I’d like to ask Isang011 if he was paying attention at all? The story said it was the second deadliest country for journalists. Reporters in Mexico have had a miserable time for decades when it comes to being able to report the news freely. Don’tcha just love when people leave out vital words that give context to the story. Please, Isang. Go back to school. Learn how to read for content and write clearly. While you’re at it, why not take a look at the violence here in the US whether or not fueled by drugs. :::sniff:::

Yer on it, hoss. Nice.

“What is the premise of capitalism?”

Private property/ownership.

Oh that’s SO old school . . . . (/snark)

“El Norte” When you can’t get a fair wage in Mexico, head North and let employers in the U.S. make money off your sweat.

Unions have been beaten down…Super Highway going north
http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=42692

Taking out Mexican Corn Farmers
http://www.organicconsumers.or…..022802.cfm

Cafta
http://www.bilaterals.org/arti…..ticle=2520

Nafta
http://209.85.165.104/search?q…..gSep04.pdf nafta and mexico&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

why Latin American Women opposed the Free Trade Agreement. (more of that “Free” trade for those CEO’s
http://www.madre.org/articles/…..eftas.html

What the hell comes AFTA,NAFTA AND CAFTA?

Andrew Stern (one of my heroes) World Trade Union
http://www.owcinfo.org/Trade_U…..Again.html

KATHLEEN!!!

How DARE you post facts and such!!!

(GRIN)

The superhighway caught my attention a few weeks ago . . .

I’m all FOR closing the borders, but, I’m not sure I’m for Big Brother’s Plans as is. Highways, Detention Pens.

It’s all getting even beyond the sci fi I grew up on, I may run out of paranoia at this rate!!! ;-)

Just come to Texas and see for yourself how well the immigration thing works. By the way in Arlington Texas, 17 students so far at a local high school have tested positive for TB, a disease that is more prevalent in Texas the further south you go.
Now flame away…….

No flames here hoss, shit comes in with the downtrodden . . . inevitable. Also inevitable that folks THIS side would be infected if those coming across were NOT fully embraced and treated once here. But migra’s don’t get much at all to start with . . .

Halliburton. Blackwater. Detention pens.

For migra’s, or for US, who dissent when Unitary Executive is enabled just before the erections?

SanderO, we can’t get traction on legitimate campaign finance reform. I don’t think socialism is a winning platform.
The laws of supply and demand are like gravity. They apply whether you believe in them or not.

BushCo has put government up for sale, that’s not a topic about which reasonable people disagree. Socialism works very well with volunteers, religious communities for example. I haven’t seen it work, however, in a nation state. I think we would agree that if we don’t reclaim the government’s autonomy from the control of certain oligopolies, we have very serious problems.

JC, love yer line . . . I can’t speak for the other hoss, but, I’m sure not advocatin pure socialism.

But if we don’t make the nations focus the ‘best interest’ of the masses, it’s certain that self assured self desctruction will result (already is), and history is rife with examples.

In the end it’s unfettered fre market capitalism’s greed which is the cause of almost all misery for the people… that is the one’s who don’t earn shares and make money from them.

Greed for profits and the bottom line to feed shareholders and pay top management makes corporations act with no concern for anything but profit.

The repugs have (with many dems support) freeed corporations to “do their thing” because they think “what’s good for corporations… is good for america.” But how how wrong they are. This love of profits has destroyed us… taken us to a war (many of them actually) and addicted us to consumerism.

Money and corporations and their lobbyists run this country for THEIR benefit… not for the poeple. It’s time for a real regime change and a revolution. This system is so broke it can’t be tweaked any more. But it is headed for a self destruct and it will take all the people into a very painful place.

You’ve been warned.

Warned? Hell, it’s pretty much on its way and unstoppable, at this point.

Only blood, swear and tears will stop it, and I’m not sure even that can alter the course.

We is phooked. Pogo and Walt Kelly prophecy.

You know, maybe what we need is a Federal Living Wage — say employers can’t pay workers less than $15 dollars an hour?

See now, THAT would get a lot of folks inspired to work. Do that, and INSIST that there’s NO money given for welfare or anything else without proven and gainful labor.

Couple that with educational opportunities for folks who DO participate in state sponsored support mechanisms (WORK PROJECTS!) and you’d have an INSTANT phreakin trending to the rebuilding of the country, and a sense of pride and a sense of YOU BETTER WORK FOR YER BREAD!

I guess I’m talkin about some mandatory community service for people who can’t afford education, health CARE (not COVERAGE) services, and such.

Still have to close the border, we got too many not working in this country, and until THAT fat is trimmed from our budgets, we got no room to absorb newbies.

Our government, long before our involvement in SE Asia, has ALWAYS enabled the infusion of drugs from foreign country’s, as a means of medicating and numbing our populous.

Iran/Contra alone set back the evolution of the Black Race when Ricky Freeway Flyer intro’d cheap crack to Watts, LA . . .

To this day, the stats I read suggest that the middle and lower class WHITE people are the reason drugs are so coveted to smuggle in and MAKE (meth comes from my Central Valley in CA and is made by both Hispanics and whites).

So WHITE’S are the reason BROWNS are profiteering.

History proves it. Wave, after wave. Drug after drug.

The fact of the matter is, OUR OWN SOCIETY AND ITS ELECTED LEADERS are destroying the middle class thru the importation of illegal immigrants and the drugs brought in with and without them.

You can’t get all sanctimonious about that shit, it’s real.

I’m not for white bred supremist insanity, but, you can’t ignore the fact that we DO have a HUGE problem, and until you wanna pick yer own fruit and veggies, this problem will continue as drugs and violence are easily enabled to enter our country under the umbrella of a cheap work force.

N that’s a matter of elected officials and legislated policies, and the turning of heads who PROFIT one way or another from cheap illegal labor, and get their hands greased to look the other way as drugs follow.

Time to seal the borders, and time to END our global interventionism, and rebuild from within.

OR die a painful death like Rome did.

Fact of the matter is, Mexico IS a huge threat to this country and if it’s not dealt with, it will drag us down further into the corruption and old class rich families that rule it, and have ruined it by destroying it.

Course, we’re doing that to ourselves pretty well, anyways, without Mexico’s help, so maybe they DON’T matter . . . .

Our country is broke, badly, and it’s a corrupt as a third world country and as fractured as the USSR was upon breakup.

Only will take a few little steps to set us on the road to fractured and splintered groups.

It’s time to acknowledge, we are broke top to bottom, and illegal immigration and drugs and violence are part and parcel of the problem that needs to be fixed.

America First. Infrastructure First. US CITIZENS FIRST! Time to take care of our own, be they black, white, brown, yellow or green . . . . and then think about how to help the rest of the world when we get our house in order.

Harumph.

Close the borders. Stop the interventionism. Bring the troops home. Rebuild internally.

No one’s invading us or coming after us, we got nukes. The little terrorist bullshits can’t hurt us in a large enuff scale . . . we get out of THEIR issues, and we won’t be as much of a target as we are, thanks to ShrubCo and the neocon fools who CREATED THIS SHITMIRE and made US a target for the whole world.

Let’s make sure we are putting the blame SMACK DAB SQUARE on the butts that created our lot in life.

N let’s start to reform our country and government from top to bottom for the masses, not the few.

Harumph.