Judge Walton has reviewed the request of various media outlets to release letters of support written on behalf of Scooter Libby (written by, among others, "former and current public officials"), and says he's inclined to release them:
After reviewing the various memoranda filed in response to its May 17, 2007 Order, the Court is inclined to permit at lest some form of disclosure of the sentencing letters to the media after the sentencing hearing has taken place. However, the Court believes that further briefing of this issue is warranted.
Here is the letter Marcy and I wrote to Judge Walton:
Margaret (Marcy) Wheeler
Jane Hamsher
FireDogLake Company
8033 Sunset Blvd. #966
Los Angeles, CA 90046May 28, 2007
The Honorable Reggie B. Walton
United States District Court for the District of Columbia
E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse
333 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20001
202-354-3292 (f)Re: United States v. I. Lewis Libby, Release of Letters
Dear Judge Walton:
We are two of the bloggers credentialed earlier this year to cover the Scooter Libby trial. Numerous commentators, including NYU Journalism Professor Jay Rosen, considered our coverage on FireDogLake.com to be among of the best coverage of the trial. After having served diligently to make the court’s proceedings readily accessible to the public, we were troubled to discover that Defense Counsel William Jeffress presented the possibility that bloggers might discuss the letters written in support of leniency for his client to be one of the biggest risks to the public release of those letters. “Given the extraordinary media scrutiny here, if any case presents the possibility that these letters, once released, would be published on the internet and their authors discussed, even mocked, by bloggers, it is this case.”
Yet even according to Jeffress’ own terms, those letters should be released. He writes: “Nixon views the interest vindicated by giving access to public records as ‘the citizen’s desire to keep a watchful eye on the workings of [the government].’ … Other principles seen as favoring disclosure of judicial records are the need for fostering public confidence in the administration of justice and encouraging informed civic discourse.” All three of those principles apply in this case.
Scooter Libby is one of the highest ranking government officials to be convicted of a felony. The Government provided abundant evidence at trial that Libby’s perjury served to obscure the role of the Vice President in the leak of Valerie Wilson’s identity. The Vice President first told Defendant Libby of Ms. Wilson’s identity; he ordered Libby to leak materials to Judith Miller; following that order, Libby leaked Ms. Wilson’s CIA employ to Ms. Miller; and Libby and the Vice President continued to discuss the Wilsons during the week of the leak and thereafter. Most disturbing, Libby told the Vice President his cover story before he told that story to the FBI. By lying and obstructing the investigation into the leak, Libby appears to have protected the Vice President from any potential criminal exposure for the leak. And Libby prevented the American people from learning the truth about the Vice President’s role in the leak.
If Libby’s obstruction indeed served to protect the Vice President, then any leniency shown to Libby makes it more likely that Libby will continue to protect the Vice President. In other words, pleas for leniency towards Libby carry a distinct benefit for the Vice President (and any other government officials whose role Libby may have obscured).
The government’s filing on this matter notes that some of those who wrote letters in support of Libby are “current and former public officials.” These are precisely the kinds of people who might have an interest in intervening to benefit Vice President Cheney. Moreover, they are precisely the kind of people whose actions the American people deserve to be able to scrutinize. By releasing those letters, you can allow citizens to assess whether those supporting Libby may or may not be trying to influence Vice President Cheney or other government officials implicated in the case.
Furthermore, given recent revelations regarding the firing of at least nine US Attorneys, the situation here calls for the utmost transparency. In at least two cases (Iglesias and McKay), there are credible allegations that Administration supporters intervened improperly in hopes of affecting active criminal cases for political reasons. Given the sharp decline in public confidence in our judicial system resulting from such allegations, and given the prominence of the figures involved in this case, the only way to ensure confidence in the sentencing of Scooter Libby is to strive for the greatest transparency.
Finally, though, the letters should be released in the interests of informed civic discourse. Many of the likely letter-writers continue to pursue public careers. The public deserves to know, then, if such people believe obstruction of justice should simply be treated lightly because a powerful person worked long hours. For example, former Senator and likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson actively raised funds for Libby’s defense. If he were to write a letter belittling the jury verdict, that might suggest contempt for our jury system that presidential voters deserve to consider when they cast their presidential vote.
As bloggers, we strive to bring increased transparency to our judicial system. Our work has greatly heightened the interest and knowledge of the trial system among average citizens. Thus, we have a distinct and—contra Jeffress—completely appropriate interest in the release of letters sent. We urge you to release all of the letters sent in regards to the sentencing of Defendant Libby.
Thank you for your consideration,
Margaret (Marcy) Wheeler Jane Hamsher
TheNextHurrah.com FireDogLake.com
I actually think that the letters should be released to the media prior to sentencing so that the public has the information to evaluate whether they have had an influence in whatever determination Judge Walton makes. Considering the Probation Officer's outrageous sentencing recommendation says that Libby should serve a shorter time because of his high legal bills (which observant readers will note Libby did not have to pay, thanks to the largesse of all the Republican donors giving to his defense fund) I think a lot of questions are going to be asked no matter what the outcome and the more transparency there is the less susceptible the decision will be to charges of undue influence.
One thing to add -- Team Libby had a dealine of Friday to submit his pre-sentencing memo, and his legal team did not meet it. They now have to have it in by 5pm tomorrow.
Weird.
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90 degrees here today.
Warm here too, but pleasant.
Ewww!
Bloggers.
In church!
hEY!
Hotter’n hell here in NC.
Damn I luvs me some ladies of da ‘Lake!
Marcy and Jane,
You two are on fire! Great letter!
Bringing up the USA firings–nice touch.
Missing filing deadlines is rarely a good idea. It doesn’t matter if you are talking about returning library books, paying your taxes, or showing up to court.
Not a good move, Scooter.
tommy yum @ 5
Just so long as the heat is kept near boiling in Judge Walton’s courtroom on 6/5.
If Libby gets anything LESS than what Mr Fitzgerald has requested, I will be even more sorely disappointed in the current system of justice than I already am from the recent SCOTUS decisions and acitons of DoJ in subverting justice.
Very good letter, especially nice was including the fired USA’s angle.
Wanna bet someone with a kid named Tucker is having a fit right about now?
It will be interesting to see just how many Libbyites show up on that list.
Beautiful Day here but unfortunately have to work. Darn!
It sounds as if Walton has bent over backwards for Team Libby. I doubt if he has forgotten all of the pre-trial discovery that took place but wasn’t used. We will see what happens. After all, Fitzgerald did prove his case.
AZ Matt @ 12
ya hope that Walton is making double sure nothing can be pointed at for an appeal. Give them every benefit of the doubt and let them f*ck it up everytime. No but themselves to blame …
Transparency.
Openness.
Honesty.
What a nice trio of supports on which to stand. Great letter, Jane and Marcy!
Jane -
“One thing to add — Team Libby had a dealine of Friday to submit his pre-sentencing memo, and his legal team did not meet it. They now have to have it in by 5pm tomorrow.”
Does something like this happen frequently? Are they gonna chalk it up to “It was a holiday weekend” excuse?
tommy yum -
Ditto from the SE end of the state as well. Horribly dry with no good prospects for much needed moisture. :-(
Nice letter. I particularly like the part about the possibility that letter writers hope to have other jobs in the public sector, and we have a right to know why they think lying is just fine.
Chilly and rainy in Paris.
Jane and Marcy -
That’s an excellent letter. I presume that you have read this brief ThinkProgress post: Libby defense fund member attacks Fitzgerald
I’m not very good at understanding things judges write, but it seems to me that Judge Walton is asking whether he should release information about the letters prior to Sentencing Day. Does anyone else see this in his last graf [underline in original]?
This makes me think he’s decided (”the court is inclined to permit at least some form of disclosure of the sentencing letters to the media after the sentencing hearing has taken place” prev graf) to release the letters, and now wants opinions about releasing them before he pronounces sentence.
Froomkin
Perhaps the Libby Team is lax because no matter what happens, they are expecting a swift pardon.
Peterr @ 9
Yeah, what’s Comstock payin’ for, anyway? Missed deadlines? I think not!
Huzzah. The letter alone is another fine public service. Should be on Op-Ed pages in every city. But no “Irving”?
One thing to add — Team Libby had a dealine of Friday to submit his pre-sentencing memo, and his legal team did not meet it. They now have to have it in by 5pm tomorrow.
Weird.
When was the pre-sentence report released?
Yes, this letter should be printed in every newspaper and magazine in the country to show just what DFH’s are like and how they think and how uncivil they are.
Way to go, gals. Awesome letter.
And prepare yourselves, bloggers and fellow citizens - remember that if Judge Walton decides in the end to publicly release letters submitted to the Court regarding Libby’s sentence, letters submitted by those of us who do not support Libby’s criminal actions in this affair will also be released. [Scooter Libby has already been allowed to copy for his own use all such letters from people urging that Judge Walton sentence Libby to the fullest extent of the law, in recognition of the seriousness of his crimes.]
noen at 11:15 am - Marcy’s TNH post this morning: Isikoff Forgets His Own Book
So the judge gave them an extension? What was their excuse, the dog ate it? Or in Libby’s case, bear?
One thing to add — Team Libby had a dealine of Friday to submit his pre-sentencing memo, and his legal team did not meet it. They now have to have it in by 5pm tomorrow.
Weird.
Not really. I’ve seen PSI info come late to judges from both sides. Judges scrutinize why this may have happened - closely, sometimes - as it has an impact on their overall schedule. Team Libby shouldn’t try to BS Walton on why they were late, ’cause he’ll be pissed if they’re shining him on.
I’ve been waiting and hoping for Libby to flip and tell all. Especially since Harriet made that cryptic remark (We’re gonna f**k ‘em). But given the amount of support/cash he’s rec’d from repubs, it seems not to be. They’d lynch him after all they’ve done.
But, them my hope was resurrected when I read that his lawyers missed a deadline. I know the chances of it happening are nearly non-existent, but I’m still hoping.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 17
The story in full:
What a piece of work.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 26
I first parsed this as Isikoff Forges His Own Book,
which is about what one would expect from Isikoff.
> One thing to add — Team Libby had a dealine
> of Friday to submit his pre-sentencing memo,
> and his legal team did not meet it. They now
> have to have it in by 5pm tomorrow.
>
> Weird.
As a non-lawyer I have to suspect that Fitzgerald’s memo hit Team Libby hard. They seem not to have expected a final shot that hard: Fitzgerald’s quotation of Bush, the confirmation that Plame was covert, and the citation of Libby’s PR website were not what they were prepared to deal with.
Cranky
Waccamaw @ 15
Got a little rain last night–a drop in the bucket, but immensely satisfying. My peony buds mummified on the stalk for want of rain.
Done hijacking!
They reproduce? Now there’s a visual.
I may be just a cynical old man but I think the fix is in,Libby will get a slap on the wrist.
As to the Supreme Court’s latest, did anybody think Ms Ledbetter would get a fair shake from this crew? We are turning the clock back pre FDR, it is going to take a lot more guts than this 110th Congress is showing to reverse the course. Woe is me !!!! Jim Coughlin
allan_in_upstate @ 30
Kicking him while he is down? That sounds like the the proverbial kid who murdered his parents asking for leniency because he’s an orphan.
May I suggest you remove the phone number? I may be public record when and if Walton publishes it, but why ask for a bunch of unwanted calls in the mean time…just my 2 cents.
edit: Mod, delete my comment if you see fit, thanks.
It’s amazing what these high wingnuts call unseemly — lie your country into war, not so much. A prosecutor defines sentencing for a convicted felon, yup: unseemly and “kicking him when he’s down.” Gotta say, Tucker sure came by his idiocy honestly — no DNA test required here.
I agree, the letters should be made public before sentencing. At least those letters from public officials and other public persons. In the latter category, I would include all pundits, major fundraisers, executives of public or private corporations, think tanks, foundations and charities. In short, in addition to celebrities, it should include anyone who has a significant stake in the outcome.
So whose signature is on the Probation Office report and what is known about him, her, or the office in general? Because except for the absence of a I heart Scooter, it has all the objectivity of a wet sloppy kiss.
Thanks so much for sharing this Jane! Made my day!
And don’t cha know Judge Walton read that one especially carefully. Oh to be a fly on the wall in his chambers - I can easily imagine him smiling and rereading one or more times.
Your FDL team added such substance, glamor and style and brightened the otherwise sober proceedings. Not to mention a spirited reminder to the MSM and Scooter’s defense team the truth squads within the bloggersphere is their worst nightmare.
Jane!!
Marcy!!!
Awesome stuff. If Judge Walton doesn’t take heed, I’ll be very disappointed. Along with most others here, I hope Walton throws the book at him. Make Scooter sing like a canary, if he wants to get out early.
Great letter!
You must have read my mind! I have been wondering what Fred Thompson would write in defense of Libby! I’m thinking that it will be contrary to his public image as a Law and Order type of guy. If he flaunts the rule of law, I’d love to see it used in an ad against him!
Folks when the leters are released I will be on trial myself and not around.
Please do me a big favor. Check for letters written by governmental officials ontheir government stationary. Thta’s a no no.
Remeber Wedtech? And Senator D’Amato’s brother Armand using gov’t stationary for private purposes?
There could be another scandal here and maybe, just maybe, a ittle misappropriation problem.
Anyway, I won’t be around for the docu dump of letters, so you pups will have to do the sifting. Unless Judge Walton wants to release then before this weekend?
hint hint
Hugh @ 40
I have never seen a PSR that was llacking in objectivity. Not the norm.
LHP!!
He he.
Thats a good one.
If anything, this trial and the Attorney Purge Investigations have shown how much our government would benefit from transparency: Government in the Sunshine. More, more, more, please, to bring some sense that citizens have some control over the governance that they fund with their taxes.
Excellent letter. Thanks for all that you have done and are continuing to do.
The need for a pardon comes up now only if Walton sends Lil’ Scooter to the slammer. (Boy, will Bubba wanna know more about that nickname.) It would be helpful if the Scoot goes to a real prison, not a Virginia health club.
If Walton does that, pending the outcome of his appeal, the pressure on Bush - much of it from or directed by Cheney - will be intense, especially because the appeals process could easily last the length of an expected sentence. But it will put the decision in play before the ‘08 election, which Karl will argue strenuously against.
Tee-hee.
Great letter, Jane and Marcy.
Thanks - needed the laugh in clinic this AM!
BTW, I truly believe that the letter from MArcy ad Jane will carry more weight than any other.
It was the conscienscious and responsible job done on this site that more than vindicated Judge Walton’s decison to create a media environment that supported blogger coverage.
That could have blown up in his face if not handled with professionalism and maturity.
Instead, you helped him make journalism history. I think the sober and fact based response to Jefress’s reckless attempt to paint the bloggers who have covered this case as undisciplined was foolish and did his client’s cause more harm than good.
Name calling directed at people who have behaved with such high standards while carving out a road through uncharted territory, was just plain silly.
those are great sample letters for us to use as templates, Jane and Marcy are pretty much obligated to send more concervative and professional letters then the rest of us
I’m not suggesting we send off unprofessional letters but I do think we can be more aggressive
for instance allow me, pay attention to my bold;
since we don’t have to worry about the professional implications Jane and Marcy do, we I think should use language as so;
The Government provided abundant evidence at trial that Libby’s perjury served to enable crimes against our government at pain of national security by those implicated including the Vice President by exposing vital assets in our fight against terrorism.
This exposure of national secrets was not only an assault on one asset, Valry Wilson, but an assault on all assets, putting every person associated with Valry at life peril, putting an entire network of hers and every asset associated with Brewster Jennings and Associates at life peril
putting Friends and family of anyone associated with Valry Wilson at life peril, even though they more then likely have no association with
Valry’s work for our national security
feel free to plagiarize my work
Oh! {{{{{{Marcy&Jane}}}}}}
Every time I get really “down” in the dumps, you just YANK me back up on my feet!
YaHOO! Absolutely INCREDIBLE letter!
Bravo! or is it Brava?
p.s., i also thot Mr. Fitz’s pithy comments were rawther fun also.
i keep having a little slide-show in my head of all the possible “supporters” with sweat beads dripping off their big long noses. ;->
Bustednuckles @ 46
Busted,
I’m not joking, I really do want you guys to look for misuse of official stationary. I am serious.
Josh Marshall has a report that Timmy Griffin may be pushing to become Fred Thompson’s presidential campaign director. Chutzpah, possibly self-immolating, but chutzpah.
What a letter!!! Judge Walton should be thoroughly impressed. His Honor is also made aware of the obvious education that FDL has donated to the online community particulary, but also to other news consumers via the (regrettably, few) traditional media outlets who picked up FDL’s liveblogging of the trial.
An educated citizenry, a transparent government and a fair and impartial judiciary are invaluable to a successful democratic enterprise.
LHP,
I know, thats why I think its a good one.
Not something someone like me would think of in a thousand years!
earl of Huntigdon
My bet (and I will consider giving odds) is that Scooter would likely go to Danbury (maybe if he super lucky Danbuy Camp)in Conn. or to Allenwood Camp in Pa.
Both lovely facilites with suitable sports and recreation ammentites, inmates do their cooking and can wear their own clothes.
Oh, and furlough passes to go into town to by a newpaper if you meet the trustworthiness requirements. We lost a drug dealer once that way. She had furlough to go jogging, just ran out the front door in her track (I think Calnvin Klien) track suit and disappeared. Pissed me off, we wanted to try to use her testimony in another trial. But, she was in the wind.
I have nothing planned for this weekend and it looks like rain. So, I am very much hoping for an early doc-dump to liven things up.
I haven’t even read it yet. Still laughing at the headline.
Bustednuckles @ 57
I worked with some of the Wedtech team (post wedtech) and the stationary thing was just such a slam dunk. tey couldn’t believe someone would do something that easy to prove.
LHP
Darn good example of why the right fears teh bloggers.
The hive mentality.
Solai @ 60
lotta rockin stuff in froomkin’s column.
Including a link to Andrew Sullivan blog on nazi roots of bush torture efforts
The wingnuts have come out from under their rock at NYT’s The Lede regarding Valerie Plame’s covert staus. E.g.,
WAWAWAWWAWA LOLOLOLOL 707070707
Excellent letter, Jane. I like the tone, and the detailed knowledge shown, along with sticking to the public policy issues that affect media rights, are likely to impress the Judge. The letter is itself a complete refutation of Jeffress’ charge. Well done.
Take a look at the rabid winger commentary today, bat-shit crazed about Fitzgerald’s summary of Plame’s employment status at the CIA. These people are utterly apoplectic over the submission. I thought that proof of Libby’s (and those for whom he worked) irredeemable character would offer more than enough cover to withdraw their support from the current administration and its policies. Apparently not.
Dear Judge Walton,
Please be light on my pal, Scooter. He’s a good guy and a stand up guy. And he’s been a real help fighting terrorists in Iraq since 9/11. I know the jury says he lied, but, you know how that is. Everyone tells a little lie now and then. The people need to know that lying isn’t so bad when you’re doing it to protect the American people. So, I trust you’ll do the right thing here. By the way, there are several openings in high administrative offices that need filling and I’m sure you are qualified for any number of them. Some are very comfortable and lucrative jobs, that you’d be glad to have if you didn’t have the job you have now, if you know what I mean. You don’t want to make my fat bald friend angry, right? So, just cut the guy a break.
Signed,
Very, very high public official in charge
allan_in_upstate @ 64
LHP@58
LHP, I cannot express how much I respect your contributions to this blog. I have learned boatloads of information from you, but the bit about the drug dealer jogging out of the prison in her Calvin Klein jogging suit no less, made me LMAO.
Please don’t be mad!!
Along with most others here, I hope Walton throws the book at him. — Libby already got hit with Marcy’s book.
Kudos to Marcy and Jane for an outstanding letter. Sunshine and more sunshine is the remedy in this case.
tommy yum @ 5
Someone go and open up a window!
Solai @ 60
And vice versa
NATO chopper down in Afghanistan…
allan_in_upstate @ 64
LOL So much for ‘Pats’ memory ; )
Jane and Marcy, fantastic letter! Another step forward for citizen journalism.
LHP — Wedtech, oh man. Part of all those D’Amato memories I’ve been trying to keep repressed.
albert fall @ 73
Did he say that? gosh, I agree with him!
hey guys you have to watch the video on raw story
some adolescent asks rudy “how do you sleep at night” not warning the people in the world trade center it’s going to collapse
rudy answers;
“I didn’t know it was going to collapse”
the video exists to previous interview where he says he was told when the trade center was going to collapse
GREAT stuff there;
first, how the HELL do they think the trade center is going to collapse when nothing of the sort ever happened before
and second…rudy is a liar
great video, a keeper for future presidential campaign if rudy is the standard barer
looseheadprop @ 58
I wonder if she quickly — and very briefly — had cause to regret running off. (If it was known that you wanted to use her testimony in another trial, her disappearance may have been of the fatally permanent kind.)
Yes Marcy and Jane! Helping Shine the light! That would be something if Walton releases as requested. Restoring (a bit) the American publics faith in our Justice System.
Thank you, Marcy and Jane!!!
If your letter was a petition, I’d sign it!
Bob in HI
hey, this is cutting edge headlines at think progress and pretty sick stuff from our administration;
looseheadprop @ 51
Are most defense attys drama queens like Jeffress?
(((Marcy&Jane)))
Ladies of the Lake,
Your letter to Judge Walton made me so proud to be a ‘FirePup. Thanks for your incisive eloquence. Surely this blog has sharpened the Excalibur of truth that PJF wielded so well on behalf of the People.
In sincere gratitude for your hard work that gives your letter so much more strength & validity,
SOS from MA
————————————————————————
‘PupMap (628 people!), Chat, Calendar, Timeline (Click here or on my .SIG above)
ThinkProgress: Justice Dept. Deems Sen. Stevens Too Corrupt To Participate In U.S. Attorney Scandal
Bearpaw @ 79
I wonder if she quickly — and very briefly — had cause to regret running off. (If it was known that you wanted to use her testimony in another trial, her disappearance may have been of the fatally permanent kind.)
Or maybe she didn’t run off at all. Think Adrianna.
I think that “Defendant Libby” is an outdated title. “Convicted Felon Libby” is more accurate.
Bravo!!
Hey, I usually lurk here, don’t comment much at all, but this letter is not just good, it’s heroic. It’s very exhilarating to read. Fearlessness, lucidity, integrity– whooooo– precious virtues on display.
Walton can’t refuse. Can he?
a) great letter from two blog-heroines.
b) saw a typo in a RawStory piece about Fitz the other day. It refered to him as Patrick Fitzgerlad, and for some reason that brought a smile, with all due respect of course.
I posted this thought at “The Next Hurrah”, too: The fact that Walton is ruling on this at all is a very good sign. He could have just sat on the letters and ignored requests for their release. Thus far, he has been a totally independent judge. That good news for justice, and very bad news for Team Libby.
cricket @ 43
I mentioned this the other day, but don’t you also wonder if any members of the media wrote letters; Judy Miller, Novak, Russert, Matt Cooper. How about Rove, Cheney, Hadley, Addington, or members of Congress, etc.
Jane,
You deserve a heartfelt thanks in these times for all the work FDL has done on this case. I truly feel that had FDL started this whole “transparency” thrust, we may not have had the success seen in the USA’s issue.
I’m sure Russert wrote a nice letter because DICK CHENEY CONTROLS TIM RUSSERT.
sy @ 66
I guess it’s because one of their cherished talking points has been skewered. It’s like a baby’s blue blankie, they start howling bloody murder when you try to take it away from them.
Let’s hope Walton is not paying much attention to what the jurors had to say about sentencing. Several of them said publicly they hoped he got pardoned…..
I’m dying to read Cheney’s letter.
Oh wait, he didn’t write one, did he.
Hasn’t spoken to
the guy who saved his assScooter in months.The Wall Street Journal reports that Timothy Griffin, the former aide to Karl Rove who became one of the most controversial figures in the U.S. attorney firing scandal, is in talks with Fred Thompson’s presidential campaign:
You two deserve a Pulitzer, and I’m not kidding. That, or a Kennedy Profiles-in-Courage-type award for all you’ve done on this important issue that isn’t being covered at all in MSM. I’m reminded of two other young reporters about 30 years ago, who persisted in covering a “third-rate burglary.”
Cudos. Bravas. And more.
Marcy and Jane,
Damn! You two express the message so beautifully, so concisely. I’ll bet Judge Walton is delighted with your letter and may even quote it as part of his decision.
OfT: uh-oh. Some poodle’s namesake doesn’t wanna be a Laker no more. Does this mean the blog has to change its name, or the poodle?
Loved the letter. I would have gone a bit stronger myself, but then I most likely would have offended the judge. The books I would throw would be unabridged dictionaries. From a great height. Thump, thump, thump, splat.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 96
I am sure Scooter knows how much his ex-boss appreciates his sacrifice.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 95
I have a hard time imagining that Walton would buy into those comments. Walton wasted quite a bit of his time working on the declassification of material that Libby said he needed to testify about, and then Libby didn’t testify at all. My experience as a “Law & Order” addict tells me that judges don’t like being fucked with, and Team Libby pressed its luck a number of times with him.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 96
I think the idea that the WH hasn’t communicated with Scooter is just B.S., it’s all window dressing.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 96
I want to read Lynne’s letter. If the bear’s going to make an appearance, it’ll be in Mrs. Cheney’s letter, I imagine.
Mandrake @ 94
Why would you want to take a baby’s blue blanket away, anyway?
GeorgeSimian @ 67
For verisimilitude, it needs to be in hand-printed in block letters.
Please read Perle’s latest spin/lies about the run-up to the invasion. Disgusting!
“We had the very best of intentions”
http://commentisfree.guardian......ot_he.html
What an absolute crock of crap!
How does that go? “Hell is paved with good intentions” I would hate to see what would have happennned in Iraq if Perle and his cronies had bad intentions in Iraq.
I would love to see Scott Ritter rip through what Perle is claiming in this piece of work.
I firmly believe that Perle and the “WMD’s in Iraq” crazies were very clear as to what would take place in Iraq after the invasion. The quagmire and potential disaster was predicted by so many experts!
Chaos, Creative Destruction, “A clean (bloody) Break for Securing the Realm” is what these crazies wanted in Iraq.
Why is Perle allowed to repeat that all nations were on the same page before the invasion? What horseshit! More endless spin on who supported the pre-emptive invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....he_Willing
http://www.answers.com/topic/l.....on-of-iraq
The “coalition of the willing” originally included 49 members of the UN, of those 4 signed on to send troops.
No one gets it. At some very near future point, Bush is going to make himself king for real, and that’s the end of it. They’re stalling because they know what’s going to happen, and so they don’t really care about courts and justice and things like that.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ #85,
The ThinkProgress article you’ve linked to is based on a Seattle Times article from early October, 2006. To my knowledge, there haven’t been any recent actions limiting Sen. Stevens’s access to DOJ info having anything to do with his role as a US Senator. Wev Shea, the (longtime past) ex-US Attorney for Alaska cited in the Seattle Times article as betting President Bush intervened directly in this matter last summer, has an ax to grind.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
This was touched on yesterday at Arkasas Blog where they via their newspaper editorial stopped just short of calling the National Guard to escort Griffin from his office…)
link to the blog post and editorial here.
snippet
:)
xargaw @ 91
Let’s hope we find out! Still clinging to Fitz’s words during his first press conference announcing the Libby indictment
“Truth is the engine of our justice system.” The whole world is watching!
allan_in_upstate @ 64
PatFitz [prosecuted the blind sheik! And stopped his followers from blowing up the Holland Tunnel. That’s all, nuthin’ much (snark)
Great work, Marcy and Jane!
I would have been tempted to respond to Jeffress’ whine by saying “Libby and his supporters tried to make a mockery of Justice, it would only be justice for us to make a mockery of them.”
But I suspect your tone will be more effective. *g*
While I’m ranting, what possible excuse is there to withhold the letters of current public officials? I can kind of see an argument for withholding letters from private citizens (I don’t agree with this argument, but at least I can understand it.), but what possible reason can there be to hide letters of support from current government officials? If my tax dollars paid for the paper, the ink, and the time spent to write the letter, what possible reason can there be to not let me see the letter?
{{{Hearts & Flowers for Jane and Marcy}}}
Frank,
See LHP’s post at 43.
We WANT to see them write letters on the paper we bought.
BWWAAHHAAAAAHHAAA.
Gotta love LHP.
All that chatter over the last seven years about what a brain Karl is. I don’t think so.
sy @ 66
The way I read the Fitz filing, the information on her staus has only subsequently been de-classified. Thus he could not previously use it (and had to suffer in silence while all sorts of shit slinging was sent his way).
The fact that it has now been de-classified ought to shut these people up–hey, apologies are even in order—but, but
NOOOOO. Them apoligize when they turn out to be completely wrong? when pigs fly, baby!
Helen @ 69
It is funny. Screwed up an easy case and made it harder. The case actually belonged to the guy who is now my law partner. he was NOT happy.
Works out just as well for us.
It’s going make it easier to point that out.
Repeatedly.
brendan @ 106
Oh, well, I am so frikkin’ sorry my analogy was not pure. I’ll reframe it as Rosemary’s baby’s blue blankie, if that will suffice.
Does Freddy’s (Thompson) wife have as good a (financial) deal as Rudy’d wife has?
Ladies,
you are an inspiration!!!!
I heart Firedoglake!
TeddySanFran @ 105
i could see her feeling qualified to use official stationary…. yeah!
Bearpaw @ 79
I wonder if she quickly — and very briefly — had cause to regret running off. (If it was known that you wanted to use her testimony in another trial, her disappearance may have been of the fatally permanent kind.)
No, she went to Holland I think, or Belgium. She ahd a fortune inartwork stored in Europe, enough to live on quite confortably.
To Jane and Marcy,
Wonderful Letter. I hope they release the names We should be in on this it’s not up to the lawyers, judges, and politcians, to decide. It’s up to the people…we the people…
Julian
Kathleen @ 108
Perle is a cheese eating invasion monkey.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 123
Anybody that has to sleep with that had better get something out of it.
noen @ 34
Yeah! And you should see their dogs… :-)
allan_in_upstate @ 128
Cheese, you are too kind.
Thinking about the letters being released, I still think the piles of letters demanding justice and severe punishment from outraged citizens will dwarf the few letters Libby was able to scare up from personal friends and supporters. Again, I can see Walton, ala “Miracle on 34th Street,” being swamped by postal workers dragging bag after bag of letters from outraged citizens and nearly burying him at his desk!
I think Libby’s people don’t want the press to know how few letters they got in support when compared to the other side’s outpouring.
Why, it would be akin to kicking a good man when he is down.
OfT: Progress! — now with RGJoe video.
I was not planning on posting at FDL today - I have too much work to catch up on, but I couldn’t help but check in this afternoon — and this post twisted my arm enough to type:
Jane & Marcy — Thank you for representing us average (but extraordinary) citizens with your powerful letter to Judge Walton. I love all of the bloggers that write here. But I have to say the women bloggers here — make me proud to be a woman…and FDL reader/commenter!
Since the Republicans decided to make presidential spousal relationships an issue back in the Clinton years, well okay, lets do it. What comes around goes around… boys.
TeddySanFran @ 133
What a dweep.
kdh22 @ 83
In my experience, most defense attorneys are hardworking people just trying to do their level best to protect their client’s civil rights and make sure they get a fair trial.
Weird things happen in these so called “trials of the century”, people tend to start acting carzy because the stakes get ratcheted up.
looseheadprop @ 119
This is so unlikely that I believe we do not keep a picture of flying pigs in the FDL picture bank.
And when I say “boys”, I’m speaking of Freddy and Rudy. Primarily.
“Our work has greatly heightened the interest and knowledge of the trial system among average citizens.” You can sure say that again Marcy and Jane.
After the 2000 Supreme Court Judicial Coup (the Selection of our President) I lost all faith in the impartiality of our justice system.
Reading that PDF posted from Jeffress was informative.
Why is there a history of not releasing letters to the public in the past? It would seem that if one knew that a letter could be released there would be less hanky panky and power punches pulled behind the scenes
Have there been any objections from those who wrote letters in favor of Libby facing a stiff sentence?
Let’s hope the Libby sentence rises above the influence of the rich, famous, or well positioned of this nation.
From
a peasant and soccer mom
Kathleen @ 108
Honestly, I don’t. These people are deeply anti-intellectual, and at every turn, they express the idea that an expert is just another opinion, of no more value than their own (and usually much less.)
They are the product of a so-called “think tank” system that was set up because conservatives didn’t like the conclusions real experts reached after studying foreign policy, economics, government, and more. So instead of a real intellectual environment where debate and competition of ideas results (however imperfectly) in the success of ideas that match reality, they have a system where you’re on the gravy train for life if you reach the desired conclusions, no matter how faulty your reasoning is, and you’re out on your ear if you on any basis question those same conclusions.
The result is people who are sure they’re right as long as they can come up with a good story that says they’re right. It wasn’t an act, they were sure they were right, and it was going to be easy, because their untested “reasoning” said it was so.
Peterr @ 9
That was my reaction, too. Team Libby seems not to care how long Scooter’s sentence is–and if so, they’re damned fools, because they don’t have a heck of a lot to appeal on.
Would letters released expose where some of the “roots” that Libby described to Judy are “connected?”
margaret @ 47
It is not just that this is our dime here. The American government owes its legitimacy and moral authority to the consent of the governed. We cannot consent unless informed.
Kathleen @ 143
Touche, Kat.
Just trying to ‘lay’ the ground work GOP, if you have in mind dredging up irrelevant crap to use against Senator Clinton, with respect to her husband, should the Senator become the Democratic nominee for president. I for one don’t mind a bit doing the payback thing. So start your ‘engines’ boys, if you can. Our engines are already running.
Redshift, thanks for that incisive and eloquent description.
Kathleen @ 140
To the contrary, there is a hjistory of being sure to trelease the letters from public figures
Bustednuckles @ 117
One of the reasons the generation that came of age after 1980 doesn’t understand about the relationship between this latest incarnation of the GOP and corruption is BECAUSE Wedtech and all sorts of GOP theft is not in their memory banks because at about that time Reagan’s people were strong-arming news organizations to stop them from reporting inconvenient truths about the administration and the capos within it.
And just as an aside, for all the grief that Bubba took for pardoning Marc Rich, Scooter Libby was Rich’s attorney who worked out the pardon with Clinton’s Justice Dept. There’s a lot more to the relationship between Bubba and Bush pere than meets the eye. There’s even a Wedtech connection through Webb Hubbell to Clinton’s Arkansas while he was governor.
Things aren’t always as they seem (and I’m not saying any of this to blame Clinton for anything other than being GOP-lite).
Cloudy and very very humid in Saint-Petersburg.
I saved this tidbit a while back, shortly after that comment Cheney made to Bob Schieffer on CBS claiming that he “hadn’t had occasion to” call/talk to Libby since his conviction:
Http://www.nypost.com/seven/03.....gesix_.htm
That Hudson Institute event took place before the CBS weekend “interview” of Cheney by Schieffer (Hudson is Libby’s employer).
THANK YOU!! THANK YOU, ladies, for a job well done. So appropriate, restrained, and so completely on point. Sorry to be late to post, but the cable went down and I have been internetless for hours!! Still catching up.
You ladies have done an excellent job of not only representing yourselves, but all of us out here in blogger land who sat and hit reload (not more than we should) all through the trial. All of us salute!!
EvilDrPuma @ 142
Of course they don’t care. Their job was never to defend Libby. It was to protect Cheney et al.
allan_in_upstate @ 64
As Jane would say, “Fly, little wignut, fly.”
GREAT letter!!!!!!!!!!!! I was wondering how you guys would respond to Jeffress “assertion.”
james @ 149
James has a very good memory. Feel free to remember here more often. Just because those scandals didn’t get the coverage they deserved, does not mean their shelf life has expired.
For some of them, there is a direct connection between bad acts committed then and who the bad actors are today.
The GOP recycled some of its bad guys.
I’d sure like to see Irve’s Hudson Institute timecards.
looseheadprop @ 155
Spiro
My dear and admired ladies.
This is very fine.
As youngsters we were set to memorize for recitiation poems, important documents and stirring speeches (kept us quiet so the teacher could get some work done). Carl Sandburg, Declaration of Independance, The Gettysberg Address, that sort of thing.
I have been reciting your letter out loud. It is wonderful. Gives me goosebumps. Hope Judge Walton feels the same, and lhp, hope he decides to release this week so you can play, too.
FYI, new thread
And I loved this one. Thanks to all firepups..)
james at #149:
Here is a refresher on Rich, who was an Israeli “intelligence asset” (as opposed to an outright spy like Pollard) and Clinton’s motiviation in pardoning him.
http://archive.salon.com/news/.....index.html
I was going to say the Republican outrage at Rich’s pardon is ironic in light of Bush’s subsequent foreign policy and the role of Libby in it, but doublethink is the better word.
pow wow @ 150
I KNEW I read that somewhere…after Cheney’s CBS remark I tried googling and couldn’t find it anywhere. Thank you for the link!!!
allan_in_upstate @ 64
DEFEND the blind Sheik???? Jeese Louise–if I remember correctly, Fitz and Comey put him away (the old Sheik’s former Mosque is about a 5 minute walk from where I live, so I have a pretty clear memory of that trial…)
Jane’s work on the Plame scandal marks a turning point in our nation’s history, where the journalistic efforts of dedicated citizens proved to be substantially better than those found within the so-called free press.
It’s clear from these recent government scandals that corporate media barons are infinitely more interested in the rights they inherit under the First Amendment than in the concomitant responsibilities that they are supposed to bear under those same constitutional provisions. They’re glad to gain the benefits of the free press without bothering with the costs, e.g., accountability or transparency.
It’s also abundantly clear that high-quality websites such as Firedoglake are doing a much better job of satisfying our nation’s current needs for a free press, and the larger legal question is how we can transfer those First Amendment protections from the likes of Murdoch and Sulzberger to the real free-press heirs of Paine and Madison, namely Jane, Marcy, Christy, Josh, Glenn, etc.
kdh22 @ 83
As a Peasant and soccer mom I attended several days of the trial. When Fitz was addressing the Jury with his closing remarks I will never forget when Jeffress bolted upright in his chair as Fitz was talking about the effect that Plame’s outing had negatively effected U.S. National Security.
The noise box(not sure what it is called) was turned on, both teams approached “the bench” (is that appropriate?) for an exchange with Walton. Within a few minutes the noise box was turned off and Fitz started exactly where he had left off describing to the Jury what seemed to me a basic description of how Plames outing by Libby (and we know others) had undermined National Security.
pow wow @ 150
Connected at the roots $$$$?
brendan @ 160
What were the goods that Rich had on Clinton?
How were the goods collected on Clinton? Amdocs..Comverse Insofy?
Why was Fox forced to remove this four part series from their website? This four part report by Carl Cameron soon after 9/11 describes how Israeli based communication systems have had access to most phone records in the U.S.
http://www.informationclearing.....le7545.htm
WOO HOO!! from Loo Hoo
pow wow @ 150
but we all know cheney’s word is as true as the word of god. satanic mass-murdering demon.
One and half years tacked on for Scoots attempt at writing fiction.
Please, please, please — no letup. This trial isn’t even begun it’s last laps (unless the judge sends the Scooter off to the slammer (slammer, hell, it will be like the summer camps, complete with tennis courts, the Watergate boys vacationed at (some evening finding God — who ever she is.) Anyway it’s got to be at least nine months for the first appeals to slowly, slowly wend their way through the courts. The apologists are just waiting for a let up, so they can move in and change the subject.
Thank you!
In light of the Libby sentencing and the Supreme Court decision (to piss on women and all of our civil rights) and our rapidly approaching July 4th celebrations, it behooves all candidates to describe to Americans (of all stripes) their vision of what America can be.
I’ve heard it said that Mitt Romney is very rich and that he’s Mormon. How would that shape his vision of the America he would like to exist? Would we all be peasant workers except for Mitt and a few of his select friends? Would we all be converted to Catholic (per SC decisis) or Mormon (per Mittopia)?
Rudy Giuliani seems confused about events of 9/11 where he ‘lead’ America out of the dark. Perhaps he can think on it a while and recall the past, so he can begin to think about America of the future?
Hillary Clinton seems to have a clear picture of the America she wants to lead us to…at least it’s the one the polls say Americans might want. Can she lead? Are robots allowed to be President?
Barack Obama plainly laid out his view of the Iraq war during a recent interview. His view of things sounds a lot like John Kerry’s. He said we need to stand up the Iraq government so we can leave. I don’t know if he really believes we can finish the job Bush has begun or how many people he would leave in Iraq after we withdraw, but I know of nobody who voted for a Dem Congress in order to ’stay the course’. Obama’s idea of health care reform sounds about as wooden and irrelevant as Clinton’s, so let’s not go there. Does he have an image of a future America that’s really different than last week?
I poke sticks at those candidates becuase they’re getting a lot of media attention, but all the candidates need to rev up their speechifying skills and tell us what they want America to be.
A well-informed electorate being necessary…
“Our work has greatly heightened the interest and knowledge of the trial system among average citizens.”
I usually lurk but your letter to the judge inspired me to post and give you a big thank you for what you have created here. You have opened a window on politics and law that has taught me so much.
All of you here are true Patriots ( not to mention hilarious) and my heros. My heart breaks for what is going on with this admin., but Firedoglake has propelled me from a participant into an active, involved, contributing participant and given me hope that we CAN effect change.
Let the sun shine in!
Here is what I would like to see happen. Walton allows letters to go public. Libby gets three years starting NOW, not after appeals run out. Darth Cheney starts to wonder how well a guy named “Scooter” will hold up in the big house and what Scooter might be willing to say to get his sentence reduced. Cheney makes the call to CACIC(court appointed comander in chief) and tells him it’s time to play the pardon card. This should put us about July 4th. By that time, Gonzales has just been forced to resign, Rove has a desk full of travel brochures for Argentina and to celebrate, Cheney invites Scooter to go “hunting” with him.
Let’s face it. Libby WILL be pardoned. Wouldn’t it be better to have it happen 15 months before the elections instead of Jan ‘09?
I think Team Libby delayed their filing because they wanted a look at Fitzgerald’s motion.
Here, %*#&ing here, ladies!
Kathleen @ 166
It has something to do with a software program called ProMIS that was developed by Inslaw Technologies. The guy who developed it was driven into bankruptcy after his program was appropriated by the Feds.
Pollard used a prototype of the technology to hack into computers and then the info on the disks was automatically uploaded to orbiting satellites for transmission overseas.
ProMIS was actually mentioned in a news blurb shoortly after 9/11 when there was speculation that bin Laden had gotten his hands on it. That blurb, like Bush’s unfortunate, but true, Crusade remark was not repeated.
first — very well-put, here!
now, as i assume everyone here knows
by now, “big media” has also filed
a memo of law in support of access
to the libby-supporter-letters. . .
i’ll be blogging on their very-
compelling arguments shortly, but
i will note that even libby’s defense
team, in their filings of today, seem
to concede that most of the letters
will be public — now, it is all over,
save for the shouting — that being,
whether they get released before sentencing.
the big media brief really nails ted
wells’ team for not playing straight
with the kushner precedent. . .
a very entertaining read, indeed. . .
safe journeys to marcy — continued
well-being to jane. . .
LATER — i ended up with a more
populist piece, on the “access”
legal arguments/memos story,
tonight, than i had envis-
ioned ealier — mainly due to
serendipity, in comments,
and bmaz’s provsion of a
link — on my blog. . .
so — while the “bad ole
big media” arguments are more
concise, at least after i edited
‘em (he he!) — and mostly free of
that tire-some legal jargon, the
populist “amicus petition” has a
rather alluring charm, all its own. . .
do take a squint. . .