Huge apology to all the dial up folks and the folks at work with rampant firewall video issues, but I had to post this. Enormous H/T to reader Frank Probst for the find. This is just brilliant.
For all you Republican operatives and Bush Administration officials out there with memory lapses, this could be your answer…
(Thanks, Frank, best laugh I have had all day. Mwahahahaha.)
The Muck has a great round-up on the DOJ alternate Monica bus maneuver: it seems that the "I was told I could use political considerations for hiring immigration judges." excuse isn't on as firm a foundation as the King James version of Elle Woods would have us believe. At least, according to the DOJ OIG anyway. (While you are at it, mark June 7 on your calendars: GSA chief Laurita Doan has been cordially invited for another chat with Rep. Waxman's committee. I'm expecting tea and cookies, with plenty of punch to go around.)
Marty Lederman at Balkinization has a great run-down of the outstanding questions on the immigration judge (IJ) issue, and he's right that Goodling was well advised by Dowd to bring it up in order to get that on the record while appearing in a use immunity situation. However, if the OIG and/or OPR already had independent evidence of her conduct such as, say, speaking with applicants who were asked directly about political affiliation, voting records, and loyalty to President Bush, among other things, then that immunity isn't exactly going to provide her with total cover from prosecution, now is it? We live in interesting times…
Here is a bit from the LATimes article on the subject that I found illuminating on several levels:
The Justice Department said it could find no record to support claims by Goodling that taking politics into account to fill positions on the immigration bench had been approved by department officials.
Goodling is already under investigation on suspicion of violating federal civil service rules and department policy for considering political activity while she conducted reviews of candidates for career prosecutors.
She testified before the House Judiciary Committee under a grant of immunity from prosecution.
The internal Justice Department investigation, although focused on Goodling, could turn up embarrassing information about Gonzales' management practices and what, if anything, he knew about the role that politics played in hiring employees protected by civil service laws.
Gonzales' tenure has been shaken by revelations of lax procedures in the firings last year of eight U.S. attorneys, prosecutors who serve at the pleasure of the president and whose tenure is not covered by civil service rules….
They also denied Goodling's assertion that the hiring of immigration judges had been frozen after the department's civil division raised concerns about using a political litmus test.
"There is no disagreement within the department, including between the civil division and the Office of Legal Counsel, about whether the civil service laws apply to the appointment of immigration judges," said Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman. "They do apply."
Under Goodling's immunity agreement, statements that she made to Congress cannot be used against her. But that does not prohibit the government from filing charges, as long as the evidence comes from other sources.
She also could be prosecuted for perjury if she intentionally made false statements to Congress. (emphasis mine)
Is it just me, or is anyone else hearing the sounds of a bus engine warming up in the distance? But for whom? Ah…that IS the question, isn't it? Here's the thing, the OIG's office and the OPR are run by political appointees, but they are both staffed by career folks for whom, at least in some measure for some of them there now anyway, the application of the rule of law and the evidence uncovered is paramount. How these internal investigations proceed is going to be a very interesting bit to watch over the next few weeks, as much as there is any transparency allowed. Here's to some good old-fashioned rock turning, a whole lot of sunshine, and a hefty dose of allowing the facts and the law chips to fall where they may. You know, equal application of the law to achieve justice wherever it may lead.
A girl can dream, anyway…and, in the meantime, please let us know in the comments if you've got word of any other hearings we should make note of for next week. My C-Span addiction overfloweth.
UPDATE: Dang it — meant to link up the WaPo op-ed on Regent grads, Monica, and government service for the Lord. It's an interesting read. Coming from a family where my grandpa was a minister, and a VBS popsicle stick Noah's ark project photo somewhere in a photo album from the past, the shift from an emphasis on doing good work for others to increasing God's control over the political power structures raises a whole lot of questions. It should for everyone, and is worth some discussion. (H/T to twolf1 for the link.)
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They’ll let this ditz twist slowly, slowly. . .
Wow, creepy …
Not even a clue to content for us video impaired pups?
Another reason many of the progressive blogs don’t work for me is the high video content.
I don’t mind the fact that I can’t see the video, just as long as there’s a brief description of what I’m missing. It’s the posts that say “Here’s a video! Ain’t that something! Wow! What do you think of it?” that leave me feeling like the kid with chicken pox watching his friends through the living room window…
Subpoanal gland would be more anatomically correct.
OT:
greenday.com has a link to their performance of “Working Class Hero” (from American Idol).
You can listen to it for free.
Its a Lennon cover.
I guess her contacts were restricted so she’d have little interaction with, you know, real attorneys. Apart from firing them, that is.
Real disadvantage when you don’t have a lot of education, skill or training to fall back on.
My my. Things are popping up all over the place. The bit from George Palast in the last thread is also astounding if true.
Thanks much Christy and Jane for setting up FDL and for creating a community–and for your investigative postings. Much much appreciated.
redX @ 6
“and you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see”
Ummmm … dayplanners.
As I have stated before, IANAL. However. It seems to me that with the career folks staffing OIG and OPR, the political weenies have been put on a (possibly subtle) notice that the political dogs ain’t gonna hunt. If the weenies should TRY to underplay or subvert any investigations going forward, I think the information concerning that attempted subversion is going to be blaring from whatever friendly news sources are avialable with names dates and all pertinent facts out there for Waxman, Leahy, Schumer, et al.
My $.02 and NSHO
Perhaps the political operatives in DOJ are looking at the calender and have noticed that 01/20/09 is coming. The remaining, un-purged DoJ people will have their day. Obstruction of Justice is a nice pitch-fork to use for revenge.
What’s up with Walton on the FISA court? Will Walton do the Libby sentencing? Is this yet another manipulation of the legal system?
If Goodling has a good lawyer, she’s safe, as she can use the Ollie North trick. All the witnesses will quickly rehearse the line “I can’t remember if I saw her do that in person or if I’m just recalling her rivetingly fascinating congressional testimony”. Then the appeals court throws out the conviction.
Here’s one hearing scheduled:
BTW, Good link to track hearing schedules.
“But for Whom”? Whom SSSSSSSSSSSSSS?
Hope the blog world and the MSM show some “chutzpah” and start to write about the upcoming Rosen/Weismann espionage trial. Still appears to be “off limits” even to the “so called” liberal press.
Until then will just keep going to Forward, Jewish Telegraphic Agency and Justin Raimando’s Anti-war.com to get the latest. Everyone else is chicken shit to touch this issue.
“We’re gonna watch you piggies fry”
Love that.
Apologies. I meant to post this one:
just an amazingly diverse, and wonderful,
cachet of resouces, here, christy! excellent!
i admit to being slightly off-
topic at the moment, but actually,
in an odd-way, also on-topic, here:
. . .as a seemingly-endless-single-file row
of “pirates” and “pirate sympathizers”
and “pirate associators” are marched,
in chains, to their 10-at-a-time date
with the gallows, a little boy’s
voice — luminous, and yet clear – begins
a half-whispered song of
p r o t e s t. . .
it is a pirates’ code-song, we learn. . .
and soon, all of the hundreds in line
are singing it — rattling manacles in-
time. . .
but as the chorus rises from mere
whispers, to a thundering harmony,
we hear culter beckett, the official
face of the east india trading
company, and the de-facto corporate-
run government on these islands,
as british possessions, intone:
“in this time of war. . .
the right of habeas
corpus — suspended.
the right to freely
associate with
those of ones’
choosing — suspended.
the right to assistance
of counsel — suspended.
the right to a trial
by jury — suspended. . .“
and still, they sing — they
sing an old pirates’
song — right up until
the little boy, placed
on a barrel to reach
the noose. . .
s w i n g s. . .
it was profoundly ironic,
and yet a teachable moment, for me with
my young-adult children. . .
go see pirates — do not miss the
first four minutes — i am looking
for a clip of it, for my site. . .
that is all. . .
Waccamaw at 4 — I did put in a clue to video content. To wit: “Stimulating The Subpoenal Gland” and “For all you Republican operatives and Bush Administration officials out there with memory lapses, this could be your answer…”
By the way, when did Bradblog get a makeover? I was always interested in his work, but the format and colors drove me literally nuts.
Now it is on the shortlist of bestblogs.
-GSD
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Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
Can anyone tell me what good watchin’ toothless hearings with lyin’ fascist toadies will do for us this summer? After yesterday, we are in the fast lane to Armageddon for our democracy if we don’t bring the war home to the streets this summer.
The people hafta have a vehicle to express their anger and frustration and the only pressure the Democrats are gunna heed is massive action from the grassroots. We have a chance ta get 1968 right here folks and derail Mrs. Clinton and Barak O’Lieberman before Labor Day and set the table for Big Al’s announcement.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT AIMIN”CUZ THERE ARE TOO MANY TARGETS TA MISS!!
Waccamaw @ 4
The Internet access machines are powerful enough at public libraries to capture all videos. Your tax dollars at work.
Joe Buck @ 15
She has an EXPENSIVE lawyer who is supposed to be pretty good.
However.
There is a whole lot more documentary evidence AND evidence from other sources already available that the Ollie North defense probably will not work. Plus, also unlike Iran/Contra, there are other players that she is attempting to throw under the bus which Ollie did NOT do in his testimony. Her finger pointing makes it more likely for folks like McNulty and Croc-a-Kyle will stand up and say nope, didn’t happen.
At Regent University PTL Law Skool they learned Monica that immunity comes from vaccinations, and vaccinations are the devil’s handiwork — designed to make good girls like Monica have sex and other icky stuff like that.
But because Monica was doing God’s work, she accepted the immunity — and is now waiting for her vaccination from prosecution.
Joe Buck @ 15
That might be one damn good reason Sanchez didn’t drill into details over caging during Goodling’s Wednesday testimony.
But now it’s out there.
.
LOL – thanks for that Friday fun, Christy!
Thanks,Christy, I really needed that after sell-out Thursday.
“I can remember.”
off to the borg…
That hillarious. Is there anyway this could run on network tv?
Didn’t Scooter have some great fucking legal team?
despairing @ 14
I don’t know the answer to your first question, but am presuming that nothing is amiss with Judge Walton’s appointment to the FISA court. The answer to your second question is yes; I have heard nothing to the contrary. The answer to your third question is no. Christy, lhp, or any other lawyers here – can you elaborate further, please?
raven @ 31
Good point.
Let’s see. They hire a former Republican oppo researcher. They make her one of the 3 or 4 gatekeepers (per her testimony) for all hiring at the DOJ. They know she is involved in political hires. They give her in March 2006 even more extravagant hiring powers. They could see the kind of people she was hiring. But they are shocked, shocked I tell you, that she used political considerations in immigration judge hires. Next you’re going to tell them the world is round.
Gonzales had management practices? Who knew?
Bluetoe @ 30
No…
the preceding brought to you by the Dept. Of Short Answers, which reminds you:
In the Corporate State, ‘corporate’ media are STATE media.
EvilDrPuma @ 32
Of course these clowns on the committee’s are no Ftiz’s!
I certainly hope that Monica will be prosecuted through other avenues. My immpression of her testimony is that she talked fast, talked long, without saying much of anything. Her responses seemed to be designed to do nothing more than to run out the clock on the questioning Dems.
despairing at 14 — The FISA Court rotates judges periodically, trying to pull from those who have extensive experience with classified matters. Which is why the DC Cir., especially, is represented given the governmental breadth of information they have to deal with in their regular case load. I found Walton to be incredibly fair to both sides of the case, and yet adhering to the application of legal precedents as they read and not as he wanted to manipulate them to be — frankly, you cannot ask for better in a sitting judge in terms of evaluating his performance on the bench during thecourse of the trial.
If I could have one wish, it would be that everyone stop seeing conspiracies around every corner. Sometimes a judge gets appointed to a position because he works is ass off and does his job well — and because his peers respect his judgment. From what I know of Walton’s record on the whole, he adheres to letter of the law readings and does harder sentencng in terms of time and refulsal to add in leniency factors than a lot of other judges. In other words, he has a “tough on crime” reputation, doesn’t like people who do not accept resposibility for their actions and is conservative overall in aproach — but is fair and fairly good about taking the time to balance both sides of an argument. That’s what I personally saw in my time in DC. We’ll see how that applies int he sentencing arguments coming up in June. But duties with FISA are separate and apart from anything in the criminal context for any of his regular case load.
Hugh @ 34
The embarrassing information would be Abu’s inability to manage a foot fungus, let alone a Cabinet-level department.
Scooter was convicted, when?
Has he spent even a minute in jail yet?
Has he even lodged his appeal yet?
.
dear christy hardin smith and frank probst –
thank you and bless you.
i sooo needed that.
OT but fyi I just had a chat with a guy in Congressman Mark Udall’s office re: the Iraq supplemental.
He tried to justify Udall’s vote, blahblahblah, but in the end when I told him I wanted to make sure he knew that the rank and file was seriously pissed off about this, he said, “Oh believe me, we know!” Keep up the pressure, firepups!
wgg: tokin liberal @ 39
is the bong clogged?
Christy–Thanks. I also respect Walton’s work and how he handled Libby’s trial. That’s what I was concerned that he got this FISA appointment (from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?) to somehow remove him from Libby’s sentencing. Thanks for the clarification.
eyes of the world @ 42
they know…
they are not stupid…
just gutless, feckless, useless, worthless, vapid, inane, corrupt, sold-out cowards…
.
wgg: tokin liberal @ 40
When the jury came back with the verdict.
No, because conviction and sentencing are distinct.
Not that I know of.
Christy is a whirlwind!
Wolfowitz gets a little “shock and awe $$$”
http://www.salon.com/opinion/b…..aftermath/
One more “cakewalk in Iraq” down, many more to go!
Does anyone know about what kind of sweet heart $$$$ deal Wolfowitz settled on?
This is what you get when you start an illegal war, kill lots of people and then get kicked out of the World Bank. $$$$
EvilDrPuma @ 46
At least Libby and his wife are not walking out of the “Prettyman” court house any more posing for the MSM. So disgusting.
wgg at 40 — Sentencing is set for June 5th for Libby. Pre-appeal filing notices have been filed, but appeal cannot fully be taken up until sentence is levied against him, other than post-trial motions on procedure and such which, from my following of the trial procedures, will be largely pro forma. He has not served any times because he was granted a stay until sentencing which is, frankly, common in white collar cases.
Kathleen @ 46
Ask MacNamara
Uh-oh. I smell something really, really rancid in that bit about the immigration judges.
They must have been messing with them more than I first thought.
You see, Margaret Chiara, former USA-WDMI was offered an immigration judgeship if she would leave her USA position. She didn’t want a judgeship and turned it down, hoping they’d deploy her elsewhere.
There were at least 2 other USA seats that were not dismissals but movements to judgeships; they will probably never garner close scrutiny since the moves were seen as rewards rather than punishments, although the same ends were achieved by moving out the former USA and replacing them with a Monica-approved candidate. They may originally have tried that with Chiara’s seat.
Bogden, former USA-NV also was offered or suggested for an immigration judgeship, if memory serves. Obviously they were trying to fill the immigration seats as much as they were trying to move out USA’s. You’ll note that neither Bogden nor Chiara ended up with immigration judgeships, whether they rejected the offer, the offers were rescinded or never made manifest.
Goodling testifies there was a freeze on hiring immigration judges, though, at some point in the very recent past. WTF? When was the freeze — before or after Chiara and Bogden got offers? After their offers, so that Chiara and Bogden wouldn’t get seated — and is that what they were told?
There’s more digging to do here, and more than prosecutors at risk. It’s already calling the federal bench into question.
What the hell was going on?
Who Goodling? Who Who Who?
raven @ 43
i don’t use a bong…just roll joints…hence my almost universal appellation: dr.j…
but what relevance could that have in replying to my queries?
Libby was convicted back in late Feb/early March…
he’s still at liberty…
he hasn’t filed an appeal, yet…
he hasn’t spent a minute in jail, yet…
it’s tough to argue that his defense team has been unsuccessful…
.
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Firepu Patriots:
If any of you folks think that the kangaroo system of justice we have today or the toothless whimps in the Democratic leadership are gunna bring any of these criminals to justice in time to save the ‘08 election…well then, I want some a the shit you been smokin’ ‘cuz that’s the only thing that’ll make the concentration camps we’re destined for a bit more comfortable.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THAT DOOBIE, I AIN’T WAITIN’ FOR GADOT ANYMORE!!
From the past:
First Inaugural Address
Grover Cleveland
March 4, 1885
Cleveland wasn’t perfect, by any means, but he had no stomach for government by crony.
wgg: tokin liberal @ 53
I dunno, it just popped into my mind. . .something about tokin. (:
Thanks for the excellent post Christy. I posted Eugene Robinsons WAPO OP-ED Earlier. Here is the Link
I like this piece from the article:
“The deaf and blind Republicans on the committee apparently missed that part of her opening statement. They also missed the part when she accused Gonzales’s former deputy, Paul McNulty, of telling untruths to Congress — and, in the process, hanging Goodling out to dry. Those dogged GOP interrogators did, however, manage to elicit from Goodling the startling disclosure that she believes she is a good person and also the revelation that while she might have broken a few laws, she didn’t set out to do anything illegal.”
UPDATE: Dang it — meant to link up the WaPo op-ed on Regent grads, Monica, and government service for the Lord. It’s an interesting read. Coming from a family where my grandpa was a minister, and a VBS popsicle stick Noah’s ark project photo somewhere in a photo album from the past, the shift from an emphasis on doing good work for others to increasing God’s control over the political power structures raises a whole lot of questions. It should for everyone, and is worth some discussion. (H/T to twolf1 for the link.)
Comparing the current age of theocracy with the more open past we had enjoyed, I gotta say, this country was way better off rendering unto Caesar what was Caesar’s, and rendering unto the gods and godesses the things that were theirs.
We are gonna have to weed out the infiltraitors
14 – what chs said at 38.
FISA duties are an “add on” and do not change the Judge’s status as a Fed Dist Court Judge. Walton has a lot of classified info experience and is a pretty logical selection.
I don’t see conspiracies around every corner, but I do kind of have to compare Walton’s selection against Robert’s last FISA appointment, Bate. Bates, a former Whitewater prosecuter (dang – how many were there??????) had only been a Dist Ct Judge since 2001 and his main claim to fame was keeping the GAO from investigating Cheney – and weirdly, by luck of the draw, he is now going to figure out if Wilson’s can go after Cheney.
Life is just a box of chocolates.
Good morning. All your posts this morning have been informative and spot on. Thanks, Christy.
CHS – Little help here for a Canadian lawyer! When it comes to negotiating immunity deals with Congressional committees, are their any rules governing disclosure by the relevant committee to the potential witness? Is the potential witness under any reciprocal obligation of disclosure? Or is this only confined to the criminal context, and the negotiation is purely a matter of bargaining power between the Committee and the witness? I bring this up because I was surprised that Dowd made no formal proffer before Har-monica’s testimony. But as you say, it is only “use” immunuity, and there is plenty of evidence and witnesses they could get to prove Har-Monica “crossed the line” without her confession. But short of a formal proffer, Dowd did give the Dems some shiny objects to play with – I was interested in MG having hung AGAG out to dry with the “coaching” accusation – IIRC, the same thing Bill Clinton was alleged to have done with Betty Currie. It struck me that having MG implicate AGAG was the old “Modified Limited HangOut” from the Watergate playbook – Dowd’s job is to keep the focus on AGAG, which suits the purpose of Rove just fine. Not trying to make an insensitive cultural reference, but AGAG is the pinata that just won’t break open, no matter how many times the Democrats hit him blindly with their sticks. They can continue to leak damaging stuff about him to keep the party going and the kids can keep bashing the pinata, because they don’t care about having a functioning AG or Justice Department – quite the opposite! But while everyone keeps swinging at the pinata, no one is attacking Rove or Bush – they have to throw out something to keep the Democrats interested in the pinata.
stephen-
left you a comment yesterday in political calculus thread, #287, about a print.
great job christie, guess we’ll have to wait and see what the next hit on the pinata brings.
Mary 4–Thanks so much. I was afraid the FISA judge gig was a full-time obligation that would remove Walton from the Libby sentencing. Whew, and thanks.
WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain assailed Democratic rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Friday for voting against legislation paying for the Iraq war, accusing them of embracing “the policy of surrender.”
“What is Senator Obama and Senator Clinton’s ‘Plan B’ if we withdraw?” McCain, an Arizona senator who backed the measure, said in a telephone interview. “What are their options if the withdrawal fails and we have chaos and genocide?”
Bowing to President Bush, the Democratic-controlled Congress grudgingly approved fresh billions for the Iraq war Thursday night, minus the troop withdrawal timeline that drew his earlier veto.
Yet, when pressed, McCain suggested he didn’t have his own alternative plan for success should President Bush’s recent troop build-up, which he supports, fail. “We are examining many other plans and none of the options are good,” he said. “I have other options, but they are not good.”
1,526 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Firepup Patriots:
Is there gunna be a FDL caucus at the Yealy Kos? We got reservations and Mama’s gunna let me drive ‘er new car.
KEEP THE FAITH AND I’LL SEE YA ON THE STREET!!
Giving credit where credit is due, I got the link from my friend Brendan. Brendan? You here? Take a bow!
OOPS..That’s “new CAR” not “new card” [Fixed by mod]
The WaPo op-ed Christy links to studiously does not look at the question of why a grad from a conservative, religious college and law school had no qualms in breaking the law. It tries to separate Goodling and her clones’ conservative politics from their religious beliefs. But I think it is precisely because they do not separate them that they are dangerous. Much as I disagree with conservatives I do not think them inherently law breaking. But mix in religion and you have those who obey a higher law and are willing to bend, twist, and break that lesser earthly law of the Constitution and the US Penal Code.
Stupid me. Looking at this picture of Monical Goodling, I finally realized who she reminds me of: Alice in Wonderland!
Monica stepped behind the Looking Glass and ended up at the DOJ, working on the Dark Side.
I think it no accident that she cultivates this goodie-two-shoes look. Got her pretty far I must say. But like Alice she must ultimately wake up from her dream.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003298.php
(Deleted by author.)
raven @ 64:
You scooped me on that one.
Hugh @ 68
Reminds me of an anecdote I read from a guy working in manufacturing in Texas.
He went to audit a prospective vendor that supplied machine tooling, and asked the owner/manager if he could see his Quality Assurance program or Quality Manual.
The prospective vendor reached in his desk drawer and pulled out a thick book, slammed it down on the desk and said, “Here’s the only quality manual ah need and use!”
It was a Bible.
And they wonder why so many manufacturing jobs have been shipped offshore…
Bernie Sanders on Hartman was very hopeful. Hes saying that we must keep on with what were doing. He says the Repugs are weakening and will stop supporting Bush.
We must work on elections and organize around a progressive agenda. We are making progress keep going.
I am displeased.
It would have been nice if the funny video had gotten it right — Republicans weren’t firing “attorneys general for political gain” they were firing US Attorneys. Is this stuff really so complicated?
Goodling is a Quisling to America
Goodling is a blank slate with a law degree. How perfect to work their evil.
Hugh @ 68
well said
raven @ 64
Boy, why am I not surprised? McCain is both an idiot and a hypocrite. Anyone else get the impression he’s going prematurely senile?
snowbird42 @ 72
Pressure, pressure, pressure. Never let up despite being pissed and discouraged. Put the fear of God in Congress.
dreamcatcher @ 69
I was surprised whe wasn’t wearing a blue dress with a white pinafore, and of course maryjanes with white anklets
snowbird42 @ 72
What ELSE is he gonna say?
why does ‘progress’ look sooooo much like the same ol’ crapola?
blue e @ 77
The Republican Party is a criminal conspiracy. Philosophical conservatives may not be criminals per se but there is little doubt that todays “Republicans” are if not criminals certainly neo-fascists.
wgg: tokin liberal @ 81
Bernie has less of an axe to grind.
peter @ 55
grover cleveland wrote that? damn, it could have come out of Dean’s mouth in ‘04 with a small revision of what are now archaic phrases.
thank you for fulfilling the ‘learn something new every day’ portion of my net cruising.
(vid hilarious, sorry the dialup/work folks can’t see it, if you can, get thee to a broadband and have a laugh)
it was a rotten day yesterday, but I’ll never surrender, never forget. There’s a couple more new Dems who won’t be getting any contributions from me this cycle, I’ll give that cash to Welsh and Kissell and other good candidates who will end this war, who will protect human rights for all, and that includes full citizenship for LGBT people and complete privacy and freedom for women to make their own decisions about their bodies their health and when/if to bear children.
that vid, and Scout’s over at First Draft
helped me get over the rage and anger and move on to the next step: revenge at the polls.
Christy@ 49
Have you seen this?
Libby a Jail Bird?
I read it first thing this morning and it made my day. How much stock do you put in the former USA’s assertation that Libby may very well not be able to stay free pending appeal?
I’ve decided to reinstate my #70. On further perusal, it’s different from raven @ 64.
Predictables:
My bold. As if anyone would be surprised about what these meat-heads have to say about the matter.
Schumer thinks he has 60 votes for his no confidence jobber.
If he can’t 60, what does that tell you about
our democracy?
Sad days, these days…
where i come from, that sure enough sounds like law-breaking to me…
like when we broke the laws to oppose the ICORP of Vietnam…
nobody pretended we hadn’t broken the law; even if they (Berrigans, et al) claimed allegiance to a higher authority, they were still sent the frack to jail…
.
Helen at 85 — Was just taking a look at that and will have something on it in a bit.
Hugh @ 78
Not prematurely senile…he is already at least 70..so you could say maturely senile. Of course not all ol’ folks are senile…but McCain shows serious signs of cognitive dissonance, meaning he doesn’t know what he’s talking ’bout. His brain gets tickled and in response, his gums flap.
He is running on Duracell, so this could go on for a while.
Hey, I have a question for the legal folks here. Yesterday, either the WaPo or the NY Times said that Davis knew to ask the questions about the Gonzales/Goodling ‘this is my memory of events (let me shape your testimony)’ talk because Goodling’s lawyers told Davis to ask questions about it.
I’m not sure, but wasn’t that the section of the hearings where the lawyers suddenly came to life and starting bringing objections all over the place? If it was the section where the lawyers started objecting, then what was the point? Why tell someone to ask questions about something and then start impeding the questioning? My mind is not torturous enough to follow this logic; any clarification would be appreciated.
Bay State Librul @ 87
Well, if the Senate followed the country, we would expect around 28% or 28 to stand with Gonzales. That many more Republicans will vote for him will just be more confirmation to the other 70% of Americans how complicit the Republican Party is in the incompetence and criminality of this Administration.
Helen @ 85
Thanks Helen.
We will soon know whether the Government
will condone a massive stonewalling project
Throw the leak at him!
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052507J.shtml
Bay State Librul @ 87
there aren’t even 51 SURE votes in the Dumbocrap caucus…
Loserman, the Nelsons, Lincoln, i’m not even sure Bingaman would vote for a No Confidence measure…
quick (or even slwoly–take your time), name 15 Pukes who’ll vote No Confidenence?
WGG-Tokin Liberal @ 88 – Exactly, civil disobedience draws its moral force and justification from the willingness of the protester to accept the punishment – like MLK in the Atlanta jail and Thoreau imprisoned for withholding his Mexican War taxes.
I’ve been meaning to throw this into the comments for a while. There’s an old Op-Ed on the topic of mixing religion and government. Although it is too long to post here, it is still worth a read. I don’t think is available online.
Government is Not God’s Work
Robert H. Meneilly
(New York Times, August 29, 1993)
ummmmm, err…..
Now apply that logic to the votes on the funding measures yestiddy? around the same proportion say they support the war…
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meep! at 91 – my take on this is at 61. Dowd is looking at the big picture on this – he didn’t give up much in her testimony that the Dems couldn’t get elsewhere, and remember, Dowd is Ken Mehlman’s law partner and has other objectives – ie keeping the focus off the WH.
Pach has a new thread upstairs…
Albatross @ 5
A take off on the drug commercials. Those suffering from “I don’t remember”
I used to be able to remember the basic fact things in life, dates, facts, attorneys general that the White House wanted to fire for politcal gain, but now I can’t remember anything. . .
Are you a Republican operative suffering from severe memory loss? This condition can affect your relationships, work and your ability to testify accurately before Congress. This can be devastating ….
Now there is hope, ask your representative about supoenas now with immunity from prosecution.
Supoenas. Proven memory recovery for Repulicans. You can remember.
Supoenas … you can remember
(just the gist … lots more with clips of Sampson, Gonzalas, Dowd and Goodling)
Via Raw Story: Conyers worries about false testimony
wgg: tokin liberal @ 98
Different issues but the logic is the same. The Republicans carry the onus for the failed policies of this Administration for the 6 years they controlled the Congress, but with the changeover due to the November elections, the Democrats need to stand up to this Administration, not enable it. If they fail to do so as with the supplemental flimflam, the onus will fall on them as well.
Ishmael @ 99
Hunh. Okay. Y’know, I used to think I’d be a good lawyer — I have a great memory, excellent analytical skills, am very articulate, and I enjoy presenting arguments. Sadly, I’ve come to realise that I simply don’t have the strategy skills for the job …
Have not read all 103 comments, so I hope this is not a repetition. Fresh in from TPMuckraker are some links relevant to earlies investigations about unqualified immigration judges:
“Malphrus is also named specifically in this GAO report as likely not having been qualified to receive the appointment that he did:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06381.pdf
(he’s the nameless White House appointee referenced in the report — you’ve got to read it!)
Here’s Gary:
First Job –
Associate Director
Domestic Policy Council
The White House
3 U.S.C. 105
AD-0301-00/00
$61,000
Second Job –
Immigration Judge
Executive Office for
Immigration Review
IJ-0905-00/01
$113,904
03/20/05
Nice salary increase!
And he also appears on another critical list in the report:
“Conversions Where It Could Not Be Determined Whether Appropriate Authorities and Proper Procedures Were Followed.”
Posted by: Citizen 92
Date: May 25, 2007 12:52 PM
Now we know how much was at stake, and how much was lost, when Hoyer won the battle over Murtha for Majority Leader. The failure of the rank and file Democrats to support Murtha shows that they were more interested in
pork and earmarkspolitics than reigning in Bush on the war.So why are we all so shocked now?
Grover Cleveland’s comments are a direct descendant from those of Thomas Jefferson -”The price of liberty is eternal vigilance”.
Somewhere along the way, we forgot that democracy depends upon each citizen coming to the defense of the Constitution. Somewhere along the way, we have allowed pudits and the elite to devalue the opinions and principled stands of ordinary citizens.
I suggest, for an enterpirsing radio host, a daily program segment airing citizens’ versions of “eternal vigilance”.
Marilyn
The only explanation that makes sense is that the DOJ would rather look stupid because they would be viewed as crazy if they told the truth:
Jaysus wrote the list.
Thank God for Jon Stewart and TDS. “It’s like the entire DOJ took a **** in my head!!!”
Monica needed to plead the fifth and receive immunity, and then she barely admits to having done anything wrong.
If the various justice officials who are testifying all believe that the US attorney dismissals were legal and that such dismissals were the president’s right, then why bother to protect the originator of the list?
Sorry I haven’t read the post yet but that video is so funny – I had to watch it twice. Thank you I’ve been real depressed since the funding vote and I really needed the laugh.
dreamcatcher @ 106
I’m not. As much loved as Maxine Waters is by many FDL’ers, she backed Hoyer. That just goes to how opaque the power game is on the inside.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Maxine, too. But politics is politics. She had her reasons, as did others.
“… the King James version of Elle Woods …”
::laughing outloud::
thank you, christy. that’s perfect.
Thomas Heffelfinger (Minnesota) was one of the U.S. Attorneys who appeared on Kyle Samson’s firing list. Monica Goodling mentioned him briefly during her testimony this week. She said that she’d heard he “spent an extraordinary amount of time” on his work relating to his position as Chairman of the Native American Issues Subcommittee (NAIS) of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee.
Heffelfinger appeared on the list in January 2006, and a month later he voluntarily resigned. When he heard of Ms. Goodling’s testimony he had this to say:
I did spent a lot of time on it… That’s what I was instructed to do [by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft].
If it’s true that people within the Department of Justice were critical of the amount of time I was spending on Indian issues, I’m outraged. … Are they telling me I spent too much time trying to improve public safety for Native Americans, who are victims of violent crime at a rate 2 times the national population? If they are, then shame on them.
Who could object to the fact that a U.S. Attorney from Minnesota was devoting his time to improving the lot of American Indians? Well, that would be whoever is victimizing a lot of American Indians.
Does the name Jack Abramoff ring a bell?
Admittedly, none of Jack Abramoff’s Indian client/victims were up in Minnesota. But after his guilty plea, also in January of 2006, the investigation into his nefarious activities widened. Disrupting the subcommittee of U.S. attorneys that dealt with American Indian issues at that crucial time probably didn’t help the investigation.
Or it could just be a coincidence.
Please visit the Schapira blog, “What we know so far …”
“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”
It’s the same everywhere in DC. Lie, lose, steal beg… do not tell the truth. Can anyone produce a list of 10 honest people in DC?????
I have about five on my short list at present and this is frightening.
Allegience to Bush is scary stuff people. It wierd how he always says how important the ‘rule of law’ is.
~itunkala at 112 — Glad you liked it.
catbirdman @ 74
Sometimes it’s simple. Not always.
waynemadsenreport.com is suggesting the firings were partly a coverup for the first USA firing (which isn’t even included in the list we usually see). Why coverup that one? WMR says it’s because he was investigating the DC Madam case and knew all the Repubs on her list. I think it was also there in Maryland where the assistant USA was brutally murdered.
So, “simple”? Perhaps. But, it needs investigation for us to be more certain.
Best.
Video.
Ever.
I am laughing my fucking ass off.
As the famous John Prine once sang- Their are all these things I can’t quite remember, How lucky can one man get!!
…why does the phrase “immunity bath’ nag at me? Political Considerations in hiring(and firing)? Caging lists? HMMMmmm Cleanliness is next to …um, er you know(not in the Biblical Sense of “knowing) AAARRRRGH nevermind