Don't know why, but this video cracks me up. And I thought everyone could use a little amusement this morning. And so, I give you Fall Out Boy and a group of chimpanzees in suits. And now for the round-up of blog news and posts you may have missed:
– David Neiwert at Orcinus has a chilling tale of threats to the personal safety of judges by a right-wing radio personality and his creepy followers. I'm certain that the justices in question, and their personal security details are aware of the laws in their particular jurisdiction, but where I am a threat to the safety of a public official, veiled or otherwise, which is intended to change the way in which they are performing their duties is a felony. If that is not the case in that jurisdiction, perhaps the state legislature might consider adding that in — threats to the public safety of an official ought to be a crime and ought to be taken very seriously. The cost to taxpayers for the extra protection required is tremendous, let alone the strain on public servans whose own livs and the lives of their families are severely disrupted. It becomes impossible to recruit good people for public office if these sorts of threats are downplayed or allowed to continue without punishment.
Having had threats to my own safety from time to time when I was an assistant prosecutor — and having had to re-up my NRA certification to maintain my proficiency for a conceal carry permit from time to time as a result during those years (yes, I have been to the gun range, and am a decent shot, why do you ask?) – I can tell you that it is no joke to try and do your job to the best of your ability and have to worry about your own and your familiy's personal safety because of that job. Through the years the US Supreme Court, federal judges and state court judges have been threatened — not just by nut jobs in the general populace, but also by members of Congress during the Shiavo mess as just one example. This has to stop — it is not acceptable, and people on both sides of the aisle should stand up and say so.
– Roy at Alicublog had a great piece on a recent David Brooks op-ed that brings home the one thing the Bush Administration has managed to accomplish: "Today, thanks to the gross incompetence of the Bush Administration, no one believes that Republicans, at the Federal level at least, can be of any assistance at all in such matters, except perhaps to help us drown faster during national emergencies."
– C&L had some great late night music club with Bob Dylan.
– Bob Geiger has the full text of Sen. Byrd's speech from Monday on turning the sands of Iraq red. I had seen this on Monday and meant to link it up, as I know some of you were looking for a transcript, and forgot to link it for everyone. Sorry about that…it's been one of those weeks, I'm afraid.
– Tristero over at Digby's has a frightening tale of Bush Administration cronyism. It's got the potential for Brownie Part 85 written all over it. Blergh.
– In case you were wondering how things are going in New Orleans, Scout Prime has an update. FUBAR pretty much sums it up, but go read her piece to see what I mean.
– I missed Wolcott's summary of the last GOP presidential debate while I was on vacation. It's too funny not to share. Enjoy.
– NBC has a preview of the Phase II report (found via Laura Rozen.)
– Jim McDonald at Making Light has a few thoughts about the reports of al qaeda in Iraq and the selective declassification CYA project.
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- Blackwater Bribed Iraqi Officials After Nissour Square Massacre
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Hi Christy!
I was so intent on reading that I missed a zed opportunity! Drat!
When I was a probation officer a few years ago writing sentence recommendations to ’super court’ in Cali, I always had a loaded SW police special with me.
forgot my goin’ downstairs duty again. oops
Morning all — how’s tricks?
EPU’d, I’ll claim it’s on topic as there are several Iraq links in the post :)
A possibly idle query…
It drives me nuts to hear the Dems say, “We just didn’t have the votes.” They knew in January they didn’t have the votes. They knew Bush would veto the bill. Did they really not consider what they would do after Bush vetoed the bill and they lacked the votes?
What was the thinking when this all started? Because if you read what Dem staffers have been saying privately, they seem all to have been caught by surprise in what a bad political bind they got caught in. (Let’s leave aside the apparently clear fact that there’s no actual bind here when 65%-plus support you.)
Planning, folks. Planning
Christy Hardin Smith @ 5
Mornin’, Christy. Thanks for the Woolcott – briefly made me forget the invertebrates who call themselves Democrats in Washington.
I can claim Boxer as one of mine, which puts me one ahead of lots of people.
Am jealous of folks in Massachusetts, who have 2 Senators and several Reps who get it.
Mutant Poodle @ 7
MP, what are we to do about our other (ahem) leader? I say DiFi’s done.
Professor Foland @ 6
Well, the Dems committed the cardinal sin of negotiating with themselves, and they lost.
Plus they never had a floor beyond which they wouldn’t go, even if it meant chimpy calling them really bad names.
Having just learned that my very new senator, Klobachar, voted for this obscenity, I am even more angry, befuddled, and disgusted. I personally dragged every senior I knew, with walkers, wheelchairs, canes, etc., to vote for her to get rid of Kennedy, but NOOOOO….
I will call her office, but expect little info. Just more blathering. But they need to hear from us.
So, Christy, do you and Valerie hit the target range together when you need a little “just us girls” time?
;)
– NBC has a preview of the Phase II report
well, that’s quite interesting, and serves to even more to put the lie to the “no one could have anticpated…” stuff, but I thought that the Phase II Report was for the purpose of looking at the extent, if any, that the admin cherry-picked, manipulated, or just plain made some shit up on the pre-war intelligence.
I dropped this in the last thread, but here’s a little article on the eve of Memorial day to make you reflect when those jets whoosh in formation overhead:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..v=hcmodule
Professor Foland @ 6
Too much listening to George Bush: We don’t need no stinking planning around here.
ITBD – Inside the Beltway Disease?
Zee @ 8
DiFi must have photos of over half the electorate. Be interesting to see a netroots challenge to her, but I think California is probably the toughest place to pull that off, given the physical size & population.
Professor Foland @ 6
I agree. It seems to me that too many Dems have internalized the Bush administration mantra “No one could have anticipated . . .” and therefore quit even trying to think four steps ahead.
Professor Foland @ 6
Been thinking the same thing.
Good Morning Christy!
You’ve got a tall order today.
The pups are cranky & runnin’ all over the dang place.
Me? I’m jus’ tryin’ ta keep up *puff puff*
It never ceases to amaze me that some folks just insist there is written somewhere in da “constitution”, a right to get something done right on their second chance. One chance is all there is. How cum the demicrats buy into the second chance mumbo-jumbo, don’t they think the public has more than a short term memory? There is a most honourable Irish tradition for “unassailable” folk, – Boycott!
All the best…..
Good Morning Christy!
Hi Christy,
I’m a lurker who very much appreciates this site. I have two questions for you… are you aware that BBC reporter Greg Palast has 500 of the missing Rove emails? Congressman Conyers wasn’t, neither was Senator Waxman. I made sure they were aware- now we’ll see what happens. Second question- are you familiar with Operation Northwoods? Keep up the great work, I LOVE this site!
Pelosi & her men are having been having a presser, it’s on CSPAN1
Adie @ 18
We are NOT cranky, damnit! We’re PLANNING to focus our energy.
Browncoat @ 21
Welcome out of the woods, Browncoat!
Scarecrow @ 23
I’m cranky…
Adie “The pups are cranky & runnin’ all over the dang place.”
Speaking as one of many ‘pups’ here, I am getting so upset I hope I don’t pee the virtual carpet.
Peterr at 11 — While that could be interesting, Valerie would kick my ass. *g*
Thanks Mutant Poodle! :)
Tricks? I am going to try and not discuss the front runners for the Democratic nomination for president for the rest of the day. Subject to change at every moment.
jayt at 12 — That’s the part of the report that hasn’t been previewed publicly as yet because it is still going through declassification. That’s apparently been the big hold-up. SIGH
Mutant Poodle @ 7
none of our reps voted against the rule – which was the important vote to block the funding.
Elliott @ 22
Been stuck on the spin cycle for quite some time now. Don’t look for reruns if you don’t want to get pissed off-er than most of us are now.
Good morning from L.A. Tricks are as good as might be expected on the morning after a wretched day of…well, you know.
An extremely interesting read for those who have the time this a.m.- transcript of a forum held @ University of D.C. on The Italian Letter. Participants included Larry Johnson, Pat Lang, Lawrence Wilkerson, & other intel/military experts. Here’s an excerpt from the q&a:
So, Pat Lang, first. What was your take on weapons of mass destruction?
Lang: Well, I had the advantage of being around in DIA in the first Gulf War, and for several years thereafter, before I left to go into business, and I knew, with great certainty, having participated, along with my friends and companions out at CIA, in the total destruction of the Iraq nuclear program, to the point that—I won’t say how we did that, but it was a very thorough job. And that went on for a couple years, and it wasn’t any doubt at all, that it was just wreckage, and the only thing left were a bunch of people, maybe 5,000 scientists, engineers, technicians, who were very smart folks who had nothing to work with. And we knew that was just gone.
Link to transcript from Larry’s blog:
Cheney’s Impeachable Crimes Highlighted @ UDC Forum
I’m not cranky. Just haven’t had enough coffee yet. Went to check out Wolcott. He always makes me smile.
Sigh. If only immunity worked as well as advertised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp-yRI_HJoM
selise @ 31
Oops – I’d forgotten that piece.
Good morning everyone. Sorry to bring up a sore, achey subject but I can’t figure out who the brave 14 were. I’ve got 7–Obama, Clinton, Boxer, Kennedy, Kucinich, Kerry, Feingold. Can someone tell me the other 7? Every news article just say the 14 including Clinton and Obama.
Lets play “Why was Unka Karl visiting the capital buiding this evening?”
Any guesses:
Senior White House aide Karl Rove and White House Counsel Fred Fielding were just spotted leaving a meeting room just off the Senate floor in the Capitol. But neither gave a reason for their trip to the Hill.
Minutes later, Iraq War “Czar” Lt. Gen Douglas Lute was also spotted leaving the Capitol.
When asked what brought him down Pennsylvania Avenue, Rove remained mum, simply smiling and greeting the staffers who quickly surrounded him.
“Something big must be happening” a startled Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) said as he watched Rove walk out the building.
Scarecrow @ 23
OKAYOKAYOKAY, damnit! runnin’ all over the dang place PLANNING to focus our energy!
Dodd for Prez!
Jane S. @ 37
From the last thread:
noen @ 156
Mutant Poodle @ 9
From their point of view they were successful because they were able to leverage opposition to the war to get other initiatives passed, like raising the min wage. They knew that there was zero chance of over riding Bush’s veto so they used that to their advantage. That is what the DCCC email is crowing about.
Normally I would say this was good. But I believe the situation called for the dems to stand their ground even in the face of Bush’s veto.
RE C-SPAN coverage of Pelosi et al: I thought Hoyer almost pushed Pelosi out of the way so he could get in his spin.
Pelosi made the point that the non-Iraq half of the bill had a lot of good stuff in it — Kartina relieve, minimum wage increase, vet benefits, etc.
So the “best face” is: we knew we couldn’t set a timeline for withdrawal, and we weren’t willing to be blamed for not funding the troops, so we extracted as much as we could and let the Republicans/Bush have their war money. It’s still their war, not our “surrender.”
Wow…. on our local news, Mexico has become the second most dangerous country for reporters after Iraq!
Think of that…… just a couple hours south of my home is a place that is THAT dangerous!
Ever notice how the DLC escapes GOP criticism?
Marie Roget @ 33
Good Morning, MR – is this just more of the same about WMD? It seems by now that it was clear to people who were actually looking that there wasn’t any there there; this is pretty explicit as to the details, but still…
Anyway, am shortly off through the marine layer to breakfast at Snug Harbor. Yum…
Yesterday I sent M.de Plume Jane’s post with the KO special comment in it. He hasn’t been paying too much attention to the whole thing and was surprised by the anger. (He gets his news from the local paper.) I wonder how much the rest of the country is like that? That before the vote we were just more of the angry left, but now perhaps it will spread so that even MSM sees it.
Hip, Hip, Al Hurra
Nobody in supervisory positions speaks arabic…
Izzis a great fuukin cunchry’r watt?
Peterr @ 40
Roll call
Peterr @ 40
Any word what the two [R] nays were about?
Maybe if People magazine puts Monica on the cover, millions will become more informed than they are now.
Colleen Rowley gave a commencement a couple weeks ago:
http://www.pulsetc.com/article.php?sid=3230
So, there!
drinksforall @ 38
Link/source, please.
anyone know Schumer’s spin on why he didn’t vote?
Other Pat @ 50
Please, God, no. No more sweet little Republican poster girls.
“We are NOT cranky, damnit! We’re PLANNING to focus our energy.”
Yep.
As pissed as I am, I definitely feel energized.
katymine at 43 — It’s all of their cheap spices and woven rugs and strings of ceramic peppers in those little border town tourist trap shopping extravaganza areas. I knew they were up to something last time we were down Yuma way…
They are invading us with their cheap tourist goods. To the barricades.
/snark
Investigation Of Goodling’s Partisan Hiring Expands, May Net Gonzales
Good Morning Christy and FIredogs,
found this in my insomnia induced googling -
a Kos diarist telling us all about yesterday – BACK IN APRIL !!!!
The Great Orange Satan
Welcome Browncoat !
someone mentioned Palast – can’t find now, but there was a diary @ Kos this am – he is now WORKING WITH CONYERS
I am listening to Nancy and I dont get it. Shes politely bashing Bush and making it more clear that we should have brought them home.
Professor Foland @ 6
my epu’ed response:
don’t know, but here’s my guess…. it was all kabuki to convince the base that they had “done everything they could” to stand up to bush.
needless to say – we aren’t convinced.
Cheney, Rove and Bush must be laughing themselves silly this morning.
Peterr @ 52
Sorry! I should know better.
http://www.rawstory.com/showar…..pitol.html
Peterr @ 52
Rove, Fielding pay mysterious visit to Capitol
Elliott @ 22
I just turned over to see Rahm starting to talk about how “just a week ago a number of repbulicans went down to the WH…” and turned it back off. TOTALLY F*CKIN’ CLUELESS & USELESS PIECE OF WORM DUNG!!!
katymine @ 43
Mexico’s in incredible turmoil.
Fascism is on the rise, especially in the south. Oaxaca is basically under martial law as the Govt gunsels try to break the back of an opposition movement that includes labor, teachers, and other pro-freedom sectors.
There have been hundreds of ‘unofficial’ killings, including on USer free-lance newsie who happened in the wrong place at the right time…they shot him deader that a bug…
mexico is almost as divided as Iraq…
.
Great speach by Byrd. Too bad it was to an empty chamber.
Gotta go. Cranky AND energized…cranky AND energized.
OK, I’m good.
Maybe everytime a soldier is killed in Iraq we should let our Reps know it is their fault and responsibility. Maybe let them know the names of the kids they have killed.
EPU’d from last thread
So, Nancy how do you justify the dead kids for the next months.
OT – does anyone know about the Wall along the Mexican Border? I thought it was just talk, but bids are being taken for it right now.
Blank Kludge @ 51
It’s hard not to like her, isn’t it
Peterr, et. al.
Thanks. I am more depressed. Jim Webb is my senator and I thought he probably voted for the capitulation bill but I was hoping…
snowbird at 59 — The bottom line is that the Dem caucus was backdoor betrayed by the Blue Dog caucus. They didn’t have the votes, they knew it, and they dug the best out of the vote that they could under the circumstances once they belatedly realized this. Unfortunately, they have handled the PR badly and the whole thing was a muddle with no real Plan B or Plan C. Thus, the cranky. Does that help?
Muzzy @ 55
Hey! Cranky’s purty good spin to keep the pugs distracted while we steal the turkey offn’ the kitchen table…. sh-h-h
fyi – forced myself to watch opening of Today show this morning to see what non blogging America was hearing -
“Democrats give in to Bush”
“Huge Victory for Bush”
“Deeply Divided Dems”
heckuva . . .
Christy Hardin Smith @ 29
jayt at 12 — That’s the part of the report that hasn’t been previewed publicly as yet because it is still going through declassification. That’s apparently been the big hold-up. SIGH
So, there remains the possibility that the admin just made up intelligence, told the public pre-war lies based upon that in order to sell this miserable war, classified the manufactured “intelligence”, and now refuse to de-classify it?
On some level, ya gotta admit – these fuckers are good at what they do.
But I don’t like hanging around on that level.
And Rahm can’t wait to get his face in front of the cameras.
He restates Pelosi argument that we need to “refocus” the mission on al Qaeda and not on the Iraq civil war. But the al Qaeda threat is in Iraq.
What this means is that Bush has successfully reoriented the discussion to focus on al Qaeda and convinced the Dems that that threat is in Iraq. Therefore, we have to stay in Iraq to fight al Qaeda — which is exactly what Bush is saying. The rest is posturing over details.
Mutant Poodle @ 45
Good morning, MP. IMO not just “more of the same.” Another excerpt from No Quarter write up:
“On May 7, a group of leading U.S. intelligence and military veterans joined investigative authors Peter Eisner and Knut Royce in a forum at the University of the District of Columbia (UDC), that provided, among many revelations, dramatic new evidence as to why Vice President Dick Cheney should be impeached for “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Originally convened as a book-signing forum for Eisner and Royce’s new book, The Italian Letter: How the Bush Administration Used a Fake Letter To Build the Case for War in Iraq (see review), an invaluable documentary account of the Bush Administration lies that led the country to war against Iraq, the authors decided to open the event to a panel of leading retired intelligence officers, to comment on the just-released memoirs of retired CIA Director George Tenet.”
Marine layer to stick around a bit, high of 66 later, as I understand :)
wgg: tokin liberal @ 65
Mexico to boost tapping of phones and e-mail with U.S. aid
Calderon is seeking to expand monitoring of drug gangs; Washington also may have access to the data.
You know things are out of control when your in Mexico buying souvenirs that are made in China.
Selise,
Even McGovern failed to vote against the rule?
Any explanation?
Oops, I posted a mini-rant at the bottom of the wrong thread. But here it is:
Jack Murtha has a post over at Huffington Post citing that this vote is ‘progress.’ I cannot post there, so will vent here.
No, Rep. Murtha, it is not progress. And every person who dies or is maimed from this date, will be on your collective consciences. No, sir, I am no longer buying the spin you are so vigorously spinning. Not. This. Time.
Zee @ 8
We’re stuck with her for a while longer unfortunately. No primary challenge for her in ‘08. I’ve gotten tired of writing her and getting form responses with no substance. And then her staff fills my inbox with happy talk “updates”.
cbl @ 58
Here is Greg Palast talking on 10 Zen Monkeys
The Future of America Has Been Stolen
Greg Palast has a weekly segment on the radio show Action Point on Nova M Radio http://www.aaphx.com. Greg has an appointment with Conyers this week to deliver ALL 500 of the emails from Rove he received when Rove et al sent them to the wrong email addie.
Palast states he has the goods!
OT CNN – LAX air traffic control down due to computer glitch.
dakine01 @ 64
when I saw him, I was wishing I could just sock him
Oklahoma kiddo @ 79
u noticed…
always appreciate yer zingers OK.
Hope y’r doin’ well…. albeit angry like the rest of us. Directed anger’s good. Let’s go!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 72
It does help but when will the “right thing” trump politics?
Never, I guess
Professor Foland @ 6
I was thinking last night how even without changing the vote, this could have been better if they had followed Jane’s demand that they at least not lie to us and claim it’s a victory.
If they had laid the groundwork by supporting Murtha’s “short leash” and then had this as a compromise “medium leash” to get the blue dog votes, it would have been more palatable. Talk about how by bundling things like the minimum wage into this bill that Shrub couldn’t avoid signing, you’ve saved the political capital and arm-twisting that would have been needed for veto-overrides on those matters, and have them to use on further Iraq votes. And point out that those further votes provide more opportunities, but admit that you fell short on this one and you’re falling back on them, rather than trying to claim that the fact they exist is some kind of victory.
Of course I’d rather they had been vocal the past several weeks and said “Mr. President, we’ve presented twenty different things we’re willing to compromise on. Tell us what you’re to compromise on, and we’ll negotiate. If the answer is ‘nothing’, then your stubbornness is the only thing that’s blocking this funding. But if they’d portrayed the bill the way I described, I might just be unhappy rather than furious.
katymine @ 84
I certainly hope so. This is getting way too out of hand. We need to end the nightmare now. Emptywheel’s piece on the rogue OVP is frightening. The coup may me close at hand.
This is funny..
Osama bin Laden is a really good hider….from the decider.
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gm…..k_lou.html
“You know things are out of control when your in Mexico buying souvenirs that are made in China.”
hecho en China
snowbird42 @ 59
and she could have. what a shame.
Gnome de Plume @ 90
go Palast. I know you have come to Ohio quite a few times….
Somewhat OT:
This is the #1 googled post on “Memorial Day Anti-War Protests
just in case ya might GAF…
.
Frank Probst @ 35
Subpoenal gland.
Bwa-hahahaha! Thanks, Frank, think that was the first real belly laugh I’ve had in a while.
jim oconnor @ 80
that’s correct – and he’s on the rules committee, so he may have voted for it in committee too (i don’t know yet).
i’m going to call his office now and ask for an explanation.
Scarecrow -
amidst my anger – forgot to post this in response to your request for a smile -
bet I’ve seen it (11 sec) a hundred times, and always makes me laugh
Rahm’s kitteh
Muzzy @ 92
that has to be one of the signs of the apocalypse
What if Rove’s/Fielding’s meeting was a planning session on timing the announcement of an Iran military movement to overshadow release of 500 Rove emails?
GrandmaJ @ 26
Beyond upset – I just chewed the banister and am targeting the shoes!
snowbird at 88 — Well, that one I don’t have an answer to, unfortunately. SIGH
Any word what the two [R] nays were about?
possibly the raise of the minimum wage?
or sending money to that den of sin New Orleans?
GrandmaJ @ 81
GJ – hope you dont mind, but I posted it for you.
Gnome de Plume @ 90
From 10 Zen Monkeys
And later
Something is in the works.
dakine01 @ 64
Should’a heeded my warning @ 32. ;-(
Somebody please google Operation Northwoods- it literally made my blood run cold. Does anyone else feel this way? I mean….. wow.
Thank you noen. YMMD – You’ve made my day.
I propose a pat on the back for Dodd, Leahy, Feingold, Kennedy and all those who voted against the supplemental.
wgg: tokin liberal @ 65
Yeah, my brother was in Oaxaca last summer. There were strikers in the streets every day, and the deeply corrupt governor was keeping the police in their barracks, because there would have been riots if they’d been on the streets.
Frank at 35 — I am SO using that today. Thanks heaps!
I find it reassuring that Democrats voted unanimously for the rule. Otherwise, what: they’re all in on the fix?
One of my low-information-voter commuting types was saying this morning that ‘GW really wants to bring our brave boys and girls home’.
(I was having a hard time not crossing the aisle and stuffing his backback into his mouth.)
He doesn’t seem to recognize that if ‘GW’ hadn’t started the f*cking war and turned it into an occupation, they wouldn’t be there now. ‘Teh stoopid, it burns.’
Seems Russ Feingold also is offering “Help Russ End the War” Widgets.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 61
I have a strong feeling they aren’t laughing behind the scenes. Considering where we are after 5 months of Congressional investigations, a lot can happen in the next 4. Rove could be skewered. Impeachment can happen. While defunding the war on Iraq could have occurred yesterday, 4 months from now, with a destroyed White House, Congress could do more faster to end the war than the originally passed ‘08 withdrawal date called for.
hammer time
.
mui @ 109
Do we know which ones voted against it before it got 50 votes? (I know Dodd did.) Clinton and Obama waited until after it safely passed.
OT–
Sid has a good one on Wolfowitz in Salon today. A snippet:
Gnome de Plume @ 108
Palast is talking with Conyers and Iglesias and they apparently have something planned. The full article is here.
The Future of America Has Been Stolen
10 zen monkeys is a site that I heard about through boingboing.
Here is the link to the audio for Plast interview
http://actionpointonline.com/archives.html
Here is the link to the second hour, his interviews are at the last 15 minutes of the hour.
mp3 link here
P J Evans @ 113
What gets me is the “brave boys and girls home” phrase sounds so canned. It could have come from a million Chimpy speeches. To parrot chimpy is doubly stoopid.
We Gave Them Our Hearts, They Gave Him A Blank Check
I love this line from David Sirota
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..49308.html
Scarecrow @ 42
A Slim-Majority Compromise.
There must be an accounting of the Katrina funds, vet funds and the minimum wage increase to verify that those dollars are appropriated as to the law.
If oversight on the appropriations doesn’t happen, the Ds will definitely regret it in ‘08.
Redshift @ 116
I am pretty sure Dodd was against waay before that. I won’t vouch for Clinton and Obama because they have always been pretty craven.
Blank Kludge @ 7:34 -
Thankee for the Rowley linky…..haven’t read it all yet but somebody made a good choice of comm. speaker.
mui @ 120
Mass media does indeed mold and shape opinion. It is a form of mass control and the media, and Rove, know full well that what they are doing is manipulating opinion outside of any “facts”. We policy wonks are the exception and not the rule.
Thanks for the New Orleans update. I’ve been wondering about that.
o boy o boy o boy
Boehner’s gonna cry again.
noen @ 118
I’ve read about him having those e-mails. The latest was at some site where a winged monkey really came down on him for his crazy “conspiracy theories.” It’s like waiting through a whole season of 24, commercials and all (I am guessing – I don’t watch it) rather than having the boxed CD set after the event is over and the story is able to be told.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 61
[expletive deleted] The Dems incremental strategy is playing directly into the Goopers run out the clock strategy. They don’t seem to get that letting them leave power with all the bad precedents they’ve set intact is a BAD idea.
How about this gem from Sid:
Although I am still very pissed off that the bill had no teeth, there was an inclusion in it that is very important to the Pacific Northwest logging communities that have been economically ravaged that replaces lost revenue.
Some counties rely very heavily on this money to survive.
I still want to see Bush get b*tch slapped with a more restrictive bill in the future though.
noen @ 83
Noen, thanks!
“The Future of America” is a MUST READ.
XACKLY WTF is going on!
Adie @ 87
zingers while burning fuel. Most of us are caught in this vicious cycle of burning fuel that others are dying for.
Anyone who believes there really is a difference between coke and pepsi, ford and chevy, mcdonalds and burger king, GOP and DEM…
is a willing collaborator in propaganda…
.
“I say that our houses and cities are open for them and that for Iraqis to kill Sunnis and Christians is a sin. What the Nawasib(Shiite radicals) are doing to compel the Christians to embrace Islam is despicable.”
Al Sadr has returned to public life in Iraq.
-GSD
selise @ 97
just got off the phone with very nice (and sympathetic*) person in mcgovern’s office… left all my contact info and i am supposed to be called soon by the aide on house rules to answer all my questions… they know an LTE is being written today. will let you know what i hear back (if anything).
* note – i explained, in detail, how it looked to me that the way the rule was constructed was to permit funding of the iraq occupation supplemental while allowing reps to say they voted against it… and how (combined with the dccc spin) i thought that our congress was not being straight with us. loosing is one thing, not being honest about it just makes it worse.
My last installment from Sid:
The rest, as they say, is history: the dustbin of history.
Now this is important, people, so listen up
The public has voted somewhere that Guiliani and Obama are the two candidates most people would want to spend a picnic with this weekend. you heard it here first.
GSD @ 135
Someone needs to point Newt in the right direction. There is the religious intolerance he is looking for. Get your pudgy ass to Iraq, white boy!
Gnome de Plume @ 128
if this isn’t a smoking gun, what IS?!
-daring to hope-
If caging is the issue and the way they will steal the elections (or have done) then our responsibility is to get “caging” into everyone vocabulary!
It was inevitable, as far back as last November: The Dims would be saddled with Iraq.
They’re now trapped into another “I voted against it before i voted for it” (or vice versa) meme.
more and more i am becoming convinced that the Pukes sandbagged the last ‘election’ in order to FORCE the DIMS into compromising positions…
nobody can vote “against the troops.” as soon as they are committed, they ‘must’ be supported, eternally…
/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
Hah, when I was deliveriing low-level nuke packages to Stanford campus in Cali I holstered a SW long barrel. Shoulda seen the look on the students faces.
Kathleen @ 133
i’m with ya. Family of biologists here, and we’ve been worried sick since the 60’s…
live pretty green at home, but that’s not good enuf…
“Most of us are caught in this vicious cycle of burning fuel that others are dying for.”
Ah… the nub of the matter. U.S. troops are ‘leaving this world’ for the greater good. Oil.
gotta go – thank y’all for bein’ here – keeping me sane
keep an eye out on Moveon today y’all !
mad, mad progressive love to all
cbl @ 146
if y’re still sane, congrats!
i gave up on that some time ago…
cbl @ 146
hmmm
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
there were three reasons the US invaded Iraq in the first place (in no particular order):
1) to re-establish the bases they were forced by in Laden to abandon in Saudi.
2) to impose a USer-friendly distribution system on Iraq’s incredibly CHEAP (less than $2/bbl to extract) oil depositis.
3) to remove/reduce a perceived threat to Israel.
mission accomplished.
Greens unite. Gore is the one. ;0)
Gnome de Plume @ 128
I was hoping that someone was demanding any communications between Rove and Secretary of the State Blackwell during the 2004 Presidential Selection. Conyers and Palast came to Ohio quite a few times just after that selection.
Anyone see the WSJ editorial page today? Kim Strassel tries to say that nothing untoward happened in the prosecutor purge. What a tool she is.
Elliott @ 138
Oh sweet, who wouldn’t want to spend a picnic sitting between one who hems and haws and prevaricates and has a secret penchant for nukes, and one who rails against modern art, ferrets, Cuba and looks straight in your eyes with a spooky look telling you where you to go nuke a ferret. Of course, Obama is less scary. But still.
The Bush and Cheney families are dependents. Dependent on oil revenues.
If I was at a pic-nic with Giuliani I would spend the entire time pelting him with hotdogs, burgers and wilted lettuce.
-GSD
mui @ 153
I’m looking for some fire ants to show up at the picnic
GSD @ 155
would you squirt some mustard up his nose for me?
The key to the caging issues is that not only is that act illegal, there’s an explicit restraining order placed on the Republican party for having done this previously.
Thom Hartman was talking about it yesterday, sometime in the past (? date)the RNC was placed under a restraining order to stop caging.
Elliott @ 138
This IS important. Remember, our current idiot-in-chief is the one voted most wanted to have a beer with, or some such horrible mangle of the English language.
Elliott @ 138
There are a lot of politicians with whom I am sure I could have a polite conversation. That is not what they are elected for.
Kathleen,
I just want to apologize for calling you a troll the other day. The link to worldnetdaily made me leap before I looked.
1,526 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
Good mornin’ sister…I am soooo happy you have the chops with a handgun but I am so sad that you need it (especially with a child in the house). You are an important resource in the continuin’ effort to grow our democracy out of this fascist pile of horseshit in which we find ourselves and we can’t afford ta lose yer very flexible, fecund mind.
SOOO…would you have a sit down with the senior cadre there at FDL HQ (Pach, Janie, Marcy et al) and discuss usin’ Pach’s netroots structure to grow a coalition for direct action…coordinatin with MoveOn and some a the other heavy hitter blogs. A “Rubber Stamp” project to all the Democrats who voted for the surrender bill yesterday would be a great start. If FDL could be a player in creatin’ a vehicle for bringin’ the heat this summer and providing an PA system for the people’s voice on the war…well then, that would be as great an act of citizenship as the Committees of Correspondence .
Thanx for FDL…you’ve kept a lot of us sane (and probably outta jail) these last few years, now on ta changin the world.
Give it some thought, sister a lot of us would hit the trenches if you call.
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
Helpless Dancer @ 161
This is what I love about the Lake. {{{you both}}}
Scarecrow @ 76
That is my biggest fear — The Dems are letting Bush define and frame the quagmire once again!
dakine01 @ 64
At least with worm dung you can fertilize your tomato plants.
GSD @ 155
Waste of good ‘dogs & burgers. Make that *rotten* lettuce.
Good (but scary) article in Time by Robert Baer on the (lack of) intelligence on Iraq and Iran:
More Bad Intelligence on Iran and Iraq
TribeScribe @ 132
From the link above:
If this is true, it’s explosive.
a most humble request: could you please ban LibertyLee? he sure does come across as a major troll and I, for one, prefer reasoned discourse at the lake to the hurly burly of all those other websites like Huff. I leave comments elsewhere, but don’t bother to read them any more. I just can’t take the mindless negativity (and worse) from trogs and trolls. yours eternally. TF
Waccamaw @ 166
I would eat a couple of hot dogs overladen with onions, invade his personal space and give him the old what for.
My message to the Republicans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0MQxudKT4U
short of banning, could the tech folks come up with a way to mute folks like that? gabbly has such a neat feature to mute trolls. someone came up with the great way to limit zigs. maybe they can build a mute button. just wonderin.
Biodun @ 168
And further down:
Oh gawd, McConnell is talking about “draining swamps” over there in the desert.
I know a swamp that needs to be drained and it’s right here in the good ol’ USA.
when will bradblog get more wide attention? jaw dropping posts daily like this one on monica’s “caging”:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4594#more-4594
any legal eagles care to comment?
Christy has a new thread upstairs…
travy at 175 — We’ve been talking about that sort of thing in the comments the last couple of days. And, as no one but Greg has read the e-mails in question as yet, it’s tough to talk about it. As for caging, Brad is really the voter fraud go to guy — but I haven’t had a chance to read the article as yet between commenting, writing articles here and trying to get my dishwasher loaded. Once I read it though, if I have anything to add, I’ll certainly talk about it here — but I don’t tend to just randomly comment on things that I haven’t independently researched because, frankly, I think fact checking and skepticism are sorely underused these days. But maybe that’s just me…
Elliott @ 22
Imagining, grim, grey faces.
TiredFed @ 172
I just go into my private “ignore” mode with folks like LL. I sometimes miss and start to read what I consider to be gibberish but as soon as I realize who it is, I go into Emily Latella mode…
1,526 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen oklahoma kiddo and the Firepup Patriots:
Good mornin’ brother kiddo, that video of Duane Eddy is treeeemendous…hey Firepups, do look at the kiddo’s last link.
Keep the heat on out there in the God forsaken high desert of the soul in Oklahoma…remember, we gotta work the Democrats and don’t be afraid ta vote against a few of ‘em. The bastards’ll get the message before the next election though if folks like you keep the heat on.
KEEP THE FAITH BUT DO THE WORK!!
Fresh thread, up and running for everyone. With a huge H/T to Frank Probst.
noen @ 118
omg. please let it be true. in a fit of wishful thinking yestidie, i wondered if the dems caved in order to clear the decks….
omg…
& in whut little i could stand to watch of jr’s presser yestidie, he was actin’ really weird, w-a-y beyond his brand a’ “normalcy”… omg…
dang, it’s hard to type w/ crossed fingers! *g*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 154
The new “axis of oil”
http://www.newamerica.net/publ…..xis_of_oil
Anyone having trouble with comments lining up here @FDL?
Adie @ 182
Palast is hinting in this interview that he and Conyers have been talking and it would seem like they have something planned. Yeah, that would be nice. Maybe Monica has a great big surprise in store for her soon. One can only hope.
Elliott @ 127
Beehoooo, hooo, hooo! The Democrats gave us everything we asked for and more! Booo, hoooo! Mama, mamaaaaaa!!! Waaaahhhhh!!
(LOVE the Republican macho sh#t)
dakine01 @ 179
I like that idea. much like when I read a marvelous pun, and then look back and see it was punaise (of course). but maybe it’s just me (the Va. Tech thing is still hanging over me) or a sign of the times, but I can’t just seem to say, oy, I shoulda known. just reading his ridiculous and amazingly ignorant statements (how could be possibly have gotten through law school?) is hard to take.
TiredFed @ 187
Kool-aid drinking seems to cause a disconnect in the reasoning abilities and the abilities to think clearly and perceive all facts and give them the proper weighting. Leads to promulgation of ludicrous statements, half-truths and discredited straw person arguments that are easily refuted by those abstaining from the kool-aid or that have received the antidote.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 177
ahh, shoulda caught this. was too busy spitting in disgust… :^)
Well… Civil Rights Attorney Kennedy HAS read the emails in question. He went on the record as saying that the administration should go to jail for what is contained in the emails.
dakine01 @ 188
maholo
Sorry, but this was one case where an extra comma after “am” could have really come in handy.
(Spot the anal-retentive!)