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	<title>Comments on: No More Political Calculus on Iraq, Thank You Very Much</title>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-717433</link>
		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 05:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A large part of the Demo-rat Party seems to have signed a collective suicide pact. They now just have to decide what time to jump out of the window together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only 14 Senators voted against the war funding! In the First Gulf War, the vote on war authorization was much closer, 52-47 I believe, and that was only after an orchestrated propaganda campaign of lies by the Bush Sr. regime. Lies such as babies being thrown from incubators.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several Senators afterwards said they would have voted against authorization if they had known the truth. But now the war opponents have dropped from 47 to 14, and they have all the information they need. Disgusting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Senate seems to be a majority of psychopathic Rethuglicans and roll-over wimp Dems.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A large part of the Demo-rat Party seems to have signed a collective suicide pact. They now just have to decide what time to jump out of the window together.</p>
<p>Only 14 Senators voted against the war funding! In the First Gulf War, the vote on war authorization was much closer, 52-47 I believe, and that was only after an orchestrated propaganda campaign of lies by the Bush Sr. regime. Lies such as babies being thrown from incubators.</p>
<p>Several Senators afterwards said they would have voted against authorization if they had known the truth. But now the war opponents have dropped from 47 to 14, and they have all the information they need. Disgusting.</p>
<p>The Senate seems to be a majority of psychopathic Rethuglicans and roll-over wimp Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716850</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715670&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PLovering @ 140&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715597&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 74&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Not one good thing could come out of bombing Iran,
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bomb Iran and the price of oil zooms to $100 per barrel.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Time for a windfall war-profits tax?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715670"><em>PLovering @ 140</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-715597"><em>Elliott @ 74</em></a></p>
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Not one good thing could come out of bombing Iran,
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<p>Bomb Iran and the price of oil zooms to $100 per barrel.
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<p>Time for a windfall war-profits tax?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716826</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715577&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mauimom @ 57&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS - I sure would like to see folks here weigh in on how this Dem capitulation helps Hillary.  After all, Rahm Emmanuel is one of the architects, and we know that getting her, and thus him, back to the WH is his main goal in life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They don’t like risk. They just want to kick the can down the road until the public is more in favor of walking away from Iraq and then they can “lead” the way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715577"><em>Mauimom @ 57</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>PS &#8211; I sure would like to see folks here weigh in on how this Dem capitulation helps Hillary.  After all, Rahm Emmanuel is one of the architects, and we know that getting her, and thus him, back to the WH is his main goal in life.</p>
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<p>They don’t like risk. They just want to kick the can down the road until the public is more in favor of walking away from Iraq and then they can “lead” the way.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716811</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715527&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 17&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like Dodd.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s experienced and over the next few months we should keep an eye on how he handles himself. It’s when they’re under pressure that you really can find out important things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It never hurts to have more great candidates so the competition between them gives us the most chance of finding just the right one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715527"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 17</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I like Dodd.</p>
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<p>He’s experienced and over the next few months we should keep an eye on how he handles himself. It’s when they’re under pressure that you really can find out important things.</p>
<p>It never hurts to have more great candidates so the competition between them gives us the most chance of finding just the right one.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716803</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715515&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 9&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My displeasure with the cave-in on the Iraq War funding issue almost, I said, ‘almost’, defies description. I will be taking those in my party responsible to task. And I will particularly focus on certain Democratic presidential front-runners who continue to triangulate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would also be a good vote for us to look at, so we’ll get an idea of which Dems to oppose in primaries.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715515"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 9</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>My displeasure with the cave-in on the Iraq War funding issue almost, I said, ‘almost’, defies description. I will be taking those in my party responsible to task. And I will particularly focus on certain Democratic presidential front-runners who continue to triangulate.</p>
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<p>It would also be a good vote for us to look at, so we’ll get an idea of which Dems to oppose in primaries.</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716570</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what is great about Olbermann’s blast is that he proves progressives aren’t pro-democrat, they’re pro-principle. Something politicians on both side of the aisle know next to nothing about.&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is great about Olbermann’s blast is that he proves progressives aren’t pro-democrat, they’re pro-principle. Something politicians on both side of the aisle know next to nothing about.<br />
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		<title>By: opie_jeanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716460</link>
		<dc:creator>opie_jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*sigh*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love KO.  I love him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>I love KO.  I love him.</p>
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		<title>By: MEG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716398</link>
		<dc:creator>MEG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715520&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ThatSinger @ 11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;How about we sit on our fucking checkbooks ’till September too???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Splendid idea. I shall start today. Everyone else, Permission to do the same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715520"><em>ThatSinger @ 11</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>How about we sit on our fucking checkbooks ’till September too???</p>
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<p>Splendid idea. I shall start today. Everyone else, Permission to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsman1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716370</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsman1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“So, like so many parents when they threaten to “give you something to cry about”, let the Dems give W something to throw a temper tantrum over, just like taking a favored belonging away from a spoiled brat&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Zero Out the Executive Branch Funding At The First Available Opportunity”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonderful idea. The only problem with it is that it takes political courage on the part of the Congressional Democrats to pull it off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So, like so many parents when they threaten to “give you something to cry about”, let the Dems give W something to throw a temper tantrum over, just like taking a favored belonging away from a spoiled brat</p>
<p>Zero Out the Executive Branch Funding At The First Available Opportunity”</p>
<p>Wonderful idea. The only problem with it is that it takes political courage on the part of the Congressional Democrats to pull it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/24/no-more-political-calculus-on-iraq-thank-you-very-much/#comment-716048</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715741&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 202&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-715729&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo @ 190&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow, &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:LS@81&quot;&gt;LS@81&lt;/a&gt;, that’s so cool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that really true?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, IIRC, it was a draft resolution that the Iraqi parliament had not yet voted on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-715741"><em>Badwater @ 202</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-715729"><em>Loo Hoo @ 190</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wow, <a href="mailto:LS@81">LS@81</a>, that’s so cool.</p>
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<p>Is that really true?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Actually, IIRC, it was a draft resolution that the Iraqi parliament had not yet voted on.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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