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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 00:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-727302&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stolen Dormouse @ 386&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I got to this thread late, but just wanted to note that the Scandanavian countries have all but wiped out MRSA infections. In fact, &lt;em&gt;when a U.S. resident traveling&lt;/em&gt; in Scandanavia &lt;em&gt;is hospitalized, they put him or her in isolation until they can assure they are MRSA-negative (by testing or treatment)&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stolen Dormouse, I love your handle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for this information.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have provided the most devastatingly succinct indictment of America’s health &lt;strike&gt;care&lt;/strike&gt; economics I have ever seen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your description is incredibly important - if you would be so kind as to provide a link, I’d be grateful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your timing is exquisite.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MSM are obsessed with one poor soul with drug resistant disease confined when he came to America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where our drug resistant Staph is so prevalent that we - by your report - are treated as though  MRSA infected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re not assumed to be risk-free.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re assumed to be a risk until treated or tested negative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have to show we’re safe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just as teh precautionary principle requires.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unless we can prove otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA using precautionary principle based decisions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS - wombat, I really love your commments!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>I got to this thread late, but just wanted to note that the Scandanavian countries have all but wiped out MRSA infections. In fact, <em>when a U.S. resident traveling</em> in Scandanavia <em>is hospitalized, they put him or her in isolation until they can assure they are MRSA-negative (by testing or treatment)</em>.</p>
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<p>Stolen Dormouse, I love your handle.</p>
<p>Thank you for this information.</p>
<p>You have provided the most devastatingly succinct indictment of America’s health <strike>care</strike> economics I have ever seen.</p>
<p>Great work.</p>
<p>Your description is incredibly important &#8211; if you would be so kind as to provide a link, I’d be grateful.</p>
<p>Your timing is exquisite.</p>
<p>MSM are obsessed with one poor soul with drug resistant disease confined when he came to America.</p>
<p>Where our drug resistant Staph is so prevalent that we &#8211; by your report &#8211; are treated as though  MRSA infected.</p>
<p>We’re not assumed to be risk-free.</p>
<p>We’re assumed to be a risk until treated or tested negative.</p>
<p>We have to show we’re safe.</p>
<p>Just as teh precautionary principle requires.</p>
<p>And Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA.</p>
<p>Unless we can prove otherwise.</p>
<p>Looks like Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA using precautionary principle based decisions.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; wombat, I really love your commments!</p>
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		<title>By: Stolen Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stolen Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I got to this thread late, but just wanted to note that the Scandanavian countries have all but wiped out MRSA infections. In fact, when a U.S. resdient traveling in Scandanavia is hospitalized, they put him or her in isolation until they can assure they are MRSA-negative (by testing or treatment).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to this thread late, but just wanted to note that the Scandanavian countries have all but wiped out MRSA infections. In fact, when a U.S. resdient traveling in Scandanavia is hospitalized, they put him or her in isolation until they can assure they are MRSA-negative (by testing or treatment).</p>
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		<title>By: Torch and Pitchfork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torch and Pitchfork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m on one this morning.  I’m writing a letter to Cindy to thank her on my son’s behalf(16). And ordering “NO Spitting” signs in three languages for all the bus stops and loading docks on campus.  If I can figure out how I will post my version of the story of the “Second Terrorist”.  later.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m on one this morning.  I’m writing a letter to Cindy to thank her on my son’s behalf(16). And ordering “NO Spitting” signs in three languages for all the bus stops and loading docks on campus.  If I can figure out how I will post my version of the story of the “Second Terrorist”.  later.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice observation, thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Torch and Pitchfork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torch and Pitchfork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Help ikes1&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Torch and Pitchfork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torch and Pitchfork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As lurker it’s my duty to read all the way to the bottom of the posts and I usually do.  Today I have to respond to &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Conniptionfit@51.&quot;&gt;Conniptionfit@51.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This may have never happened but imagine a room, back in late November with Nancy and Al Gore and Harry Reid discussing stratagy.&lt;br /&gt;
Al Says: look Nancy you’re a lady, any effort to impeach is gonna look like you just want the office for yourself.  So Harry say’s:  Look Al I will build the case carefully, like a Mormon Bishop form Las Vegas would.  If I can’t manage to impeach by 2008 then you got to run.&lt;br /&gt;
Ok so Al is being 100% truthful when he says he doesn’t want the job. 100% truthful when he implies if the herd can’t bring Climate change to the forefront he might run.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And 100% truthful when he say’s he hasn’t ruled it out.&lt;br /&gt;
He WILL run if he has to.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Watch!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Off to work at 7.  I help cook for over 5000 today, with a crew of 17.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As lurker it’s my duty to read all the way to the bottom of the posts and I usually do.  Today I have to respond to <a href="mailto:Conniptionfit@51.">Conniptionfit@51.</a><br />
This may have never happened but imagine a room, back in late November with Nancy and Al Gore and Harry Reid discussing stratagy.<br />
Al Says: look Nancy you’re a lady, any effort to impeach is gonna look like you just want the office for yourself.  So Harry say’s:  Look Al I will build the case carefully, like a Mormon Bishop form Las Vegas would.  If I can’t manage to impeach by 2008 then you got to run.<br />
Ok so Al is being 100% truthful when he says he doesn’t want the job. 100% truthful when he implies if the herd can’t bring Climate change to the forefront he might run.  </p>
<p>And 100% truthful when he say’s he hasn’t ruled it out.<br />
He WILL run if he has to.  </p>
<p>Watch!</p>
<p>Off to work at 7.  I help cook for over 5000 today, with a crew of 17.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 07:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-726208&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;stratocruiser @ 95&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I always sing “In-a-gadda-Da-Vida” while I’m washing my hands, but the drum solo gets kinda messy around the sink.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And where was the spew alert on that one?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-726208"><em>stratocruiser @ 95</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I always sing “In-a-gadda-Da-Vida” while I’m washing my hands, but the drum solo gets kinda messy around the sink.</p>
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<p>And where was the spew alert on that one?</p>
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		<title>By: wombat</title>
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		<dc:creator>wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 07:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;G’day Margot,&lt;br /&gt;
Tea tree oil is a good antiseptic (against fungi as well as most bacteria) but too toxic to use on wounds or systemically. It may work to decrease the colonisation that underlies recurrent superficial Staph infection (ie furunculosis, which was the problem in the massive outbreak of community acquired MRSA in the californian prison system a couple of years ago) but not for invasive infection (wounds, cellulitis, osteomyelitis, septic arthritis, bacteraemia, UTIs, pneumonia, endocarditis and meningitis). One important point is that Staph (of all species) is a normal commensal of human skin, and is specifically adapted to incorporate antimicrobial resistance mechanisms from other organisms. We cannot “win” by eliminating Staph., we can only learn to live with it (bit of a philosophical point there: GOP “philosophy” is doomed on a micro scale too!). One other point - we have a very anthropocentric view of microorganisms: in terms of biomass, “they”, not we, are the dominant life form on this planet, and most of our “antibiotics” are actually derived from microbial defence systems, adapted (temporarily) for our benefit. Bugs will, of course, outevolve us. Just think of resistance as evolution in action.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G’day Margot,<br />
Tea tree oil is a good antiseptic (against fungi as well as most bacteria) but too toxic to use on wounds or systemically. It may work to decrease the colonisation that underlies recurrent superficial Staph infection (ie furunculosis, which was the problem in the massive outbreak of community acquired MRSA in the californian prison system a couple of years ago) but not for invasive infection (wounds, cellulitis, osteomyelitis, septic arthritis, bacteraemia, UTIs, pneumonia, endocarditis and meningitis). One important point is that Staph (of all species) is a normal commensal of human skin, and is specifically adapted to incorporate antimicrobial resistance mechanisms from other organisms. We cannot “win” by eliminating Staph., we can only learn to live with it (bit of a philosophical point there: GOP “philosophy” is doomed on a micro scale too!). One other point &#8211; we have a very anthropocentric view of microorganisms: in terms of biomass, “they”, not we, are the dominant life form on this planet, and most of our “antibiotics” are actually derived from microbial defence systems, adapted (temporarily) for our benefit. Bugs will, of course, outevolve us. Just think of resistance as evolution in action.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 07:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-726121&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;EvilDrPuma @ 21&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-726114&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LoudounLib @ 15&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Exactly…and none of that cursory passing-the-hands-under-running-water-for-a-few-seconds brand of hand washing…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My mother’s physician instructed her to sing “Happy Birthday” to herself twice while washing: once while applying the soap thoroughly, and again while rinsing with hot water.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Happy Birthday? &lt;/em&gt; Damn, you really are evil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-726121"><em>EvilDrPuma @ 21</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-726114"><em>LoudounLib @ 15</em></a></p>
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<p>Exactly…and none of that cursory passing-the-hands-under-running-water-for-a-few-seconds brand of hand washing…</p>
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<p>My mother’s physician instructed her to sing “Happy Birthday” to herself twice while washing: once while applying the soap thoroughly, and again while rinsing with hot water.</p>
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<p><em>Happy Birthday? </em> Damn, you really are evil.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowdog jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowdog jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 07:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i is cruising for our vast left wing EPU here, but i had something i wanted to share from the medico/biochem world of modern imagining:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Specially created for Harvard biology students, this eight-minute computer-animated film reveals the beauty and hidden cycle of intricate organic mechanisms at work at the molecular level.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/_archives/2006/9/29/2354365.html&quot;&gt;http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/_a.....54365.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i is cruising for our vast left wing EPU here, but i had something i wanted to share from the medico/biochem world of modern imagining:</p>
<blockquote><p>Specially created for Harvard biology students, this eight-minute computer-animated film reveals the beauty and hidden cycle of intricate organic mechanisms at work at the molecular level.</p>
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<p><a href="http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/_archives/2006/9/29/2354365.html">http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/_a&#8230;..54365.html</a></p>
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