As I stated in Wilson? Yeah! Fitz? Feh!:

“Next time you hear someone sing the praises of Fitz, the special prosecutor remember he didn’t get the guys who ruined the career of the patriotic Mrs. Wilson, and he let the guilty guys wriggle off the hook.”

In Relevant Conduct and Scooter’s Sentence I offer my analysis to the effect that Scooter is looking at substantially more than Fitzgerald is asking for. Please check it out.

“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”

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Kucinich to debate himself on Faux.

With ‘I never met a camera I didn’t like’ Biden ; )

Your willingness to share your professional skills (and billable hours :) with the Lake is a very generous gift.

Hope I’m not presumptious to puruse this question, but do Germany (or other nations) assert jurisdiction over extra-national human rights crimes?

I’m curious about mapping other nations’ jurisdictional assertions against overseas US military/NSA/spook assets.

If my query is off the mark, please feel free to ignore.

Hugh, would this also apply to prosecutions in Germany and Belgium (or other nations) which – IIRC – allow prosecution in their national courts for war crimes/human rights crimes comitted anywhere on the planet?

It’s complicated. I was wrong to say that US citizens could not be tried before the ICC. It is just extremely unlikely. US nationals could come before the ICC at least in theory if they committed crimes in a country which is a signatory to the ICC. This has never happened and is unlikely to happen for two reasons.

The principal way the US has gotten around the ICC is by article 98 or bilateral agreements which stipulate that US nationals will not be referred to the ICC. The US has about 100 such agreements. Some, however, are restricted to US military personnel only and many are with non-signatory countries.

The second way the US has addressed this problem is through a different kind of diplomatic pressure. Because the political costs of such a prosecution vis a vis the US would be extremely high, countries such as Germany defer prosecutions to our legal system which will, in fact, choose not to make them.

Belgium, for its part, can assert universal jurisdiction but that is different from actually practising it. The principle is very controversial and so it is easier to squelch such prosecutions than face an angry US.

TiredFed @ 174

go directly to jail. do not pass go. do not collect $200.

Love it.

707, TiredFed.

I was “the bank.”

late to the party, but still going to post:
just heard on air america, someone spewing MY
talking point: that cheney is being wound down.
(cia asked to destroy log at vp res., the cute i-am-my-own grandpa photos, etc.) cheney will leave before sept. of medical issues, jeb will take over the vp for the good of the country(!) and then be asked to run for pres.

What the hey. I say not, $50 to FDL and a dinner (time/place to be determined)