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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720920</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 00:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gee, pageup — i don’t share&lt;br /&gt;
your views re ex-gov. ryan, nor&lt;br /&gt;
your views of patrick fitzgerald.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;in his day job — he just calls&lt;br /&gt;
balls and strikes&lt;/b&gt;.  in fact, in&lt;br /&gt;
his night-job, he does the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now — deeply epu’d though i be,&lt;br /&gt;
for completeness, i’ll leave thee:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[he he!]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this link — i started to &lt;a href=&quot;http://indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/2007/05/on-publics-right-of-access-to-some-of.html&quot;&gt;make a&lt;br /&gt;
rather shortish post to &lt;b&gt;counter&lt;/b&gt; all&lt;br /&gt;
the &lt;b&gt;team libby hype &lt;/b&gt;about the letters&lt;br /&gt;
being presumptively &lt;b&gt;beyond the eye-balls&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
of the american people, and press — but it&lt;br /&gt;
kinda’ grew and grew, until, i found i&lt;br /&gt;
had a pretty deeply resourced post&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
all brewed-up, and ready-to-serve. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so — just like what i wrote at the last&lt;br /&gt;
hurrah, i’ll link it here, as well.  my bet&lt;br /&gt;
is the people will see every one of those letters&lt;br /&gt;
unless judge walton issues an “&lt;em&gt;upward&lt;br /&gt;
departing&lt;/em&gt;” sentence. . .  it certainly&lt;br /&gt;
won’t be downward-departing, i.m.h.o. . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, pageup — i don’t share<br />
your views re ex-gov. ryan, nor<br />
your views of patrick fitzgerald.</p>
<p><b>in his day job — he just calls<br />
balls and strikes</b>.  in fact, in<br />
his night-job, he does the same.</p>
<p>now — deeply epu’d though i be,<br />
for completeness, i’ll leave thee:</p>
<p>[he he!]</p>
<p>this link — i started to <a href="http://indictdickcheney.blogspot.com/2007/05/on-publics-right-of-access-to-some-of.html">make a<br />
rather shortish post to <b>counter</b> all<br />
the <b>team libby hype </b>about the letters<br />
being presumptively <b>beyond the eye-balls</b><br />
of the american people, and press — but it<br />
kinda’ grew and grew, until, i found i<br />
had a pretty deeply resourced post</a>,<br />
all brewed-up, and ready-to-serve. . .</p>
<p>so — just like what i wrote at the last<br />
hurrah, i’ll link it here, as well.  my bet<br />
is the people will see every one of those letters<br />
unless judge walton issues an “<em>upward<br />
departing</em>” sentence. . .  it certainly<br />
won’t be downward-departing, i.m.h.o. . .</p>
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		<title>By: PageUp</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720713</link>
		<dc:creator>PageUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 22:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To pwright and the rest of the Fitz groupies:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can joke all you want — but you will be wrong again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, Ryan was a low hanging fruit as you can get.  An ex-Republican governor, corrupt as the day as long, who pissed off fellow Republicans in the state of Illinois.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for Fitzgerald not being a Republican . . . come on, do a little research. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want to worship at the alter of Fitzgerald that’s fine.  But if you think that the sentencing of aa person who. at max, might get three years for the crime of betraying their country at a time of war is justice that all I have to ask is who is the troll?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To pwright and the rest of the Fitz groupies:</p>
<p>You can joke all you want — but you will be wrong again.</p>
<p>Yes, Ryan was a low hanging fruit as you can get.  An ex-Republican governor, corrupt as the day as long, who pissed off fellow Republicans in the state of Illinois.</p>
<p>As for Fitzgerald not being a Republican . . . come on, do a little research. </p>
<p>If you want to worship at the alter of Fitzgerald that’s fine.  But if you think that the sentencing of aa person who. at max, might get three years for the crime of betraying their country at a time of war is justice that all I have to ask is who is the troll?</p>
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		<title>By: Natal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720444</link>
		<dc:creator>Natal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can someone please explain how Libby can admit a wrongdoing at this point when he has appeals pending?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I can’t see anybody, let alone Libby, confessing guilt or being contrite when his whole case was an adamant innocence. I suppose he could say I’m sorry people were hurt because of my failed memory and great workload. But that won’t satisfy most people here. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would take a great man to fess up to such crimes. I’m afraid Libby doesn’t fit the bill here nor would most of us who are out to see him punished to the maximum degree.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain how Libby can admit a wrongdoing at this point when he has appeals pending?</p>
<p>Also, I can’t see anybody, let alone Libby, confessing guilt or being contrite when his whole case was an adamant innocence. I suppose he could say I’m sorry people were hurt because of my failed memory and great workload. But that won’t satisfy most people here. </p>
<p>It would take a great man to fess up to such crimes. I’m afraid Libby doesn’t fit the bill here nor would most of us who are out to see him punished to the maximum degree.</p>
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		<title>By: my too sense</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720293</link>
		<dc:creator>my too sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mock them…come on..When they “self parody”  themselves so well…the stuff they say, do, and write is always a head way above what any skilled blogger can come up with. It speaks for itself….you can’t make their own comments and actions  up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s that saying, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they get afraid because you mock them, then you win.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How pathetic. The ruling class is afraid that bloggers might mock them…and they wonder why the country and our foreign policy is in the shitter these days.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mock them…come on..When they “self parody”  themselves so well…the stuff they say, do, and write is always a head way above what any skilled blogger can come up with. It speaks for itself….you can’t make their own comments and actions  up.</p>
<p>What’s that saying, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they get afraid because you mock them, then you win.</p>
<p>How pathetic. The ruling class is afraid that bloggers might mock them…and they wonder why the country and our foreign policy is in the shitter these days.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720093</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 15:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-719201&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pwrlght @ 40&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does anyone know if letters were written to Walton against Libby?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-719235&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @ 68&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-719225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 59&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Teddy,&lt;br /&gt;
It sounds like it.  Top of page 7, first full sentence, he talks about the privacy of the Libby supporters and those who have written in against him as both being compromised if the letters are published…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am now so wondering who-all wrote nice letters for Scooter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think the Federalist Society?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From wikipedia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Federalist Society members helped to encourage President Bush’s decision to terminate the American Bar Association’s nearly half-century-old monopoly on rating judicial nominees’ qualifications for office. Since the Eisenhower administration, the American Bar Association has provided the service to presidents of both parties and the nation by vetting the qualifications of those under consideration for lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary. The process has been accused by some (including the Federalist Society) of having a liberal bias.[1][2][3] For example, the ABA gave Ronald Reagan’s judicial nominees Richard Posner and Frank H. Easterbrook low “qualified/not qualified” ratings; later, the ABA gave Bill Clinton judicial nominees with similar resumes “well qualified” ratings.[11] Meanwhile, Judges Posner and Easterbrook have gone on to become the two most highly-cited judges in the federal appellate judiciary.[4]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[edit] Members&lt;br /&gt;
The Society has many prominent conservative members, including United States Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia (who served as the original faculty advisor to the organization), Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, former United States Circuit Court Judge Robert Bork, former United States Attorney General Edwin Meese, former United States Solicitor General Ted Olson, Senator Orrin Hatch, former United States Solicitor General Kenneth Starr and Congressman Dan Lungren.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-719201"><em>pwrlght @ 40</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Does anyone know if letters were written to Walton against Libby?</p>
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<p><a href="#comment-719235"><em>HotFlash @ 68</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-719225"><em>dakine01 @ 59</em></a></p>
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<p>Teddy,<br />
It sounds like it.  Top of page 7, first full sentence, he talks about the privacy of the Libby supporters and those who have written in against him as both being compromised if the letters are published…</p>
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<p>I am now so wondering who-all wrote nice letters for Scooter.</p>
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<p>Do you think the Federalist Society?</p>
<p>From wikipedia</p>
<p> Federalist Society members helped to encourage President Bush’s decision to terminate the American Bar Association’s nearly half-century-old monopoly on rating judicial nominees’ qualifications for office. Since the Eisenhower administration, the American Bar Association has provided the service to presidents of both parties and the nation by vetting the qualifications of those under consideration for lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary. The process has been accused by some (including the Federalist Society) of having a liberal bias.[1][2][3] For example, the ABA gave Ronald Reagan’s judicial nominees Richard Posner and Frank H. Easterbrook low “qualified/not qualified” ratings; later, the ABA gave Bill Clinton judicial nominees with similar resumes “well qualified” ratings.[11] Meanwhile, Judges Posner and Easterbrook have gone on to become the two most highly-cited judges in the federal appellate judiciary.[4]</p>
<p>[edit] Members<br />
The Society has many prominent conservative members, including United States Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia (who served as the original faculty advisor to the organization), Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, former United States Circuit Court Judge Robert Bork, former United States Attorney General Edwin Meese, former United States Solicitor General Ted Olson, Senator Orrin Hatch, former United States Solicitor General Kenneth Starr and Congressman Dan Lungren.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-720079</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 14:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-719235&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @ 68&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-719225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 59&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Teddy,&lt;br /&gt;
It sounds like it.  Top of page 7, first full sentence, he talks about the privacy of the Libby supporters and those who have written in against him as both being compromised if the letters are published…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am now so wondering who-all wrote nice letters for Scooter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember the Libby team requesting the public to send letters to the Judge in support of Libby and they said, I am going to paraphrase here, “if you are an attorney let the Judge know that”. It might have also included other occupations, but I specifically remember the request for lawyers to write to the Walton in support of Libby and tell him you are a lawyer. I remember thinking, they want the attys to influence the judge, is that legal?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-719235"><em>HotFlash @ 68</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-719225"><em>dakine01 @ 59</em></a></p>
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<p>Teddy,<br />
It sounds like it.  Top of page 7, first full sentence, he talks about the privacy of the Libby supporters and those who have written in against him as both being compromised if the letters are published…</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I am now so wondering who-all wrote nice letters for Scooter.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I remember the Libby team requesting the public to send letters to the Judge in support of Libby and they said, I am going to paraphrase here, “if you are an attorney let the Judge know that”. It might have also included other occupations, but I specifically remember the request for lawyers to write to the Walton in support of Libby and tell him you are a lawyer. I remember thinking, they want the attys to influence the judge, is that legal?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-719923</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 09:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would LOVE to see bush pardon Libby.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The firestorm has to start sometime;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why not now?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plus, bush and the GOP’s “political capital” cupboard is pretty skimpy, these days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Marie said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Let them eat jello and canned sardines.” :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would LOVE to see bush pardon Libby.</p>
<p>The firestorm has to start sometime;</p>
<p>Why not now?</p>
<p>Plus, bush and the GOP’s “political capital” cupboard is pretty skimpy, these days.</p>
<p>As Marie said:</p>
<p>“Let them eat jello and canned sardines.” :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Athos</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-719916</link>
		<dc:creator>Athos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 08:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The matter is so very simple:&lt;br /&gt;
Fitz was supposed to officially (since everyone knows) find out and punish the lickers.&lt;br /&gt;
Did he do it? Did he do it? Nope.&lt;br /&gt;
When he didn’t touch Rove, everyone said “wow, this is high strategy!”, and after all these years of waiting he has only been able to find out that libby lied. Big deal!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All this is ridicolous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would be interesting to know what the Wilsons think of this whole business.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The matter is so very simple:<br />
Fitz was supposed to officially (since everyone knows) find out and punish the lickers.<br />
Did he do it? Did he do it? Nope.<br />
When he didn’t touch Rove, everyone said “wow, this is high strategy!”, and after all these years of waiting he has only been able to find out that libby lied. Big deal!</p>
<p>All this is ridicolous.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to know what the Wilsons think of this whole business.</p>
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		<title>By: SP (at work)</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-719894</link>
		<dc:creator>SP (at work)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 06:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My prediction based on Judge Walton’s admonishments during the trial: three years. In the electric chair.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction based on Judge Walton’s admonishments during the trial: three years. In the electric chair.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/25/manna/#comment-719858</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 06:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wager that Fred Hiatt is one of those letter writers asking for leniency. I think we can guess a lot of the writers: Cheney, Bush, Addington, Rice, Victoria Toensing etc..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An I Think Bush is the reason why the judge is reluctant to release those letters.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wager that Fred Hiatt is one of those letter writers asking for leniency. I think we can guess a lot of the writers: Cheney, Bush, Addington, Rice, Victoria Toensing etc..</p>
<p>An I Think Bush is the reason why the judge is reluctant to release those letters.</p>
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