon.

Well, seeing as Chris Cannon is clearly the Orrin in waiting, I’m sure he figures he needs to practice.

Hi Marcy, I think Hillary’s people have ben reading posts by you, Jane & Christy … her snarks last night reminded me of you three. If she is going to win the nomination and the Presidency, I would highly recommend that her campaign take pointers from TNH & FDL.

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738129 Petrocelli Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:10:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738129 <p><a href="#comment-737993"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 25</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Rayne — You know, I’m not certain what has been up with the Davis and Novak two-step lately, but something is definitely in the air. This particular op-ed really ticked me off — especially on the eve of the Libby “don’t blame me, I just got caught” sentencing tomorrow. The whole “we’re Republicans, there shouldn’t be any consequences, the laws don’t apply to us” mentality is grating on my last nerve this morning.</p></blockquote> <p>Hi Christy, whenever my tasks get to that point, I drop them and play with the kids for a while … IMO, the best therapy to de- stress.</p> Christy Hardin Smith @ 25

Rayne — You know, I’m not certain what has been up with the Davis and Novak two-step lately, but something is definitely in the air. This particular op-ed really ticked me off — especially on the eve of the Libby “don’t blame me, I just got caught” sentencing tomorrow. The whole “we’re Republicans, there shouldn’t be any consequences, the laws don’t apply to us” mentality is grating on my last nerve this morning.

Hi Christy, whenever my tasks get to that point, I drop them and play with the kids for a while … IMO, the best therapy to de- stress.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738128 Christy Hardin Smith Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:08:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738128 <p>RonD at 92 — No, there is no mechanism for setting aside a Presidential pardon for others. Although were it to be provable that the President himself was pardoning someone as a means to obstruct justice, that would raise the issue of an impeachable offense for him. Everyone is talking about a pardon because the Libby PR offensive wants them to do so — ther person who hasn’t been talking about a pardon is Bush, himself. And, since he is the only one able to grant one, I don’t think we’ll be seeing it any time soon.</p> <p>Not with a Congress actually doing oversight ready to issue subpoenas the moment Libby’s 5th amendment protection against self-incrimination is no longer in full force and effect, anyway. If a pardon is in the offing, then it will not come until the end of Bush’s term, I predict — and thus it is important in my mind to have Libby begin serving his time straightaway or else we risk him serving none at all, and that is no punishment for so high level a flouting of the law.</p> RonD at 92 — No, there is no mechanism for setting aside a Presidential pardon for others. Although were it to be provable that the President himself was pardoning someone as a means to obstruct justice, that would raise the issue of an impeachable offense for him. Everyone is talking about a pardon because the Libby PR offensive wants them to do so — ther person who hasn’t been talking about a pardon is Bush, himself. And, since he is the only one able to grant one, I don’t think we’ll be seeing it any time soon.

Not with a Congress actually doing oversight ready to issue subpoenas the moment Libby’s 5th amendment protection against self-incrimination is no longer in full force and effect, anyway. If a pardon is in the offing, then it will not come until the end of Bush’s term, I predict — and thus it is important in my mind to have Libby begin serving his time straightaway or else we risk him serving none at all, and that is no punishment for so high level a flouting of the law.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738126 Christy Hardin Smith Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:05:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/in-the-balance/#comment-738126 <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/06/04/marathon-not-a-sprint/">Fresh thread</a> for everyone.</p> Fresh thread for everyone.

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