“Blathering, delusional wingnuts.” Really, you ARE too kind to them… certainly more kind than they have been to Valerie Plame!

eeew

Zed 1 2 3

Hi Jane!

That ‘Law & Order’ dude got some splain’ to do on the way up the ladder.

Hi-yo Fitz!

Oh and BTW, read my lips – covert under IIPA. Blathering, delusional wingnuts awakening from years of denial can line up to smooch Valerie Plame’s tuchus right here.

So Jane,

Tell us how you really feel ; )

It a great day for the Peep!e, thanks Jane & Marcy

Jane,

Are you surprised at how few letters were received by Judge Walton?

Last night LooseHeadProp said we need to be specifically on the lookout for the public officials using their official letterhead on these letters.

It would be real nice if the letters are released on Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Just reading through them would be an early b’day present for me! (next Friday, 6/8)

And oh BTW, JANE YOU ROCK!!!

I cannot wait to read the joint letter from Fred Thompson and Tim (Cagey) Griffin.

We all look forward to seeing what Law and Order Fred has to say about his buddy, er, breaking the law, eh?

Frankly, I don’t know if Valerie would want to subject her tuchus to those kisses. Just think of the source. Ick.

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

“Weightiness of the underlying charges.” Yeah. Like it.

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

There’s some kind of a gas coming out of his mouth too.

Loo Hoo @ 16

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

There’s some kind of a gas coming out of his mouth too.

ectoplasm

OT. Think my last post thanking egregious for the Dodd transcript was left in EPU land.

Reposting a big thank you! in hopes that egregious sees it.

Let the attacks on Walton begin!

I’m working up my playlist for sentencing.

I’m starting off with Sly & the Family Stone’s Dance to the Music, first ’cause it rocks and it’s gonna be a rockin’ day; and second ’cause there’s that line Listen to the Voices! just perfect for the occasion.
Listen to our voices cause we are reclaiming our power.

logorrhea @ 14

Perle looks like death warmed over…

They ALL look like death warmed over — GOoPer Zombies on Parade.

Has there ever been an example of a blathering, delusional wingnut awakening from years of denial? It’s probably like temporarily awakening a catatonic patient.

RevDeb @ 7

Oh and BTW, read my lips – covert under IIPA. Blathering, delusional wingnuts awakening from years of denial can line up to smooch Valerie Plame’s tuchus right here.

So Jane,

Tell us how you really feel ; )

Jane, can the Lake declare that your handle for the day? *g*

You are certainly entitled.

How can anyone awake when they are already brain dead. Pull the plug on the Republican Party.

OT -
Jane did you see this from today’s Boston Globe? A malpractice lawsuit wound being settled out of court. A blogger using the pseudonym of Flea was the defendant and he got called out in court after having blogged disparagingly about the plaintiffs legal team as well as discussing defense strategy.

Stupid is a term that comes to mind…

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

That’s actually one of his better ones.

logorrhea @ 13

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

and that’s a good picture of him

Loo Hoo @ 15

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

There’s some kind of a gas coming out of his mouth too.

Are you smellin’ sulphur, Loo Hoo?

Why on earth would you want to reward the “blathering, delusional wingnuts?”

Wonder if Fred Thompson’s presidential run will end before it begins. Unless he publicly states he was wrong to support Libby the Convicted Criminal I don’t see him having a chance in hell. But he can’t really do that and a have chance with the wingnuts who vote in the primaries.

jinx Mandrake!

EPU’d from a couple back, sorry for OT here, re the death of JFK:
———
biff diggerence @ 44

… Sister Mary Philomena broke the news to my third grade class. An Irish Parish Parochial School, no less.

I was a college junior on that black day. The news spread instantly throughout the Harvard campus as every church bell at school, and throughout the City of Cambridge and probably Boston, began to peal dolefully. People walked around in shocked silence, or conversed in hushed tones.

It was an awful contrast to the last time we’d seen him. He’d visited us in 1960 as President-Elect (as a member of the Harvard Board of Overseers), one crisp Fall day between November and his inauguration. It was a total mob scene, everyone deliriously happy, laughing, smiling as we crowded around to see and congratulate our Favorite Son.

So, take your own memories — yours or others’ — and pass them down to your children, as I have done mine. The country was not perfect then, but it was better, far better. Remember JFK’s favorite song lyrics —

“Don’t let it be forgot / That once there was a spot / For one brief, shining moment that / was known as Camelot.”

He had no idea how brief, for him or for us. Yes, he wasn’t a perfect man; but never forget that his flaws are dwarfed — monstrously dwarfed — by those of the current “Administration.”

Never forget that. Never forget him.

RIP, JFK… :(

The unclassified summary of Plame’s employment with the CIA at the time that syndicated columnist Robert Novak published her name on July 14, 2003 says, “Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for who the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.”

Plame worked as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations and was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) in January 2002 at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The employment history indicates that while she was assigned to CPD, Plame, “engaged in temporary duty travel overseas on official business.” The report says, “she traveled at least seven times to more than ten times.” When overseas Plame traveled undercover, “sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.” (emphasis mine)

BTW can you just take a minute and imagine how frustrating it must have been to be Team Fitz?

They had the clearances necessary to read the reoprt that said she was a NOC.

They knew all along that she was covered employee. Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

So , PatFitz had to figure out how to imply that she was covert, as he knew her to be, wothout violating the rules about discussiong classified inforamtion.

he had to sit silent and take shit from Vicky and company all the while knowing that Plame was covert and not defend himself.

He had to go to trial, still dancing around the issue–how much did that effect his charging decisions? After all if he could not prove by competetn evidence that she was covert, how could he charge under IIPA?

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???

Better him tha me. Iwould have put a fist through some drywall and messed up the decor of my office. I don’t know where he gets his patience

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

For the the undead, it’s a descriptive photo.

-ck- @ 21

logorrhea @ 14

Perle looks like death warmed over…

They ALL look like death warmed over — GOoPer Zombies on Parade.

Yah, notice the complexions, always on a spectrum from pastiness to grey with no authentic flesh-colored hues in between. No wonder they hate liberals so much. We are so much better lookin’ and we can actually get out in the sun from time to time without fear of shriveling into a vampire raisin or melting into a witchy-puddle.

Ughh! I am glad you guys are followings this. Can’t let Scooter get away for compromising an entire intelligence network.

OT

I begin to wonder who put the LSD in the White House water supply. This via Froomkin about the Deciderer:

“Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated ‘I am the president!’ He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of ‘our country’s destiny.’”

Somebody please tell the President that the nuclear football is being worked on but we’ll get it back to you as soon as possible, maybe in 2009.

Of course, Bush does have reason to be frustrated it is all apparently the fault of the media, you know the supine, suppliant, sycophantic MSM.

“Current and former Bush administration communications officials tell the US News Political Bulletin that they now believe they relied too heavily on traditional media and the White House press corps to get out the President’s message about the broader war on terrorism and the booming economy. ‘We didn’t use the new tools of communication’ like the Internet, blogs and mobile technology, said a former key official.

That’s right, folks, they just needed to talk to bloggers. I suspect the ones they had in mind were of the right wing variety. Apparently these Administration officials *cough* Tony Snow *cough* really don’t read the rightwing blogosphere. If they had they might have noticed that they are even more sycophantic and fact free in their adoration of all things Bushian than the MSM. So how again would this have helped things or are Snow et al thinking a couple of youtube spots was all that was needed to turn things around. I expect this is where the LSD enters into their thinking. Whoa! Look at that, you see those colors, and that chair, that chair is melting. This is what our public discourse has come to.

Does anyone know what Congress is doing in regards to Libby’s treason?

I hope Tucker reads his dad’s on his show!

dakine01 @ 25

OT -
Jane did you see this from today’s Boston Globe? A malpractice lawsuit wound being settled out of court. A blogger using the pseudonym of Flea was the defendant and he got called out in court after having blogged disparagingly about the plaintiffs legal team as well as discussing defense strategy.

Stupid is a term that comes to mind…

OK that was just weird

cathy @ 19

Let the attacks on Walton begin!

One morning we got in early and the closed circuit tv to the courtroom was on while Reggie was sentencing some other folks. I think I may have written about it at the time but he got himself all worked up talking to young black men living in self-imposed chains.

If he went all soft on Scooter after that I would be pretty surprised.

looseheadprop @ 33

The unclassified summary of Plame’s employment with the CIA at the time that syndicated columnist Robert Novak published her name on July 14, 2003 says, “Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for who the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.”

Plame worked as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations and was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) in January 2002 at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The employment history indicates that while she was assigned to CPD, Plame, “engaged in temporary duty travel overseas on official business.” The report says, “she traveled at least seven times to more than ten times.” When overseas Plame traveled undercover, “sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.” (emphasis mine)

BTW can you just take a minute and imagine how frustrating it must have been to be Team Fitz?

They had the clearances necessary to read the reoprt that said she was a NOC.

They knew all along that she was covered employee. Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

So , PatFitz had to figure out how to imply that she was covert, as he knew her to be, wothout violating the rules about discussiong classified inforamtion.

he had to sit silent and take shit from Vicky and company all the while knowing that Plame was covert and not defend himself.

He had to go to trial, still dancing around the issue–how much did that effect his charging decisions? After all if he could not prove by competetn evidence that she was covert, how could he charge under IIPA?

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???

Better him tha me. Iwould have put a fist through some drywall and messed up the decor of my office. I don’t know where he gets his patience

But, but, but, he’s just SUCH an average prosecutor! /snark

Great news on its face, but I’m concerned that there is enough wiggle room for the Judge to opt to hold back some letters. Of course only on “national security” or other such grounds.

Nice riff on Led Zeppelin in the title Jane.

looseheadprop @ 40

dakine01 @ 25

OT -
Jane did you see this from today’s Boston Globe? A malpractice lawsuit wound being settled out of court. A blogger using the pseudonym of Flea was the defendant and he got called out in court after having blogged disparagingly about the plaintiffs legal team as well as discussing defense strategy.

Stupid is a term that comes to mind…

OK that was just weird

I posted it this morning for Christy as well. It truly boggles that someone could be quite THAT obtuse in so many ways yet have the education this person obviously has.

Thanks for the pictures. Fred Thompson sure has movie star looks, a combination of Kelsey Grammer and Sidney Greenstreet.

Perle just reminds me of Digger the Dermatophyte. Or a jaundiced, swishy vampire.

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting (h/t twolf1)

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

mui @ 36

Ughh! I am glad you guys are followings this. Can’t let Scooter get away for compromising an entire intelligence network.

Scooter will get away with it since he will be pardoned. Perhaps that pardon can become an interesting issue to poke at the Republic collection of pseudo-Reagans.

Bluetoe @ 38

Does anyone know what Congress is doing in regards to Libby’s treason?

Libby’s treason? How about CHENEY’S treason — it came out during the trial that Cheney was the one who started the ball rolling!

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

Bush press event right now.

Megan Sullivan…is this the Rove aide? Shipping her to Baghdad…important duties…Merkin freedom.

And just a tad out of reach of Congressional investigating committees?

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting (h/t twolf1)

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

I know. That scares me.

I wrote one of the letters to Judge Walton and thought it would be one of thousands. I am astonished that there are only 150. I thought the whole literate world was following this trial and reading both the transcripts and between the lines. Well, it’s good to be in such esteemed company, assuming here, as I am, that I am not referring to the dudes who wrote in urging leniency.

Craaaaap.
I clicked on this piece while eating some warmed up steak from last night.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get A-1 sauce of of your monitor?
Jeebus, those look more like morgue shots than mug shots.

Hugh @ 37

He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of ‘our country’s destiny..

are you kidding me!
damn! those bases are permanent.

Dakine01 and Mandraake, you had me laughing through flu sxs.

LHP, you’re teaching me (as ever :) to look harder:

Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

and Hugh, I’m sure the flu won’t get me – but Shrub just may

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!”

That is so scary I don’t even want to think about it.

My shrinky sense wants to go to bed and pull the covers over its couch.

The smooching of lovely Valerie’s bottom I would undertake even if I didn’t know she was covert;=)

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

freaks me out! we can’t wait
PELOSI 2007

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

Does anyone besides me think we’ve already got a Constitutional crisis? Both the Idiot-in-Chief and Darth are certifiably insane, and should be removed from office forthwith.

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

Could someone mention to George H.W. Bush that it is well past the time for him to step in and rescue his son?

jane hamsher:

It’s “tuches”.

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting (h/t twolf1)

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

Froomkin had this as well. Attributed it to a columnist from Dallas (Georgie Anne Geyer?).

Balrog @ 44

Nice riff on Led Zeppelin in the title Jane.

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

puppethead @ 30

Wonder if Fred Thompson’s presidential run will end before it begins. Unless he publicly states he was wrong to support Libby the Convicted Criminal I don’t see him having a chance in hell. But he can’t really do that and a have chance with the wingnuts who vote in the primaries.

Would that not be hysterical? Griffin quits USA job on Friday. Loses replacement job on Tuesday.

Does anyone else feel like OUR Congress should not be on vacation right now?

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

Jane, please forgive this digression; this ThinkProgress post may be worth noting now: Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’

Georgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

(snip)

Link to Dallas Morning news opinion/article: Georgie Anne Geyer: A spreading terror

looseheadprop @ 33

Better him tha me. Iwould have put a fist through some drywall and messed up the decor of my office. I don’t know where he gets his patience

I do wonder what he does to relieve stress…yowzer, I’d hate to be his fencing partner.

dakine01 @ 45

I posted it this morning for Christy as well. It truly boggles that someone could be quite THAT obtuse in so many ways yet have the education this person obviously has.

You just described the entire administration: educated, yet incredibly obtuse.

Brisingamen @ 49

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

We could outsource the OVP to the government of the People’s Republic of China…there’s very little we need the OVP for anyhow, according to Article II of the Constitution, right?

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

All Republic candidates are seen through the Reagan filter.

Fred’s old. He’s an actor. They have no one else who seems more like Reagan.

Jane Hamsher @ 62

Balrog @ 44

Nice riff on Led Zeppelin in the title Jane.

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

Now if it had been Allman Brothers, Little Feat or Jimmy Buffett ref, I might have gotten it…

Badwater @ 22

Has there ever been an example of a blathering, delusional wingnut awakening from years of denial? It’s probably like temporarily awakening a catatonic patient.

Isn’t that where Media Matters came from?

This Kos diary is a must “see”:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/31/145433/684

looseheadprop @ 13

Frankly, I don’t know if Valerie would want to subject her tuchus to those kisses. Just think of the source. Ick.

And seeing as how a huge chunk of the Right’s hatred for Joe Wilson probably relates to their jealousy that Joe can get a hot date, but they can’t, I would suggest they should just keep their puckery lips away.

Rayne @ 67

Brisingamen @ 49

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

We could outsource the OVP to the government of the People’s Republic of China…there’s very little we need the OVP for anyhow, according to Article II of the Constitution, right?

As I said yesterday, the worst thing you could do to Cheney and Bush would be to afflict them with a conscience and let them live a very long time.

Rayne @ 67 says

You just described the entire administration: educated, yet incredibly obtuse.

You just reminded me of my father’s term for folks like that doctor AND this administration:

Educated Idiots

dakine01 @ 45

looseheadprop @ 40

OK that was just weird

I posted it this morning for Christy as well. It truly boggles that someone could be quite THAT obtuse in so many ways yet have the education this person obviously has.

Why would this surprise you – the man’s a doctor! In fact, he is a doctor who missed a diagnosis of juvenile diabetes, and a twelve year old child is now dead. Furthermore, he was facing one of the best lawyers in the Commonwealth, and dared to go to trial with these facts.

With luck ‘Flea’ will be removed from his profession.

Blathering, delusional wingnuts awakening from years of denial

Yeah, I read Greenwald’s post earlier today, detailing the absolute certainty with which various right whinge personalities stated that Valerie Plame was not covert.

Except…now that they are confronted with fact, they still aren’t willing to admit they were wrong…and pretty consistently wrong; these a**holes almost never retract one of their lies, and keep getting presented as some legitimate authority on whatever is being discussed.

Despite mutliple confirmations, there’s plenty of people willing to say that there’s still some doubt as to Plame’s covert status.
Or, worse yet, that she lied under oath (not true) about not sending Joe Wilson to Niger…or some other frantic twisting of the available information in order to defend an indefensible and fallacious position.

Badwater@59- The ‘Resident’ is going to meet with ‘Putin’ in Kennebunkerport shortly. Looks as though ‘Poppy’ is changing the liter in the sand box.

Hugh @ 12:22 pm and others -

Oops – I didn’t see your posts until after I posted my 12:36 pm comment.

OT
If Ed*ard Teller is around, Howie has a piece on the massive scale of Alaskan corruption.
He probably already knows all about it but heres the link anyway.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..white.html

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 66

That story deserves wide coverage. Too bad that the MSM so is wrapped up in important issues like Kobe vs. the Lakers that they won’t give it proper coverage.

Wow so we finally have a half crazed president who thinks that he’s misunderstood and that everyone’s out ta get him– again. Welcome home Tricky Dick.

Some think that it’s not a good idea to have a whacked out guy in the Oval Office.

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

glenwald explains

From the Dallas Star article:

“He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.” (my emphasis)

It is Bush.

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

OK, I’ll bite.

Siince at least ‘68, the GOP Prez machine has been shaped/run by admen. With Nixon, they didn’t had much to work with on camera, and they still won twice.

Reagan was their dream. He’d been selected as pitchman (for Borax!) on TV and had all the touchie-feelies from his actiing roles. He was a natural for the pitchmen. (sulfur extra).

Thompson succeeds on TeeVee.

He’s a tool, and a pretty one, and that’s perfect for the Grand ‘Ol Percent.

Hope this helps.

late edit: merde – sorry for duplicate. verry slow typist.

OT- Others may have already noted this upthread.
And by popular demand, dateline Little Rock AK:

Tim Griffin to Resign Friday

Brisingamen @ 49

Libby’s treason? How about CHENEY’S treason — it came out during the trial that Cheney was the one who started the ball rolling!

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

Sorry–it came out before the trial that Cheney started the ball rolling. The stuff in the trial was just for all the slow MSM types.

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

They have a thing for B actors. Makes ‘em feel macho.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 77

Hugh @ 12:22 pm and others -

Oops – I didn’t see your posts until after I posted my 12:36 pm comment.

Great minds, Stephen, great minds.

rwcole @ 80

Wow so we finally have a half crazed president who thinks that he’s misunderstood and that everyone’s out ta get him– again. Welcome home Tricky Dick.

Some think that it’s not a good idea to have a whacked out guy in the Oval Office.

At least those around Nixon in the summer of ‘74 were still somewhat sane – I say somewhat cuz they included Hank the K and Haig but still…We pretty much don’t have that luxury today.

Eureka Springs @ 64

Does anyone else feel like OUR Congress should not be on vacation right now?

You are so very right.

Rubber stamp? No

Oversight? NOW

rwcole @ 80

Some think that it’s not a good idea to have a whacked out guy in the Oval Office.

I wouldn’t mind if the “whacked out” component involved Thoraz*ne…I suspect somebody’s been neglecting their meds for a long time.

*ilbo @ 76

Badwater@59- The ‘Resident’ is going to meet with ‘Putin’ in Kennebunkerport shortly. Looks as though ‘Poppy’ is changing the liter in the sand box.

I hope that’s true. Poppy may be doing it to save the Bush family legacy so that Jeb has a chance, but really he needs to save all of us from the nitwit-in-chief.

jim oconnor @ 43

Great news on its face, but I’m concerned that there is enough wiggle room for the Judge to opt to hold back some letters. Of course only on “national security” or other such grounds.

Like Cheney being his own branch of the gov’t.

dakine01 @ 69

Jane Hamsher @ 62

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

Now if it had been Allman Brothers, Little Feat or Jimmy Buffett ref, I might have gotten it…

Another comment in this thread is bringing a ZZ Top tune from long ago to mind. :)

emptywheel @ 85

Brisingamen @ 49

Libby’s treason? How about CHENEY’S treason — it came out during the trial that Cheney was the one who started the ball rolling!

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

Sorry–it came out before the trial that Cheney started the ball rolling. The stuff in the trial was just for all the slow MSM types.

Isn’t “slow MSM types” a bit redundant?

Naive I may be, but wouldn’t the CIA be the final arbiter of who was covert within its ranks? And it was the CIA itself that referred the Plame matter to the Justice Dep’t., so
I would think the matter is settled; of course Plame was covert.

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

The simple answer is:

1) He doesn’t have any fingerprints on this current stinkbomb of an administration.

2) 25 million people watch Law & Order each week, providing name recognition and exposure for free.

3) He’s another empty suit with very little ambition that the real power brokers can trot out there to meet and greet while the heavy lifting gets done backstage. Heck, with this guy Darth might decide to be the head of yet another Vice Presidential search committee.

4) They love actors as political candidates.

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

Maybe he’s a zombie? Doesn’t he also look a little like Novak?

Bob in HI

Facing down his opponents with steely resolve- George W. Bush faced the class of sixth graders and bellowed “I’m the fuckin WARTIME President”!!!!

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 93

dakine01 @ 69

Now if it had been Allman Brothers, Little Feat or Jimmy Buffett ref, I might have gotten it…

Another comment in this thread is bringing a ZZ Top tune from long ago to mind. :)

Which?

Rayne

Fencing? Do you mean that literally?

I’ve heard he runs, even the odd race or two and he has always been a hiker, but fencing?

I have such a hard time picturing that.

I’ve seen this guy play laywer’s league baseball and basketball and do not recall the kind on the balls of the feet balance it takes to fence.

Elliott @ 81

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

glenwald explains

Oh — My — Ghod!

I think I’m sorry I asked. Another chickenhawk…like that’s going to work.

Badwater @ 91

*ilbo @ 76

Badwater@59- The ‘Resident’ is going to meet with ‘Putin’ in Kennebunkerport shortly. Looks as though ‘Poppy’ is changing the liter in the sand box.

I hope that’s true. Poppy may be doing it to save the Bush family legacy so that Jeb has a chance, but really he needs to save all of us from the nitwit-in-chief.

One of Bush’s sadistic little games used to be forcing heads of state to pay obeisance to him in the cauldron of that petroliferous desert called Texas in the summer. Putin must have said fuck you to that and added insult to injury by suggesting Poppy’s house.

He played a carrier skipper in Red October.

Rooskies don’t take dumps without “a plan”, etc, etc, etc.`

Fred Thompson? They want him cause all the other goopers are stiffs- Freddy is too- but it will take a while for that to become obvious- besides he’s taller than anyone the dems can field.

Jane Hamsher @ 62

Balrog @ 44

Nice riff on Led Zeppelin in the title Jane.

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

You know, I’ve invented a very special form of torture for Jane (it’s my idea of a good way to help someone through chemo). I refused–absolutely refused–to name the name of a band that comes on the radio. Even with those Wilson brothers, I refused to name the band. (Mostly out of an inadequacy on my part–I get anxiety attacks when I’m asked to do that, and my brain just doesn’t remember band names or titiles, but it got to be a little fun after a while.)

So she’s probably feeling a real need to be around people who will note her musical allusions.

A star with James Woolsey’s name on it should be placed in a urinal at the CIA.

STTP in Ohio @ 96

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

The simple answer is:

1) He doesn’t have any fingerprints on this current stinkbomb of an administration.

2) 25 million people watch Law & Order each week, providing name recognition and exposure for free.

3) He’s another empty suit with very little ambition that the real power brokers can trot out there to meet and greet while the heavy lifting gets done backstage. Heck, with this guy Darth might decide to be the head of yet another Vice Presidential search committee.

4) They love actors as political candidates.

Now Ol’ Fred has always had the ambition, just the lazy man’s way. Don’t forget, he became an actor after being declared photogenic for his on-camera work as the lead minority counsel on the Senate Select H2Ogate Committee.

biff diggerence @ 103

He played a carrier skipper in Red October.

Rooskies don’t take dumps without “a plan”, etc, etc, etc.`

“These things will get out of hand and we’ll all kill each other.” Hope Fred remembers that line.

global yokel @ 96

Naive I may be, but wouldn’t the CIA be the final arbiter of who was covert within its ranks? And it was the CIA itself that referred the Plame matter to the Justice Dep’t., so
I would think the matter is settled; of course Plame was covert.

Yeah, then why not either declassify whatever is this newly de-classifed document

OR

Easier still, issue a never classifed document that provided unequivocal proof?

Might have made for different charging decisions, n’est pas?

Though you still have the scienter issue, which is where Libby’s onstruction screws things up

kirk murphy @ 55

Dakine01 and Mandraake, you had me laughing through flu sxs.

LHP, you’re teaching me (as ever :) to look harder:

Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

and Hugh, I’m sure the flu won’t get me – but Shrub just may

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!”

That is so scary I don’t even want to think about it.

My shrinky sense wants to go to bed and pull the covers over its couch.

as a shrinky, is there some procedure by which you could have Prez Tarzan declared legally incompetent…….and COMMITTED? He sure is a danger to others.

Bob Schacht @ 97

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

Maybe he’s a zombie? Doesn’t he also look a little like Novak?

Bob in HI

Think a badly aged, gout-ridden Lestat.

Brisingamen @ 65

Can anyone here explain to me why the GOP seems to want Fred Thompson to run?

Same reason, I guess, that the Repubs have anointed Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate.

You know, I’ve invented a very special form of torture for Jane (it’s my idea of a good way to help someone through chemo). I refused–absolutely refused–to name the name of a band that comes on the radio. Even with those Wilson brothers, I refused to name the band. (Mostly out of an inadequacy on my part–I get anxiety attacks when I’m asked to do that, and my brain just doesn’t remember band names or titiles, but it got to be a little fun after a while.)

So she’s probably feeling a real need to be around people who will note her musical allusions.

She just asks Kobe.

looseheadprop @ 33

The unclassified summary of Plame’s employment with the CIA at the time that syndicated columnist Robert Novak published her name on July 14, 2003 says, “Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for who the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.”

Plame worked as an operations officer in the Directorate of Operations and was assigned to the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) in January 2002 at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The employment history indicates that while she was assigned to CPD, Plame, “engaged in temporary duty travel overseas on official business.” The report says, “she traveled at least seven times to more than ten times.” When overseas Plame traveled undercover, “sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.” (emphasis mine)

BTW can you just take a minute and imagine how frustrating it must have been to be Team Fitz?

They had the clearances necessary to read the reoprt that said she was a NOC.

They knew all along that she was covered employee. Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

So , PatFitz had to figure out how to imply that she was covert, as he knew her to be, wothout violating the rules about discussiong classified inforamtion.

he had to sit silent and take shit from Vicky and company all the while knowing that Plame was covert and not defend himself.

He had to go to trial, still dancing around the issue–how much did that effect his charging decisions? After all if he could not prove by competetn evidence that she was covert, how could he charge under IIPA?

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???

Better him tha me. Iwould have put a fist through some drywall and messed up the decor of my office. I don’t know where he gets his patience

Good question.
Now that the IIPA issue is resolved, does that mean Fitzgerald can file new indictments based on IIPA that he could not do before?

Bob in HI

“death warmed over”

Somehow I’m missing the warmed over part.

dakine01 @ 99

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 93

Another comment in this thread is bringing a ZZ Top tune from long ago to mind. :)

Which?

let me guess, it referred to Valerie.Brisingamen @ 101

Elliott @ 81

glenwald explains

Oh — My — Ghod!

I think I’m sorry I asked. Another chickenhawk…like that’s going to work.

this morning on Washington Journal they had 45 minutes of calls about his candidacy. I actually laughed until I cried listening to the whacky reasons people were into him. I think he’ll loose big. but what do I know?

All great news!

Re Thompson, he is still listed as an advisor to the Libby Defense Trust on http://www.scooterlibby.com. The other advisors are a hoot, too.

It would be interesting to ask each for a statement on the eve of sentencing ESPECIALLY since by now they have to have accepted Valerie’s status on outing day. “How does it feel to have your name associated with the defense of a traitor?”

Sixty Something @ 18

OT. Think my last post thanking egregious for the Dodd transcript was left in EPU land.

Reposting a big thank you! in hopes that egregious sees it.

Hey you’re welcome! I did it for our hearing impaired pups who said they couldn’t follow the video. Turns out it works for the many dialup folks as well.

emptywheel @ 105

Jane Hamsher @ 62

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

You know, I’ve invented a very special form of torture for Jane (it’s my idea of a good way to help someone through chemo). I refused–absolutely refused–to name the name of a band that comes on the radio. Even with those Wilson brothers, I refused to name the band. (Mostly out of an inadequacy on my part–I get anxiety attacks when I’m asked to do that, and my brain just doesn’t remember band names or titiles, but it got to be a little fun after a while.)

So she’s probably feeling a real need to be around people who will note her musical allusions.

I’m the opposite (up until the 90s anyway). I think I’ve gotten at least 3 phone calls over the years from my sister and one of her close friends. Each time they have asked me out of the blue, either the title or the lyrics to Stevie Wonder’s first hit.

“Blathering, delusional wingnuts awakening from years of denial can line up to smooch Valerie Plame’s tuchus right here.”

Can non-wingnuts get in that line?

They keep saying Thompson is like Reagan…no wonder they want him to run.

When I read about the Pres’ shrieking and thumping, this stood out.

He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

Bob Schacht @ 115

looseheadprop @ 33

BTW can you just take a minute and imagine how frustrating it must have been to be Team Fitz?

They had the clearances necessary to read the reoprt that said she was a NOC.

They knew all along that she was covered employee. Yet, for whatever reason (and I would like to know what it was) the CIA saw fit NOT to declassify this info untul after the trial.

So , PatFitz had to figure out how to imply that she was covert, as he knew her to be, wothout violating the rules about discussiong classified inforamtion.

he had to sit silent and take shit from Vicky and company all the while knowing that Plame was covert and not defend himself.

He had to go to trial, still dancing around the issue–how much did that effect his charging decisions? After all if he could not prove by competetn evidence that she was covert, how could he charge under IIPA?

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???

Better him tha me. Iwould have put a fist through some drywall and messed up the decor of my office. I don’t know where he gets his patience

Good question.
Now that the IIPA issue is resolved, does that mean Fitzgerald can file new indictments based on IIPA that he could not do before?

Bob in HI

You still have to prove scienter (guilty knowledge) in this case that they knew she was covert and that they INTENDED to disclose the info.

This is an intent based crime. Scooter holds the “keys to the kingdom” on the intent issue

brendan @ 111

Bob Schacht @ 97

Maybe he’s a zombie? Doesn’t he also look a little like Novak?

Bob in HI

Think a badly aged, gout-ridden Lestat.

Ah, but Lestat never truly ages, he just decomposes.

rwcole @ 99

Facing down his opponents with steely resolve- George W. Bush faced the class of sixth graders and bellowed “I’m the fuckin WARTIME President”!!!!

As the entire class breaks down in tears, his aides hustle him away and the glint of a needle is seen in one’s hand.

They’re coming to take me away ha ha, ho ho, hee hee.

looseheadprop @ 110

global yokel @ 96

Naive I may be, but wouldn’t the CIA be the final arbiter of who was covert within its ranks? And it was the CIA itself that referred the Plame matter to the Justice Dep’t., so
I would think the matter is settled; of course Plame was covert.

Yeah, then why not either declassify whatever is this newly de-classifed document

OR

Easier still, issue a never classifed document that provided unequivocal proof?

Might have made for different charging decisions, n’est pas?

Though you still have the scienter issue, which is where Libby’s onstruction screws things up

But you still had the head of the CIA under oath at the trial saying she was covert.

I’m not a blathering, delusional wingnut, but can I smooch Valerie Plame’s tuchus anyway?

emptywheel @ 106

Jane Hamsher @ 62

Eh Balrog, I thought nobody was gonna notice.

Gracias.

You know, I’ve invented a very special form of torture for Jane (it’s my idea of a good way to help someone through chemo). I refused–absolutely refused–to name the name of a band that comes on the radio. Even with those Wilson brothers, I refused to name the band. (Mostly out of an inadequacy on my part–I get anxiety attacks when I’m asked to do that, and my brain just doesn’t remember band names or titiles, but it got to be a little fun after a while.)

So she’s probably feeling a real need to be around people who will note her musical allusions.

She’s so competitive. I kicked David Corn’s ass at the Libby trial with “name that band” and she knew I would win so she wouldn’t play.

Couldn’t even give poor chemo brain a break.

Pete

Get ta the end of the line.

So, do you think that Fred Hiatt wrote one of those letters?

snowbird42 @ 121

They keep saying Thompson is like Reagan…no wonder they want him to run.

When I read about the Pres’ shrieking and thumping, this stood out.

He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

If Bush really believes that Iraq is the country’s destiny then why are there no Bushes finding their destinies there?

LS @ 71

This Kos diary is a must “see”:

dailykos link

Bush said in this press conference that he hadn’t been to Iraq. Didn’t he bring a turkey there some time ago? Did he forget? Or was that mess hall set up at the ranch?

RC @ 129

So, do you think that Fred Hiatt wrote one of those letters?

He writes lead editorials for Libby, not letters.

looseheadprop @ 100

Rayne

Fencing? Do you mean that literally?

I’ve heard he runs, even the odd race or two and he has always been a hiker, but fencing?

I have such a hard time picturing that.

I’ve seen this guy play laywer’s league baseball and basketball and do not recall the kind on the balls of the feet balance it takes to fence.

No, I didn’t mean it literally. I did mean I had no clue what he did for stress management. I picture him attacking any sport or hobby like he did the Libby case — in which case, either fencing or knitting against the guy could be, um, hazardous.

I don’t mind in the least of Thompson runs.

dakine01 @ 3:46 pm -

Tush from their Fandango! album.

OT question for the legal beagles:

Is there a way of undoing the damage that Monica and Schlozman have done to the DoJ? ie is there a way that the hires they brought in could be vetted again or have their appointments rescinded?

Just askin’

wondering if there’s a way to unsh*t the DoJ bed.

Of course, that video is a prank.

Thompson always appears as if he’s about to belch.

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting (h/t twolf1)

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

bold mine

I think he borrowed this from Ariel Sharon and the Israelophiles: creating “facts on the ground” in order to skew an outcome.

I think the spillage of red ink as far as the eye can see is another such tactic, the purpose being to constrain future presidents so that they’ll have to pay for cleaning up the Bush mess, meaning that they’ll have less to spend on, say, actual worthwhile things like funding single-payer health insurance or fighting global warming.

And also staffing both the civil service as well as political appointees with Republican hacks who can’t be summarily replaced if and when Bush leaves office, not just in the DOJ but everywhere (and not incidentally, the Supreme Court.)

It’s all part of the same pattern, and Rove’s in charge of the Republicanization of our national Government.

Bob in HI

LS @ 71

This Kos diary is a must “see”:

dailykos link

thank you LS! A Whitney Brown always cracks me up with his sharp eye and his sharp tongue

Who’s the guy on the right?

I asked Sen Dodd about the new US embassy in Baghdad and now this article from Iraqslogger. Its quite a tale.
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ind…..ad_Embassy

What has happened to all they America once was?

Bob Schacht @ 98

logorrhea @ 14

Damn. Perle looks like death warmed over in that pic.

Maybe he’s a zombie? Doesn’t he also look a little like Novak?

Bob in HI

It has always been my contention that Novak and Perle were separated at birth.

Talk, talk talk.

WASHINGTON – Accused of dragging his feet on global warming, President Bush on Thursday proposed talks among the countries that emit the most greenhouse gases — a strategy that critics immediately labeled as counterproductive since a process already exists for international climate talks.

No amnesty for Libby!

OT: From NPR:

Ft. Drum, NY, home of 10th Mountain Division, will no longer hold
individual memorial services for killed soldiers.
Instead, monthly collective services will be held.

Efficient government, you know.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 136

dakine01 @ 3:46 pm -

Tush from their Fandango! album.

Of course:

“Say Lawd take me downtown, I’m just lookin’ for some Tu-u-u-sh…”

And I actually have the ALBUM.

S.O.S. from MA @ 32

Yes, he wasn’t a perfect man; but never forget that his flaws are dwarfed — monstrously dwarfed — by those of the current “Administration.”

Never forget that. Never forget him.

RIP, JFK… :(

I get the comments like those whenever I bring up his name to someone who is a Bush supporter.

My response is that, faults and all,he was the LAST president to ask us to vote for the good of the country instead of for our own selfish interests.

THAT usually shuts them up.

Elliott @ 20 – must not forget Jailhouse Rock

RevDeb @ 136

OT question for the legal beagles:

Is there a way of undoing the damage that Monica and Schlozman have done to the DoJ? ie is there a way that the hires they brought in could be vetted again or have their appointments rescinded?

Just askin’

wondering if there’s a way to unsh*t the DoJ bed.

Excellent question, RevDeb. I don’t know that we are not stuck until 2009, at which point a massive purge will need to happen, in concert with the creation and implementation of a temporary HR system that reviews ALL placements whether political or career for suitability based on job history and past performance.

You can be sure there will be a hue and cry from the base in the basement of the right whining about the purge and how unfair it was to Gonzo…there is no getting around it save for complete transparency.

edit: just a reminder, IANAL — but I have had hiring/firing responsibilities before.

I am curious to see what Barbara and Victoria have written in support of Libby. Should be more than amusing.

JF @ 142

Who’s the guy on the right?

See my @107.

Mandrake @ 144

Bob Schacht @ 98

Maybe he’s a zombie? Doesn’t he also look a little like Novak?

Bob in HI

It has always been my contention that Novak and Perle were separated at birth.

too bad we didn’t keep them separated.

allan_in_upstate @ 146

OT: From NPR:

Ft. Drum, home of 10th Moutain Division, will no longer hold
individual memorial services for killed soldiers.
Instead, monthly collective services will be held.

Efficient government, you know.

Ft. Lewis in WA also.

AnRevDeb @ 136

OT question for the legal beagles:

Is there a way of undoing the damage that Monica and Schlozman have done to the DoJ? ie is there a way that the hires they brought in could be vetted again or have their appointments rescinded?

Just askin’

wondering if there’s a way to unsh*t the DoJ bed.

Anyone hired under the General Schedule is ‘on probation’ for the first 90 days of employment and can be fired during that time if their performance is inadequate.

For your first 3 years, you are “career conditional” which means you can be fired, but it will take more paperwork. (Do we know when Monica et al started hiring folks?)

After that it becomes much more difficult, but can be done.

Rules on removal vary depending on what schedule you were hired under — a lot of the higher-ups will leave when an Administration changes, too.

dakine01 @ 148

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 136

dakine01 @ 3:46 pm -

Tush from their Fandango! album.

Of course:

“Say Lawd take me downtown, I’m just lookin’ for some Tu-u-u-sh…”

And I actually have the ALBUM.

So, those dudes up top are tres hombres?

I wonder if Judy Miller wrote a letter.

Obviously the way to cut back on pollution is to have a meeting.

Bush called for the first in a series of meetings to begin this fall, bringing together countries identified as major emitters.

oddmommy @ 12:49 pm -

Please look at the Constitution’s 25th amendment to see what would happen if your wish were granted.

this is incredibly scary stuff, if there were ever evidence a person is mad check this out from think progress;

Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’
Georgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

Rayne @ 150

RevDeb @ 136

OT question for the legal beagles:

Is there a way of undoing the damage that Monica and Schlozman have done to the DoJ? ie is there a way that the hires they brought in could be vetted again or have their appointments rescinded?

Just askin’

wondering if there’s a way to unsh*t the DoJ bed.

Excellent question, RevDeb. I don’t know that we are not stuck until 2009, at which point a massive purge will need to happen, in concert with the creation and implementation of a temporary HR system that reviews ALL placements whether political or career for suitability based on job history and past performance.

You can be sure there will be a hue and cry from the base in the basement of the right whining about the purge and how unfair it was to Gonzo…there is no getting around it save for complete transparency.

edit: just a reminder, IANAL — but I have had hiring/firing responsibilities before.

I’m more worried about the career viruses and trojan horses that have been planted than the political appointments.

thanx for the response.

brendan @ 60

jane hamsher:

It’s “tuches”.

Wasn’t that the driving cat on SNL?

tommy yum @ 157

dakine01 @ 148

Of course:

“Say Lawd take me downtown, I’m just lookin’ for some Tu-u-u-sh…”

And I actually have the ALBUM.

So, those dudes up top are tres hombres?

They WISH. Tres hombres have a smidgen of blues based talent and showmanship. More like the Three Stooges.

Arca @ 163

brendan @ 60

jane hamsher:

It’s “tuches”.

Wasn’t that the driving cat on SNL?

Naw, that was Toonces.

allan_in_upstate @ 146

OT: From NPR:

Ft. Drum, NY, home of 10th Mountain Division, will no longer hold
individual memorial services for killed soldiers.
Instead, monthly collective services will be held.

Efficient government, you know.

They announced the same thing for Ft. Lewis this morning.

Sorry RevDeb, didn’t scroll down far enough.
*g*

looseheadprop @ 101

Rayne

Fencing? Do you mean that literally?

I’ve heard he runs, even the odd race or two and he has always been a hiker, but fencing?

I have such a hard time picturing that.

I’ve seen this guy play laywer’s league baseball and basketball and do not recall the kind on the balls of the feet balance it takes to fence.

Actually I think Fitz would be a great fencer. As one who fenced diligently for many years, I can say it’s more about mental acumen than physical ability. It’s really only the wet-behind-the-ears college fencers who try to overpower an opponent with physical ability. My salle (fencing club) always jokingly referred to fencing as “chess with sticks.”

Some of the toughest fencers I ever went up against were cagey “old fogies”. That old saw “age and treachery wins out over youth and enthusiasm” is true, at least when it comes to fencing.

RevDeb @ 162

Rayne @ 150

Excellent question, RevDeb. I don’t know that we are not stuck until 2009, at which point a massive purge will need to happen, in concert with the creation and implementation of a temporary HR system that reviews ALL placements whether political or career for suitability based on job history and past performance.

You can be sure there will be a hue and cry from the base in the basement of the right whining about the purge and how unfair it was to Gonzo…there is no getting around it save for complete transparency.

edit: just a reminder, IANAL — but I have had hiring/firing responsibilities before.

I’m more worried about the career viruses and trojan horses that have been planted than the political appointments.

perris @ 161

this is incredibly scary stuff, if there were ever evidence a person is mad check this out from think progress;

Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’
Georgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

check out my bold, that is a mad man if true

Brisingamen @ 49

Bluetoe @ 38

Does anyone know what Congress is doing in regards to Libby’s treason?

Libby’s treason? How about CHENEY’S treason — it came out during the trial that Cheney was the one who started the ball rolling!

Impeachment’s too good for them. They should have to face a firing squad, but I doubt there’s anyone out there with the stomach to call for it.

It would also be a bad idea because it would distract attention from BushCo’s crimes to whether or not it was right to execute him in such a manner.

Most here may be too young to remember the vast sense of national relief when Nixon resigned as president that our system of laws had triumphed. In fact, I was so impressed by the national mood at the time that I labelled it “Constitutionalism.” What we need is another Congressperson with the down-home eloquence of Sam Ervin expounding the virtues of our Constitution. Apart from Chris Dodd, why aren’t the Democrats doing a chorus-line tribute to our Constitution and how important it is, and how terrible it is what Presnitwit Bush is trampling on it?

Bob in HI

Diane @ 150

Elliott @ 20 – must not forget Jailhouse Rock

ooo definitely, that goes right on the list! thanks

Badwater @ 59

Eureka Springs @ 47

Hugh the following bothered me most.. From think progress on the same meeting

bold mine

Could someone mention to George H.W. Bush that it is well past the time for him to step in and rescue his son?

He already tried to with the Iraq Study thingy, and Shrub told him to take a hike.

Bob in HI

Jane Hamsher @ 128

emptywheel @ 106

You know, I’ve invented a very special form of torture for Jane (it’s my idea of a good way to help someone through chemo). I refused–absolutely refused–to name the name of a band that comes on the radio. Even with those Wilson brothers, I refused to name the band. (Mostly out of an inadequacy on my part–I get anxiety attacks when I’m asked to do that, and my brain just doesn’t remember band names or titiles, but it got to be a little fun after a while.)

So she’s probably feeling a real need to be around people who will note her musical allusions.

She’s so competitive. I kicked David Corn’s ass at the Libby trial with “name that band” and she knew I would win so she wouldn’t play.

Couldn’t even give poor chemo brain a break.

Oh no, chemo brain doesn’t get–or need–a break. I let my dad play XJESL in Scrabble one day and it ended up being his last game of Scrabble, which was his favorite game. It has to be tough love with cancer patients.

Those guys at the top look like something out of “night of the living dead”. And then there’s that handsome other Republican, McCain. All we need is Lon Chaney Jr. and Boris Karloff to round out the picture.

Bustednuckles @ 165

allan_in_upstate @ 146

OT: From NPR:

Ft. Drum, NY, home of 10th Mountain Division, will no longer hold
individual memorial services for killed soldiers.
Instead, monthly collective services will be held.

Efficient government, you know.

They announced the same thing for Ft. Lewis this morning.

Sounds like they can’t afford to have personnel tied up in a ‘memorial service.’ Hell, Defense/VA doesn’t have enough buglers to cover the WWII vets funerals and the honor guard situation isn’t great either.

allan_in_upstate @ 153

JF @ 142

Who’s the guy on the right?

See my @107.

That Woolsey, a “Scoop Jackson Democrat”, was Clinton’s CIA director tells you something about how deep and far back this goes.

Jane, MArcy: listen to you two.

Women are so competitive. We need more men around here.

allan_in_upstate @ 153

JF @ 142

Who’s the guy on the right?

See my @107.

Ah. Thanks. And agreed.

tommy yum @ 1:06 pm -

I had thought that Tush was on one of their earlier albums; I had to look it up to see which of their albums it was on.

The day before yesterday, I was listening on the radio to a track from a recent album from someone whom you know well :) – Katharine Whalen’s Dirty Little Secret. How do you like her album?

Bob Schacht,

To be fair there are a few others..like Waters, Kucinich, Feingold etc..

ooh ooh, Marcy has some brain candy:

My Name Is emptywheel and I Am an Oversight Hearings Addict

I must be. Because when I read at the Gavel that Jerry Nadler was going to start a series of hearings on The Constitution in Crisis, I immediately started having the following conversation inside my head:

Well, you’ll be in DC anyway, for the Libby sentencing on June 5. You could just stay two more days. I’m sure you can change your plane flight. Well, there’s the problem that your mother Maggie is going to visit, you meet her in the airport on Wednesday and you haven’t seen her for a very long time, but I wonder if she has made her plane reservations yet and …

go read the rest!

Mandrake @ 165

Arca @ 163

Wasn’t that the driving cat on SNL?

Naw, that was Toonces.

Right! Wonder if he wrote a letter for Scooter!

“yer honor- I know Mr. Libby intimately having served as a character in one of his books. I lived inside this man’s fevered brain for six months as he wrote his fantasies for posterity.
I’m hear ta tell ya- this is one fucked up dude. If ya put him in prison- NO ONE will be safe.

Respectfully,

Dah Bear

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 160

oddmommy @ 12:49 pm -

Please look at the Constitution’s 25th amendment to see what would happen if your wish were granted.

But the bushies don’t DO Constiution….

Bustednuckles @ 166

allan_in_upstate @ 146

OT: From NPR:

Ft. Drum, NY, home of 10th Mountain Division, will no longer hold
individual memorial services for killed soldiers.
Instead, monthly collective services will be held.

Efficient government, you know.

They announced the same thing for Ft. Lewis this morning.

During Vietnam the government didn’t even do a monthly, IIRC…

Pachacutec @ 177

Jane, MArcy: listen to you two.

Women are so competitive. We need more men around here.

Pump your brakes, Pach! You’re one step away from telling Jane to “take her Midol.”

Back away slowly. ;)

Rayne @ 134

looseheadprop @ 100

Rayne

Fencing? Do you mean that literally?

I’ve heard he runs, even the odd race or two and he has always been a hiker, but fencing?

I have such a hard time picturing that.

I’ve seen this guy play laywer’s league baseball and basketball and do not recall the kind on the balls of the feet balance it takes to fence.

No, I didn’t mean it literally. I did mean I had no clue what he did for stress management. I picture him attacking any sport or hobby like he did the Libby case — in which case, either fencing or knitting against the guy could be, um, hazardous.

Knitting. I have such a mental picture right now. Am giggling

Arca @ 163

brendan @ 60

jane hamsher:

It’s “tuches”.

Wasn’t that the driving cat on SNL?

toonces

Rayne @ 91

rwcole @ 80

Some think that it’s not a good idea to have a whacked out guy in the Oval Office.

I wouldn’t mind if the “whacked out” component involved Thoraz*ne…I suspect somebody’s been neglecting their meds for a long time.

‘Cause our wonderfuly simplistic DSM-IV uses external data for diagnoses wherever possible, Shrub’s meltdowns do give us clues about symptoms, and hence diagnoses.

Shrub clearly demonstrates episodes of elevated mood (irritability and/or inappropriate jocularity) and labile affect, dysinhibition (a certain Chancellor comes to mind), grandiose ideation, pressured speech, and flight of ideas. Recent media accounts have also described depressed mood.

The foregoing is wholly consistent with bipolar spectrum disorder.

Fancy name for manic-depressive disorder (or right close).

Some patients with bipolar disorder exhibit mood-congruent psychotic symptoms in severe episodes of affective disorder.

Hence some folks with bipolar disorder may experience hallucinations or grandiose delusions during episodes of mania.

If I had to choose meds for Shrub, I’d want to offer a mood stabilizer (daily use). But I’d also want to be able treat manic epsidoes and or psychotic symptoms that broke through the mood stablizers – and I’d be trying to persuade Manic George – who just happened to be President – to take a new med.

“It’s just an antipsychotic, Mr. President.”

Hmmm.

Next choice – monotherapy with an antipsychotic. Not my first choice due to side effects, but oftern the least bad course in patients with severe disease and no insight.

For Gorgeous George, I’d steer clear of the first generation antipsychotics (Thorazine) [weight gain and altered gait] – and second generation (Haldol) [very distinct observable side effcts in the form of unpredictable muscle movements can suddenly arise. Rare - but it does happen. Not good for the State Dinners.]

That would leave me with third generation antipsychotics, many of which raise blood sugar, weight, and cholesterol. Buff George wouldn’t go for it.

One member of the class – apripazole – is least likely to cause the metabolic side effects and is so non-sedating it needs to be taken in the AM.

If I were Shrub’s shrink, I’d probably be giving that (fortunately, it could also be injected when needed).

I will conclude my Dr. Frist imitation by snuggling with my cats.

With whom I have lived for many years.

PS

1) yes, I am speculating about diagnoses in a public figure.

2) “only forensic psychiatrists should opine on this – you’re a charlatan”.

yawn. Burston-Marsteller playbook.

(hey – their top guy chair is Hill’s campaign buddy. big surprise there)

3) “You can’t diagnose at a distance”.

Really? That explains it – I keep trying to do it when new patients are in the waiting room, and it never works.

I’m so relieved. I was starting to think my telepathy was off.

Elliot, my contribution to your Libby tribute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuveSpFCOg0

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 179

tommy yum @ 1:06 pm -

I had thought that Tush was on one of their earlier albums; I had to look it up to see which of their albums it was on.

The day before yesterday, I was listening on the radio to a track from a recent album from someone whom you know well :) – Katharine Whalen’s Dirty Little Secret. How do you like the album?

Haven’t heard the album, Stephen, but I like the title track.

Lot of water under that bridge, and (in case I sound arrogant) I don’t even listen to my own albums!

I’m amazed this isn’t getting a reaction from anyone;

Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’
Georgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

this is a mad man, I think waxman needs to subpeona the people that made those statements to find out if bush really did say that and act like that

if true this is a man insane

More plotting?

White House: Bush, Olmert to hold summit on June 19 in Washington

If only the blathering, delusional wingnuts really were waking up, but I suspect most of them remain impervious to inconvenient facts. Seems to go hand in hand with their special mix of intellectual dishonesty, venom, and shamelss propaganda.

RevDeb @ 137

OT question for the legal beagles:

Is there a way of undoing the damage that Monica and Schlozman have done to the DoJ? ie is there a way that the hires they brought in could be vetted again or have their appointments rescinded?

Just askin’

wondering if there’s a way to unsh*t the DoJ bed.

They are conditional empoyees for the first 3 years, after that full civil service. But it would be disasterous for moral. I have a hard time picturing that happening.

Being an UASA is darwinianly hard work. If they are not up to snuff, many of them will leave of their own accord as soon as nice big law firm comes along.

They will have this fancy, undeserved, line on their resume thanks to Monica, but I doubt they will stay long

tommy yum @ 157

dakine01 @ 148

Of course:

“Say Lawd take me downtown, I’m just lookin’ for some Tu-u-u-sh…”

And I actually have the ALBUM.

So, those dudes up top are tres hombres?

3 amigos

tommy yum @ 186

Pachacutec @ 177

Jane, MArcy: listen to you two.

Women are so competitive. We need more men around here.

Pump your brakes, Pach! You’re one step away from telling Jane to “take her Midol.”

Back away slowly. ;)

No, Pach is absolutely right here.

Marcy is way too competitive.

RevDeb @ 181

ooh ooh, Marcy has some brain candy:

My Name Is emptywheel and I Am an Oversight Hearings Addict

I must be. Because when I read at the Gavel that Jerry Nadler was going to start a series of hearings on The Constitution in Crisis, I immediately started having the following conversation inside my head:

go read the rest!

I’m just gonna be gettin’ all sorts of early b’day presents next week! Looks like the only thing missing from Nadler’s list is the National Security Directive the Chimpenfuhrer recently signed allowing him to gain dictator powers at the national emergency of his choice…

perris @ 192

I’m amazed this isn’t getting a reaction from anyone;

Report: In Meeting, ‘Wild-Eyed’ Bush Thumped Chest While Repeating ‘I Am The President!’
Georgie Anne Geyer writes today in the Dallas Morning News about President Bush’s strange behavior during a recent meeting with “[f]riends of his from Texas.”

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.

Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

this is a mad man, I think waxman needs to subpeona the people that made those statements to find out if bush really did say that and act like that

if true this is a man insane

Subpoena the Secret Service about the “pretzel”. I think Barney was an embellishment rather than an actual witness, by the way.

Jane!
707!
Coca-C*la on keyboard…

Oklahoma kiddo @ 174

Those guys at the top look like something out of “night of the living dead”. And then there’s that handsome other Republican, McCain. All we need is Lon Chaney Jr. and Boris Karloff to round out the picture.

LOL!

But, as for attractive Publicans, you left out plastic Mitt.

Jane, you’re servin’, but Marcy’s avoiding the summons.

Ed*ard Teller,
I left you a note @ #78.

oddmommy @ 111

My shrinky sense wants to go to bed and pull the covers over its couch.

as a shrinky, is there some procedure by which you could have Prez Tarzan declared legally incompetent…….and COMMITTED? He sure is a danger to others.

oddmommy, involuntary civil committment procedures vary from state to state.

I’d love to know the DC procedures and criteria.

Don’t think we’ll see them used.

ThinkProgress: Like Goodling, Schlozman Politicized Hiring At Justice Dept’s Civil Rights Division

During her testimony before the House Judiciary Committee last week, former Gonzales aide Monica Goodling admitted that she had “crossed the lines” of the law by screening the political backgrounds of applicants for non-political jobs at the Justice Department. Yesterday, the DoJ announced that it was expanding its investigation of Goodling’s partisan hiring practices to include “scrutiny of hiring in the Civil Rights Division, which oversees voting rights.”

A central figure in the expanded probe is Bradley Schlozman, a former Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division currently serving in the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys. He is set to appear next Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Schlozman is reported to have repeatedly inquired about applicants’ political affiliations

(snip)

looseheadprop @ 195

They are conditional empoyees for the first 3 years, after that full civil service. But it would be disasterous for moral. I have a hard time picturing that happening.

Being an UASA is dawinianly hard work. If they are not up to snuff, many of them will leave of their own accord as soon as nice big law firm comes along.

They will have this fancy, undeserved, line on their resume thanks to Monica, but I doubt they will stay long

Speaking as a Federal employee for 29 years, there are ways to subtly encourage folks to move on to other jobs. There are jobs in every office that no one likes to do — if you find yourself being always assigned to do those duties, your future is pretty clear.

If we can’t get rid of them, they get shuttled into positions where they can do no harm.

That’s what I’ve observed, but YMMV.

Dr. Murphy and perris,

Clearly the guy is going further and further out on his limb. Look to see that magic box he wore under his coat during the Kerry debates re-appear soon. I thought at the time it was a receiver to give him answers, but maybe it is a medication delivery system.

brendan @ 176

allan_in_upstate @ 153

See my @107.

That Woolsey, a “Scoop Jackson Democrat”, was Clinton’s CIA director tells you something about how deep and far back this goes.

And while we’re all taking a stroll down memory lane,
let’s recall that Les Aspin, Clinton’s first Secretary of Defense,
was forced out of office almost instantly when *19* soldiers died in the Blackhawk Down incident.
That would have been like a rounding error for Rumsfeld.

Many of the Republicans who brayed for Aspin’s scalp are still in office, or running for it.

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 205

ThinkProgress: Like Goodling, Schlozman Politicized Hiring At Justice Dept’s Civil Rights Division

During her testimony before the House Judiciary Committee last week, former Gonzales aide Monica Goodling admitted that she had “crossed the lines” of the law by screening the political backgrounds of applicants for non-political jobs at the Justice Department. Yesterday, the DoJ announced that it was expanding its investigation of Goodling’s partisan hiring practices to include “scrutiny of hiring in the Civil Rights Division, which oversees voting rights.”

A central figure in the expanded probe is Bradley Schlozman, a former Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division currently serving in the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys. He is set to appear next Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Schlozman is reported to have repeatedly inquired about applicants’ political affiliations

(snip)

Did she testify that she did not know Schlozman? I wonder who told him to do what he did? Remember, they all serve at the pleasure of the president, which means they did his bidding.

Brisingamen @ 175

Bustednuckles @ 165

They announced the same thing for Ft. Lewis this morning.

Sounds like they can’t afford to have personnel tied up in a ‘memorial service.’ Hell, Defense/VA doesn’t have enough buglers to cover the WWII vets funerals and the honor guard situation isn’t great either.

Well, lemonads from lemons thought here (don’t hurt me):

It’s sad anyway you slice it. But I think a collective memorial service or funeral is an effective way to get the human cost of this war into our collective conscience. I know I’m speaking to the choir here, but more negative visuals to put on the Chimp’s TV please.

Hope this doesn’t sound insensitive. It’s just the opposite. I’m so appalled at the madness right now.

kirk murphy @ 204

oddmommy @ 111

as a shrinky, is there some procedure by which you could have Prez Tarzan declared legally incompetent…….and COMMITTED? He sure is a danger to others.

oddmommy, involuntary civil committment procedures vary from state to state.

I’d love to know the DC procedures and criteria.

Don’t think we’ll see them used.

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

Pachacutec @ 177

Jane, MArcy: listen to you two.

Women are so competitive. We need more men around here.

You have no idea the things they do.

allan_in_upstate #208:

And Judith Miller was fucking Les Aspin. And he’s deader than David Kelly. Small world.

Lots of people servin ta pleasure the president- I’m surprised that he isn’t happier.

kirk murphy @ 189: I’ve always suspected that Chimpy was being kept medicated at all times. Sometimes meds don’t work as well as other times, esp. when the condition is severe, hence the chest-beating episode. But IANAP!

PS: You’re giving folks with bipolar disorder a bad rap! ;)

LS @ 190

Elliot, my contribution to your Libby tribute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuveSpFCOg0

thanks, I’ll add that one, a little yodeling is good.
He’s in the jailhouse now
He’s in the jailhouse now

Ed*ard Teller @ 207

Dr. Murphy and perris,

Clearly the guy is going further and further out on his limb. Look to see that magic box he wore under his coat during the Kerry debates re-appear soon. I thought at the time it was a receiver to give him answers, but maybe it is a medication delivery system.

I believe the technical term is “cognitive prosthetic.”

oddmommy @ 211

kirk murphy @ 204

oddmommy, involuntary civil committment procedures vary from state to state.

I’d love to know the DC procedures and criteria.

Don’t think we’ll see them used.

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

I think Stephen Parrish touched on the results of this when he mentioned the 25th Amendment up thread…It would mean Darth is in charge which would be no improvement whatsoever.

brendan @ 199

perris @ 192

I’m amazed this isn’t getting a reaction from anyone;

this is a mad man, I think waxman needs to subpeona the people that made those statements to find out if bush really did say that and act like that

if true this is a man insane

Subpoena the Secret Service about the “pretzel”. I think Barney was an embellishment rather than an actual witness, by the way.

It makes Reagan’s Alzheimer’s look positively adorable, managable and preferable. Cry, Bush Sr., cry. Cry for our nation…

brendan @ 213

allan_in_upstate #208:

And Judith Miller was fucking Les Aspin. And he’s deader than David Kelly. Small world.

Should we start a Six Degrees of Judith Miller?
And then let the CDC know the results?

dakine01 @ 218

oddmommy @ 211

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

I think Stephen Parrish touched on the results of this when he mentioned the 25th Amendment up thread…It would mean Darth is in charge which would be no improvement whatsoever.

oh NUTS.
: (
Back to the drawing board……

Arca @ 182

Mandrake @ 165

Naw, that was Toonces.

Right! Wonder if he wrote a letter for Scooter!

He did but he crashed on his way to the post office.

Mandrake @ 200

Oklahoma kiddo @ 174

Those guys at the top look like something out of “night of the living dead”. And then there’s that handsome other Republican, McCain. All we need is Lon Chaney Jr. and Boris Karloff to round out the picture.

LOL!

But, as for attractive Publicans, you left out plastic Mitt.

Tweety is going all ga ga over him. As is Bill O.

rwcole @ 214

Lots of people servin ta pleasure the president- I’m surprised that he isn’t happier.

He’s getting anxious to bring in the spring brush crop on his brush ranch.

do-si-do @ 210

Well, lemonads from lemons thought here (don’t hurt me):

It’s sad anyway you slice it. But I think a collective memorial service or funeral is an effective way to get the human cost of this war into our collective conscience. I know I’m speaking to the choir here, but more negative visuals to put on the Chimp’s TV please.

Hope this doesn’t sound insensitive. It’s just the opposite. I’m so appalled at the madness right now.

Actually, I’m of the opinion that we don’t see enough ‘negative visuals.’ I think if the MSM would cover the coffins arriving at Dover, and the funerals in the various towns, we’d see more outrage.

If I were running a major news network (CNN, I’m looking at YOU) I’d run those visuals every day at the bottom of every hour.

Arca @ 182
Mandrake @ 165

Naw, that was Toonces.
—–

Right! Wonder if he wrote a letter for Scooter!

Oh, damnitall, why didn’t I think of that?

If I’d only had an inkling it would come down to this, I would have sent a letter signed, “Toonces”.

Sheesh. Maybe for the next sentencing…

Not to be blatantly sexist, but I would imagine smooching Valerie Plame Wilson’s tuches would be more reward than punishment. Ever such a joy be denied.

Here’s what big brain Henry Kissinger has for us today:

Iraq desperately needs a political solution in the short term to make the war more manageable for the next president.

Why don’t they just wait until the war is over and then have one BIG funera- economies of scale and all- and Clusterfuck can come!

allan_in_upstate #220

She certainly is lethal to the Middle Eastern countries she visits.

oddmommy @ 221

dakine01 @ 218

I think Stephen Parrish touched on the results of this when he mentioned the 25th Amendment up thread…It would mean Darth is in charge which would be no improvement whatsoever.

oh NUTS.
: (
Back to the drawing board……

PELOSI 2007 will help solve our problems

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

Brisingamen @ 225

do-si-do @ 210

Well, lemonads from lemons thought here (don’t hurt me):

It’s sad anyway you slice it. But I think a collective memorial service or funeral is an effective way to get the human cost of this war into our collective conscience. I know I’m speaking to the choir here, but more negative visuals to put on the Chimp’s TV please.

Hope this doesn’t sound insensitive. It’s just the opposite. I’m so appalled at the madness right now.

Actually, I’m of the opinion that we don’t see enough ‘negative visuals.’ I think if the MSM would cover the coffins arriving at Dover, and the funerals in the various towns, we’d see more outrage.

If I were running a major news network (CNN, I’m looking at YOU) I’d run those visuals every day at the bottom of every hour.

absolutely right. Nothing brings this horror home better than coffins, graves, and photos of those innocent young faces.

God I HATE these people. May they rot in hell for all eternity, ALL of them.

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

SEC, FEMA, DOJ, FDA, CDC…

Bustednuckles @ 79

OT
If Ed*ard Teller is around, Howie has a piece on the massive scale of Alaskan corruption.
He probably already knows all about it but heres the link anyway.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspo…..white.html

Thanks, Bustedknuckles. Here’s a map of Girdwood, the sea level ski town where both Ted Stevens (R -Toobz) and Lisa Murkowski (R – thanks, dad!) maintain their Alaska residences. Note that the streets there are layed out as a series of tubes, and the bridges lead to nowhere.

Howie, Marcy? Marcy, Howie? I can’t decide which of those two writers amazes me more, but both have stayed on top of this yet-to-bloom story better than any blogs other than TPMMuckraker. All three blogs – nexthurrah, downwithtyranny and tpmmuckraker show clearly that information coming in through comments to the essays is as important as the essays themselves. sorta like here…

“Valerie Wilson Sues C.I.A. Over Memoir”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05…..me.html?hp

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

Oh yes they can!!!!

kirk murphy @ 1:25 pm and oddmommy -

Let’s look at a portion of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

(snip)

Please note who would become President if oddmommy’s wish, posted earlier on this thread, were granted; that’s what I was referring to in one of my earlier comments on this thread.

oddmommy @ 211

kirk murphy @ 204

oddmommy, involuntary civil committment procedures vary from state to state.

I’d love to know the DC procedures and criteria.

Don’t think we’ll see them used.

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

oddmommy, i’m utterly ignorant of military regs.

Shrub appears to be quite symptomatic, but while his Admin flaunts Congress, I’m not quite certain how the APA is going to force him to submit to formal psychiatric evaluation.

For a DC shrink to walk in to civil court (or mental health court or whatever the local euphemism is) and say “I’ve never seen the Prez as a patient – but based on TV – haul him in” would certainly be intersting.

Let’s say the shrink – and we – got lucky and the judge said “what the hell” and they sent our papers to force an eval.

I’m not certaain we’re under the rule of law anymore.

Actually, I’m certaain we no longer are.

The WH med team travelling with Cheney were good enoug to stabilize a severely wounded elederly man in the field and keep him alive while they bounced of dozens of miles to a hospital.

And back at the ranch sat the 16,000 foot airstrip and the VP’s medevac craft.

Transport by ground with air evac right there was inexcusable (the patient required immediate trauma center care). That wasn’t a physician decision – it was a political decision.

Shrub’s psych illness may yet topple his regime, but I don’t think a shrink with comittment papers will be giving the push.

(If that ever changes, I hope St. Elizabeth’s will be hiring.)

cskendrick has alot to say on Bushs’ powers. a long read but a bit about what we all fear.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/31/83655/8369

Pachacutec @ 177

Jane, MArcy: listen to you two.

Women are so competitive. We need more men around here.

Yeah, and what’s a XJESL — some kinda special Jaguar?

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

jesugodalmighty

Bluetoe @ 237

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

The only even semi-positive about Fred runnin’ is Dobson has already slammed his candidacy. Thogh that’s prol’ly subject to reality as we get closer to election season. If nothing else, it should be interesting to see the reaction when Mrs T and the puppies show up at Dobson or Pat Robertson’s churches…

oddmommy @ 211

kirk murphy @ 204

oddmommy, involuntary civil committment procedures vary from state to state.

I’d love to know the DC procedures and criteria.

Don’t think we’ll see them used.

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

In the military, a commander can be fired by HIS boss very rapidly. Officers have been there one day and shipped off to some remote base the next without anyone knowing why.

The Dr. couldn’t do something on his own but by bringing it to the attention of a superior in the officer’s chain of command, the ax can fall really quickly, if a good logical case was made.

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

dakine01 @ 244

Bluetoe @ 237

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

The only even semi-positive about Fred runnin’ is Dobson has already slammed his candidacy. Thogh that’s prol’ly subject to reality as we get closer to election season. If nothing else, it should be interesting to see the reaction when Mrs T and the puppies show up at Dobson or Pat Robertson’s churches…

Now THAT’s funny !

LS @ 238

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

Oh yes they can!!!!

No, I bet Jane could tell us if a script like the world today were walked into a producer’s office, with all the twists and turns we’ve seen, if that script could get produced without significant re-write…

Mrs. Thompson’s pair about ta enter the campaign–may the best trophy wife win!!

Bluetoe @ 237

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

The self-contradiction in this statement illustrates a myth that gets batted around, i.e., that the MSM is about entertainment and profits. What could possibly have been more entertaining than a treason scandal with a beautiful blonde at its center? The MSM is about political objectives, and it’s not the public’s fault this crap gets shoved down their throats.

rwcole @ 248

Mrs. Thompson’s pair about ta enter the campaign–may the best trophy wife win!!

I confess ignorance. Who is she? Got a linky to a pic?

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 239

kirk murphy @ 1:25 pm and oddmommy -

Let’s look at a portion of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

(snip)

Please note who would become President if oddmommy’s wish, posted earlier on this thread, were granted; that’s what I was referring to in one of my earlier comments on this thread.

I know, I know! Just trying to find a LOOPHOLE of some sort…..IAAL, that’s what I DO.

Rudy responds:

“Our pair beats yer pair- hands down”.

Thanks, Bustedknuckles. Here’s a map of Girdwood, the sea level ski town where both Ted Stevens (R -Toobz) and Lisa Murkowski (R – thanks, dad!) maintain their Alaska residences. Note that the streets there are layed out as a series of tubes, and the bridges lead to nowhere.

The whole town is about the size of a modest subdivision!

Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 239

kirk murphy @ 1:25 pm and oddmommy -

Let’s look at a portion of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

(snip)

Please note who would become President if oddmommy’s wish, posted earlier on this thread, were granted; that’s what I was referring to in one of my earlier comments on this thread.

so we go to the big “I” and gets ourselves some Pelosi in the White House

And now DeLay’s playing “holier than thou” by claiming his commission of adultery was “purer” than Newt Gingrich’s!

Guys, you’re supposed to be Christians, what part of “thou shalt not commit adultery” don’t you understand?

JF @ 246

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

You are making this up now, aren’t you? (she pleads)

Kirk @ 189 – remembering my old mental health working days, thought Lithium was the drug of choice for bipolars.

RevDeb @ 251

rwcole @ 248

Mrs. Thompson’s pair about ta enter the campaign–may the best trophy wife win!!

I confess ignorance. Who is she? Got a linky to a pic?

linkie

brendan @ 250

Bluetoe @ 237

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

The self-contradiction in this statement illustrates a myth that gets batted around, i.e., that the MSM is about entertainment and profits. What could possibly have been more entertaining than a treason scandal with a beautiful blonde at its center? The MSM is about political objectives, and it’s not the public’s fault this crap gets shoved down their throats.

Got to agree with ya on Plame–the story line was too good for MSM to turn down, except they got pushed away and stayed pushed, like the lapdogs they have so unfortunately become.

Plenty of weaknesses in the MSM of their own making, such as infotainment bias, but they let themselves become accomplices to this administration’s abuse of power.

Elliott @ 257

JF @ 246

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

You are making this up now, aren’t you? (she pleads)

It’s the lead story on CNN.com

Someone took a photo of a billboard equating 9/11 with Iraq, set up as a “welcome home” tribute to a returning serviceman. It’s disgusting to see this kind of ignorance rampant in the heartland.

RevDeb @ 181

ooh ooh, Marcy has some brain candy:

My Name Is emptywheel and I Am an Oversight Hearings Addict

I must be. Because when I read at the Gavel that Jerry Nadler was going to start a series of hearings on The Constitution in Crisis, I immediately started having the following conversation inside my head:

go read the rest!

I did! Awesome! Just what I have been praying for!!! Let the sun shine in! Let the Truth be known throughout all the land! Let Justice flow like an unstoppable river! And by all means, let us have emptywheel and Christy (and Jane and Pach and. . . .) commentaries on the proceedings!

Bob in HI
Doing the Snoopy dance!

Richard Perle’s soul…

dakine01 @ 261

Elliott @ 257

You are making this up now, aren’t you? (she pleads)

It’s the lead story on CNN.com

It’s just a coincidence, a big coincidence. By the way how did Andrew Speaker pick up a drug resistance strain of TB..

“thou shalt not commit adultery while impeaching the Clenis for same” — DeLay

FYI, new thread

dakine01 @ 258

RevDeb @ 251

I confess ignorance. Who is she? Got a linky to a pic?

linkie

O.M.G. Words don’t begin . . . . can’t wait to see the holier than thous shout his praises and welcome the “little wife.”

Elliott @ 257

JF @ 246

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

You are making this up now, aren’t you? (she pleads)

S’truth, if CNN’s to be believed.

Rev Deb–Yep- we’re not in “cloth coat republican” anymore.

Mandrake @ 215

kirk murphy @ 189: I’ve always suspected that Chimpy was being kept medicated at all times. Sometimes meds don’t work as well as other times, esp. when the condition is severe, hence the chest-beating episode. But IANAP!

PS: You’re giving folks with bipolar disorder a bad rap! ;)

Mandrake – gracious me – I do apologize.

For most folks with bipolar spectrum disorder, they will not have psychotic symptoms, and I was really careless not to specify that.

Also “bipolar spectrum disorder diagnoses” will include lots of folks whoose symtoms never affect their behavior or judgement.

Because I’ve seen patients in community mental health clinics and med schools I’m more likely to see folks withmore severe symptoms, so even my description of RX use for patients with no insight could give the misimpression this is usual.

Mandrake, thanks for helping me to see this. I goofed.

_ _ _ _

oddmommy, when we’re finding loopholes, I hope you’ll be on our team :)

good on ya. please keep looking.

As Cheney meets criteria for Antisocial PD and we’ve discussed Shrub, Section 4 is really an obstacle here.

Bummer.

Can ya imagine the first interview with Mrs. Thompson? “So- did ya raise them things yerself?”

rwcole @ 271

Can ya imagine the first interview with Mrs. Thompson? “So- did ya raise them things yerself?”

I’m remembering the interview Colbert did with Mary Cary as she went to a WH dinner. Seems appropro.

JF @ 246

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

Would this be an appropriate time to mention the numerous deaths of top microbiologists after the anthrax attacks? Maybe coincidence, maybe something sinister. It’s impossible not to think so anymore.

dakine01 @ 218

oddmommy @ 211

but isn’t there some military thing where a commanding officer deemed to be incompetent by a dr. can be removed from command??

I think Stephen Parrish touched on the results of this when he mentioned the 25th Amendment up thread…It would mean Darth is in charge which would be no improvement whatsoever.

All the more reason to impeach Cheney!

Bob in HI

JPL @ 265

dakine01 @ 261

It’s the lead story on CNN.com

It’s just a coincidence, a big coincidence. By the way how did Andrew Speaker pick up a drug resistance strain of TB..

must be a coincidence, sure.
wow, I must say, now I have lost faith in the doctors of the CDC
BushCo is hazardous to our health.
don’t suppose the family connections were why he was alllowed to go to abroad.

Rev

How’d that one go? Missed it.

Lots of americans are gonna be VERY surprised by the First Lady Candidate I expect.

albert fall at #260:

For me, the mechanism of how the printed press pursue their political agenda is more apparent, as institutions like the NYT or the Post are dynastic ones where individuals have great control, and where schemers like Sulzberger and Miller or Hiatt and his stable are now obvious. TV news is more opaque to me, not least of all because I’m too viscerally repulsed by it to let it in my home.

RevDeb @ 268

dakine01 @ 258

linkie

O.M.G. Words don’t begin . . . . can’t wait to see the holier than thous shout his praises and welcome the “little wife.”

and I’d say there’s a notable voting bloc from The First Wives Club, eh not?

rwcole @ 276

Rev

How’d that one go? Missed it.

Lots of americans are gonna be VERY surprised by the First Lady Candidate I expect.

It was before Colbert had his own show and I think some time around the 04 election. Mary Cary and her manager paid $5K to go to a WH dinner and Colbert did the interview. Pizza delivery guy interrupted. One of the best ever!

Do you think Marc Rich wrote a letter in
defense of Scoots?

Diane @ 258

Kirk @ 189 – remembering my old mental health working days, thought Lithium was the drug of choice for bipolars.

Hi Diane!

Still the “gold standard” (anticonvulsants and antipsychotics are the other two choices).

With Shrub’s brush fetish and lithium’s narrow theraputic index, Li would be a challenge.

Unlike the vast majority of folkks with bipolar disorder, Shrub is dangerous.

The only effective meds to rapidly end acute episodes would be antipsychotics, hence my reverie about use of monotherapy for Shrub.

To put anoother way, he has such poor insight and such oppositional dynamics with any authority figures I’m not confident I could trust to him start an additional RX in an acute episode – and his acute episode could mean WWIII.

Dr. Bert Brown – NIMH head from Kennedy through Carter – ran the University where I went to Med school, and I got to see him more than a little through the med student govt.

He’s a good person and a good doc.

Wish he were taking care of Shrub.

Glad I’m not on that team myself.

kirk murphy @171: Aww, I was just havin’ a bit o’ fun with ya.

Oh and BTW, read my lips – covert under IIPA. …

That ass-kiss receiving line should come with a random sidekick hazard.

Bluetoe @ 237

Not only does K. Rove want Thompson to run but the MSM is just as excited. They are no longer members of the 4th Estate but merely adjuncts of the entertainment industry. Thompson’s a celebrity, with a trophy wife and even some political experience. It’s a story made in heaven for a media more concerned with Lohan and Rosie than Cheney and treason.

That’s right. Thompson will be compared to Reagan. He will be the “new” Reagan. And they will rename the terminal at Reagan National airport, Thompson Terminal. The guy is unbeatable. He could even bring back George Allen as VP or Jim Gilmore or Jeb Bush. Yep, it’s going to be Thompson/Bush and George Bush as Ambassador to Iraq, where he is kidnapped and disappears forever. With a massive search for the former President through out every desert. He is later found to be a prisoner of Bin Laden.

Moral of the story: don’t fly through DC.

Did Libby make the 5 PM deadline?

Prairie Sunshine @ 50

Bush press event right now.

Megan Sullivan…is this the Rove aide? Shipping her to Baghdad…important duties…Merkin freedom.

And just a tad out of reach of Congressional investigating committees?

What, are they hoping she’ll die over there in an (inadvertent and regrettable) incident, so she can’t spill the beans on Rover?

did you see that Valerie sued the CIA?

rwcole @ 99

Facing down his opponents with steely resolve- George W. Bush faced the class of sixth graders and bellowed “I’m the fuckin WARTIME President”!!!!

OMG, that is hilarious. LOL LMAO
But wait, oh no, it’s horrible. He’s the nincompoop-in-chief.

brendan @ 176

allan_in_upstate @ 153

See my @107.

That Woolsey, a “Scoop Jackson Democrat”, was Clinton’s CIA director tells you something about how deep and far back this goes.

The Clinton administration was infected with a lot of Republicans. There was Woolsey, Cohen at Defense, DLC Tenet at CIA, Panetta (R turned D) chief of staff, Rubin (Wall Street) at Treasury, Greenspan at the Fed, Dick Morris on politics and some others. It’s a wonder poor ol’ Bill survived as well as he did.

Not bad for a Republican-lite admin.

Now we need a really Democratic administration.

brendan @ 234

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

SEC, FEMA, DOJ, FDA, CDC…

Don’t forget DoD, NSA, CIA and others which have been royally screwed.

JF @ 246

dakine01 @ 232

OT from CNN, TB guy is a lawyer and his father-in-law works at CDC.

I have nothing more to say, ‘cept ya can’t make this up.

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

Strikes me that the person most at risk here is his new wife, the daughter of the man who works at the CDC.

dakine01 @ 10

Last night LooseHeadProp said we need to be specifically on the lookout for the public officials using their official letterhead on these letters.

It would be real nice if the letters are released on Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Just reading through them would be an early b’day present for me! (next Friday, 6/8)

And oh BTW, JANE YOU ROCK!!!

Aren’t they redacting the addresses??

Can we be sure that if they are on official letterhead we will be able to see that and let the chips fall where they may?

looseheadprop @ 187

Rayne @ 134

No, I didn’t mean it literally. I did mean I had no clue what he did for stress management. I picture him attacking any sport or hobby like he did the Libby case — in which case, either fencing or knitting against the guy could be, um, hazardous.

Knitting. I have such a mental picture right now. Am giggling

I hope I’m not breaking the margins with this. I’m EPU’d to the tenth power. At the same time, I used to own a yarn shop. I’d be more than happy to teach America’s Hottest Prosecutor to knit. Of course, I’m just making this offer as a public service.

-S

dakine01 @ 25

OT -
Jane did you see this from today’s Boston Globe? A malpractice lawsuit wound being settled out of court. A blogger using the pseudonym of Flea was the defendant and he got called out in court after having blogged disparagingly about the plaintiffs legal team as well as discussing defense strategy.

Stupid is a term that comes to mind…

And the attorney doing the questioning, Ms. Mulvey, is a graduate of Larry Velvel’s Massachussetts School of Law, a law school which the ABA refuses to accredit, unlike Pat Robertson’s Regent University Law School, or Jesus’s School of Law.

puppethead @ 274

JF @ 246

At the CDC, as a microbiologist studying TB.

Would this be an appropriate time to mention the numerous deaths of top microbiologists after the anthrax attacks? Maybe coincidence, maybe something sinister. It’s impossible not to think so anymore.

Those deaths eliminated microbiologists who were leaders in the field, people who could have sequenced the anthrax used in the attacks with specificity removing any doubt where it originated. They would also have been able to identify where the tularemia that was present in DC during the protests in September 2005 came from.

That’s why they’re gone.

Vladimir Putin isn’t the only intelligence-community connected chief executive who is not above killing off the opposition.

Kind of like an early 60s attitude, you know, Malcolm’s “by any means necessary?”

Maybe the TB guy is person “0″ for his father-in-law at the CDC and it is one of those lightbulb-bursting -in -a-subway-car experiments to see how fast and how far the stuff spreads.

Or, worse yet, that she lied under oath (not true) about not sending Joe Wilson to Niger

Plame to the House, under oath: “I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him.”

Plame, in a February 12, 2002 memo to her superiors titled “Iraq-related Nuclear Report Makes a Splash”:

So where do I fit in? As you may recall, [redacted] of CP/[office 2] recently approached my husband to possibly use his contacts in Niger to investigate [a separate Niger matter]. After many fits and starts, [redacted] finally advised that the station wished to pursue this with liaison. My husband is willing to help, if it makes sense, but no problem if not. End of story.

Now, with this report, it is clear that the IC is still wondering what is going on… my husband has good relations with both the PM and the former minister of mines, not to mention lots of French contacts, both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity. To be frank with you, I was somewhat embarrassed by the agency’s sloppy work last go-round, and I am hesitant to suggest anything again. However, [my husband] may be in a position to assist. Therefore, request your thoughts on what, if anything, to pursue here. Thank you for your time on this.

Source, page 207 of the recent Senate Intelligence Committee report on pre-war intelligence, published on line here (emphasis added).

Well, maybe when she testified under oath to the contrary, she just didn’t remember what she’d written.

How’d that excuse work out for Libby, anyway?

Alex @ 298

Plame to the House, under oath: “I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him.”
[ . . . ]
Well, maybe when she testified under oath to the contrary, she just didn’t remember what she’d written.

How’d that excuse work out for Libby, anyway?

Kind of a stretch to portray anything here as initiating a recommendation or even a suggestion, no?

Alex, did you even bother to read it? It says, and YOU quote, ” As you may recall, [redacted] of CP/[office 2] recently approached my husband to possibly use his contacts in Niger to investigate [a separate Niger matter]. After many fits and starts, [redacted] finally advised that the station wished to pursue this with liaison.”

Not “…I approached” or “…you asked me to approach”

Read for comprehension much? I didn’t think so.