We need to think about Edwards for President. And his first place in Iowa is a good start. I am in NH and getting people on board for him.

Is it all talk? Dunno – but as a citizen I refuse to allow political games and accept these gymnastics – as a citizen its my duty to say what I want and to heck with Reps and Dems selling out (for “political reality”).

How many games have Republicans played with parlimentary moves over the last 6 years. I am sure there are moves that could get defunding done if it was supported by the majority of losers in congress, as well as the vast majority of us loser out here in the real world.

Thanks.

Rayne at 142 — You wanna come over to my house next and help with my burgeoning pile of vacation laundry? I swear, it is breeding, and after two straight days of liveblogging, I am hopelessly behind.

Dear Christy.

Quite simply, you put too much effort into your blogging.
That being said, may I urge you:
PLEASE keep doing exactly as you’re doing.
The laundry can wait…
We luvs ya gal ;->

Well the question Gregory asked that sparked the Clusterfuck response was hardly respectful of his majesty’s position.

Gregory asked a question Bush couldn’t answer so he made a gratuitous threat. That ain’t news. That’s who he is.

I wish Gregory would stop allowing himself to be Bush’s b**ch.

It may be time to get over how various people voted on the original authorization of force.

They figured that the damned thing was going to pass anyway- so they had no moral reason for not voting politically- and there was a very good chance that the thing would go down as easily as Afghanistan and that they would cut off any possibility of future presidential hopes if they voted against it.

They were just wrong.

Kerry was spectacularly wrong- voting AGAINST
Afghanistan and then (realizing that he looked stupid) FOR Iraq.

We’ve all been wrong before. Let’s give this one up. Execting politicians to be omnicient is a losing game.

I still don’t think it’s idealistic to expect them to to carefully weigh the moral implications before voting to authorize a president to take us to war. Sanctioning pre-emptive war is serious, serious business. It can’t just be tossed off as a political miscalculation b/c it turned out to be a disaster. They knew people would die needlessly.

It’s just not your typical, everyday, ho-hum vote.

That said, as I stated earlier, I have had to let resentment go on this issue. But I will never believe such a vote should be taken lightly or forgotten easily by the public, not when people are going to die as a result.

The fix is in. Hillary/Obama in 2008.

You sure know how to ruin a perfectly good day

JH

OK– guess this conversation is about over. Tough to give up discussing the Iraq funding issue as it’s the only thing on most of our minds today. Global trade will be interesting another day.

While I agree that not everyone with a D after their name is a friendly, how do you plan to administer the oh-so-authoritarian ‘punishment’ that you urge?

You direct your money and vote elsewhere. You join forces with others to put up a primary challenger. You write letters to the editor against the unethical toad. You flood them with emails and faxes and phonecalls to express you anger and displeasure AND inform them that you are backing a primary challenger because of X. You attempt to embarrass them at public gatherings by forcing them to defend the indefensible (their voting record).

In an ideal world, politicians would have fewer rights than citizens and would be able to be punched, slapped, pied, tomatoed, etc, with impunity…

[Mod Note: you do know that we take a very dim view of advocating violence against public officials? In this case, we’re going to assume you meant this as a metaphor. Please don’t think we will take the same view the next time.]