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		<title>By: aarrgghh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-724850</link>
		<dc:creator>aarrgghh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-723654&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;geek @ 77&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;IANAL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I think property is usually measured in crow fly distance (see also territorial waters).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, crow distance is known and constant, and travel distance may change (unpredictably) by construction and rerouting of roads and routes, not to mention the way to choose the path (where can you travel? what points do you measure, how tight are your corners, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i agree — any change in travel conditions could affect the plaintiff’s circumstances with respect to the policy, so it should not be decided based on physical travel. unless there are further complicating issues, this case really seems like a no-brainer to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-723654"><em>geek @ 77</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>IANAL</p>
<p>But I think property is usually measured in crow fly distance (see also territorial waters).</p>
<p>Also, crow distance is known and constant, and travel distance may change (unpredictably) by construction and rerouting of roads and routes, not to mention the way to choose the path (where can you travel? what points do you measure, how tight are your corners, etc.)</p>
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<p>i agree — any change in travel conditions could affect the plaintiff’s circumstances with respect to the policy, so it should not be decided based on physical travel. unless there are further complicating issues, this case really seems like a no-brainer to me.</p>
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		<title>By: doug r</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-724765</link>
		<dc:creator>doug r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 07:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I say she should get some friends to chip in and rent a chopper to go to work once.&lt;br /&gt;
Just because she has to go a longer route most of the time, doesn’t mean that’s the way it should be measured…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say she should get some friends to chip in and rent a chopper to go to work once.<br />
Just because she has to go a longer route most of the time, doesn’t mean that’s the way it should be measured…</p>
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		<title>By: localroger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-724332</link>
		<dc:creator>localroger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 02:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please tell me that wasn’t meant for kids to watch.  Yeah it’s funny for us, but it’s meaningless unless you know what SVU is about.  It’s not Special LETTERs unit, people it’s special VICTIMS unit.  As in sex crimes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me that wasn’t meant for kids to watch.  Yeah it’s funny for us, but it’s meaningless unless you know what SVU is about.  It’s not Special LETTERs unit, people it’s special VICTIMS unit.  As in sex crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-724018</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this 75-mile-rule based on a regular car driving on paved roads, winding it’s way between these two locations…or an all-terrain vehicle making a beeline, crossing fields and streams and front lawns, while only occassionally using pavement?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What? This wasn’t differentiated in the law being considered?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, then, it seems like the Supreme Court ruling should be a no-brainer, or at least a no-brainer for Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas, since they are bound to side with the corporatists (and corporate profits) over the woman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, anyone with brains on the Supreme Court would rule that the 75-mile-rule is as the crow flies…or as an all-terrain vehicle drives…or as a compass measures out 75 miles on a map.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this 75-mile-rule based on a regular car driving on paved roads, winding it’s way between these two locations…or an all-terrain vehicle making a beeline, crossing fields and streams and front lawns, while only occassionally using pavement?</p>
<p>What? This wasn’t differentiated in the law being considered?</p>
<p>Well, then, it seems like the Supreme Court ruling should be a no-brainer, or at least a no-brainer for Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas, since they are bound to side with the corporatists (and corporate profits) over the woman.</p>
<p>On the other hand, anyone with brains on the Supreme Court would rule that the 75-mile-rule is as the crow flies…or as an all-terrain vehicle drives…or as a compass measures out 75 miles on a map.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-723795</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops! &amp; Oh My!  What HAVE I wrought?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in re: my !&lt;b&gt;86&lt;/b&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let it be known to all garden sheds of the world, you needn’t worry.  Ours is just fine.  I meant “levelled” as in - ahem - all its lil’ corners now point suitable directions so that we can actually close &amp; latch its door.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gotta blame boosh-&lt;b&gt;43&lt;/b&gt;! for that durn thang too.  Can’t be careless wit da language no more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some legacy, whew.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;nit’s a twit to thee &amp; me!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! &amp; Oh My!  What HAVE I wrought?</p>
<p>in re: my !<b>86</b>-</p>
<p>Let it be known to all garden sheds of the world, you needn’t worry.  Ours is just fine.  I meant “levelled” as in &#8211; ahem &#8211; all its lil’ corners now point suitable directions so that we can actually close &amp; latch its door.</p>
<p>Gotta blame boosh-<b>43</b>! for that durn thang too.  Can’t be careless wit da language no more.</p>
<p>Some legacy, whew.</p>
<p>nit’s a twit to thee &amp; me!</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-723762</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course they aren’t good at goverance because they don’t believe in government.  In a sense they are right wing anarchists because they see the government’s role in protecting the right of individuals and the community at large as a barrier to the interests of corportations and the priviledged.  Remember Reagan’s comment about the 10 most feared words “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.”  The irony is that to insure that their view of a cannibalistic capitalism becomes the law of the land they have to be elected to public office.  Government is not for the common good but for the good of a select few.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they aren’t good at goverance because they don’t believe in government.  In a sense they are right wing anarchists because they see the government’s role in protecting the right of individuals and the community at large as a barrier to the interests of corportations and the priviledged.  Remember Reagan’s comment about the 10 most feared words “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.”  The irony is that to insure that their view of a cannibalistic capitalism becomes the law of the land they have to be elected to public office.  Government is not for the common good but for the good of a select few.</p>
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		<title>By: spurious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-723759</link>
		<dc:creator>spurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-723706&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The source of the incompetence of this administration is the man himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush has no patience for details or analysis. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush asks that his people keep information from him that would disrupt his “gut” view of the issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney believes that Bush should not be told much so that he can have plausible deniability about matters of law- Bush thinks this is a great idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush has no ability to have a dialogue with analysts or even with his own team in which he demands evidence and guides the group to a decision. On the contrary- he wants to only talk about “doing” he hates anything to do with “thinking” including the people who do it. This causes lower level people to modify their approach and ignore risk analysis, hypothotical analysis, etc. In fact it leads them to ignore doing their job and produce “rah rah- ready, fire, aim” shit that the prez loves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush is certainly anti-intellectual and personally incompetent (though Molly Ivins acknowledged his political skills, in &lt;em&gt;Shrub&lt;/em&gt;), but Rove is highly competent at (crooked) politics; if not, they wouldn’t be where they are now.  And Cheney is not so much incompetent as deluded and dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-723706"><em>rwcole @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The source of the incompetence of this administration is the man himself.</p>
<p>Bush has no patience for details or analysis. </p>
<p>Bush asks that his people keep information from him that would disrupt his “gut” view of the issues.</p>
<p>Cheney believes that Bush should not be told much so that he can have plausible deniability about matters of law- Bush thinks this is a great idea.</p>
<p>Bush has no ability to have a dialogue with analysts or even with his own team in which he demands evidence and guides the group to a decision. On the contrary- he wants to only talk about “doing” he hates anything to do with “thinking” including the people who do it. This causes lower level people to modify their approach and ignore risk analysis, hypothotical analysis, etc. In fact it leads them to ignore doing their job and produce “rah rah- ready, fire, aim” shit that the prez loves.</p>
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<p>Bush is certainly anti-intellectual and personally incompetent (though Molly Ivins acknowledged his political skills, in <em>Shrub</em>), but Rove is highly competent at (crooked) politics; if not, they wouldn’t be where they are now.  And Cheney is not so much incompetent as deluded and dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: spurious</title>
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		<dc:creator>spurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-723705&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adie @ 84&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-723684&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;spurious @ 82&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
BushCo are very, very good at politics, but really piss poor at policy, governing, etc., which they don’t do at all.  And incompetence is an obvious result of the blatant cronyism that characterizes this administration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you’ve got it in a nutshell.  Also I would make a not-too-wild guess that they’re so “poor at policy, governing, etc.” to the point of “incompetence” &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt;, deep down, they don’t give a #&amp;$$ about such things, and thus deliberately focus on whatever superficial political maneuvers most directly serve their own personal gain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whenever I hear some media guru drone on about what this administration seeks to build as a “legacy”, it literally makes me gag.&lt;br /&gt;
Governance, quite simply, does not seem to be part of their formula for personal success.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My sentiments exactly.  I really can’t stand to listen to that garbage.  The ‘legacy’ of this administration will be the huge constitutional mess that will be left to sort out when they’re gone–assuming that they do go.  Disgusting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-723705"><em>Adie @ 84</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-723684"><em>spurious @ 82</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
BushCo are very, very good at politics, but really piss poor at policy, governing, etc., which they don’t do at all.  And incompetence is an obvious result of the blatant cronyism that characterizes this administration.</p>
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<p>I think you’ve got it in a nutshell.  Also I would make a not-too-wild guess that they’re so “poor at policy, governing, etc.” to the point of “incompetence” <em>because</em>, deep down, they don’t give a #&amp;$$ about such things, and thus deliberately focus on whatever superficial political maneuvers most directly serve their own personal gain.</p>
<p>Whenever I hear some media guru drone on about what this administration seeks to build as a “legacy”, it literally makes me gag.<br />
Governance, quite simply, does not seem to be part of their formula for personal success.</p>
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<p>My sentiments exactly.  I really can’t stand to listen to that garbage.  The ‘legacy’ of this administration will be the huge constitutional mess that will be left to sort out when they’re gone–assuming that they do go.  Disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;boyohboy whut a buncha pollyannas we be…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;got some thistles yanked, &amp; now we’re levelling the garden shed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;watch out wurld. gard yer wimmen ‘n chillen ‘er we’re gonna take over the asparagus patch fersure!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;STOP THE VIOLINS!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;VISUALIZE WHIRLED PEAS!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boyohboy whut a buncha pollyannas we be…</p>
<p>got some thistles yanked, &amp; now we’re levelling the garden shed.</p>
<p>watch out wurld. gard yer wimmen ‘n chillen ‘er we’re gonna take over the asparagus patch fersure!</p>
<p>STOP THE VIOLINS!</p>
<p>VISUALIZE WHIRLED PEAS!</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/28/one-for-the-law-wonks/#comment-723706</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The source of the incompetence of this administration is the man himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush has no patience for details or analysis. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush asks that his people keep information from him that would disrupt his “gut” view of the issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney believes that Bush should not be told much so that he can have plausible deniability about matters of law- Bush thinks this is a great idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush has no ability to have a dialogue with analysts or even with his own team in which he demands evidence and guides the group to a decision. On the contrary- he wants to only talk about “doing” he hates anything to do with “thinking” including the people who do it. This causes lower level people to modify their approach and ignore risk analysis, hypothotical analysis, etc. In fact it leads them to ignore doing their job and produce “rah rah- ready, fire, aim” shit that the prez loves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source of the incompetence of this administration is the man himself.</p>
<p>Bush has no patience for details or analysis. </p>
<p>Bush asks that his people keep information from him that would disrupt his “gut” view of the issues.</p>
<p>Cheney believes that Bush should not be told much so that he can have plausible deniability about matters of law- Bush thinks this is a great idea.</p>
<p>Bush has no ability to have a dialogue with analysts or even with his own team in which he demands evidence and guides the group to a decision. On the contrary- he wants to only talk about “doing” he hates anything to do with “thinking” including the people who do it. This causes lower level people to modify their approach and ignore risk analysis, hypothotical analysis, etc. In fact it leads them to ignore doing their job and produce “rah rah- ready, fire, aim” shit that the prez loves.</p>
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