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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/30/marcy-and-jane-write-letters/#comment-728638</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;first — very well-put, here!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now, as i assume everyone here knows&lt;br /&gt;
by now, “big media” has also filed&lt;br /&gt;
a memo of law in support of access&lt;br /&gt;
to the libby-supporter-letters. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’ll be blogging on their very-&lt;br /&gt;
compelling arguments shortly, but&lt;br /&gt;
i will note that even libby’s defense&lt;br /&gt;
team, in their filings of today, seem&lt;br /&gt;
to concede that most of the letters&lt;br /&gt;
will be public — now, it is all over,&lt;br /&gt;
save for the shouting — that being,&lt;br /&gt;
whether they get released before sentencing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the big media brief really nails ted&lt;br /&gt;
wells’ team for not playing straight&lt;br /&gt;
with the kushner precedent. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a very entertaining read, indeed. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;safe journeys to marcy — continued&lt;br /&gt;
well-being to jane. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LATER — i ended up with a more&lt;br /&gt;
populist piece, on the “access”&lt;br /&gt;
legal arguments/memos story,&lt;br /&gt;
tonight, than i had envis-&lt;br /&gt;
ioned ealier — mainly due to&lt;br /&gt;
serendipity, in comments,&lt;br /&gt;
and bmaz’s provsion of a&lt;br /&gt;
link — on my blog. . . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so — &lt;a href=&quot;http://indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/2007/05/excellent-plain-english-arguments-for.html&quot;&gt;while the “bad ole&lt;br /&gt;
big media” arguments are more&lt;br /&gt;
concise, at least after i edited&lt;br /&gt;
‘em (he he!) — and mostly free of&lt;br /&gt;
that tire-some legal jargon, the&lt;br /&gt;
populist “&lt;em&gt;amicus&lt;/em&gt; petition” has a&lt;br /&gt;
rather &lt;em&gt;alluring charm&lt;/em&gt;, all its own&lt;/a&gt;. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do take a squint. . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first — very well-put, here!</p>
<p>now, as i assume everyone here knows<br />
by now, “big media” has also filed<br />
a memo of law in support of access<br />
to the libby-supporter-letters. . .</p>
<p>i’ll be blogging on their very-<br />
compelling arguments shortly, but<br />
i will note that even libby’s defense<br />
team, in their filings of today, seem<br />
to concede that most of the letters<br />
will be public — now, it is all over,<br />
save for the shouting — that being,<br />
whether they get released before sentencing.</p>
<p>the big media brief really nails ted<br />
wells’ team for not playing straight<br />
with the kushner precedent. . .</p>
<p>a very entertaining read, indeed. . .</p>
<p>safe journeys to marcy — continued<br />
well-being to jane. . .</p>
<p>LATER — i ended up with a more<br />
populist piece, on the “access”<br />
legal arguments/memos story,<br />
tonight, than i had envis-<br />
ioned ealier — mainly due to<br />
serendipity, in comments,<br />
and bmaz’s provsion of a<br />
link — on my blog. . . </p>
<p>so — <a href="http://indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/2007/05/excellent-plain-english-arguments-for.html">while the “bad ole<br />
big media” arguments are more<br />
concise, at least after i edited<br />
‘em (he he!) — and mostly free of<br />
that tire-some legal jargon, the<br />
populist “<em>amicus</em> petition” has a<br />
rather <em>alluring charm</em>, all its own</a>. . .</p>
<p>do take a squint. . .</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/30/marcy-and-jane-write-letters/#comment-728093</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-727439&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 166&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-727394&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;brendan @ 160&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;james at #149:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is a refresher on Rich, who was an Israeli “intelligence asset” (as opposed to an outright spy like Pollard) and Clinton’s motiviation in pardoning him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.salon.com/news/col/cona/2001/02/13/rich/index.html&quot;&gt;http://archive.salon.com/news/.....index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was going to say the Republican outrage at Rich’s pardon is ironic in light of Bush’s subsequent foreign policy and the role of Libby in it, but doublethink is the better word.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What were the goods that Rich had on Clinton?&lt;br /&gt;
How were the goods collected on Clinton? Amdocs..Comverse Insofy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why was Fox forced to remove this four part series  from their website?  This four part report by Carl Cameron soon after 9/11 describes how Israeli based communication systems have had access to most phone records in the U.S.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.informationclearing.....le7545.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It has something to do with a software program called ProMIS that was developed by Inslaw Technologies. The guy who developed it was driven into bankruptcy after his program was appropriated by the Feds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pollard used a prototype of the technology to hack into computers and then the info on the disks was automatically uploaded to orbiting satellites for transmission overseas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ProMIS was actually mentioned in a news blurb shoortly after 9/11 when there was speculation that bin Laden had gotten his hands on it. That blurb, like Bush’s unfortunate, but true, Crusade remark was not repeated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-727439"><em>Kathleen @ 166</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-727394"><em>brendan @ 160</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>james at #149:</p>
<p>Here is a refresher on Rich, who was an Israeli “intelligence asset” (as opposed to an outright spy like Pollard) and Clinton’s motiviation in pardoning him.</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.salon.com/news/col/cona/2001/02/13/rich/index.html">http://archive.salon.com/news/&#8230;..index.html</a></p>
<p>I was going to say the Republican outrage at Rich’s pardon is ironic in light of Bush’s subsequent foreign policy and the role of Libby in it, but doublethink is the better word.</p>
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<p>What were the goods that Rich had on Clinton?<br />
How were the goods collected on Clinton? Amdocs..Comverse Insofy?</p>
<p>Why was Fox forced to remove this four part series  from their website?  This four part report by Carl Cameron soon after 9/11 describes how Israeli based communication systems have had access to most phone records in the U.S.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm">http://www.informationclearing&#8230;..le7545.htm</a></p>
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<p>It has something to do with a software program called ProMIS that was developed by Inslaw Technologies. The guy who developed it was driven into bankruptcy after his program was appropriated by the Feds.</p>
<p>Pollard used a prototype of the technology to hack into computers and then the info on the disks was automatically uploaded to orbiting satellites for transmission overseas.</p>
<p>ProMIS was actually mentioned in a news blurb shoortly after 9/11 when there was speculation that bin Laden had gotten his hands on it. That blurb, like Bush’s unfortunate, but true, Crusade remark was not repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/30/marcy-and-jane-write-letters/#comment-728079</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here, %*#&amp;ing here, ladies!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, %*#&amp;ing here, ladies!</p>
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		<title>By: pwrlght</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/30/marcy-and-jane-write-letters/#comment-727980</link>
		<dc:creator>pwrlght</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Team Libby delayed their filing because they wanted a look at Fitzgerald’s motion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Team Libby delayed their filing because they wanted a look at Fitzgerald’s motion.</p>
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		<title>By: StCroixBoy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/30/marcy-and-jane-write-letters/#comment-727885</link>
		<dc:creator>StCroixBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 23:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is what I would like to see happen. Walton allows letters to go public. Libby gets three years starting NOW, not after appeals run out. Darth Cheney starts to wonder how well a guy named “Scooter” will hold up in the big house and what Scooter might be willing to say to get his sentence reduced. Cheney makes the call to CACIC(court appointed comander in chief) and tells him it’s time to play the pardon card. This should put us about July 4th. By that time, Gonzales has just been forced to resign, Rove has a desk full of travel brochures for Argentina and to celebrate, Cheney invites Scooter to go “hunting” with him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s face it. Libby WILL be pardoned. Wouldn’t it be better to have it happen 15 months before the elections instead of Jan ‘09?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I would like to see happen. Walton allows letters to go public. Libby gets three years starting NOW, not after appeals run out. Darth Cheney starts to wonder how well a guy named “Scooter” will hold up in the big house and what Scooter might be willing to say to get his sentence reduced. Cheney makes the call to CACIC(court appointed comander in chief) and tells him it’s time to play the pardon card. This should put us about July 4th. By that time, Gonzales has just been forced to resign, Rove has a desk full of travel brochures for Argentina and to celebrate, Cheney invites Scooter to go “hunting” with him. </p>
<p>Let’s face it. Libby WILL be pardoned. Wouldn’t it be better to have it happen 15 months before the elections instead of Jan ‘09?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Our work has greatly heightened the interest and knowledge of the trial system among average citizens.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I usually lurk but your letter to the judge inspired me to post and give you a big thank you for what you have created here. You have opened a window on politics and law that has taught me so much.&lt;br /&gt;
All of you here are true Patriots ( not to mention hilarious) and my heros. My heart breaks for what is going on with this admin., but Firedoglake has propelled me from a participant into an active, involved, contributing participant and given me hope that we CAN effect change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let the sun shine in!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Our work has greatly heightened the interest and knowledge of the trial system among average citizens.”</p>
<p>I usually lurk but your letter to the judge inspired me to post and give you a big thank you for what you have created here. You have opened a window on politics and law that has taught me so much.<br />
All of you here are true Patriots ( not to mention hilarious) and my heros. My heart breaks for what is going on with this admin., but Firedoglake has propelled me from a participant into an active, involved, contributing participant and given me hope that we CAN effect change.</p>
<p>Let the sun shine in!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In light of the Libby sentencing and the Supreme Court decision (to piss on women and all of our civil rights) and our rapidly approaching July 4th celebrations, it behooves all candidates to describe to Americans (of all stripes) their vision of what America can be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve heard it said that Mitt Romney is very rich and that he’s Mormon. How would that shape his vision of the America he would like to exist? Would we all be peasant workers except for Mitt and a few of his select friends? Would we all be converted to Catholic (per SC decisis) or Mormon (per Mittopia)?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rudy Giuliani seems confused about events of 9/11 where he ‘lead’ America out of the dark. Perhaps he can think on it a while and recall the past, so he can begin to think about America of the future?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary Clinton seems to have a clear picture of the America she wants to lead us to…at least it’s the one the polls say Americans might want. Can she lead? Are robots allowed to be President?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Barack Obama plainly laid out his view of the Iraq war during a recent interview. His view of things sounds a lot like John Kerry’s. He said we need to stand up the Iraq government so we can leave. I don’t know if he really believes we can finish the job Bush has begun or how many people he would leave in Iraq after we withdraw, but I know of nobody who voted for a Dem Congress in order to ’stay the course’. Obama’s idea of health care reform sounds about as wooden and irrelevant as Clinton’s, so let’s not go there. Does he have an image of a future America that’s really different than last week?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I poke sticks at those candidates becuase they’re getting a lot of media attention, but all the candidates need to rev up their speechifying skills and tell us what they want America to be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A well-informed electorate being necessary…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the Libby sentencing and the Supreme Court decision (to piss on women and all of our civil rights) and our rapidly approaching July 4th celebrations, it behooves all candidates to describe to Americans (of all stripes) their vision of what America can be.</p>
<p>I’ve heard it said that Mitt Romney is very rich and that he’s Mormon. How would that shape his vision of the America he would like to exist? Would we all be peasant workers except for Mitt and a few of his select friends? Would we all be converted to Catholic (per SC decisis) or Mormon (per Mittopia)?</p>
<p>Rudy Giuliani seems confused about events of 9/11 where he ‘lead’ America out of the dark. Perhaps he can think on it a while and recall the past, so he can begin to think about America of the future?</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton seems to have a clear picture of the America she wants to lead us to…at least it’s the one the polls say Americans might want. Can she lead? Are robots allowed to be President?</p>
<p>Barack Obama plainly laid out his view of the Iraq war during a recent interview. His view of things sounds a lot like John Kerry’s. He said we need to stand up the Iraq government so we can leave. I don’t know if he really believes we can finish the job Bush has begun or how many people he would leave in Iraq after we withdraw, but I know of nobody who voted for a Dem Congress in order to ’stay the course’. Obama’s idea of health care reform sounds about as wooden and irrelevant as Clinton’s, so let’s not go there. Does he have an image of a future America that’s really different than last week?</p>
<p>I poke sticks at those candidates becuase they’re getting a lot of media attention, but all the candidates need to rev up their speechifying skills and tell us what they want America to be.</p>
<p>A well-informed electorate being necessary…</p>
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		<title>By: whenwego</title>
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		<dc:creator>whenwego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Lew Koch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew Koch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please, please, please — no letup. This trial isn’t even  begun it’s last laps (unless the judge sends the Scooter off to the slammer (slammer, hell, it will be like the summer camps, complete with tennis courts, the Watergate boys vacationed at (some evening finding God — who ever she is.) Anyway it’s got to be at least nine months for the first appeals to slowly, slowly wend their way through the courts. The apologists are just waiting for a let up, so  they can move in and change the subject.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please, please — no letup. This trial isn’t even  begun it’s last laps (unless the judge sends the Scooter off to the slammer (slammer, hell, it will be like the summer camps, complete with tennis courts, the Watergate boys vacationed at (some evening finding God — who ever she is.) Anyway it’s got to be at least nine months for the first appeals to slowly, slowly wend their way through the courts. The apologists are just waiting for a let up, so  they can move in and change the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: *ilbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>*ilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One and half years tacked on for Scoots attempt at writing fiction.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One and half years tacked on for Scoots attempt at writing fiction.</p>
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