You've come a long way, baby -- a long way down the road back toward the 1950s, all over again, it seems. When former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor graduated near the top of her law school class at Stanford, she was offered jobs at law firms as a legal secretary. At least Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who similarly graduated at the top of her Columbia class, was able to secure a position as a lawyer -- but only after being turned down by Justice Frankfurter who had no interest in hiring a woman. That's some progress.
Justice Ginsburg went on to found the Women's Rights Project for the ACLU, which has done groundbreaking work on women's issues for years ever since. She is a pioneer in opening the doors that a whole lot of us now take for granted as having been there all the time -- she not only opened those doors, in some cases, she helped to build them from the ground up.
Which makes yesterday's Supreme Court decision on women's pay equity all the more profoundly appalling in so many ways. In a spare 5-4 majority, led by Justice Samuel Alito (thanks again to all the fabu Senators who voted for cloture -- heckuva job!), ruled that women have a limited window of opportunity to bring a case of pay discrimination -- even if they have only recently discovered the differential in pay and that it was attributable to gender.
In an opinion by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., the majority rejected the view of the federal agency, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, that each paycheck that reflects the initial discrimination is itself a discriminatory act that resets the clock on the 180-day period, under a rule known as “paycheck accrual.”“Current effects alone cannot breathe life into prior, uncharged discrimination,” Justice Alito said in an opinion joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy and Clarence Thomas. Justice Thomas once headed the employment commission, the chief enforcer of workers’ rights under the statute at issue in this case, usually referred to simply as Title VII.
Under its longstanding interpretation of the statute, the commission actively supported the plaintiff, Lilly M. Ledbetter, in the lower courts. But after the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case last June, the Bush administration disavowed the agency’s position and filed a brief on the side of the employer.
What this means is this: the Supreme Court has overturned longstanding precedent in the way that it has handled these cases, there is no tolling of the time period any longer as each paycheck is handed out until someone finds out they've been shafted. Because, you know, employers often tell employees flat out that they are breaking the law and why -- that's easy as pie to find out in most large corporations. Not. And, as an added bonus, the Bush Administration has reversed the government's longstanding practice of empowering employees who may have been wronged and, instead, filed a brief on behalf of the corporate interests.
Justice Ginsburg, in a stinging rebuke from the bench, read aloud her dissent (I cannot emphasize enough how rare this is.). I wanted to share a bit of her words with everyone:
In our view, the court does not comprehend, or is indifferent to, the insidious way in which women can be victims of pay discrimination.Title VII was meant to govern real-world employment practices, and that world is what the court today ignores.
There is a reason that legislation on gender pay equity is needed -- and needs to be taken seriously. The woman involved in the case that the Supreme Court decided was a supervisor -- the only female supervisor -- at a Goodyear plant, where she had worked for 20 years. She learned about the pay disparity issue late in her career -- but that did not matter to the majority in this decision. As Justice Ginsburg further explained:
In a vigorous dissenting opinion that she read from the bench, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the majority opinion “overlooks common characteristics of pay discrimination.” She said that given the secrecy in most workplaces about salaries, many employees would have no idea within 180 days that they had received a lower raise than others.An initial disparity, even if known to the employee, might be small, Justice Ginsburg said, leading an employee, particularly a woman or a member of a minority group “trying to succeed in a nontraditional environment” to avoid “making waves.” Justice Ginsburg noted that even a small differential “will expand exponentially over an employee’s working life if raises are set as a percentage of prior pay.”
By the time the litigant in this particular suit learned of the gender inequity in her paycheck compared to her male counterparts, she was making 40 percent less than they were a year. Now, who wants to tell me that gender equity in salaries and benefits is a non-issue and not worth discussing? Anyone? The Supreme Court just threw the ball back into the legislative court -- kudos to any legislators who pick it up and run with it.
SCOTUSblog has much more on this, including analysis on the broad impact that this decision is likely to have on all types of discrimination suits: Title VII covers "race, color, religion, sex or national origin." This one is huge.
(Huge thank you to scarecrow who sent me some notes on this case from last night's NewsHour report, which I missed due to getting The Peanut ready for bed. It was incredibly helpful in deciphering some of the info and spin on this.)
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Yay, Justice Ginsburg! And a big fat raspberry to Alito.
5-4 again. We don’t need to ask who the five were…we can just call them “the usual suspects.”
Justice Kennedy is no Sandra Day O’Connor, let me tell you. And Alito? Well, I wasn’t expecting anything less from him.
Question: Can Supreme Court Justices be impeached?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 3
Or anything more. Alito is who he is, and he is a bastard.
Brisingamen @ 4
Yes, but I’m not counting on it happening.
What’s the term? Stare Decsis? NOT.
Notice that Kennedy here was the swing vote.
I wonder why he voted with the conservatives on this issue?
Bob in HI
EvilDrPuma @ 6
Yeah, I grew up in the era of all the wing-nuts hollering “Impeach Earl Warren!” for all those dastardly civil-rights and anti- segregation rulings.
EvilDrPuma @ 6
A better question may be whether this Supreme Court would allow shrub or any of his minions to be impeached… or, for that matter, whether they plan to allow the invalidation of yet another presidential election.
This was an atrocious decision, as is the EEOC’s 180-day rule.
Many companies forbid the sharing of pay information on pain of termination. What if they are not able to share that information until a group of employees are laid off, terminated, released many months or years later? How is discrimination against women as a group last year less less of a damage to women than it is in the next 180 days?
The next Justice should be a woman; the SCOTUS must look more like the United States if there will be real justice.
I think that the answer is changing EEOC’s rules in the short-term. The EEOC is supposed to protect employees, not employers, and its rules should do just that. But as long as Bush is in office, there will likely be cronies appointed to the EEOC who will obstruct and deny any protections for employees.
Ugh.
Are conservatives put on earth solely as impediment?
Eve didn’t eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge. She voted for cloture.
I heard this on the Today Show this morning. I can’t believe this SCOTUS. Praise the Lord for Ginsburg. And let’s pray for her longevity and good health. We also need another progressive woman on the bench. After BushCo that is, ‘coz we know he ain’t gonna do it.
tommy yum @ 12
The snake was a Republican, of course. “Keeping women in their place,” right from the start.
It amazes me how much these guys (and I do mean guys) can twist logic into a pretzel and then claim that they are just following the statutes.
Be interesting to see what Congress does, and if Bush threatens a veto…
I hold NARAL largely responsible for this. Had they been willing to go out and really fight the Alito nomination (not to mention the Holy Joe support), we may have had a fillibuster in the Senate. This was one nomination which was really worth a fight.
Speaking of which, last week I got a hugely expensive fundraising mailer (disguised as always as a petition for abortion rights) from NARAL. I wrote a scathing letter and sent it back in the envelope they provided.
I wonder if women would buy goodyear tires if they knew the facts of this case? I wonder if Goodyear would feel as good about this victory - and the cost of settling it if it cost them dearly in sales and reputation?
Shouldn’t companies feel shameful and regret when this type of evidence is presented? Shouldn’t they be worried about widespread dissemination and publication of this information?
Why isn’t Goodyear ashamed about under paying this woman?
Christy writes:
Although it is becoming a tad less rare as this is the second time she’s done this in less than six weeks.
I dunno, but I’m thinking Mr Justices Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Scalia, and Thomas are going to wish they hadn’t p*ss’d this fine jurist off.
Bob Schacht @ 8
Because he is an Old. Out-of-touch. White. Conservative. Man.
Rayne at 11 — Exactly, and a lot of corporations and firms run on a blind compensation system for executives and employees, so discovery might hinge on something as simple as someone blabbing at the office Christmas party after too much spiked punch. And you can SO depend on that happening within 180 days of your employment and all…jeebus.
After 01/20/09, perhaps the Congress will take pity on the SCOTUS and provide help with the work load; by adding two more justices. 6/5 rulings sound good to me.
I’m really glad you tackled this.
It does really seem as if a legislative fix is badly needed.
This would be a great, easy thing for Senator Clinton to champion, I would think, though it should be a no brainer for anyone on the side of the angels.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 20
Nobody in their right mind discusses their salary with co-workers.
Also: Shouldn’t Alito’s wife be crying about this decision? Instead of her shameful performance during the confirmation hearing?
EvilDrPuma @ 14
it’s name was Karl.
dakine01 @ 7
Sorry. Should have used der Google before posting:
Stare Decisis
Justice Ginsberg rocks!
She gave the commencement address at George Mason Law School when my husband graduated from there in ‘93. (She was still on the DC Court of Appeals then.) I remember being SO impressed by her comments about being a lawyer and a mother….and by her lovely aura of gentle wisdom.
How she must hate the things that the Court and the country have come to these days.
This is good for Republicans. Female Republicans, that is.
my god we’ve been relegated to ‘barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen’.
Pachacutec @ 22
yeah, let’s give her something EASY to do so she won’t f**k it up. :)
kdh at 29 — Well, I currently have the barefoot and kitchen parts covered… *g* (I know, it isn’t funny, but I’m just too pissed not to crack wise today.)
One of my favorite things about living inthe 2nd circuit, is that Justice Ginsburg is our Ciruit justice.
I don’t know how many of you know this, but each of the 9 Circuits has a Supreme court judge assigned to it and when SCOTUS is not in session emergency petitions ans motions tothe Supreme Court are brought directly to the Justice assigned to that circuit.
Jusrice Ginsburg is our Justice and she is famously generous with her time and her attetnion and remains an active part of the legalcommunity in the Second Circuit. She speaks at events and comes to confernces. She has always been an inspiration.
One of the most important legacies of the LCinton Administration was appointing this wonderful woman.
this is an outrage.
Mutant Poodle @ 15
Congress doesn’t have anything to do with this. Separation of powers.
kdh22 @ 29
Not quite yet. They probably won’t get around to the right to hold property or to vote until next year.
Hell, the Federal agencies are just as guilty of this as private industry.
Case in point: Federal agency hires 3 new employees. The 2 ladies are hired at a lower step-in-grade that the man, for the same position.
The man turns out to be an alcoholic, who pisses away every attempt to help him retain his position. Fortunately, he was still “career-conditional” so it was possible to fire him.
The ladies have been promoted, but I still think they should have been hired at the same grade/step as the guy. (Not that my opinion counts.)
dakine01 @ 18
Although it is becoming a tad less rare as this is the second time she’s done this in less than six weeks.
I dunno, but I’m thinking Mr Justices Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Scalia, and Thomas are going to wish they hadn’t p*ss’d this fine jurist off.
If she is resorting to this, it says to me, that things in tha halls of SCOTUS may seem eerily similar to life in the hallwasy of a politicized DOJ.
Can you imagine the stress she must be under?
Woodhall Hollow @ 19
And. Unfortunately. In. Control.
Sounds to me like this is an appropriate question for Sen. Dodd this afternoon
Alito, Scalia, and Roberts are law and order guys - so - CHANGE THE LAW!!!
As for Clarence Thomas, what I really wish for, short of impeachment, is the imposition of an IQ test.
Biodun @ 34
Congress can pass legislation fixing the insane 180 day rule. And it should begin to move on this, immediately. I am thinking of all those unmarried women who tend to vote Dem, when they vote. Perhaps if the Dem congress really stood up for their interests and rights, they would feel that they have more at stake.
Hilary? This is a golden opportunity–don’t let it go….
Christy Hardin Smith @ 31
actually I kind of like being barefoot in the kitchen. Pregnant, not so much……but my breeding days are over, anyhoo.
Biodun @ 34
Biodun,
See this from Christy’s post:
Seems to me that this means the Congress CAN come in and fix this mess by legislation.
OK, the question is what to do now. Goodyear owes it to Ledbetter. My next set of tires will NOT be Goodyear tires, nor will my next car be one that comes with them.
The 180 days thing, or within the last six months goes back to language adopted by the National Labor Relations Act in 1935, just FYI…
http://www.nlrb.gov/publicatio.....guide.aspx
jayt @ 39
You mean this Clarence Thomas?
looseheadprop @ 32
I agree. I am too lazy to do the research but IIRC she was opposed by pro-choice groups. NARAL perhaps? At the time, I was amazed at the stupidity.
Odds of getting civil rights out of these 5?
S-T-A-R-K
OT but Greenwald has a good Plame-lies post up at Salon.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 31
*g* — to quote seinfeld, ‘not that there’s anything wrong with that’ (if it’s your choice, that is). ‘pissed’ just isn’t strong enough 4 me tho. i don’t think there is a word that describes my intense feelings at this point wrt teh sh*t we’re having to endure in our country. i am disappointed in myself for being so naive to think that the US would forever be immune to this r*ping of its citizens by these f**kers. o.k. i’m done ranting now.
Blub @ 35
what a comfort! *g*
Coz at 44– Yes, it does. But traditionally, that 180 thing was tolled each and every time the employee received a paycheck because of the difficulty in proving these cases in a closed corporate environment with a history and culture of internal discrimination. That has been the precedent by which these cases have been guided for years - and now? Well, Title VII just got an enormous overhaul in one fell swoop. So this doesn’t merely apply to gender equity — it’s also racial discrimination, religious intolerance, nationality discrimination — anything that Title VII covers is now up for reconsideration. And corporations, who have very deep pockets to litigate just this sort of thing in the face of employees who, for the most part, do not. And, with this ruling, they have also undercut the viability of those cases,which means that lawyers who were taking them on contingent fees for back pay and the like will be less likely to take them now with a lessened potential for success.
And so it goes…
So who’s going to sponsor some new legislation on this?
allan_in_upstate @ 45
Ayup - that’d be the one. The one that hasn’t been on the right side of any S.Ct decision that I can think of.
He’s a lot like Bush - ask him a question, and know that the correct answer is 180 degrees the other way.
Or Cheney, of whom you ask a question, and know that the truth is precisely the opposite.
I’ve written Alito’s statement down
“Current events cannot alone breathe life into prior, unchanged descrimination.”
and put it beside my computer. I’m going to be looking at everything through the eyes of this statement to find more evidence of it’s blind, unfeeling stupidity. I’ll report back what I find.
Here is a bit more from the NYTimes on how this reorders the legal landscape on discrimination suits across the board.
Just went to Goodyear’s website and sent them an email about this. My final line was:
I don’t do business with businesses that discriminate.
Are conservatives put on earth solely as impediment?
No, but they believe they are, which is worse.
jayt @ 53
anyone remember the confirmation hearings? what a circus that was.
Something about a pubic hair on a Coke can sticks in my memory. Eeee-yeeew.
Would it be possible to get Justice Ginsburg to talk here at FDL?
I mean, one should reach high shouldn’t one?
dakine01 @ 42:
Thanks again–also re: Clinton/Gore in last thread. I skipped coffee this morning. (Not kidding.)
This will need congressional action to fix because it won’t change with this court. If we get the presidency in 2008, and hold in the Senate and the House, this can be changed and it should be something we start asking the candidates about. Perhaps Sen. Dodd this afternoon? hint, hint!
itwasntme @ 54
From my experience, trying to rationalize someone else’s obvious stupidity is a futile effort. My stupidity on the other hand…no so much. I await your findings, and good luck! *g*
This is yet another ruling from the Supreme Court that points to a mindset that women are chattel. And to think, it’s likely going to be at least another generation before things will improve. Thanks, Sandra Day O’Connor, for the hand you had in ruining the progress this country was making.
AZ Matt @ 61
Matt
wrt your entire comment…Now there’s some logic!
The Opus Dei gang!
one might wish that ol’fashioned anti-catholic sentiment were still strong enough to disqualify these faucking fascist pigs from office…
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Clarence Thomas is truly a disgrace on SCOTUS. He was NOT qualified to be nominated, period. And it has NOTHING to do with race. Or maybe it does. Maybe Bush 41 was trying to make a point.
scarecrow @ 57
Conservative and conservatism is not the problem. What is broken is not the liberal - conservative dialectic. We have a new player, the the mafia crime family otherwise know as the Bush family.
OT-Here’s a speech given by Fred Thompson on why Scooter is innocent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....49926.html
allan_in_upstate @ 45
“the last time Thomas asked a question in court was Feb. 22, 2006…”
But traditionally, that 180 thing was tolled each and every time the employee received a paycheck because of the difficulty in proving these cases in a closed corporate environment with a history and culture of internal discrimination. That has been the precedent by which these cases have been guided for years - and now? Well, Title VII just got an enormous overhaul in one fell swoop.
Surely you don’t mean to impy that Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas are - GASP
*Activist Judges*!?!
The Fervent 5 re-write law here - I would assume the intent was not to allow employeers to discriminate as long as there was limited chance for the person to know within 180 days. So if the person does not know of one year, then finds out there is no recourse?
Who knows maybe that is the way they wanted it. In any case this just shows what everyone on both sides with a brain that pondered this knows - they will do anything they want and rule for what they want - even having to make a pathetic argument does not deter them since there is no recourse (and I am sure based on history in general that the historical records of the SCOTUS is riddled with falshoods. Looks like we are going to try and keep it going.
ET at 69 — Do I even need to ask how the news on Stevens’ home and potential investigation has you feeling this morning? *g*
Brisingamen @ 56
Thanks for the idea. My final line was “Lies have consequences.”
wgg at 65 — You know, good old fashioned religious discrimination of any sort ought not be the criteria for anything. While this decision undercuts legal recourse on that, I’d appreciate everyone not fostering it in our threads. Thanks.
Gotta wonder — did Justice Ginsburg make Mrs Alito cry?
Shorter Scalito: all your wombs belong to us.
Woodhall Hollow @ 23
Actually, everybody should talk about their salary with co-workers in a constructive, non-confrontational fashion, for the very reason indicated by this issue — or they should be asking their employer why their pay system doesn’t have more transparency, like established and published pay ranges for set job descriptions.
TeddySanFran @ 75
TSF - good question! hehehe
And the “liberal media” ABC Morning News covered this in a little 30 second (if that long) blurb. Didn’t even bring up Ginsburg or the OTHER opinion. Because they were rushing off to do a big update on the WHALES.
Biodun @ 60
Not a problem. We all have those days. Although I can’t really imagine skipping coffee since I’ve been drinking it every day since I was about five years old…
The eminent domain decision is another that bothers me immensely. There was talk that a group was trying to come up with money to build a WalMart (or something) on the site of one of the Justice’s homes. Whatever came of that? I’d donate.
Since Thomas is Scalia’s toady and votes as Scalia instructs, we could save money by dumping Thomas and giving Scalia two votes.
Rayne @ 77
Yes, keeping your employees in the dark about how they are paid is really just a way to manipulate and control them. I like the idea of transparency, it lets the sun in and we all know that sunlight is a powerful disinfectant. Too many cockroaches living in that dark.
looseheadprop @ 32
Nuts, I should know this…who’s the Justice for the 9th?
edit: Nevermind, I found it. Kennedy.
dakine01 @ 18
Although it is becoming a tad less rare as this is the second time she’s done this in less than six weeks.
I dunno, but I’m thinking Mr Justices Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Scalia, and Thomas are going to wish they hadn’t p*ss’d this fine jurist off.
I don’t think they care. They have moved the court, and there are two years left.
Roberts is going to be chief for about 35 years. He is smart, same as Alito only smart.
goodyearhateswomen @ 17
All good points. Apparently, the trial court found there had been substantial discrimination and the plaintiff was awarded a large amount for back pay. So there is no dispute about Goodyear’s culpability. The issue was whether the Commission’s rule about how much time you had to sue was consistent with the statute — and the court essentially reinterpreted the statute so that almost no one would ever file in time, because the information would be difficult to get before it was too late.
The court basically took a statute designed to protect employees from discrimination and turned it into a statute designed to protect employers from anti-discrimination suits — while claiming that was Congress’ intent. And since this statute applies to more than sex discrimination, and there is similar langauge in other statutes, and these statues apply to discrimination based on sexual orientation, race, national origin, etc, this holding could trigger reinterpretations across the board.
Don’t ever accept the BS about judges that are “strict constructionists.” This is a very “activist” Supreme Court, and they make no bones about what they are up to. They’re going to roll back as much of the progressive legislation of the last 40 years as they can, as quickly as the can, and nothing can stop them until we regain the majority.
In the meantime, Congress will have to fix each decision via revised legislation, and deal with the 60 vote problem in the Senate and finding enough votes for veto overrides.
Solai @ 81
oh man, that was a f****g OUTRAGE.
I heard that rumor too…believe it was about Souter’s house in New Hampshire.
Rayne @ 77
Well, I used to think so–and was at one time, open about such things. But I learned the hard way that talking about what you make with co-workers can lead to some very nasty (envy-based) office politics. Same goes for pissing off the boss by asking/demanding more transparency.
Now–I know that if I were ever in a position to make such a policy, I would be transparent. But when a job that you really need is on the line, risking being subtly sidelined for promotion (for example) is not such a good choice for many.
stare decisis Etymology - latin
def. - (stare) Take a good hard look at settled law and precedent.
(decisis) and decide to change it.
Pach brought up a great point the other day: we have, and have had, a three-party system. The most powerful, which operates behind the curtain, is the Plutocratic party. There are corporatists in both canonical parties who constantly undermine the country’s interest.
This latest SCOTUS ruling is obviously a sop to the corporations, who continue to be viewed in the eyes of the law as individuals.
Haven’t you heard? Greed is good and the sociopath is your best friend.
This is the first time I’ve seen this case discussed at Firedoglake, although it’s been before the courts for years. I’m surprised.
What ever happened to the discovery rule? Footnote 10 to the decision dismisses the issue because it was not properly argued in the Plaintiff’s brief. I don’t do Federal Appellant law, but is the USSC really so restricted in the doctrines it can consider in this situation?
It smells like bullsh*t to me
allan_in_upstate @ 45
Here’s my favorite from the link:
scarecrow @ 86
Exactly, Scarecrow. And, if and until the libs/progressives/Dems? become a stronger majority in the Congress, the neocons will have their way with the less-priviledged in the US.
One more item on the “Fix-It” list for January 20, 2009.
Slothrop at 92 — Yes, we’re just a bunch of slackers.
goodyearhateswomen @ 17
Yes! Goodyear boycott!
itwasntme @ 54
Lost in Translation an equivlent:
- we will never leave Iraq
after all past mistakes and all that. Oh, I am new management here - I don’t even know how much the cogs are getting paid.
You’re exactly right. I never thought of it that way. Excellent.
The NewsHour report, typical these days, was mediocre. And Jim Lehrer is getting senile. He interjected in his commentators talk that the dissenters were “the liberals”, as if it were an off-the-cuff but nevertheless important point of context for his audience, but ignored the corollary observation, that the majority were all staunch conservatives, and that this decision was as much a party-line vote along a political fault-line as legal analysis.
Only at the end did the discussion bring up that this decision could affect millions of workers under this statute, and that its reasoning could affect millions more under other statutes that used similar wording. But that was at the end, with no time to contemplate or follow up that stunning observation!
Woodhall Hollow @ 88
Been there, done that. Actually worked in an environment of 8 female and 2 male staffers with 2 male managers where one of the male managers actually told a female worker that “we” wouldn’t be seeing much of a pay bump since they had to “take care of the boys”. Those boys had families to support, don’t you know.
GRRRR…
That was before threats to sue for discrimination happened, and a new transparent pay system was implemented. Oh, and both the managers were either canned or removed from supervisory roles.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 72
Hi, Redd!
The news broke yesterday in an article in The Anchorage Daily News, and was ignored by almost all radio and TV