Some of you who have been reading here for a while may know that I am someting of an epidemiology geek. I am utterly fascinated by diseases, how they spread, how they're treated, how they're adapting and evolving, and what we can do in our daily lives to reduce the spread of dangerous diseases.
Something popped up on my radar today that I've been expecting, but sincerely hoping not to see. A strain of drug-resistant staph is taking root in parts of the country and rapidly spreading, particularly in the poor neighborhoods of our major cities.
CHICAGO — Drug-resistant staph infections have spread to the urban poor, rising almost seven-fold in recent years in some Chicago neighborhoods, a new study finds.
Researchers said the crowded living conditions of public housing and jails may speed up the person-to-person spread of infection.
The superbugs, first seen mainly in hospitals and nursing homes, have turned up recently among athletes, prisoners and people who get illegal tattoos.
Called methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, these staph germs can cause skin infections that in rare cases have led to pneumonia, bloodstream infections and a painful, flesh-destroying condition. MRSA is hard to treat because the bacteria have developed resistance to the penicillin drug family.
Ah, yes, good old necrotizing fasciitis, the flesh-eating bacteria you heard so much about a few years ago, when it was being played to the American public as the bacteriological equivalent to the Killer Bee threat. Well, it's here, and the bulk of the drugs we use to treat staphylococcus are useless. These staph cells just laugh at penicillin as they trash your immune system and ravage your body.
As I said in one of my early posts here at the Lake, a society is only as healthy as its poorest parts of town, epidemiologically speaking. Diseases begin where living conditions are poor and overcrowded, but they have a tendency to become upwardly mobile very fast:
Dr. Susan Gerber of Chicago's Department of Public Health said it would be a mistake to assume the infection isn't also in affluent neighborhoods. The study looked only at people using the public hospital system. The infection rate in the general population is unknown.
"This is an equal opportunity bacteria," Gerber said.
Oh, but really, they all are. Many times, these types of drug-resistant "superbugs" are found in hospitals, where surviving several rounds of drugs and disinfectants results in generations of ever hardier and more resistant pathogens, and hospitals aren't just for the poor.
Couple this with Jeralyn's post earlier about the Georgia man with drug-resistant TB who violated medical instructions (possibly infecting two plane-loads of trans-Atlantic passengers and who knows how many face-to-face contacts with a strain of super-virulent tuberculosis in the process) and it's clear that there are some serious holes in our front-line defenses against infectious disease. But this, of course, is the problem with for-profit health care. The most vulnerable people in the United States are the very people who are least likely to be able to afford to get help, and that's going to cost all of us, eventually.
And no, I'm not impressed, Mr. Obama, with your new health care plan. Your intentions are good, but you're still leaving the health insurance companies ultimately in charge of who gets health care and how effective it is, and that's just not going to cut it. What we need here is a total paradigm shift, which (from what I understand) is the message at the heart of Michael Moore's newest film, "Sicko".
It's precisely this sort of boot-licking obesiance to genuinely evil corporations that makes me so discouraged with our current batch of pols on both sides of the aisle. The massive companies that control broadcasting, health care, and ultimately politics want you to believe that it's impossible for a society to provide free health care to its citizens. They pollute the discourse with endless urban legends about the horrors of socialized medicine. Of course, if Americans could be bothered to venture outside our own borders, we'd see for ourselves how easy it is to get quality health care in every major European nation as well as just north of us in Canada.
My Dad told me years ago that nothing turns your ass into a target quite like burying your head in the sand, but regarding the dangers of infectious disease and our woefully inadequate health care system, that's exactly our current posture. As long as a bunch of people with high school educations and accountants' mentalities control the quality of our medical care, we are begging for a catastrophe.
Last night in a guest slot on KIRO-AM with David Goldstein, I told a caller that out-of-control capitalism is every bit as dangerous as out-of-control communism, that if we are to survive as a nation, we have to erect a wall between commercial interests and the machinery of the state, just as much as we profess to have a wall between church and state. When policy is tailored to the desires of corporations, everyone loses except the wealthy white men in the corner offices.
Of course, they get sick, too, and it may just take a devastating pandemic disaster before the Bill Frists and Richard Scrushys of this country are forced to relinquish their choke-hold on medical treatment. The United States never seems to do anything pro-actively these days, I guess. Instead, we plunge headlong from one disaster to the next and (if forced) maybe learn something from our dramatic failures. (Iraq, anyone?)
In the meantime, wash your hands, please. Thank you.



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Hiya TRex!
now to tell the folks downstairs, and to read…
Zed!!
TREX! HOWZIT?
It was good to see the home folks back in Kentucky take down another one of the corporate medical weenies when the Dems spanked Bruce Lunsford in the primary last week. I think he’s supposed to have spent somewhere between $5M-$10M of his own money (or at least what he ripped off from his shareholders prior to bankruptcy) in order to get 21% of the vote
(waving to TRex)
Evening, gang!
How is everyone?
good here TRex, hope it’s the same with you!
TRex, were you a cranky or grumpy theropod today after your long night last nite?
What kind of drug-resistant fuckery is this?!?!
Handwashing is the key! You never know where someone else has been.
Evening all. Great post TRex. Our health care system is a national disgrace and no one seems to want to confront the central issues. The large (and growing) numbers of uninsured, along with growing wealth inequality, are creating the foundations for a public health nightmare that will impact everyone.
I am grumpy!!!! This is unusual for me.Argh……………..
Suzanne @ 8
Not especially. I’ll be funny again soon, I promise. I’ve just got a lot on my mind of late.
EPU’d, OT, whatever, I’m putting this here from the last thread cuz I think it, goddammit:
I am starting to get tired of this. I don’t feel strongly one way or the other about Gore running (except that he did hire my college classmate Naomi Wolf to be his consulant in 2000, and someone more full of sh*t I have NEVER known)….but I am tired of this stupid game. If he doesn’t categorically say I AM NOT GOING TO RUN, that means he might…..and it means he might, depending on which way the political winds blow. I don’t like that. I don’t LIKE being jerked around.
Yeah. What *I* said.
Now, I will quietly and humbly read Sir Rex’s post.
triciawrites @ 10
Exactly…and none of that cursory passing-the-hands-under-running-water-for-a-few-seconds brand of hand washing…
De-fanging the FDA (as in de-funding)hasn’t helped any of this one whit, either.
triciawrites @ 10
I’ve become a much more conscientous hand-washer since my mother was diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis a couple of years ago. The condition kind of requires her to be pretty careful about sanitary conditions, and I’ve tried hard to adopt her handwashing regimen even though I don’t and in all probability never will have the same disease, just because it makes sense.
stupid computer crashed and i missed the whole race for ZED!
oh well.
Please tell all your teenage or pre-teen family members who like to write that the Nation is having an essay contest about the 2008 prez elections. More info here.
oddmommy, I’m with you.
TRex @ 6
Surrounded by poodles on the sofa while emptywheel types furiously and Kobe sleeps at her feet. He’s guarding her against something tonight and I don’t know what. Maybe me?
LoudounLib @ 15
My mother’s physician instructed her to sing “Happy Birthday” to herself twice while washing: once while applying the soap thoroughly, and again while rinsing with hot water.
I want a real health care system in this country. Not one held together by corporate bottom lines, bandaids, and a prayer that the looming healthcare disaster doesn’t occur on their watch.
Well said, sir.
But isn’t epidemiology inherently full of Hobson’s choices? Control today’s infection, and that more or less inevitably leads to the development of new strains of bugs that are resistant to what was used to control today’s infection. Keep your powder dry today for tomorrow’s pandemic (or bioterror attack, if you believe the wingnuts and science fiction writers like Greg Bear), and people die today.
The meta-question is “who decides,” and I’m still waiting for the progressive community to come up with an answer that is unequivocally better than “the market.”
Suzanne @ 22
Amen. What we have is not a system, it’s an entitlement program for the rich.
EvilDrPuma @ 24
As well as a system of perverse incentives which actively discourage early, effective treatment (which costs the insurance companies money).
triciawrites @ 10
When I was little we had to sing the whole ABC’s in kindergarten while we washed.
Hi everybody. TRex, couldn’t agree more:
“It’s precisely this sort of boot-licking obesiance to genuinely evil corporations that makes me so discouraged with our current batch of pols on both sides of the aisle. The massive companies that control broadcasting, health care, and ultimately politics want you to believe that it’s impossible for a society to provide free health care to its citizens. They pollute the discourse with endless urban legends about the horrors of socialized medicine. Of course, if Americans could be bothered to venture outside our own borders, we’d see for ourselves how easy it is to get quality health care in every major European nation as well as just north of us in Canada.”
Stated with a succinct elegance I can only envy.
EDP that’s a great idea. I want to post signs at work about hand washing, but my silly supervisors don’t have much in the way of cojones and they don’t want to “offend”. WTF?
TRex – I’m gonna get you for this. I started looking at the title you chose and now I’m hearing the old Roger Miller song in my head – “Ya can’t roller skate in a buffalo herd” Jeebus!
burnspbesq – just a shout out for Greg Bear! worth reading, definitely worth reading!
“…equal opportunity bacteria.” Never met a host it didn’t like!!! Ironically, these super-bugs are our own fault, the over-use of anti-biotics to treat the mundane, usage of numerous anti-bacterial soaps and sanitizers, etc… Bacteria evolves in whatever environment is available(be it under the polar ice, or near volcanic flumes deep under the sea…)! We need to be aware and vigilant!!!
Hi, gang. I share your interest in diseases, Trex. Ebola was the bug that caught my attention. Have you ever read “Ebola” by William T. Close, M.D.? He was with the WHO in (then) Zaire in 1976 for the first outbreak.
I’m very impressed by any medical personnel going into an area to deal with an outbreak of something and do the incredible detective work to figure out what it is, how it spreads, how to treat it, and how it started.
Not sure anyone figured out where ebola came from precisely, but it’s a great book. And he’s the father of Glenn Close, the actress.
Insurance companies are for-profit entities. Their concern is that you cost them as little as possible. My grandson was born with only one kidney, and therefore almost impossible to insure. Who needs healthcare more than people with “pre-existing conditions”? Yet, because they might endanger profit for the insurers, they are denied.
burnspbesq @ 23
the government. Unequivocally better, since in those first world nations where the government has taken firm control, stats are as good, or better, than the US in almost all cases, and costs are substantially less.
SusanD @ 19
Ditto!
Back during WWII, when government wage controls kept wages from rising, companies began to offer health insurance benefits to attract and keep workers. Before then, less than half the population had insurance.
What people want is health care, not health insurance. Yes, it has to be paid for — but despite my undergraduate degree in economics, no one has yet explained to me why it is best done via insurance companies.
Except, of course, the old standby of “that’s the way we’ve always done it.”
Consider only the amount of time and money spent on the overhead in hospitals and the offices of medical care providers handling the dozens and dozens of difference medical care plans offered through dozens and dozens of different insurers, each with their own rules and systems and what-not. Every — and I mean every — medical records administrator I have ever dealt with would absolutely cheer at having a single administrative structure to handle medical billings and payments, instead of the mish-mash of the current so-called system.
If the military ever stops insuring dependents they will lose a zillion recrutes.
oddmommy @ 14
I know better than to disagree with a lady, especially an angry lady … *g*
I do not think Gore is jerking anyone around, I think he is playing it smart by waiting until the fall to announce. By then, the other candidates will look stale and there will be a groundswell of support for an experienced, ethical candidate. Ding
Timing, in politics as in s*x, is everything !!! *g*
Peterr @ 36
I don’t think I have insurance. I have military doctors and a military pharmacy. The only time I did anything civilian in the last 4 years was the vaccines against HPV.
TRex
i am cloroxing my keyboard and chugging a hydrogen peroxide latte as i write to tell you that MRSA ate ALL the chest muscles off my neighbor after a bypass operation.
your fountain pen friend, “white squirrel”
SnarKassandra @ 26
I’ve been thinking of singing “American Pie,” but I don’t want to get too shriveled.
What people want is health care, not health insurance.
Exactly, Peterr. Yet, every proposed solution I’ve seen proposed is for health insurance coverage – not health care.
CTuttle @ 31
In reality, we are in a never ending arms race with the bacteria. We adapt new ways to fight them off and they evolve new ways to beat our protections. Anti-bacterial soaps, etc. have relatively little impact as they rely primarily on alcohol and similar chemical mechanisms. The overuse of antibiotics (particularly for “prophylactic” purposes), is a much greater problem, as are people who fail to take ALL of their medicine. The problem is actually much greater in the developing world than here or in Europe and Japan, but given globalization and rapid movements of people around the world, no one is isolated anymore and the local is truly global.
Meant to include this link on the history of insurance as a workplace benefit.
Peterr @ 36 says
Which is about the worst reason/excuse there is for doing things.
Necrotizing fascitis!
dakine01 @ 45
Which is about the worst reason/excuse there is for doing things.
Other than right-wing ideology, that is.
SusanD @ 19
muchas gracias. : )
KM, did you
forgetremember to log out?TRex @ 6
Tuckered after the fun last night! You did us proud!
Petrocelli @ 38
Yeah, well I’m starting to feel royally screwed. I’m sorry, but if he doesn’t get in the race real soon, he’s going to lose my vote. We’ve spent 6 years being jerked around by a jerk-off. And I’m all finished with politicians who don’t mind jerking me around just so they can get someone else’s vote.
EDP @ 47:
I think that IS right-wing ideology in a nutshell. A refusal to think, period and a refusal to challenge the CW cuz that’s jus the way things are…
A dear expat friend of mine, currently living in Germany, required emergency open-heart surgery last year, had trouble, spent several weeks in a coma, and 2 months as an in-patient and rehab patient. During this time a “home health-care worker” took care of her house and children, and when she finally got home in June, the expense she and her husband did incur was minimal and easily manageable. Simple fact: If that had happened to her in the US, she would have been financially ruined.
Period.
dakine01 @ 52
Except that, as we’ve seen in the last dozen years, the right wing today is anything except conservative. They’ll change any damned thing, as long as the change leads to less privacy, more warfare, the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer.
Ian Welsh @ 34
Not so fast, there, my friend. Because, you see, in this country everything is connected to everything.
The countries to which you refer have political systems where candidates for public office aren’t as beholden to private donors of campaign contributions as candidates are here in the good ol’ US of A. Do you seriously think that if Congress is put in charge of allocating biomedical research funds, we won’t get greivous distortions based on who yells the loudest, gives the most, or waves the most gruesome pictures at rallies?
RonD @ 53
There really is no dispute that we have the worst and most expensive healthcare system in the industrialized world.
God bless America.
Trex,
I wanted to commend you on this post. When you look back on your work someday, this post I know you will take pride in, this has sincere and important value to your community. I would suspect that you are a young person and have much to write about for a long time to come, you have earned profound mojo today. And you’re damn funny too, go forth and multiply….
EvilDrPuma @ 54
The fundamental reality is that the only thing conservatives (with a few exceptions) were ever concerned with “conserving” was elite privilege.
Jane Hamsher @ 20
Hard to find that kind of love and protection.
For me at least. Love my doggie boys and girls! They offer no shit like we contend with day in and day out.
EvilDrPuma @ 54
You’re right, conservative they’re not. But then we get lovely columns like Richard Cohen in today’s WaPoo about how Bush is actually a “neo-liberlal” cuz he’s used some liberal words, built the gov’t massively and expresses some supposed liberal sentiments. It was laughably bad across the board with such superficial analysis one of your freshman would be embarrassed to hand it in as a paper.
rcasa @ 58
I’m not that young. I’m turning 39 in twenty minutes!
DrDick @ 56
Then why do people saw we have the best?
Here’s my two cents worth:
My daughter is studying to be nurse, they have been told that washing hands, soap and rinse, once to ‘happy birthday’ is enough.
We have a reasonably good health care system here in aus. Not perfect (don’t think such exists). Can not for the life of me understand some US citizens are so adverse to some form of universal health care. (we still have private ins, as well)
TRex @ 62
Uh oh. Should I wake Aunt Betsy to ask where she put your cake????
well I was already down before I read that. I think I’ll just crawl off into the woods now.
When the superbug does arrive, arguments about our insurance system will be a moot point.
TRex @ 62
Well, happy birthday you sweet young theropod. (you are still only slightly older than my son).
About 16 months ago, emptywheel put up a post called “What they do with your money:”
I thought she was spot on with this post and I’ve always felt that one of the tragedies of the Democratic leadership is their inability to personalize things, particularly with healthcare.
John Kerry mentioned over and over in the 2004 campaign that 45 million Americans lacked health insurance. That’s a big number, but for 250 million Americans, that’s a big number of other people.
Why not say, “That’s one in six Americans. The next time you get on an airplane and breathe that recycled air, look at the two people sitting next to you and the three sitting right behind you and ask yourself which one of those people hasn’t been to a doctor in over a year.”
Or maybe, “Who hasn’t been to a doctor in over a year? Your waiter? The person who cleaned your hotel room? The people sitting next to you at the movies or ball game?”
I mean, there’s a way of stating problems so they sound huge and insurmountable and then there’s ways of stating them so they have some sort of relationship to the people you are trying to reach.
Snarkassandra @39: I don’t think I have insurance. I have military doctors and a military pharmacy.
You have insurance, even in the military. You have Tricare of some version or another.
I’m a military brat who married an AD member so I’ve been in the military medical system my entire life. I’ve been through the big changes and you don’t want to get me started on how Tricare was supposed to be an “improvement” over the old system.
As for drug-resistant bugs: I’ve got a double whammy. I’m both CMV and MRSA positive. The times I have serious MRSA outbreaks, IV vancomycin is the only antibiotic that still works. Problem is, I’m allergic to vanc. So I have to take medications that allow me to take the medication that will keep the MRSA from killing me this time.
TRex @ 62
Welcome to my world. BWA-hahahahahahaaaa….
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOUNG THEROPOD!
We love you so.
TRex @ 62
How many is that in *pod years?
My best friend, Lizzie, died of a staph infection about 10 years ago. She had MS and was confined to a wheelchair, and got a “bedsore” on her butt that she didn’t know was there. She thought she had the flu, and by the time she went to the hospital she was on the verge of heart failure. 8 hours later she was gone. I still miss her every day.
Wash your hands.
SnarKassandra @ 63
Because they don’t know or don’t want to know any better. At one time we DID have the best in most areas but those days are long in the past.
I know someone who got one of these super staph infections. He was hit by a cab in NYC and had a relatively minor surgery to fix up an injury to his leg. Sadly, he got the super staph infection in the hospital. Last I heard, he was on an IV for over one year. Yes, over a year.
SnarKassandra @ 63
This is American Exceptionalism in action. Many (most?) Americans are emotionally tied to the notion that we are literally the greatest nation on earth and that we have the best of everything. Not a very rational or realistic perspective, but quite prevalent.
SnarKassandra @ 63
Notice that many of these are the same people who say we’re winning in Iraq.
Good thing Gonzales isn’t the AG in China.
The Guardian
After Gore’s coyness at the Oscars, I am going to feel really betrayed if he DOESN’T jump in eventually. As of now, I don’t blame him for not giving our awful corporate media the excuse to tear him apart.
AZ Matt @ 78
Here Bush would give him a better job.
SnarKassandra @ 63
Because we have the capacity to do the most amazing things. We’ve got more gizmos and drugs and you-name-its, which can take on the most incredible things . . . but it is matched with one of the least equitable, most wasteful systems for doling out the care we provide.
Case in point: preventive care. If poor urban and rural areas had quality clincs, the emergency care expenses would be lowered tremendously, because folks wouldn’t wait until a minor situation develops into a major catastrophe.
Sir Esteemed Petrocelli, I respect your point. But the bottom line is, I believe folks have begun to idealize Al Gore, because, God help us, after the horrors that Bush has wrought, we need SOMETHING to idealize. And that is how Al the 2000 loser has come to be Al the 2007 messiah — when actually, he is no less a politician than any of the rest of them.
That said, I will wholeheartedly echo OKk’s point (if I correctly understand it) that WHOEVER the Democrats run will be worth supporting, over whatever unspeakable ghoul the repubs finally settle on.
EvilDrPuma @ 77
… and that the Earth is flat …
DrDick #56, that was my first personal experience with a loved one in a foreign healthcare program, and it allowed me to see very clearly the reality versus the type of industry propaganda so vehemently spewed during the Clinton’s effort to reform the system in the early 90s.
Universal healthcare. For LESS than we spend now.
People seem totally unable to grasp that we’re being shafted that badly.
Petrocelli @ 83
And Theropods played with little children six thousand years ago.
RonD @ 84
And they get better quality care as seen by the fact that the US has a lower life expectancy than any other industrialized nation (for most of Europe and Japan it is around 80) and the highest infant mortality.
SnarKassandra @ 63
Because, dear Cassie, contrary to what some people would like to believe, there IS a dispute.
dakine01 @ 85
TRex haven’t we talked to you before about not playing with your food?
dakine #85,
You mean you didn’t know there were dinosaurs on the Ark?
I want someone to ask them who shoveled out the Brontosaurus stables.
burnspbesq @ 87
You can also find people to dispute the existence of global warming or the descent of humans from Miocene apes. I give them equal credence.
dakine01 @ 85
Yes, it’s only been in the last thousand years that young are admonished Not to play with their food!
EvilDrPuma @ 90
Or that the earth revolves around the sun.
When I was in the hospital last year, after some really serious surgery, I was preparing to leave when I was told that I had been infected with a drug resistent pathogen. My release was delayed because my medicaid had not yet kicked in and the antibiotic, the last antibiotic in the fight against it cost over $400 per dose.
Years earlier I had read excerpts in Newsday from Laurie Garrett’s book “The Coming Plague” which had been written almost a decade ago.
Once the pathogens get ahead of the anibiotic research, we’re phuqued.
DrDick @ 86
Sorry, correlation is NOT causation. There are a number of other factors at work there. And I suspect you know that.
I always sing “In-a-gadda-Da-Vida” while I’m washing my hands, but the drum solo gets kinda messy around the sink.
Jane Hamsher @ 71
Awwwwwwww.
*blushes*
I love you, too.
Oddmommy said:
I agree with you on this. What amazes me is how quickly the idealizing turns to vilification – Case in point: Nancy Pelosi.
Or vice versa. Case in point: Al Gore.
Always looking for a saviour, and then the saviour turns out to have feet of clay, just like the rest of us.
It’s gonna take more that a hero.
stratocruiser @ 95
:) :)
(not sure if I have this totally correct, but I’m putting it out there — someone please correct me if I’m wrong about the UK health care system!)
My friend in England has an elderly mother who is in a residential home (their version of a nursing home). From what he’s explained to me, her board and care are free, or at a very low cost to her, taken out of her old-age pension. My friend pays approximately 40 pounds every now and then for her to have some little niceties like hairdresser visits, manicures, etc.
Contrast that with what my parents and grandma had to do when my grandpa was diagnosed with Alzheimers disease. My grandma had to sell her house and move in with my folks just to raise the cash to get my grandpa into a nursing home, and even after that it was very costly for his board, care and incidentals. Yes, we need a new system BADLY.
Holy crap, it’s like paranoia central for me today at FDL. MRSA’s scare me, mostly because I’ve heard the horror stories from my mom, a nurse in ER. Not good stuff.
Worse yet, my brother has picked up 2 MRSA skin infections inside the last year. Almost lost a limb to it last year to it, recently had a small infection on his forehead that required immediate hospitalization because they didn’t want to take any chances (and a good thing they didn’t). No clue where he’s gotten them.
stratocruiser @ 95
Homer: Didn’t we used to make out to this hymn?
My friend had a 105 degree fever, went to the hospital less than 3 weeks ago. He died last week.
Staph infection. They tried every antibiotic they had. Every organ was attacked.
He was 42.
Another part of the problem is that we worry too much about germs. We have antibacterial everything these days. So many more kids are growing up with severe allergies, asthma, eczema as well as food allergies.
Y’all are scaring me.
burnspbesq @ 94
Yes, there are other contributing factors at work, but the existing studies of healthcare systems and outcomes in the industrialized world all show that we receive lower quality care at higher cost than other industrialized nations. The consensus (supported even by the AMA) is that the inherent inequities and inefficiencies of the American healthcare system are substantially responsible for these outcomes.
oddmommy @ 82
Sir Esteemed Petrocelli … did you see that CTuttle ? Someone thinks I’m a gentleman … *g*
I cannot believe the other candidates started the race so early, overexposure is nevvuh a good thing. They cannot trot out their golden talking points too early, so they end up waffling, as they all seem to be doing.
I will say that he is a better politician than the others and an even better C.E.O, as his work during Katrina showed. I wish you could see the response he gets every time he comes to Toronto. He would be hailed across the world as a uniter and has a great deal of goodwill everywhere.
And a Medal of Freedom.
Saloum @ 102
Damn. I’m sorry. I know that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t think of much else to say.
Saloum, so sorry about your friend :(
DadRex certainly has a way with words, that he obviously passed down to you.
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dakine01 @ 85
Coffee came through my nose when I read about Dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.
I’m a yogi, not a Christian, but I’m pretty sure that has never been said before.
Happy Birthday, Trex. Trust me, at 39, you’re still young. Anyone younger than me is young, but nevermind that. ;)
Happy birthday, TRex! (hope TexBetsy didn’t beat me to this one.)
Happy Birthday, TRex!
Happy Birthday Trex and Patrick Rex!
The happiest of birthdays to you, (((dear TRex))), and many many more!!
Saloum, so very sorry.
Snarkassandra, do be scared, be vigilant.
TRex, happy birthday!
Happy Birthday TRex!
Don’t celebrate TOO much however. Recovery period gets longer and longer as ya get older and older…
SnarKassandra @ 104
Don’t be scared, that just immobilizes you. Be concerned and proactive to find solutions to the problems.
Happy Birthday to TRex and Patrick Rex. Live long and prosper.
Snarkassandra that was meant to say do NOT be scared. Sorry!
SnarKassandra, we really do have nothing to fear but fear itself-in this case, we’re lucky to a degree, because though the healthcare system is setup for profit and then treatment, the research & development on how to fix it has already been done by nations all over the world, so we won’t be grasping in the dark to create a system that works, when we get the chance to replace the current system.
Debbie(aussie) @ 122
Fear nothing, save that Karl Rove might fall on your head.
Yay! I’m 39!
I need to go and call all of my bitterest enemies and shout, “I’M STILL NOT DEAD, YOU EVIL BITCHEZ!!” into the phone.
I’m taking my birthdaying butt to the grocery store. See you guys in a bit.
Happy birthday Trex plus one minute.
Happy birthday dear Rexes!!!!!
Your birthday cake Sir Therapods!
or three.
And PatrickRex too!
Rayne @ 100
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.
;)
Oh, it’s after midnight…Happy B-Day, TRex!!
TRex @ 125
come back!!!!!! i got your cake!
Happy birthday TRex. You’ll find that 39 is very much like 38, although GoodMrsPuma is starting to find a few white hairs around my temples…
TRex @ 125
I know the feeling. When I was 19, I was voted least likely to see thirty. Turning 50 felt like a major vindication (That ws some time ago and the thrill has rather worn off as the effects of age make themselves felt).
Saloum @ 102
Oh no—I’m so sorry this happened.
SnarKassandra @ 127
Yummy! And Thematically appropriate.
Peterr @ 129
Oh, in the case of MRSA, I’m certain they’re out to get my brother.
Two in a year? Jeepers, he’s really pressed his luck.
EvilDrPuma @ 132
Personally, I keeping looking for the few dark ones left amid the gray.
Unless we take the health insurance companies out of the equation, we will never get the care we should be getting. I can’t wait to see sicko!
DrDick @ 137
I have to enjoy it while it lasts. I’ve been thinning out on top for several years now.
DrDick @ 137
It’s all about the hair coloring — and only my hairdresser knows ;-)
DrDick #133,
When I turned 30, I rolled up my pantslegs and walked out into the surf at a deserted beach on the East coast of FL, looked out to the horizon, and asked,”WTF am I going to do now?”
I had never expected to see 30.
Loo Hoo. @ 50
I fell asleep during it. I can’t believe it I was so excited to hear voices of TRex and CTuttle dang….. I woke up at 4:43 sitting up in bed with laptop. I went back this morning and read part of it but so disappointed I missed out. I heard TRex only.
ccmask @ 138
Too true. They are the fundamental problem and cannot be part of the solution.
Happy Birthday TRex & PatrickRex !!!
Wishing you lots of happiness, material & spiritual upliftment in the coming year.
TRex @ 125
Happy birthday!
EvilDrPuma @ 132
There are temples to EDP?
Tell GMP not to worry about having
olddistinguished elder worshippers around your places of worship — they can often be among the most devout.RonD @ 141
I am glad you got past 30!
EvilDrPuma @ 139
Well, at least that is not a problem. I still have all my hair, though it is no longer dark and lustrous.
Petrocelli @ 38
Ding !
Thanks Cassie-me too.
RonD @ 150
Yeah, survival is a good thing. I think a lot of us realized that life was worth living and turned our lives around so we would be around to enjoy it.
Happy Birthday, TRex!
This collage of funny birthday videos will make you laugh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfxriwEgMs
DrDick @ 148
I have all my hair too – there’s none on top of my head, but what I have is all mine.
Patrick 4/4 @ 153
EWWW!
Patrick 4/4 @ 153
And we’ll all thank you to keep it to yourself…
Patrick 4/4 @ 153
A much younger friend of mine once claimed that his had simply slid down (he had more hair on his back than I have on my legs).
now cassie, i’m sure he was just talking about his eyelashes, eyebrows and moustache ;)
Suzanne @ 157
Sounded like a full beard to me. ;-)
newspaperbrat @ 149
well, I am SO old, I’ve fergotten what I was arguing about in the first place……just grateful to any kind folks who agreed with me.
And happy birthday to yooooouu, TRex……Enjoy…….sure I don’t need to point out that The Big Four-Oh is JUST around the corner, bwaaahhaaaaaa…..
Sir esteemed what? Sputter, sputter, blech, gotta wipe off my keyboard and monitor!!! Why would one ever associate those words with Petrocelli? Oh, Happy Birthday, TRex & PRex!!!
CTuttle @ 160
Isn’t he a gentleman?
SnarKassandra @ 161
Since When??? *g*
OT, but worth noting:
Ahn-drew goes to the source materials and finds that under the rules as written, the CIA is permitted to do more things to subjects of interrogation than the Gestapo ever was. In fairness, there is ample evidence that the Gestapo didn’t stay within the rules, but still …
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan……html#more
And Marty Lederman connects the dots.
I had an MRSA that kept recurring.
I eventually fought it off with two hours a day with IV antibiotics, and two other antibiotics by mouth, one of which was “weak” but not used much, so the infection had little resistance to it.
I do wash my hands, and have no idea why a spider bite on my calf got so bad and nasty.
I live and work in an “affluent” area, and my doctor in Orange County, CA says that he is seeing more and more of these cases.
BTW, I found that finally going to an infectious disease specialist was the ticket, my general physician just kept giving me more and more antibiotics, and not caring that I came back every 3 months with another infection, it was ridiculous.
Are we witnessing the final manifestation of Scooter Libby’s predictions in his cryptic letter to Judith Miller:
You went to jail in the summer. It is fall now. You will have stories to cover — Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work — and life.
Notice that the threat of germs has returned on multiple fronts as of late?
Speak of the devil. The anthrax terrorist is still at large.
-GSD
SnarKassandra @ 154
It would be EWWW! if I had somebody else’s.
CTuttle @ 162
er…..trying to restore Civility to the Discourse? Bipartisanship?
Ooops….wrong senator. Sorry.
Oh yeah. Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and the rest of the Corrupt Bastards Club can thank their lucky stars they aren’t in China.
Links to Al-Jazeera.
-GSD
…waking from narcoleptic moment…what, a birthday ? and t’s ??? Feliz Feliz Cumpleanos !! and only 39 ? i have a groin pull older then that.. but tonight is not about me, Happy days to you !!
OT-Does anyone have a linky to the Scotus decision on Ledbetter v. Goodyear, I mean a synopsis, I’ve read part of Scotus’s web site, enough to realize it’s not good for the civil rights act of 64, and women’s fight to shatter the glass ceiling!!!
EvilDrPuma @ 155
If only it would stay put.
hey, oddmommy — aren’t we “neighbors”, IIRC? NoVA?
Speaking of disease, I think I will take my diseased body off to bed. My cold is feeling a little better tonight, so hopefully I will feel even better after a good night’s sleep. Take care and enjoy the snark (and be sure to wash your filthy hands!).
Evening, everybody!
A guy who used to work for me went in for routine knee surgery (cleaning out some gunk) and wound up with Staph g, which they got down after massive antibiotics and two more surgeries to flush the area. He came veryclose to losing his lower leg.
The overprescription of meds is a serious issue – i try to stay away from antibiotics as much as possible, but there was a time when it was the first choice of doctors all over, and we are reaping the rewards of that conventional wisdom…
And, happy birthday to all who are anniversarally afflicted.
good night DrD, feel better!
DrDick @ 173
Sleep well.
CTuttle @ 169
Try SCOTUSBlog. They’ll have a good roundup of articles on it.
DrDick @ 172
Sleep well; feel better Dr. D…
g’nite dr dick
burnspbesq @ 23
Epidemiology is not full of Hobson’s choices and this is not the partisan issue it is portrayed to be. Public health departments have had the greatest impact on lifespan in the last 100 years not curative medicine. Separating human waste from drinking water prevents a host of diseases seen in third world countries. I have worked in the largest county hospital in this country and another with remarkably incompetent management. Still I do not see the massive spread of disease happening like we had following World War I.
Massive infectious disease outbreaks require a perfect storm of crowded living conditions, people that are highly stressed, and a breakdown of sanitation systems. Some of the refugee groups following Katrina might fit this but not our country as a whole.
As far as curative medicine goes we need to decide what treatments will be available for which people. The latest and greatest will always be too expensive to provide for everyone.
…oh, and BTW, Mets win in 12, beat the Giants 5-4.
[short Snoopy dance]
Keep you happy man loafs to yourself, or else L. Brent Bozo and his Posse are gonna get you.
-GSD
Mutant Poodle @ 180
as long as there was no Bonds HR, I’m happy ;-)
A birthday puzzle for Patrick & Trex.
LoudounLib @ 171
we is! I’m in Vienna. Only I gotta confess embarassedly, I don’t know where Loudoun begins…..further out than Chantilly, right?
LoudounLib @ 182
Bonds didn’t play, so be happy.
GSD – I mentioned the hysterics of bobble headed news people reporting on the TB guy in Jeralyn’s thread. Granted, I would not want to sit next to the man on a trans-Atlantic flight with him having an incessant deep productive cough, but their account of his path of travel was enough to make you think he was driving a white Bronco.
This kind of hysteria is BAD for a public in need of proper information. But the chaos that can be stirred up is a necessary backdrop for much worse things with an intended result.
thanks MP, does my heart good when he doesn’t show up in the box score!
Peterr @ 177
Much Mahalo!!! “Victory for Employers” sez Savage of the L.A. Times… ARRGHHH!!!
Ah, but what instrument of state power could now dislodge the commercial interests from the machinary of the state?
Too late, too late…
The commercial machinery already owns the state and the election process.
Too late, too late…
Only a great catastrophe could wash away the corrupt machine that now controls.
In days of yore we imagined a Jubillee… but these may have been more theoretical than actual.
A century ago, we imagine a people’s revolution, but that only worked when states were weak.
Today, some imagine the peak oil driven collapse will wash away the corrupt nexus of power and commercial interests…
But do we really believe that will work?
Is there some internal contradiction, as Marx hoped, in the very workings of the commercially controlled state, that leads to its downfall?
Or perhaps, imperialism and its rush to overextention offers that hope…. Perhaps, or perhaps the new imperialists of the Bush age have figured out an imperialism that will last and last.
I don’t know. I think the hour is very very late.
EvilDrPuma @ 17
I am sorry to hear about your mother, and I feel for her. Hepatitis is no picnic.
I have become almost obsessive about washing my hands and especially trying not to touch things in public restrooms, and all because of a four pint transfusion twenty years ago: I caught hepatitis C. During the year of treatment I was not only anemic but the meds suppressed my immune system. The docs had me get vaccinated for everything they could think of before I started. I’m fine, cured now, my immune system has recovered, but that year of worrying about everything I came in contact with left its mark.
Our health insurance company is Kaiser Permanente and my doctors and the treatment program were great. The difference between Kaiser and other health insurance companies is night and day, mainly because Kaiser doesn’t have stockholders or investors they have to worry about. This is more apparent in Southern California than Northern California (we have been members in both areas), where the accountants seem to be unaware of this little fact. One of my friends was one of those accountants, used to tell me how “wasteful” the Southern part of the company was. He died of cancer last year, it went undiagnosed too long, and I blame the cost-cutting that his own unit was so proud of. The doctors up there minded the accountants, the ones down here seem to thumb their collective noses at them.
Good Night, DrDick. The best of all possible tomorrows to you.
oddmommy, yes — we’re west of Chantilly if you’re going out Rt 50. I myself am west of Rt 28 :-)
Mutant Poodle @ 181
BoSox still bestest!!! (long, swaying Hula!)
CTuttle @ 188
Waiting to see Bush’s reaction to fixing the decision by statute…
Muzz, they were playing it like Patient Zero or something.
Can’t wait for the surgical masks and the duct tape warnings to hit the airwaves.
Add into the mix that Ghadan has released a new AQ tape and the party is getting started once again.
-GSD
conniptionfit @ 51Yeah, well I’m starting to feel royally screwed. I’m sorry, but if he doesn’t get in the race real soon, he’s going to lose my vote. We’ve spent 6 years being jerked around by a jerk-off. And I’m all finished with politicians who don’t mind jerking me around just so they can get someone else’s vote.
I really don’t think he’s in the race at all and a lot of this is just the fevered brains of media dorks. Don’t blame Al because they’re being shitheads! The media folk are trying to egg him on because they want to chop him down again, but he knows better.
He’d like to run, but then the media would be all silly over him again like they were all through the 1990s. (Hell, look at The Harpy’s latest column to see what the milder form of Gore 2008 coverage would look like.)
The one good thing all the recent hype has done: It’s made people pay attention to his new book. Without the hype, who outside of us would care — and for his message to work, it HAS to expand outside of people like us.
CTuttle @ 193
I’ll go for an Amtrak series…and then we’ll just see.
LoudounLib @ 28
Is there some cultural group that is opposed to cleanliness and sanitation?
CTuttle @ 160
Ditto, and many, many happies!
GSD @ 195
They just want to get us all real scared. AGAIN.
Muzzy @ 187
Just wait until they hire a bunch of camera-equipped ultralights to track the migrating flocks of bird-flu Pheasant Zeroes as they make their way from the Urals to Central Africa to Southern Europe to…
CNN coverage of THE FLOCK OF DEATH.
Siun @ 30
He’s great. And Almost Adam by Petru Popescu, for some reason I think of those two authors in tandem.
CTuttle @ 170
Did you look on scotusblog?
opie_jeanne @ 191
It isn’t, and she retired a couple of years early because of it; but she is doing well and enjoying teaching a very, very bright grandson (my nephew).
opie jeanne, good question, wish I had an answer :-( all I know is that some folks I work with are averse to proper hand washing techniques, and it really frosts me!
Flock of Death, day 20. Capistrano is days away from an aerial bombardment of death, disease and destruction.
Cue the theme music from The Birds.
Snarkassie, fear is all they have left. Their bag of tricks is as empty as Dick Cheney’s soul.
-GSD
opie_jeanne @ 199
Stupid people?
MP@198, You’re on! Six-Pack of Samuel Adams says BoSox in 5!!! By the way, when I tuned into the Game, Bonds had just walked in the Tenth Inning!!!
LoudounLib @ 192
cool…..do you like living there?
Used to head out to West Virginia fairly often, loving mountains and such. Skyline drive too, of course, though it’s kind of a (gulp) tourist trap a lot these days.
DrDick @ 67
And my son.
TRex is still a mere child. ;-)
LoudounLib @ 183
And the Brew-has held on to beat the Braves, so the lead is now five. I’ll join that Snoopy dance, and give my Chipper Jones pinata a couple of whacks.
I’m going to call it a night. Be excellent to each other.
g’nite edp – sleep well
Joyeux anniversaire, mon cher!
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, mein liebes!
Buon compleanno, il mio caro!
!Feliz cumpleanos, mi querido!
Don’t cha just love those online translators! Too cool. Have fun, Trex!
In honor of the lowest number ever for Bush in the latest Harris Poll….Meet Mr. 28%.
-GSD
EvilDrPuma @ 212
Good night!!!!
oddmommy, it’s great out here — I’m *this* close to Leesburg and Middleburg, and close enough to Skyline and all of that. The NoVA sprawl hasn’t quite touched us yet where I am!
burnspbesq @ 204
Certainly did, Thanks to Peterr!!! Thank you, tho!!! I knew I could count on the Lake!!! :O
GSD @ 207
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Stupid people?
You made me laugh.
good night EDP
opie_jeanne @ 220
You made me laugh.
and 12 and 13 yr old boys! ICK!!!!
CTuttle @ 208
Sorry – should have said he didn’t start. Still, no dingers…
OK, iff it’s Bosox-Mets, you’re on. A six of Sam Adams seems appropriate.
I will be mildly conflicted, as I was in 88, because I spent 7 years in Rhode Island, used to go to Pawsox games, and despise the Yankees with the fervor of a Bostonian.
But the childhood allegiance still wins the day.
Mutant Poodle and CTuttle, you heard it here first: if Bonds breaks Aaron’s HR record, I will, uh, eat my hat or something. No seriously, I kinda hope Bonds gets a hammy before then ;-)
Mutant Poodle @ 198
Yay Mets.
And I’m holding out for a Freeway Series. You can thank my pet team for sweeping the Yankees last week. :-)
SnarKassandra @ 222
12 & 13 year old boys, like cats, are agents of entropy.
SnarKassandra @ 161
Yes oye um, so sod off CTuttle !!! *g*
Hey Cassie, me and CTuttle are buddies from way back … at least a few weeks … *g*
We’re gonna audition for the upcoming Dukes Of Hazzard sequel … as Bo & Luke !!! *g*
TRex, thanks for challenging the cult of the market.
With export-import subsidies, massive taxpayer funded transport networks, artifically low energy prices reulting from global military action, the DARPA-created foundation for the ‘Toobz, and massive tax loopholes purhased through corporate bribery, we don’t have a “market”
We have a K street racket: carefully wrought pro-corporate regulations purchased through subversion of popular representation.
Perhaps the few who live comfortably can’t imagine a better system.
The other 95% can, hence teh pundits are required to tell them no one outside of the comfortable elite really can solve this.
The upper 0.5% simply puchase Legislative and Executive opposition to any policies which help the “lower” 90%, all the time bemoaning the lack of better solutions.
“The market made us do it.”
Liars.
Murderers.
The same pious market acolytes who tell us we must be free of regulation (because it would taint their precious fetish) bribed the FDA, USDA, Congress, and Executive so GMOs were never labeled as such.
The strain of Monsanto’s Roundup-Ready soy we grow and eat in the US is so toxic that more than half of baby rats fed with the stuff die in just three weeks.
The strain of toxic GM Monsanto soy that killed 55% of baby mice in three weeks is widely consumed in the US.
GMO soy has taken over 85% of the US soy crop.
But we can’t identify the GMO crap, because the same corporations who leave us to sicken and die ’cause our lives are too expensive for their precious “market”
these same megacorps made sure we’d never have free market choices on GMOs.
Because we don’t want to buy the shit – and our free will costs the megacorps money.
So the GMO megacorps made sure GMO foods would not be labeled.
The GMO megacorps decided for US citizens that we would have Stealth Mutant food.
‘Cause we wouldn’t knowingly buy the crap.
They don’t give a shit about “free markets” – they’ve sold the religion to a whole generation of Friedmans, who will carry forth the myth of the market.
The same market the megacorps love so much they bribed out of existence.
My patients die from this evil religious cult.
Thanks for calling it out.
A pox – with no antibiotics or relief – for the deluded beleivers who advocate this lethal delusion.
Their lack of reality testing is literaly killing us.
PS: Apologists for Monsanto and GMOs note.
Yep the 55% death rate from Monsanto’s Round-Up Ready Soy was in a small study released at a scientific meeting.
You’ll bitch and moan and complain that it wasn’t in a peer-reviewed journal.
You need to protect your “market” – because free information helps consumers make choices.
So you’ll obscure this ominous initial finding – your “market” depends upon deceiving us.
Just as with Monsanto’s PCB’s (Monsanto said they were harmless for years. Lies about deadly toxins.)
Just as with Monsanto’s Agent Orange (Monsanto said nope, no dioxin in our product. Lies about deadly results).
Just as with Monsanto’s rGBH (Monsanto said nope, no problem with killing off dairy herds and pus in your milk. Lies about deadly outcomes and repulsive food contamination)
No problem with the Monsanto soy that kills. It was just one small study.
You can trust us. We have “sound science” – our critics never do.
So – after PCB’s…
After Agent Orange…
After rBGH and pus in your milk…
We can believe the Monsanto corporation and their apologists.
This time.
Sure.
Nothing to see here, folks. The market will protect us.
From anything that hurts sales.
Like the Monsanto mutant soy – or knowing about it.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
For the megacorps and their cult of the market..
For the rest of us, knowledge protects us from megacorps’ lethal practices and products.
And from the mutant soy that Monsanto pushed into the US soy crop…
that kills 55% of baby rats in three weeks.
But ignore that preliminary result.
Trust the market.
Hey – it works for the upper 0.5%, right?
In case people were wondering, one place bacteria like to hang out is in the nasal sinuses where soap and washing rarely meet. It’s possible to introduce drug resistant staph aureus by picking one’s nose with unclean hands for instance.
Just fyi, you can eradicate it using bacitracin on q-tips swabbed up in there for several days in a row:
“Mupirocin calcium ointment has FDA-approved labeling for the eradication of nasal MRSA colonization in adult patients and health care workers as part of comprehensive infection-control programs to reduce the risk of infection during institutional outbreaks. The recommended dosage is 0.5 g inserted into each nostril twice daily for five days.”
There’s probably more recent articles, but this was a quick and dirty abstract I found:
up your nose
The superbug doesn’t have the same resistance to this topical antibiotic oitment. Problem is, once it’s pneumonia, sepsis, or something else beneathe the skin, bacitracin can’t be used (ingested). Still, it’s good that we have a simple way of ridding ourselves from being carriers before it spreads.
Good nite EDP!
LoudounLib @ 225
Bonds… what a jerk, and I say that after living near SF and constantly reading about his vile behavior off the field, especially his driving.
LoudounLib @ 217
wow, I am delighted to hear that. mr. oddmommy used to have a motorcycle (even rode on it meself b4 we had kids) and when he went on rides he’d always complain about how long it took to get out of “the vomit,” as he put it. We shall have to investigate this pristine territory that still exists.
opie_jeanne @ 226
O’ course, you know the Blue Jays will take it all the way. Boston already got their once- a- century title … *g*
opie_jeanne @ 225
Hey opie jeanne – you an Angeleno?
I was mucho thrilled that the Angels took out the Yanks. I’ll see the Mets this year in July – my dad is coming down from Canada(!) to see them take on the Dodgers at Chavez Ravine.
If the Dodgers were still in Brooklyn, maybe I’d root for them. But as they absconded, I am, as a New Yawker, holding onto the grudge.
Hello all. TRex, Happy Birthday, and wishing you a stunningly good next year. I heard you on Goldy’s show last night and enjoyed your comments except for your reference to Al Gore’s voice, which reminded me of Tucker Carlson (I think it was) asking if his guest would want to listen to Hillary Clinton’s voice for the next eight years. None of the Democratic candidates’ tones match your velvet articulation (and I could truly listen to you ad infinitem), but I would still rather hear any Democrat talking rationally than the current President or any of the Republican contenders spouting nonsense.
Things you can do besides washing your hands:
– Eat lots of garlic. It’s good for your immune system, it kills germs, and it helps counteract the effects of lead poisoning. When translating ancient Roman recipes into modern languages, the translators were struck by the massive amounts of garlic in them — so much that at first they thought they’d make errors in the translating. But Rome used lead pipes in their plumbing system — the very word “plumbing” comes from the Roman word for “lead” — and thus was the mystery solved. (If you’re anemic be careful as garlic interferes with iron absorption; step up your consumption of iron-bearing foods — yes, Virginia, this is where the vampire legends and garlic got their start — or take iron pills.)
– If you feel a sore throat coming on, gargle with salt water. Salt kills cold germs dead. (It’s one reason why chicken soup works wonders for you when you’re sick.) If you’ve progressed to a full-blown cold/flu, do nasal lavage instead: Get an ear syringe, fill it full of warm salt water, and squirt it into each nostril. Stings like the dickens, but you will stop the cold in its tracks, and without the charming side effects common to many OTC cold drugs.
– Nuke your hamburgers before frying/grilling them. The deal with hamburgers is that what was once outside is inside and vice versa, so surface bacteria get distributed throughout the meat when it’s ground. Steaks and other solid cuts can be eaten rare, but don’t even think about doing that with a hamburger, unless you raised the cow, killed it, and ground its meat yourself.
Muzzy @ 230
Gee, thanks I think. One more way for me to be neurotic about cleanliness.
opie_jeanne @ 232
He appears to be as contentious as HRC. *g*
Mutant Poodle @ 224
Deal! I forgave Pedro for going to the Mets, however, the Rocket and Captain Caveman(w/shorn locks) are Traitors in my eyes!!!
opie_jeanne @ 226
Not this year. Dodgers don’t have enough pitching to beat the Mets in a short series.
I would love a Mets – Angels World Series. I don’t even have to get on the freeway to get to Angels Stadium.
Petrocelli @ 234
The Blue Jays? *splutter*
I want some of what you’re smokin’ Heheheheh.
Patrick and Trex Happy Happy Birthday!
LoudounLib @ 224
Eh, I think it’s a foregone conclusion – but it’s going to be bittersweet for him – he’ll break the record of a man whose shoes he’s not fit to polish, and acquire a record that most people believe is irredeemably tainted.
Karma’s a bitch.
Petrocelli @ 239
Ok, who is HRC? I am an idiot.
oddmommy, definitely take a cruise with mr oddmommy sometime out on Rt 50 past Middleburg and Upperville, and on some of the back roads there — also check out Sky Meadows State Park in Clarke and Fauquier counties — beautiful country!
LoudounLib @ 225
I don’t understand the absolute hatred of Bonds. Why him when this has been going on for so many years? The others seem to get a “tut tut” but Bonds is hated. By the way, I’m a Giants fan.
HRC is Hillary R. Clinton
burnspbesq @ 241
Not to mention that no one in the Dodgers’ outfield has an arm. Geez. And when is Nomar going to start hitting again? He was terrific at the end of last season.
LoudounLib @ 225
There will most certainly be an Asterisk next to Bond’s record when all is over and done with!!!
CTuttle @ 239
As I remember, Boston’s calculus was that they didn’t want to sign him long-term. That would be a nice little sub-plot, wouldn’t it?
burns, I dunno…Brad Penny rang up the Nats pretty good tonight!
Good night y’all.
Midnight in Texas.
Suzanne @ 248
…I think Bonds might have her beat in that department (and here I was thinking that HRC were initials of a baseball player).
Yeah, well I’m starting to feel royally screwed. I’m sorry, but if he doesn’t get in the race real soon, he’s going to lose my vote. We’ve spent 6 years being jerked around by a jerk-off. And I’m all finished with politicians who don’t mind jerking me around just so they can get someone else’s vote.
I may be wrong on this but:
1) Gore takes/has taken/will take money from AIPAC
2) Gore takes/has taken/will take money from the MIC
3) Gore takes/has taken/will take money from Big Biz
4 Gore is a shill for and Gore takes/has taken/will take money from the Nuclear Industry.
5) Gore is PRO international interventionist oriented (militarily)
6) Gore is NOT antiwar about much of ANYTHING (MIC money)
7) Gore is just like all the rest.
Why would you WANT Gore to run? On Green Issues only? He’s NOT about developing alternative energy, he’s about NUKE ENERGY!
Articles have established all of the above, I don’t have links, do yer homework but, Gore is just like all the rest.
I don’t GET the present infatuation with him, other than, the rest of them except Kuch look so bad we’re ALL jaded to hell.
N BTW, Petrocelli, there’s no timing in S*X, sometimes yer early, sometimes yer late, sometimes yer both lucky at the same time . . . that’s not timing. S*X is about making sure BOTH of you (or all of them depending on preferences but tha’s not where I’m headed) GET THERE, at SOME point. As often as possible! (grin)
Mostly, you do it till it hurts too much to do it anymore. Even though you WANT to. I ’spose good timing would be yer both too sore to do it anymore.
Hope I didn’t offend . . . but Petro left THAT barndoor open wide enuff to drive a tractor trailer rig thru it sideways. *G*
Oh, folks, don’t forget, get yer registration form at the Post Office, fill it out, and make sure you register DECLINE TO STATE. THAT will mess up all the PAC candidates and the PAC money. N THAT’S a major phreakin start you can’t be hauled off to jail for (yet).
BTW, I am back from 5 days of festin 6 miles outside of Yosemite, in Camp Mather, CA, 4,1235 ft. elev. With 5,000 of my best pickin pals.
Did I mention, we had fun and I picked my fingers off? *G*
Uh, I WAS expecting to see some impeachments when I got back, who fell down on THAT, ya Pups!?!?!?!? LOL
g’nite, cassie. sleep well
Good nite, SnK…and I as well. Good nite all.
Twain @ 247
My dislike of him is as much for his behavior off the field as the drug issue, and I don’t think the other guys should get a pass on the drug thing, either.
CTuttle @ 249
…although, I will say that the record for most hits in a career was passed from one flaming a**hole (Cobb) to another (Rose)…but if that trait was performance-enhancing Bush would be the best Preznit evah!
g’night Cassie and RonD
DeLay had an affair?
That’s news to me. Did any of you know this?
SnarKassandra @ 252
Night Cassie…
opie_jeanne @ 256
When have you ever seen a baseball player who wasn’t a jerk? They all act like little princes.
TheOtherWA @ 259
Who are these women? Ladies of the lake – can you ’splain?
open tag closed.
Petrocelli @ 234
You wish!!! The Jays are good, but Boston is the Bestest and 12 games ahead(and counting…)!!! :P
opie_jeanne @ 242
Sorry, that was intended to make CTuttle spew his drink. *g*
Mutant Poodle @ 251
Captain Caveman, who sat down with a sore… something for two games after he dropped four easy flies in the first game against the Angels. I used to like him when he played for Boston, the year they won the World Series. After that, not so much.
Muzzy @ 230
Muzzy, bless you for this.
I so wish I had it when I was wandering around teaching hospitals
Thank you.
Petrocelli @ 234
The baseball gods will never again permit a team that plays in a soul-less eyesore like the Rogers Center … err … Centre to win it all.
opie_jeanne @ 249
Nomar will start hitting again when the twins start sleeping through the night. It’ll serve those two right if their kids all end up going to Duke.
Twain @ 261
Well, David Wright seems like a good guy (or at least like someone with a good publicist). And Tony Gwynn was awesome…
Mutant Poodle @ 251
Yeah, Theo thought Pedro was in his twilight and didn’t want to spend the bux!!!
Mutant Poodle @ 244
To be fair, if they’re going to uphold McGuire’s record, Sosa and Palmeiro’s stats, they should give Barry his dues. He is not the only athlete to take steroids and should not have to pay for everyone else’s sins.
MP, don’t forget Ryan Zimmerman, an up and coming Nat…
CTuttle @ 270
OK, this is a low blow, but remember Carlton Fisk?
SnarKassandra @ 252
Sleep well – always a treat to see ya!
TheOtherWA @ 260
The thought that there are two women in the world willing to sleep with Tom DeLay without being paid for it is going to make me hurl.
opie_jeanne – no need to stick bacitracin up your nose. It’s a good thing to know about if you work in a hospital where you have contact with patients who end up having MRSA. I have no idea how often such a thing with the q-tips is done -not often I’m guessing.
Also, apologies to any indulgent nose pickers out there who might be unnecessarily spooked. Just realize what you have on your fingers might just decide to live inside your nose for awhile.
TRex, there you go, smashing pumpkins again
Petrocelli @271
Thanks for saying what I meant about Bonds record – and much better than I did. I do think he is paying for everyone else and he truly is difficult to like but he can really hit.
shorter Muzzy — wash your hands! ;-)
Happy Birthday TRex and Patrick!
The universe did a great thing when it let you both join your mother here.
Thanks universe!
Happy Birthday, friends.
Oh, and sportsfans – if we the Mets stay good for a few years, we’d get World Series games here…
Petro, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you, but, I am! Those records should be recognized along with Bonds, hence, the asterisk! Similarly, Pete Rose should be inducted into Cooperstown!!! MP, that was a low blow…
Mutant Poodle @ 271
Joe Carter & Dave Winfield.
Mutant Poodle,
No. That was today’s edition of simple answers to simple questions.
I can’t fathom why any woman would voluntarily be with ten feet of either of them.
Mutant Poodle @ 283
is that anywhere near where Shea is?
Petrocelli @ 284
Pete O’Brien
TheOtherWA @ 260
Allow me to quote Cassie: Ewwww!
CTuttle @ 282
Yeah – I was in New England when that disaster happened. People were pissed off for what, decades?
LoudounLib @ 285
being built in the parking lot behind centerfield, I think…
Is an a-fare what you call it when one has to pay for it?
Mutant Poodle @ 251
I remember thinking, when Pedro left Boston, that he took with him, their chances of ever winning another title.
Nats stadium under construction
…maybe one day we’ll see a Nats World Series from here…
CTuttle @ 284
That just means we’re similarly inebriated … *g*
Mutant Poodle @ 290
Similarly, the dribbler thru Buckner’s legs…
burnspbesq @ 241
Me too. I live in Anaheim and I like watching the Mets.
Petrocelli @ 295
I’ll drink to that!!! ;)
Good evening dear friends. Hope all are well.
LoudounLib @ 292
With apologies to the old Washington Senators…First in War, first in peace, last in the National League (East)
Twain @ 280
Bonds reminds me of Mario Lemieux ( Hey CTuttle, see how I managed to move the topic back to hockey? *g* ) he was a great player, but never enjoyed the rapport with the media like Gretzky. Outside of Pittsburgh, he was liked but never loved … not even in Quebec.
hey there Betsy
lol MP, I’m afraid you are correct!
TexBetsy @ 297
Evening, Betsy. Welcome to late night baseball at the lake.
Saw the post and went to wash my hands before typing a reply. :)
TRex around?
Patrick Rex?
I have something for you.
TexBetsy @ 299
Howdy, Ma’am!!! Cassie retired for the evening, your turn!!! :)
Twain @ 263
Most of the time.
What the heck players are you talking about?
I see the ones in Anaheim all the time, and most of them are not jerks, nor are most of the ones from other teams I’ve seen up close.
Happy Birthday, TRex, and thanks for the article. The state of our health care system is far more frightening to me than terrorism, and yet no one seems to want to have a “War On Lack of Health Care”. Maybe that’s too long for a bumper sticker?
Anyhow, I just hope there isn’t another pandemic before we get it straightened out, because there’s no way this health care system is going to be able to handle it.
TB, TRex is still grocery shopping (I believe) or perhaps getting Late Late Nite ready. Haven’t seen PaTRex this evening.
Petrocelli @ 301
Before Gretzky moved to L.A., or after??? Speaking of traitors…. :(
Cujo359 @ 308
How about “Got Health Care?”
hockey, feh ;-)
(apologies to Petro, our friend from the great white north!)
opie_jeanne @ 305
You have season tix?
CTuttle @ 298
Hey CTuttle, is Samuel Adams good beer? My cousins in Bass-tan say Molson’s is better than Adams, and you know how I feel about Molson’s …
Good night, sweet firepups. Tomorrow (and work) start too early. *mwah*
LoudounLib @ 310
I never really got hockey, even though I went to HS in Minnesota. But I will say that hockey players are the craziest mofos I’ve ever encountered.
Mutant Poodle @ 304
I love this place … and all of you … we get to talk about anything and everything …
Petrocelli @ 285
John Lackey, Adam Kennedy, Vlad Guerrero, Erstad, Eckstein, Chone Figgins… these guys are personally involved in local charities and really nice when the kids ask for autographs at games. There were a couple on the Oakland As when we lived up there who seemed to be truly decent. I loved LaRussa, their manager at the time. He got a bunch of his players to perform with the Oakland Ballet during Nutcracker season, for charity. My girls met a couple of them backstage… and right now I’m drawing a blank.
g’night, TheOtherWA
Cujo359 @ 308
TexBetsy @ 311
Works for me, but then I’ve seen enough wars lately.
RE: Bird flu — That’s not likely to become a big deal, according to the health pros I know, a) because the virus hasn’t mutated sufficiently to easily attack humans, and b) for the simple reason that we wash our chickens before and after we kill them. (We also don’t let the things live with us and roll around in their own filth.) That’s pretty much the best defense against the illness.
Bottom line: We’re OK so long as the virus doesn’t mutate into something we can catch readily. This might happen next week, or a hundred years from now, or (equally likely) never. But don’t let that stop you from washing your hands. (Remember, the 1918 flu pandemic occurred back when even people in developed nations confined themselves to weekly baths at most and underpants for women didn’t exist because woman — using their long petticoats as a shield — often urinated in the street and panties would have just got in the way. And even that was a vast improvement over Europe during the time of the Black Death. Their notions of “good sanitation” would horrify most of us today.)
TheOtherWA @ 315
Sleep well.
TheOtherWA @ 313
‘nite OtherWa
CTuttle @ 266
Boston is amazing right now.
The only thing I like about watching the Yankees is Jeter. I love to watch him play.
g’nite TOW.
TheOtherWA @ 314
Sweet dreams TOW!
my turn — good night all!
LoudounLib @ 327
Night LL
Twain @ 263
Maybe I should have been more specific about Bonds regarding his jerky behavior: most players don’t run people off the road, or when waved to don’t flip fans the finger.
CTuttle @ 310
Gretzky was sold to the Kings. The Kings’ owner made him listen in on the conversation he was having with the Oilers’ owner and Wayne was shocked at what was said by the Oilers’ owner.
Wayne was responsible for the game’s popularity in the U.S., so some good came of it … although he never won another Stanley Cup.
sleep well, LL
Petrocelli @ 314
It depends, they have 20 or so brews, I prefer the darker ones, a hangover from my years in Germany! Now, they have some awesome brews… :O
opie_jeanne @ 322
I feel that way about Reyes. Tonight he forced 2 balks in the 12th, the second scoring him with the tying run.
But I love speed in almost any sport.
When the Yanks played the Mets, I thought they looked old and slow comparatively, and as much as I think Jeter’s a great guy, he needs a little help.
Cal Ripken Jr was a decent man as well as a ballplayer.
Anyone else?
LoudounLib @ 325
Sleep well LL.
Jane Hamsher @ 20
For me, when these female forces of nature come together, all is right with the world.
CTuttle @ 330
Well, we have about 5 months to find the right brand. Sam Adams has the geographical correctness, but if we drop that, there are many possibilities.
Maybe we need an FDL Beer tasting room!
oooh, last comment from here — totally agree, Betsy, Cal Jr is the total package. Great ballplayer, great man.
LoudounLib @ 312
That’s alright … Hockey is similar to Baseball … except with excitement and fun. *g*
opie_jeanne @ 318
Whatever you do Opie, don’t mention the Mighty Ducks holding Lord Stanley’s Cup to Petro!!!
it may not be germane that George Staph-on-top-of-this has an infectious smile.
Mutant Poodle @ 316
They don’t take Steroids, they just drink more Beer. *g*
and now I’m out…sweet progressive dreams to all!
TexBetsy @ 334
Truly a class act, Ma’am!!!
Mutant Poodle @ 313
Not this year, but we go a lot. We live two miles from the stadium. Season tickets is too many for even this rabid fan.
We had season tickets to the Angels starting 28 years ago. (almost called them the Angles) It’s late, I need some sleep. Mr opie-jeanne needs me to drive him to his carpool tomorrow at too-damned-early in the morning. First day back after cancer surgery. He’s fine, but still a bit sore.
Happy Birthday, Trex!
punaise @ 339
A placque on both your houses!
Mutant Poodle @ 337
I tell Ya!!! Hilo has an excellent Micro-Brewery!!!
CTuttle @ 340
How about them Ducks? Hehheh.
(I hate hockey.)
CTuttle @ 332
German Beer is nice, my fav is Belgian – Leffe
TexBetsy @ 334
Oh my goodness yes. Buck O’Neill, bless him.
And now off to bed for me too. Sweet dreams, y’all.
opie_jeanne @ 343
Goodnight, and best to Mr. O-J. Sleep well.
Swordswoman @ 351
sleep well!
Mutant Poodle @ 337
CTuttle and I have already begun the arduous task. (Take a bow, CT)
LoudounLib @ 338
I agree 100%.
There are others, but it’s too late and I’m just too dopey to remember the stuff I should. I’m suffering from CRS due to being 57.
Petrocelli @ 354
Good night all. :-)
Good night opie_j
CTuttle @ 340
I’m one of the few in Toronto supporting the Ottawa Senators. *g*
Can’t believe I’m pumpkinizing this early, yet I am. Goodnight all.
Birthday boy upstairs
Mutant Poodle @ 347
“everything’s better with bubonic on it”
Night Cujo
Petrocelli @ 352
Red Stripe? Negro Modello?
I want to make sure your research is exhaustive…
and in the news ……
Sudan: U.S. sanctions over Darfur unfair
KHARTOUM, Sudan – The Sudanese government condemned a new set of U.S. economic sanctions aimed at pressuring it to halt the bloodshed in Darfur, describing them Tuesday as “unfair and untimely” and calling on the rest of the world to ignore them.
Da birthday theropod just opened latelatenite upstairs!
ON topic even:
Seton: 13 may have whooping cough
Another 159 people flock to ER for examination, worried they may have been exposed.
G’day and Happy Birthday, T-Rex. Actually, I’m a were-wombat: when it’s not full moon, I am a perfectly ordinary Infectious Disease Physician in Sydney. I have spent most of my working life cohabiting with MRSA in the Australian hospital system (btw, Penicillin resistant Staph. aureus was first described in Papua New Guinea, and the aggressive community-acquired MRSA now sweeping the US prison system seems to have initially emerged in Aboriginal populations in Western Australia). I am mildly amused at the sturm und drang that surrounds each new “superbug” from MRSA to VRE, weaponised anthrax and avian influenza . Yes they are problems that won’t go away, but they won’t really change our lives that much either: we can actually treat most of the agents actually cause disease, and it is recognised by whichever system takes responsibility (and there’s the rub: it strikes me that there are some parts of the US system for whom no one takes responsibility). As a wise microbiologist of my acquaintence says: more people make their living from infections than die from it. The pandemics have not happened yet, and I’m reasonably sure that they won’t…and we may not recognise them until well after it’s too late. Don’t worry, be happy…and ask who ever is going to touch you if they have washed their hands first.
Petrocelli @ 354
We might have a slight headstart on some… and all those 12 Oz curls is mighty tiring work… *g*
Mutant Poodle @ 363
We’ve begun, across the pond, I believe. We will give it our best
Tequilashot.…am retiring for the evening. More baseball fun later, everybody…
CTuttle @ 368
Yeah, my Biceps looks like Popeye’s !!! *g*
wombat,
GOod to see you here. Can you tell me if you find tea tree oil useful for treating MRSA?
Apparently, stores around Boston that serve immigrant communities sell black-market pharmaceuticals that include antibiotics. WBUR went to a bunch of shops and found all kind of foreign-market meds for sale.
A Dominican woman interviewed by WBUR said she would take an antibiotic after her period as a ‘cleansing’. Not a full course, or anything, and not to actually fight any medical condition.
That scared the crap out of me.
If this is common in other cities in the US, it should be no surprise if drug-resistant strains of various bugs start cropping up among those same communities.
burnspbesq @ 55
This confuses funding of biomedical research with funding of healthcare delivery.
In the whole nation, only 125 schools train MDs. Only 23 schools grant DOs.
The vast majority of Americans receive their care outside of biomedical research.
Of all the healthcare payment systems in the US, the Medicare system has the lowest overhead.
Medicare’s overhead is a fraction of Big Insurance’s overhead.
Medicare assesses new treatments and decides whether or not they are effective enough to pay for. Medicare effectively decides what procedures – what treatments – are authorized.
The private payers fall into line behind Medicare on treatments, diagnoses….
Oh yeah: ’cause government is so corrupt that business can do it better.
That was a lie under Reagan. It is a lie today.
Sorry – I’m disrespecting the cult of the market.
The market cult is a religion, and the “corrupt pols/corrupt govt” slogan is the same tired PR lie that’s been used to rob the public sector in the GOP’s thirty year orgy of
free marketlooting the Treasury.Medicare handles claims for pennies on teh dollar. Big Insurance grabs 25 to 40 cents of every premium dollar.
The Bushies and Goopers raided Medicare public assets to create two
leeches“free market” programs that – of course – hire private sector firms to provide less effective care for far higher prices.Of course, overhead on these two frauds is far higher than in the pre-Bushie Medicare programs free of corporate vacuums.
Because private insurance corporations don’t cure anyone – they just divert teh cash flow from productive care. Up to 35-40% of premium dollars in some plans go to profit, “administration” (hiring the CEO’s pals), overhead, and non-clinical activities.
The shy leech on the Medicare public body is Medicare-subsidized HMO’s run by the HMO industry. Yep – you haven’t heard much about it, but US tax dollars directly subsidize for-profit Medicare HMO’s, ensuring profits well above market rates.
You see, for Big Insurance, “the market” isn’t good enough.
And the HMO’s get all the profits. Hey – we’ve got plenty of money in Medicare, right? Why not give some away – to the HMOs?
Medicare Part D gives Pig Pharma and Big Insurance the keys to the Medicare treasure trove – a massive corporate subsidy.
Pig Pharma’s
bribedhired Congressional porcines wrote the Medicare D legislation to FORBID Medicare from seeking drug price breaks based on large volume purchases. Under Medicare Part D, we taxpayer pay Pig Pharma high costs for the same meds the VA buys at lower cost.The VA gets the volume based discounts, so their drug dollar – our drug dollar – stretches further. With Medicare D, our tax dollars stretch Pig Pharm’s profits – cause that’s what Pig Pharma had written into the Part D law.
Cause it’s all about free markets, right?
The VA has been selecting which drugs VA docs use for decades. The result – a formulary – controls MD’s drug selection. At the VA, the government has done that for decades – and paid for the drugs. And mailed them to patients.
That’s all a drug benefit plan is.
The Feds already know how to do what the Part D private pharmacy corps do – cheaper, better, and faster.
Sorry to bum out the priests of the market.
By the way – how are those temples the IMF and World Bank looking these days?
The market’s never wrong – right?
Although everyone’s upstairs having a birthday party, for the lugubrious remnants of this crowd, I thought I’d mention that last year, Honolulu had 40 days and 40 nights of rain, after which an ancient sewer main overflowed (overflewed? overflu?), contaminating the Ala Wai canal and boat harbor but good, as well as Waikiki Beach just in time for a visit from my sister and her hubby. So someone had been drinking at a bar across the street from his one-bedroom condominium at the Tradewinds and fell into the boat harbor. He cut himself while climbing out and had open wounds on his feet and legs. Naturally, these got infected with– you guessed it– good old necrotizing fasciitis, which killed him a week later.
I guess Paradise isn’t safe, either.
Hey, its more cheerful upstairs.
Bob in HI
The Democrats have to stop this
Well, crud. I missed the party. Definitely EPU’d, but should anyone backtrack – this thread is the gist of my entire blog with one notable exception. For all of the public ignorance about public health and disease prevention, there is even greater ignorance of the critical role that professional nursing plays in every aspect of healthcare. There is a growing shortage of nurses. There is also sound research which demonstrates that nursing care delivered by baccalaureate educated nurses is responsible for decreased morbidity and mortality rates of patients.
Nurses are the most oppressed professionals – working as employees for employers who routinely interfere with their professional practice and judgment,working with a generally uninformed and unsupportive public, and exposed to very high rates of work-related illness, injury and deaths.
If you are so inclined, please visit and read up. I think you’ll be surprised at how different reality is from what you perceive.
The commenters and authors are on fire tonight. I appreciate the informed points of view, and I now have fodder for posts and for my own inquiry. Thanks to all, and to TRex for asking the questions and hosting the party.
i is cruising for our vast left wing EPU here, but i had something i wanted to share from the medico/biochem world of modern imagining:
http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/_a…..54365.html
EvilDrPuma @ 21
Happy Birthday? Damn, you really are evil.
G’day Margot,
Tea tree oil is a good antiseptic (against fungi as well as most bacteria) but too toxic to use on wounds or systemically. It may work to decrease the colonisation that underlies recurrent superficial Staph infection (ie furunculosis, which was the problem in the massive outbreak of community acquired MRSA in the californian prison system a couple of years ago) but not for invasive infection (wounds, cellulitis, osteomyelitis, septic arthritis, bacteraemia, UTIs, pneumonia, endocarditis and meningitis). One important point is that Staph (of all species) is a normal commensal of human skin, and is specifically adapted to incorporate antimicrobial resistance mechanisms from other organisms. We cannot “win” by eliminating Staph., we can only learn to live with it (bit of a philosophical point there: GOP “philosophy” is doomed on a micro scale too!). One other point – we have a very anthropocentric view of microorganisms: in terms of biomass, “they”, not we, are the dominant life form on this planet, and most of our “antibiotics” are actually derived from microbial defence systems, adapted (temporarily) for our benefit. Bugs will, of course, outevolve us. Just think of resistance as evolution in action.
stratocruiser @ 95
And where was the spew alert on that one?
As lurker it’s my duty to read all the way to the bottom of the posts and I usually do. Today I have to respond to Conniptionfit@51.
This may have never happened but imagine a room, back in late November with Nancy and Al Gore and Harry Reid discussing stratagy.
Al Says: look Nancy you’re a lady, any effort to impeach is gonna look like you just want the office for yourself. So Harry say’s: Look Al I will build the case carefully, like a Mormon Bishop form Las Vegas would. If I can’t manage to impeach by 2008 then you got to run.
Ok so Al is being 100% truthful when he says he doesn’t want the job. 100% truthful when he implies if the herd can’t bring Climate change to the forefront he might run.
And 100% truthful when he say’s he hasn’t ruled it out.
He WILL run if he has to.
Watch!
Off to work at 7. I help cook for over 5000 today, with a crew of 17.
Help ikes1
Nice observation, thanks.
I’m on one this morning. I’m writing a letter to Cindy to thank her on my son’s behalf(16). And ordering “NO Spitting” signs in three languages for all the bus stops and loading docks on campus. If I can figure out how I will post my version of the story of the “Second Terrorist”. later.
I got to this thread late, but just wanted to note that the Scandanavian countries have all but wiped out MRSA infections. In fact, when a U.S. resdient traveling in Scandanavia is hospitalized, they put him or her in isolation until they can assure they are MRSA-negative (by testing or treatment).
Stolen Dormouse @ 386
Stolen Dormouse, I love your handle.
Thank you for this information.
You have provided the most devastatingly succinct indictment of America’s health
careeconomics I have ever seen.Great work.
Your description is incredibly important – if you would be so kind as to provide a link, I’d be grateful.
Your timing is exquisite.
MSM are obsessed with one poor soul with drug resistant disease confined when he came to America.
Where our drug resistant Staph is so prevalent that we – by your report – are treated as though MRSA infected.
We’re not assumed to be risk-free.
We’re assumed to be a risk until treated or tested negative.
We have to show we’re safe.
Just as teh precautionary principle requires.
And Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA.
Unless we can prove otherwise.
Looks like Scandanavia has all but wiped out MRSA using precautionary principle based decisions.
PS – wombat, I really love your commments!