[photo: AP/Toby Talbot]
Rudy Giuliani may trumpet himself as the White Knight who will save America from the Evil Brown Ones, and he may refer to his third wife's daughter as "ours", but he just can’t change history. And now with the Bernie Kerik's looming indictment for tax evasion and charges of conspiracy for his eavesdropping for Jeanine Pirro, Rudy Giuliani is trying desperately to separate himself from his erstwhile police commissioner.
After failing to convince New Yorkers that they wanted him to continue on after his term as Mayor had expired, Rudy Giuliani went into business with his good buddy, Bernie Kerik, by hiring him on as a consultant with Giuliani Partners, a "security" company incorporated to capitalize on the events of 9/11. Bullet-headed Bernie, Giuliani’s lieutenant, the man whose name graced the prison complex in lower Manhattan until Mayor Bloomberg thought it was a tad inappropriate that a man who pled guilty to ethics violations should be honored thusly and had the plaque removed. (Frankly, I enjoy the irony.)
Rudy and Bernie (or, as blogger res ipsa loquitur likes to call them, “Bada” and “Bing”) are the Bobbsey Twins of Self-Aggrandizement. I’ve documented in haphazard fashion Rudy’s delusional beliefs about his mad mayoral and counter-terrorism skillz and his ability to clamp down on his bowels in the face of some pretty scary shit, but what about Bernie’s? Still riding high on the glory of the crumbling buildings, Bernie finagled a job as the Interim Minister of the Interior for Paul Bremer and the Provisional Authority in Baghdad. He lasted 3 months, most of which was spent going on raids with mercenaries instead of building the foundation for an Iraqi police force. Then, when the Bush Administration decided that it needed a leader for its Homeland Security Administration, they propagated the trope of “America’s Mayor” and turned to Rudy for advice. Rudy insisted they appoint Bernie Kerik without even vetting him. Bush put forward Kerik’s nomination, and I think we all remember how well THAT turned out. He didn't even make it past the illegal nanny question.
The Achilles heel that plagues George Bush also plagues Rudy and Bernie – the misguided belief that their very existence demands unwavering and neverending loyalty by those whom they use and discard. Enter publishing impresario and Kerik’s former girlfriend, Judith Regan, his paramour with whom he shacked up in an apartment overlooking the smoldering ruins (an apartment that was intended, by the way, for relief workers desperately needing respite from their grueling jobs). Well, Rudy and Bernie treated her as background noise when they would pow-wow on business deals (shady or otherwise), blithely assuming that she wasn’t really listening in and that, hell, she wouldn’t say anything anyway. What Rudy didn’t count on was the very real power of a woman scorned. In the latest issue of The New Republic, Judith Regan threatened to spill some delectable beans and bring Giuliani’s campaign down if it makes any kind of substantive progress on the national scale.
It’s hard NOT to make the comparison to “The Sopranos” without being accused of anti-Italian sentiment, but these people create remarkably similar dramas. So the question I’m posing today is this: If these are the types of people Rudy Giuliani keeps close to him, what could we possibly expect from his administration?



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Zed
rats !
Whoa, sorry. Didn’t mean to step on Stirling’s post.
Congrats Mauimom!
Nice zed Mauimom. My youngest graduates from King K a week from today !
Evening, Watertiger. To answer your question – even worse.
Rudy and Bernie, hmm, could be a movie there somewhere, like a Good Fellows.
Giuliani has connections to organized crime. Lets look at his business dealings.
To answer your question Watertiger, I don’t think he has a prayer. Zombies would vote for Smilin’ Mitt before skeletor.
Gangs of New York, AZ Matt.
Can you imagine a President Giuliani?
C’mon watertiger, being a mobbed-up fascist thug is a PLUS with the knuckle-dragging Republican primary voter.
Surely you must know this :)
Suzanne @ 10
There is actually a book out on the Gang of New York for the pre-Civil War era. Maybe it is time to update.
salut, Tigre de l’Eau!
Remember Geraldine Ferraro and her husband’s mob rented warehouse? And all the attention she got from the media on this. Where’s the coverage of Rudy’s mob connections?
PUNAISE!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
NO!
Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, Patrick Dorismond
ooooh, all caps!
O/T
Was I asleep when this was announced?
New unreleased e-mails from top administration officials show that the idea of firing all 93 U.S. attorneys was raised by White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove in early January 2005
(MOD NOTE: Edited to reduce size of link)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
I still have a hard time imagining Bushhead as prez.
ok kiddo at 15
Quote This Commen
i just remember her son’s problems being displayed for the world. i was young then, that’s what i remember.
Ron Paul offers reading list to Rudy
nite all, better to fight on the morrow well rested.
((((thanks fdl))))
Dover Bitch @ 22
I think the only thing Rudy reads are his press clippings telling him how wonderful he is.
nite, dmac…take care…
dakine01 @ 24
Well, Judi Nathan sitting in his lap probably helps.
He reads box scores.
I liked this part:
Schummer on Cspan talking about Senate vote of no confidence on Gonzalez
What, no ferret picture?
FYI:
Tomorrow Arianna will be interviewing Gore. Arianna is asking for questions to submit to Gore.
Media is negative toward Schummer’s comments. Reporter suggests it’s just political football. The media is the problem
watertiger @ 26
Showing my vestigial sexism, I realized Rudy was nuckin’ futz when he dumped Donna Hanover for Judi Nathan.
NAYs —14
Boxer (D-CA)
Burr (R-NC)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Dodd (D-CT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Obama (D-IL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
I know this doesn’t belong here, but Christy, if your out there, no one else is covering this: http://blog.nola.com/times-pic…..oad_h.html
Please, Please, Please – I live in New Orleans, and this information has to get more attention. A great ,free thinking city, full of diverse people and different cultures is dying – It’s no accident.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
Easily only ONE important question for Al Gore; Will you PLEASE run for the Presidency and relieve us of our great national nightmare?
dakine01 @ 35
Good point. This might be the the time to swamp Gore with urgent pleas to run. Framed as a question of course.
Was the House vote a roll call? If so, where can I find it? – I just looked at the US House home page and didn’t see any navigational help there.
Link that has vote in Senate, here
Schumer did not vote. Interesting. Or, intersting, as son of my best friend used to say.
Ed*ard Teller @ 37
warvote
katrina etc vote
ET- TSF posted links earlier. I will try to find them.
snap!
How to say this…but is there, deep in the collective unconscious of certain Italian men, a belief that they are the eighth wonder of the world. Additionally, Rudy seems on speed half the time, not that I watch him all that much???
Also, Donald Trump, who is of course the eighth wonder of the world, said that, on TeeVee, that only an imbecile can support the Iraq war. Lol.
I like Gore.
The House votes are here:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/index.asp
The pertinent ones are 418, 424, and 425.
The C-Span presser with Schumer, Feinstein & Sheldon Whitehouse was a beauty. Replay @ 3:47 am eastern.
boxer, I was hoping to find someone who lives in NOLA. I want to visit there this year. Would that be a good idea or no?
Arianna is now accepting questions for Gore tomorrow. I have already submitted mine. Won’t you please do the same? It’s a bit slow over there. Be patient. ;0)
TJ @ 19
What’s shocking is that Abu “has no recollection” of discussions regarding replacing USAs while he was WH council.
Loo Hoo. @ 47
Probably released right when our “hero the sparrow” bombed W.
Thanks, Teddy, for the vote link.
Are the new “unreleased e-mails” being touted by ABC part of the Palast packet?
Ed*ard Teller @ 49
ABC mentioned Palast’s name? No way!
If you like Al Gore and would like this man to be president, please let him know by submitting a question to him for tomorow via Arianna at Huffpo.
How many Italian men do you actually know that fit this description?
With all the reasons that I have heard for Americans not to vote for Ghouliani, I say…”BRING HIM ON!”
TeddySanFran @ 39
Issa-yes on war, no on helping Americans. That was simple.
My belief is that if Gore decides to run he will knock Hillary and Obama out of the ball park. And will soundly beat the Republicans.
Swopa @ 29
Heh. I liked the ghoulish gaping maw.
Capt. Kilmore’s Whale Removal – Fiore cartoon
Anybody have a theory as to why the White House e-mails on the US Attorney issue continue to come out in small batches over weeks/months?
Seems to me they would either (a) stonewall, period, as they have on so many other requests, or else (b) get all the nasties out and over with, in a single Friday news dump.
Why the “slow bleed”? Do they hope we’ll forget the connections, in between batches?
CD @ 58
So that the big enchilada at the end of the trail doesn’t seem like any big deal in comparison to the stuff that dribbles out.
CD @ 58
Takes time for all that redacting. Can’t have just anyone doing it.
I find Obama to be a disappointment. Not just today but often. He doesn’t seem to be a leader. Maybe it will come with age and experience but he’s not there yet. Think of the ‘is being gay immoral?’ question. Both he and Hillary punted. Then Edwards said a straightforward “no” and they both jumped on the bandwagon. He doesn’t have the confidence to be the first to say/do something.
Gonzales;”has no recollection of any plan or discussion to replace U.S. attorneys while he was still White House counsel… …he was preparing for his attorney general confirmation hearing and was focused on that.” Of course Abu, err, soon-to-be, AGAG, was in cahoots with Turd Blossom , the M.O. fits snugly within their Pogrom!!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
edited for my personal dumbness in not reading correctly. Never mind.
OKK, Thank you for the information about the Gore interview at Huffington Post. I wonder if FDL can arrange a similar event? Gore and the country would benefit.
Yours in support of Gore, dwwenz
CD @ 58
They’re going through them with a fine tooth comb and since their numbers are dwindling daily, that takes time.
TexBetsy @ 59
***
Ahhh. At the risk of mixing metaphors, any guess as to whose face will be on that big enchilada at the end of the trail? Are its initials KR, GWB, or AG?
solai @ 52
Oh, I knew one very well, and he had that trait, and it was based on testosterone more than anything real, like brain. But I am also European and hence know other examples too. They do make fun of this in Italy, you know. Did not mean to offend anyone.
so now we’ll more war profiteering – thank you dimocrats – bush has his money to continue the slaughter in iraq and slyly in iran(shhh – secretly)- ok now on to the slogging to try and bring some sanity – as was stated – organize organize organize……….
CD @ 66
The Three Amigos, err, Big Tamales??? ;)
AttorneyGate 2.0: Forget the popcorn. Bring a roll of Toilet Paper.
Solai #61,
I agree. I have yet to see/hear Clinton or Obama take a leadership position on anything controversial. Hence, my sustained support for Edwards, who seems to be the only major Dem candidate with that do-or-die attitude so desperately needed right now. Plus, anyone who scares the insurance lobby that badly has to have something going on.
In honor of the newly released e-mails I’m posting again the youtube that was on Americablog earlier today for your viewing pleasure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..ablog.com/
ENJOY
A snapshot of Rudy’s former BFF, the most corrupt senator
(and that’s saying a lot) in New York State history.
allan_in_upstate @ 73
Da Phonz! We tried so hard to beat him in ‘94 but we had three Dem candidates that were TOO good that year and they beat each other up in the primaries…
OK, I’ve got it. The perfect refutation for the asinine “Support the Troops” meme:
“Mr. President, are you saying that we’re fighting the war in Iraq primarily for the benefit of the troops themselves?”
Yes?
Not offended. But are you sure that you weren’t holding him to a different standard? Surely, he wasn’t the only self-absorbed man that you knew. But, in his case you attributed it to his ethnic background. In others, no consideration was given to ethnicity.
Let me see if I’m up to speed here. Last November, the people of the United States of America voted for a change. Today, both the House and the Senate voted for the same old thing.
Today’s big winner: Ralph Nader. I guess he was right: There really isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats.
VictorLaszlo @ 75
I like it. Get it to David Gregory.
solai @ 45
It would be a great idea! You need to see for yourself how we’ve been intentionally abandoned by this government, but more importantly, you need to see how far we’ve come inspite of it. The best things – the warm, diverse people, the music, the food,the history, and the feeling that your not in the U.S. anymore but instead are someplace where beauty outweighs utility, where the bottom line doesn’t always matter most, and where people truly love and know how to live for the sake of living, are here and thriving. We are different, so we suffer, but if you come, you will see the suffering is worth it. This place is magical.
solai @ 76
It is off topic in some ways. But re Rudy, he sure seems awfully full of himself.
allan_in_upstate @ 73
Oh, jesus. D’Amato.
solai @ 78
When Bush challenged Gregory about protecting David Gregory’s children, I was saddened for all the parents that lost their children for a senseless war.
JPL @ 82
Exactly. Bush doesn’t know a thing about raising children — even if he has two known spawn.
From TPM:
I guess they had their fingers in the wind long enough.
Mr Kerik in Iraq … if I remember correctly, the sections in Emerald City about his tenure suggested that not only did he only work with mercenaries, he only went out late at night, with the mercs … and in the morning there were dead bodies around Baghdad. This was before dead bodies in Baghdad were a daily occurrence … always struck me as phase one of the salvador option ….
AZ Matt @ 57
Right on! One miserable aspect, Fiore mentions is the US Navy’s sonar testing, it is wreaking havoc within our marine biomes! Residing here in the Isles, I’ve tracked the ebb and flow of the testing, the US Navy has been found liable in prior rulings, yet, continue with WH tomfoolery!!! The sonar is directly responsible for mass strandings throughout US and International waters, globally!!!
OT; CSPAN HENRY WAXMAN HEARING MENTAL HEALTH OF SOLDIERS
I commented on this earlier today, but nobody bit, so maybe I’m way wrong, but they ALL keeping repeating the mantra: We serve at the pleasure of the President. Hellooooo…they are trying to tell us…listen up.
Bush has obviously ordered Rove etal. to implement his “agenda”. Seems to me it is W “hisself” enabled by his minions. If Rove was really the brain, he’d be president. He is not. The whole idea that he is Bush’s brain and Bush is just a stunt. He is a con artist/actor/cheerleader.
Just because he ordered it, does not make it legal. There is an evil agenda here that is hiding behind the words “incompetence” and “puppet”. I do not believe that is so. That’s probably why it took a deliberate bird to shit on his jacket to let us know. :P JMHO.
Clinton and Obama … stood off camera during the vote, waited 18 minutes … once Obama voted, HRC was quick to follow along.
Interpret as you will.
Siun @ 89
Takin’ a stand!
and Watertiger … brilliant as always!
thank you
taking a stand … yeah, gotta show off all that leadership when you’re the front runners, eh?
mulligatawny @ 80
Aaahh, and because he is Italian, it must be due to that. Does Clinton seem ‘full of himself’. Does Romney? How about Bush?
I have thought from the start that Rudy will not win the nomination because he is Italian. And every time some reporter said he may be ‘too much a New Yorker’, I knew they meant Italian. I would never want Rudy to be pres. I think his ideas are dangerous and fascist. But, that is not the reason he won’t win. It is because he is Italian.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
Agreed. And the more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion he’s already running!
He’s getting all the positives of being in the race without any of the negatives, and when it becomes absolutely necessary money and infrastructure won’t be a problem.
Completely OT:
Listening to Bush’s presser saying that the reporters children are endangered by the terrerrerrrists, I thought, this man is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. He is desperate.
watertiger @ 81
There’s a famous shot of them tooling around NYC in a car
(going to a drug bust?), but I can’t find it online.
samia @ 95
He wants you to think that. He is calculating.
lolo @ 87
Yes! When, lolo?
Buck Bush
solai @ 93
Are Americans prejudiced against Italians? I thought that was over about 100 years ago.
Loo Hoo. @ 98
Looks like right now – replay from earlier today
allan_in_upstate @ 96
Oooh, the Village People shot. I put it up a while ago at my place; let me see if I can find it.
What the hell is going on?????????
http://www.rawstory.com/showar…..rypt/0507/
Rove_Fielding_pay_mysterious_visit_to_Capitol.html
[Mod Note; try this embedded link.]
LS @ 88
Shrub is Turd Blossom’s marionette, period!!! As much as Shrub cannot afford to lose AGAG, I feel Turd Blossom’s demise would be a more profound and vital loss to this Maladministration!!! Especially, with Deadeye trying to pull an end-around!!!
Bluetoe @ 28
Schummer on Cspan talking about Senate vote of no confidence on Gonzalez
Goddamn. Now the Dem’s are throwing out shiny objects to cover their sorry asses.
VictorLaszlo @ 75
The whole ’support the troops’ narrative is BS and is at the crux of Dubya’s ‘argument’. Dismantle that and it all falls apart. Chris Matthews, to his credit, ‘gets it’. The Dems for the most part don’t apparently. And again, the ‘troops’ don’t make policy
CTuttle @ 104
I’m beginning to think it is the other way around – he’s a tool and a buffer for the historically greater agenda. He’s just an “aide”.
Is that big rack of teeth across the top of Rudy’s mouth real? And is that the cause of his ridiculous lisp?
Siun @ 89
KO said they both waited until a majority had voted YES.
Which means they can’t count, or that their colleagues aren’t speaking to them. If 80 members of the Senate voted YES, wasn’t it easy to tell the vote would not be close? If they could count, or were being told how their colleagues would vote, they could take a “courageous” early position opposed.
lolo @ 87
((lolo)) I don’t know whether to thank you or curse you!!! As a vet, hearing a MSGT committing suicide in Walter Reed over PTSD nontreatment, it makes my blood boil!!! *g*
Do you remember the scene from ‘West Wing’ where the christo-fascist was talking to Toby and Josh? She was snarling about New Yorkers. Toby said ’she means Jews’. Josh, not having ever been a victim of ethnic prejudice didn’t get it. Toby, who had, knew immediately what she meant. That’s how I see this. Do you think any of the remarks reveal an underlying stereo-typical negative image of Italians? Or do you have to be Italian to recognize that?
Loo Hoo. @ 98
Daniel Zwerdling did an excellent report on the treatment of PTSD at Ft. Carson, CO on NPR’s All Things Considered this afternoon. Apparently, even after NPR investigated mistreatment of PTSD soldiers there earlier in the year, and the Fort’s command structure’s reaction to it, what they’ve come up with in response is mostly garbage and hooey.
LS @ 103
Haha!!
Cuz it’s gotta be something big if Arlen’s not involved!
STTP in Ohio @ 94
I’d concur entirely. There’s simply no need for him to begin so ridiculously early as this – even October would be over a year away from the poll that matters.
I was intrigued that Steve Jobs noted this in a recent Time interview, too, on his fellow board member:
LS@107, given the sheer incompetence displayed by this Maladministration, you can tell me with a straight face, that Shrub is that shrewd and calculating??? :O
TeddySanFran @ 113
Thanks Mods. We’re having some freaky deaky weather here, and I think it is causing all kinds of “fuckery” such as double “refresh comments” and double circling thingy’s …:)
CTuttle @ 115
Unfortunately, I have come to that conclusion, but that, of course, does not make it so. JMO
CTuttle @ 115
He has accomplished almost everything his masters desired for him to accomplish:
1. Wartorn Middle East
2. Permanent bases
3. Inflated oil prices
4. War profiteering
How has he not succeeded beyond their wildest expectations, and thrown in some domestic bonuses as well?
1. Major urban center destroyed
2. AfricanAmerican diaspora
3. Louisiana converted to a red state
OT–but, please, does anybody know the effect of Walton’s appointment to the FISA court? Will Walton sentence Libby? Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they are not out to get you…
Thanks Mods. We’re having some freaky deaky weather here, and I think it is causing all kinds of “fuckery” such as double “refresh comments” and double circling thingy’s …:)
fyi – that is usually a sign to clear your computer’s cache if a hard page refresh does not fix
TeddySanFran @ 118
He is THE master, why can we not accept that? The buffering has been so effective. Why is that really that hard to digest? Why must we fall for the KR is invincible bull? It’s Bush.
Kinda OT, but what a horrible day this has been. I just got home from work and couldn’t wait to be here with you guys.
I made my phone calls to Boxer and Feinstein this morning and this afternoon I called my right wing tool representative John Campbell’s Newport Beach office. I told the mini-tool manning the phones that I wanted to voice my opinion on the Iraq spending bill. When I said I knew how Campbell was going to vote but I wanted to give my opinion anyway the mini-tool said “you don’t know how he votes”. When I told him that I DID know, he started arguing with me. I kept saying, I don’t want to discuss it with you, I just want to give my opinion, he kept saying “you’re not listening to me”. After three or four rounds of this dance, I told him I was his constituent and it was his job to allow me to comment on issues in my district. If he wouldn’t allow me to make my comment, I’d call the DC office. He continued lecturing me, so I got his name, which is LOU by the way, and called DC. Jeez I was pissed off. Ended up, Campbell didn’t even vote. I guess I should have told mini-tool that I know how he votes when he bothers to vote…
Hearing that the bill passed brought me to tears. I just sat in my office and cried.
Also, the young soldier found in the river in Iraq is from Torrance, CA near where I live. Listening to the news about his death made me cry again.
I feel broken.
despairing @ 119
I don’t know. Waiting for Marcy to weigh in. But, the timing seems odd. Was it to get a different judge in there to lessen sentence?
TeddySanFran @ 118
Teddy, You’re preaching to the choir!!! Can I add to that second list? Two stolen elections, disenfranchised voters, largest wage disparity in the modern era,… ad nauseum!!! ;)
Neil Cavuto deserves media asshole of the week for this interview with Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) yesterday on FAUX news..
It’s pretty sad when only 14 senators vote against funding the war, after four years to see what a tragedy it is. That’s fewer than the 23 who voted against it in the first place. I’m telling you.
OT..but just noticed the Sen. Enzi (R)Wy voted no to continue the war. Is this o0f any significance? I haven’t lived in Wy for five years and have lost track of Wy politics.
It was Bush, off the top of his head, that insinuated David Gregory’s children were targets – not Rove.
Gregory, if he was a man, would have responded, Leave My Children Out of This, this question is about YOU. That is outrageous.
I’m not going to say anything more about the two front-runners for the rest of the evening, cause we are going to the Aunty’s place (three blocks from my place) for the night. My 99 year old FDR life long Demo auntie has no use for Hillary. So we don’t talk about that subject. But I know we’ll talk other politics. She says she tells me what I need to know. ;0)
Maybe this is why Bush seemed so cranky at the presser. He didn’t even have his smirk.
LS @ 121
Bush’s Colon.
Gregory should have asked if the President was referring to 15 years from now, when the children will be draft age?
LS @ 128
Gregory kind of did a Dukakis there with his lack of response. Remember the 1988 debate re: an attack on Kitty Dukakis? Of course, he’s only the media, not a presidential candidate. But I would have liked to see a slapdown.
solai,
About 20 years ago, a woman I worked with was the wife of “the” minister in town. When he died, she wouldn’t sell his business to an Italian. I know the prejudice still exists, just hard to understand why.
Suzanne @ 132
That would have been perfect.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 129
Your aunty rocks!
TexBetsy @ 135
Or, “Is that why you’re asking them to pay for this adventure?”
I would have liked to hear Gregory respond, “Mr.President, let me worry about protecting my children, and answer the question:Why should anyone believe anything YOU say?”.
Lots of good follow-up question potential that Gregory did not do.
LS@121, alright, I’ll concede a little ground, however, Shrub’s sheer persona and obvious lack of appreciation for the higher arts(intellectual curiosity) appear to tell another story!!!
Please lower your expectations with regard to David Gregory.
Please.
((((((ZEE))))))
In view of the recent realization that McClatchy News has been head and shoulders above other print media from the get-go re: reporting what’s really going on in Iraq, this new development is not surprising to such cynics as myself…
McClatchy News Barred from Defense Secretary’s Plane
TeddySanFran @ 141
We can dream, can’t we?
Edward Teller,
I saw on an earlier thread that your son enlisted. How ya doing?
Dover Bitch @ 137
Exactly. Bush is ALPHA. The others roll over and give it up. This is basic social behavior of all dogs, until some brave youngster says, oh yeah! and either gets their ass kicked or not. In Gregory’s case – not.
TSF #141,
I know. I know. You’re right. I just got caught up in the fantasy for a sec. A little imaginative rebellion to that horrible image of Gregory dancing with Rove.
OK. Thanks. Better now.
allan in upstate,
remember this?
Dover Bitch @ 137
Would that some reporter could have the sensibility to stand up and demand to know just who is supposedly paying for all this (in the financial sense – we all know the answer to the other context). He’s not raising a war tax, there are no war bonds, there’s absolutely no attempt whatsoever to pay for all this other than the ol’ “they’ll never notice this debt underneath the carpet, heh heh!” trick. Debt that interest is steadily rising on, and increasingly putting DC into the hands of Beijing et al.
CTuttle @ 140
It is an act! That is why he puts on his fake TX accent. Jeb has no accent at all. Same gene pool. He is full of bird poop. The bird told us that today…
Suzanne @ 132
Ooooh, Low Blow!!! Evening, Ma’am!!! *g*
CT,just a heads up that The Cranky Mod is here tonight. Been a lot of turbulence today at the Lake. Fucking Dems. Might be a good nite for you to remember to close your bold tags :)
Loo Hoo. @ 134
This is way off topic, but here goes….one of the first incidents of this bias I experienced was when I was around 18. 5′4″, 115lbs., light hair, green eyes (my mother is Irish) but with an Italian surname. After being introduced to someone for first time she said (as if complimenting me) “Really, you’re Italian? You don’t look tough” I must admit. It stung.
LS @ 150
I don’t know about that, I think that pool came up short with Shrub!!! Remember, Jeb was supposed to be the ‘anointed one’, Pappy wasn’t to thrilled with Jr.!!! Bwhahahahaha!!! ;)
FUBAR
The Guardian
Personally, I would just like to have Rudy explain on camera what happened to WTC #7. The tin foil hats among us (myself included) wonder if The Bunker was where the implosion of Twin Towers was
wiredcoordinated.Suzanne @ 152
Ohmmmm, as I pay my humble homages to the Mod God!!! *g*
LS @ 150
That isn’t a Texas accent, it’s ‘hick’. Abu, and Kay Granger have a Texas accent for example ; )
How long will it take for BushCo to proclaim that this re-authorization of Surge2.0 got more votes in the Senate and the House than the original warmaking authorization? Just wait for it — Chimpy with a little smirk, saying “The Congress sent me exactly the bill our troops needed, and more Congresspersons approved this bill than voted to fund the war in the first place!”
By their stupid rule-making, the Democrats let him say this, since AUMF passed the House 296-133 and today’s bill passed the House 348-73. Yeah, I know that was the “Katrina” part of the bill, but Chimpy’ll cite that vote — you watch.
And how lost within this massive failure are our real successes: Katrina relief, insurance for children, and a minimum wage bill? You think the President will trumpet these victories when he signs this new warmaking bill? I don’t either.
watertiger @ 148
That’s so early ’80s. Send in the clones.
Question anybody? We’ve been having a LOT of
“getting bumped off the internet” problems today – all day. Anyone else experiencing this. Techis? Heavy traffic? Or is is just us?
LS, are you dialup? getting bumped of FDL or completely off the internets?
theropod upstairs
Back on topic. I think Rudy will be destroyed by a close examination of 9/11. What exactly did he do to protect New Yorkers? Did the first-responders have the best equipment? Did he protect the workers after the towers fell?
He was available to the press that day. And we sorely needed that. But he’s been given a pass on his failures and that will change if he seems to be winning.
TRex upstairs – something about poetic justice?
We had some bumps earlier – heavy traffic seems the most likely reason.
On my cable modem I’ve been bumped off FDL several times today, while other sites were fine. Seemed to clear up within minutes, each bump-off, though, and tonite, no problems.
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Dover Bitch @ 22
Perhaps he might have offered a bottle of Nuit d’ Amour.
TeddySanFran @ 159
Good Question!!! This was singlehandedly the worst possible manner the Dem leadership could have handled this travesty!!! I could not have visualized a worse scenario! The Dems were handed both Houses with the express intent to resolve the travesty! Iraq topped all exit polls, period!!! So why fumble the ball on your opponent’s one yard line, on a Quarterback sneak???
Cozumel @ 158
Yup. I live in Texas, and I have never heard anyone from Texas say “rahther” (check it out). He actually said that.
because rudy was mayor on 9-11 he did what any mayor would have done! his goddamn job – so for this he’s america’s mayor? but the after-effects paint another story… ask the first responders what THEY think of “mayor rudy” and his sidekick – kreepy kerik ;o}
Suzanne @ 162
Nope. I have a dish thing on my house.
johnSwifty @ 169
Well done!
LS @ 171
Texas here too, since 1980 ; )
juslin @ 172
Yeah, like set up his “command center” in the very most obvious target that had already been attacked. D’oh or tweedely dumb?
Al Gore on Daily Show
Al Gore should be president
neurophius @ 178
Again? ; ) Maybe the planets are aligning, we’ll see ; )
Cozumel @ 179
Maybe it’s all about the timing of sparrows. Wow, that for once is a beautiful thought, and quite real.
Kerik’s little oopsies emerging almost hourly were high entertainment in bleak days.
My personal fave was the undisclosed first wife… The marriage said to have overlapped with his second marriage.
He promised wife #1 he’d never again mention their unhappy marriage, so he didn’t. Can’t fault a guy for chivalry! He also earned creative euphemism credit for the overlapping marriage terminology.
If memory serves, he and Rudi actually formed an entity called Giuliani & Kerik. I trust we’ll get an rerun of this delightful saga, updated for election season.
Main Entry: 1hick
Pronunciation: ‘hik
Function: noun
Etymology: Hick, nickname for Richard
: an unsophisticated provincial person
- hickish /’hi-kish/ adjective
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hick
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
Since he’s concerned with Global Warming and our use of fuels, I would be interested in hearing whether he thinks we’ve passed Peak Oil and how we should transition to other fuel sources — including nuclear power.
I’d also like to know how he sees our international trade situation and how he would like to see it changed for the better.
I also wonder if, in light of his Clinton era work, has any thoughts on health care system reform and what kind of new system or formulation he would like to see.
Finally, on a more personal sort of issue, has he spoken recently to Tony Blair and does he have any comments about Blair’s support of the Bush Global War on Terror?
CTuttle @ 62
How would he know that it was when he was preparing for AG hearings that they were discussed if he didn’t know of any discussions?
Siun @ 89
Geez, a video of that would make a dandy political ad.
Just to inject a piece of Rudi history from someone who lived in New York City the years he was mayor… And because I don’t think this has gotten anywhere near the play it deserves…
I think Rudi did a great job on 9/11. He was in control of the information, though perhaps not the actions on the ground, but honestly, that’s a lot to ask. Very few in history meet that challenge. I also freely recommend considering that part of the reason for his heroic measures what that, against all common sense, he put his “command bunker” in the middle of the biggest terrorist target in the city. Really dumb.
But the connection between his success as a mayor on that day and his success as a mayor in the preceding years is obvious to anyone who watched NY1 (a local news channel). Rudi never, ever, ever failed to show up for a news story.
There are countless stories of his callousness, of his heartlessness, of his deep disrespect for anyone who didn’t have the power he wielded. Condemning buildings with a wave of his hand (in the Lower East Side, leaving dozens of immigrants with their life savings stuffed inside of mattresses for the mobbed-up removal squads to fleece), forbidding people to return to structurally sound buildings to prevent their pets from dying of thirst (after a crane collapse near Times Square); there are too many stories like this to detail in this space.
But he never, ever failed to show up for a big story in the news. If a kitty fell in a sewer, and it was on the news, he was on the fucking tee-vee acting mayoral. If it wasn’t on the TV, he didn’t give a damn how many families were thrown out on the street.
Should he, against the odds as I see it, secure the Republican nomination, the line against him has got to be “ruthless opportunistic press whore”. Because that’s what he truly is.
I want more New Yorkers to speak up about this aspect of Rudi. Forget his abject authoritarianism and windmill-tilting crusades against jaywalking and coffee on the subway. He’s a press whore. Make it stick.
Explaining his (Giuliani’s)opposition to health care mandates, he said, “We’ve got to let people make choices. We’ve got to let them take the risk–do they want to be covered?
What a stupid comment. Who in their right mind doesn’t want universal health insurance coverage? I’ll tell you, only the super rich who can afford self-insurance can dare take such a risk.
A bit unfair to curse a son for the sins of his father, but this Wikipedia article does suggest some genetic leanings:
“Giuliani’s father, Harold, had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing prison;[13] after his release he served as a mafia enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized criminal loan sharking and gambling operation out of a restaurant in Brooklyn.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R….._education