oh, and do you need the two periods at the end of the title? you really mean “us”, right?

Bush has let slip enough PETN to blow up 16,000 airliners (5.6 metric tons).

Maybe Halliburton has it. Certainly there’s no way the US would have five spy satellites watching every square inch of Iraq, and would have watched this stuff being hauled away, pickup truck after pickup truck.

Dick Cheney’s Walmart of Terror.

All by accident. Oops. It’s the pottery barn nightmare.

Arming the enemy, btw, is the definition of TREASON.

Here’s a response I hope Paul in LA will see to the EPUed comment he made in yesterday’s Rahm thread disputing claims of involvement or benefits to Israel in our actions”

I did NOT dispute claims of involvement. The rightwing neocon aligned Israeli gov’t is up to their necks in taking extremist PNAC risks (undoubtedly for huge payoffs).

My point was that Rep. Emanuel is NOT a dual-citizen as you or someone claimed. Furthermore, Rep. Emanuel’s relationship to Israeli is not necessarily equivalent to supporting the neocons or the Israeli rightwing in their warcrimes.

Those factions are brewing a perhaps life-ending conflict in the next twenty years if not this year. How could that be in Israel’s interest? I don’t believe AIPAC relationships are equivalent to becoming a robot, either, but that’s a different point.

“In that regard, which do you suppose the neoconservative-aligned Israeli government would favor?”

I have talked with Israeli agents who regretted not killing all the Arabs when they had the chance. I’m not unclear on the racism of Zionists. Those racist elements LOVE what is going on, until you mention that Bush allowed Cesium and Strontium to be taken from Tuwaitha, along with hundreds of thousands of tons of HMX. Then they blanche. It’s a very dangerous conspiracy, that spreads the methods and materials of war.

There are extremists in all countries, but the rightwing takeover of the US and Israel is a mutual tragedy, not some sort of brililant success.

“a key “benchmark” in the supplemental that Rahm Emanuel helped get to President Bush for signing?”

The Congress is not voting on any such contract in Iraq. It was an effort to twist the emergency supplemental into an effort to register displeasure in the policy (which, horrible as it is, was in fact an accomplishment). Not obstructing the inclusion of such material is basic to politics, though leftists think that you can do politics without conceding to power.

[That hydrocarbon bill amounts to a massive theft of another country’s assets by way of a war of aggression and a permanent military occupation”

That’s certainly so, but it is still a concession that allowed that bill to go forward. Leftists also complained about earmarks. But you apparently cannot get Blue Dogs to vote tough bills with the caucus without earmarks.

Howard Dean has a LOT more work to do.

As Paul in LA above at 5:23pm fully expanded on it does now appear to have been a deliberate tactic of the Bush regime to blow up Iraq’s established ruling structures fully and relentlessly. To deliberately sow deep dysfunction,social chaos and castrate any Iraqi resistance to American intents and desires in Iraq. One can easily imagine the benefits to be derived for putting in the super-bases,the embassy citadel in Baghdad and extracting claims and rights on Iraqi oil fields from such a tactic.

By obliterating Iraqi infrastructure,civil organization,unleashing mayhem and setting in motion a growing Iraqi refugee flow due to several ongoing mini-wars of rival factions and ransom/death dealing Americans now have their very own WestBank and Gaza. Just like the Israelis have done and do then too the Americans now can harness the ongoing/endless mayhem and dysfunction to cloak and justify other,deeper intents and goals.

Invading Iraq was fully a detour from any rational GWOT strategy considering Saddam did not endorse alQaeda and the 9/11 attackers were largely from Saudi Arabia…not Iraq.

The GWOT can not be a fact-based,valid rationale for invading Iraq which was under a very strong,tight net after the Kuwait Oil War.An Iraq that had no operational air force–an Iraq that was proscribed with no-fly zones control in both the south and north–an Iraq that was under a regime of sanctions that allowed little in way of doing anything other than little or nothing.

Shock and Awe was deeply about showcasing American militarism via the long range standoff missile attacks,the laser guided bombs and the ability to smother any Iraqi responses with ruthless suppression.

It should be pretty plain at this point in mid 2007 that Shock and Awe was intended to open Iraq for full American blow apart and insertion of American desires and intents.

The Iraqis,like so many before them,are not going to give in nearly so easy. It must be a great shove backwards to G.W.Bush that he is being held away from his coveted basking in glory as victor in Iraq. He won’t admit to this colossal failure and Americans will be paying dearly for his hubris long after late Jan. 2009.

To judge from recent days of a report that Bush may have expressed he is fully set on digging the USA very deep into Iraq how tragically true that last thought appears to be.

While it’s tempting to try to find some method to the madness of the last few years, you won’t find it in a 50-year plan to control the oil supply of the Middle East. That’s a pipe dream that didn’t survive the occupation.

Clearly the Neocons’ control-the-oil plan couldn’t work from eight thousand miles away, but what’s the evidence that such became immediately apparent to those who believed it could succeed? To this day, I feel sure, some of them still intend to fight to the last drop of everyone else’s blood to put the entire Persian Gulf under the benign protection of the United States military.

They just cannot accept that their enormously expensive military-industrial complex is unable to control every corner of the world, quickly, with an acceptable level of death. U.S. power is like a religion to them, something they accept by faith rather than by reason.

Their self-deception predates even the Reagan presidency, going back to the first oil crisis in 1973, when some Americans, confronted with lines at the gas pump, sought and received a quickie divorce from reality. Ever since then they have had nightmares involving comic book Arabs sitting on top of oil fields which, they feel sure, we actually own.

A “war tax” that, by law, couldn’t be passed onto U.S. gasoline customers?

I mean, Bush, Cheney’s secretive Energy Task Force and the oil companies that must have been part of this secretive Energy Task Force are the one’s responsible for starting a war of agression against Iraq…for control of Iraqi oil.

Thus, a “war tax” on the oil companies responsible for unleashing the evil of Bush, Cheney and the Iraq War on us, the citizens of Iraq and the rest of the world makes perfect sense.

No, neocons weren’t involved in fomenting rebellion or war.

•They are a hapless bunch of idiots, and two of them are busy redeveloping our nuclear arsenal.

Oh, and they changed the nuclear use policy in 2005 to say that nuclear weapons were OK for use “if they will insure a positive outcome.”

Nothing to worry about.

Well don’t you think that we need to occupy Iraq in order to keep the Chinese out? Or are we going to hold Iraq (or should I say it’s oil) as a chip to play against our debt that they hold?

No wonder the Democrats caved on the war spending. I think we are fucked if we do and fucked if we don’t. The difference is that one is rape.

It’s been said the Republicans gave Americans reason to fear and then they used that to force us to accede to their policies, particularly attacking Iraq and staying there.

But, wasn’t it also the Republicans who killed the alternative-fuels research program during Reagans admin. and then spent us into terrible debt (building who knows what military junk we don’t need), so we were much weaker than we needed to be? Wasn’t the the Republicans who have driven America into debt and then allowed, perhaps even tempted, American corporations to go overseas and leave America far weaker than it needed to be?

They keep trying to destroy America and the Democrats haven’t stood against them very well.

Now they say China will get the oil or Iran won’t sell it to us or some other lies, so they can convince us we have to kill our kids by sending them to Iraq to steal oil.

Had enough?

It’s NOT? What planet do you live upon?

•Failing to deploy sufficient troops to stabilize the country (*Rumsfeld at one point wanted 25,000 troops total).

•Failing to guard HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONS of high-explosives, IED artillery shells, munitions, nuclear material from looting.

• Deploying deathsquad racist mercenaries from around the world, and giving them a total legal waiver.

• Firing every gay Arabic translator they could round up.

• Allowing the UN to be driven from the country. Refusing to allow the UN or the local countries to establish any sort of local force from within the Muslim cultures.

• Full deBaathification without any process; disbanding the entire Iraqi security apparatus (after promising the Joint Chiefs that they would be available to stabilize the borders).

• Failing entirely to reestablish bombed out sewage, water, electricity.

•Failing to support the electrical/water/sewage needs of hospitals; failing to supply Hague Convention required assistance to injured non-combatants.

•Refusing to provide ANY process for redressing wrongs, for investigating incidents, for any sort of legal occupation authority.

•Carrying out repeated pogroms on entire cities, using white phosphorus as an anti-personnel weapon.

•Dropping hundreds of thousands of tons of half-strength uranium on Iraq (which is an act of genocide).

•Doing nothing about the refugee crisis.

•Threatening ongoing war and occupation forever, in the effort to terrorize the Iraqi people into a desperate insurgency.

• Taking over oil supplies, and failing to meter their rape. Forcing the transitional Iraqi gov’t to sign away their sovereign oil rights.

•Deploying armies of Christian missionaries, and calling the action a ‘Crusade.’

•Lying about the causes of the invasion. Falsely stigmatizing the entire Iraqi people to justify the invasion and brutal occupation.

I could list probably ten other major actions CLEARLY INTENDED as EXACTLY “an intentional mechanism by which the U.S. neocons/hawks sought to impose their will on the country.”

What are you SMOKING?

Pass the hallucinogens, because your statement is RIDICULOUS on its face.