Christy!1

Davis is doing the JOB on her. He is focused. She doesn’t know much about USA’s.

AZ Matt @ 2

Davis is doing the JOB on her. He is focused. She doesn’t know much about USA’s.

But she knows enough to hire and fire them?

Marcy!

So Wasserman Schultz left herself two minutes?

Well, things have certainly gotten interesting now. Seems we have Abu G and Sen Domenici in a bit of bother…

Doesn’t she have any records to consult about anything?

this is a terrible thing that she has no policy knowledge on the Attorney/senator information

Wasn’t Monica earlier described as a competent DOJ employee? She doesn’t know much about law.

And now, we’re onto Palouse…

AZ Matt @ 2

Davis is doing the JOB on her. He is focused. She doesn’t know much about USA’s.

Yes: strong and direct is the way to go with her.

Conyers and some of the others have a casual way of questioning – it doesn’t seem to work well with her. Davis is the way to go.

Davis: When you brief McNulty did Dominici call come up?

MG: I don’t know. Don’t know the date of the call. I did address the call but I don’t know when

Davis’ DeeCee office: (202) 225-2665

Its nice to see most of the Dems yielding their time to Davis!!! Go Davis!!!

She’s rattled.

Slap the cuffs on her she lieing

pwrlght @ 8

Wasn’t Monica earlier described as a competent DOJ employee? She doesn’t know much about law.

She politically “competent” :)

Thanks Teddy.

big bob @ 15

Slap the cuffs on her she lieing

I don’t care about her – I want the big fish.

Blub @ 16

pwrlght @ 8

Wasn’t Monica earlier described as a competent DOJ employee? She doesn’t know much about law.

She politically “competent” :)

Remember where she got her training.

This is maddening

she stated that she saw a list and sugested two names to be added

why won’t anyone ask her

WHAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA DID YOU USE TO DECIDE TO ADD THOSE TWO NAMES?

and no one has asked her about the spreadsheet with the federalist and political activity columns

From Christy’s post before this began this morning:

There’s a buffer agency to handle any questions from congresscritters so that the USAs don’t communicate with them and give the impression of impropriety. OLA? Well, that was true until about Nov 8, 2004.

Completely ignore the attempt to interrupt the questioning Keith.

GO GO GO

Don’t these Rethugs get it yet?? They have lost their AG under the bus and a couple of NM politicians.

My office just had a client convicted of witness tampering for doing what Gonzales did.

They thought the MN USA spent too much time on the Indian subcommittee. Getting a little to close to the trillion plus in stolen tribal royalties?

EPU’d from prior thread:

What is Davis’ background? He is on fire!!! Other HJC members [some, at least] should watch & take notes.

Davis deserves lots of happy happy calls from firepups.

Tribal IDs? That’s a new one. And interesting. Native American disenfranchisement, anyone?

I’m finally feeling like I didn’t waste my afternoon listening this. Getting interesting now.

Ellison is sure bringing an important issue on tribal ID’s to vote. Plenty of discrimination in that area.

Helen @ 11

Davis: When you brief McNulty did Dominici call come up?

MG: I don’t know. Don’t know the date of the call. I did address the call but I don’t know when

if she does not know, but dont know the date of call, which is it, the call from dominici or the date of the call?

Liberal, not Dem, HMMMM!!! Gotcha!!!

it’s mind boggling that this little twit had so much power over people whose briefcase she’s unfit and unqualified to carry.

Thank you thank you for the liveblogging!
Desperately trying to catch up.
I wonder how Abu feels about that Bowie knife she just planted in his back?

“I didn’t hear she was a Democrat, I heard she was a liberal.”

Priceless.

She just admitted that politics played a role in a USA hiring, yes? Am I right?

1oldlady @ 29

Helen @ 11

Davis: When you brief McNulty did Dominici call come up?

MG: I don’t know. Don’t know the date of the call. I did address the call but I don’t know when

if she does not know, but dont know the date of call, which is it, the call from dominici or the date of the call?

This is where the missing docs would come in handy.

Goodling: “I don’t know if I knew she was a Democrat. I knew she was a liberal.”

My god.

(facepalm)

Federalist Society! yea

I feel like I’m reading reading a liveblog of Lance Armstrong going for a Stage win.

!

Oh boy. The Christianists must hate this. A Muslim getting tough with their nice little Christian girl.

Davis: this is what a prepared congressman looks like. He did a fantastic job and it was so good to see the other Dems yield. This really is the time when the beans have started to be spilled…

The whole Democrat/liberal comment is just mindboggling.

Mutant Poodle @ 18

big bob @ 15

Slap the cuffs on her she lieing

I don’t care about her – I want the big fish.

My meanning was a little jail time would refresh her memory only
Gonzo and the new mexico senetor were both trying to obstuct jutice..

anne @ 34

She just admitted that politics played a role in a USA hiring, yes? Am I right?

Amen to that!!! AGAG and her are sooo screwed!!!

Finally, the Dems have someone speaking who’s done this before. Geez. It’s late afternoon.

Lundgren beating up on Ellison.

Chair Lee sez MG can finish her answer.

these GOPIf$%ers are pissing me off man

tommy yum @ 32

“I didn’t hear she was a Democrat, I heard she was a liberal.”

Priceless.

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

Goodling says liberal like it’s a dirty word.

i love the advisors behind both of them!

Tire her down…let the GOP make a bluster…and then send in the dogs…..

woof woof woof woof

Finally, asked about the Federalist Society.

I like this chair, she’s awake!

Lundgren sure is grizzled.

EPU’d from prior thread:

dmg @ 298

i honestly don’t see what this line of questioning does, unless it’s to score cheap points on gonzales, domenici, etc…
unless he’s going to tie it to monica’s own behavior…

The questioning is establishing that Domenici and Wilson asked to have Iglesias removed. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t this also show obstruction of justice?

Muzzy @ 38

I feel like I’m reading reading a liveblog of Lance Armstrong going for a Stage win.

!

Saw him clinch the overall at nasty stage in Nante in ‘03. This is a lot like that that.

You know what? Screw this. Throw the lot of them in jail for contempt of Congress and let ‘em stew. They’ll start talking.

egregious @ 50

Finally, asked about the Federalist Society.

missed it, what was said

Where the hell is Conyers? His questioning has been less than stellar but he’s better at chairing the committee.

Ed*ard Teller @ 46

tommy yum @ 32

“I didn’t hear she was a Democrat, I heard she was a liberal.”

Priceless.

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

Wear that “L” proudly, my man!!!

pseudonymous in nc @ 26

Davis deserves lots of happy happy calls from firepups.

Tribal IDs? That’s a new one. And interesting. Native American disenfranchisement, anyone?

Hehe. Who knows, maybe we’ll get real lucky and there’s an Abramoff angle here.

Unbelievable.

Recess and there will be a second round of questions.

1oldlady @ 54

egregious @ 50

Finally, asked about the Federalist Society.

missed it, what was said

whether it was a factor in the hiring

recess for vote

How about a recap someone? I missed the fireworks—on the road.

grape_crush @ 62

recess for vote

a House floor vote?

Ed*ard Teller @ 47

tommy yum @ 32

“I didn’t hear she was a Democrat, I heard she was a liberal.”

Priceless.

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

I’m proud of it too, ET…nice to see you.

CTuttle @ 42

anne @ 34

She just admitted that politics played a role in a USA hiring, yes? Am I right?

Amen to that!!! AGAG and her are sooo screwed!!!

USAs are political hires. But you have to step back and look at what got Paulose pole-vaulted up the ranks.

Dover Bitch @ 50

Lundgren sure is grizzled.

Grizzled and grasping and guilty of obstruction of justice. God it is so embarrassing – we suffered him as AG here in the once golden state.

Ellison did a good job but Lundgren saved her ass. Frustrating but that is how it goes. Giving Davis 12-13 minutes really made Gonzo look very bad. Ellison and Davis were prepared.

Fish Bone @ 56

Where the hell is Conyers? His questioning has been less than stellar but he’s better at chairing the committee.

Meds then a nap?

Hot Damn! See, this is why we need new blood in Congress and the White House. The stale names of Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Biden, etc. have got to go! These two guys are incredible. Finally some life to the DemocratIC Party! YeeHaaww!

Nice job of coaching, Gonzo.

What he did would qualify as (a) coaching a witness and (b) obstruction of justice in any court I can think of.

CTuttle @ 43

anne @ 34

She just admitted that politics played a role in a USA hiring, yes? Am I right?

Amen to that!!! AGAG and her are sooo screwed!!!

They’re screwed, but not over that. Appointing a US Attorney is one of the few positions in which the President / DoJ is permitted to take political affiliation into account.

Politics are a part of hiring USAs. It’s the Asst USA’s and staff positions that aren’t supposed to be political.

Cheese and rice!
I finally get to cspan just in time for a recess!

Sampson: I don’t know, ask Gonzalez
Gonzalez: I don’t know, ask Sampson
Goodling: I don’t know, ask Jesus.
Rove: Fuck you.
Bush: Great job, guys.

gonna be a second round of questions – yippee!!

edit – it’ll be a lot easier for the D’s to pile on more questions than it will for the R’s to stonewall and tell Monica how adoreable she is.

During the recess, cspan 3 is rerunning Davis’ amazing questioning.

Replay of fireworks on C-Span 3 now.

Thanks EW.

Artur Davis was good. It was also good top see other Dems cede their time to him as he was making hay.

Earlier she says politics didn’t play a role in USA firings….but now she admits it did in the case of the Palouse seat.

This also contradicts (again, see Wagner) that she had no role in the hiring/firing and the list.

De-lurkin’ furing recess. Big-time thanks to the big-pups at FDL that do the heavy lifing here.

Also, way back upthread was Cong. Davis’ number. I called and extended my congrats and gratitude for his questioning. Urge others to extend support also.

Back to lurkin’ for today.

Bad question- Monica didn’t need to ask if Rachael was a member of the Federalist Society ’cause she already knew. Otherwise, great job in the questioning.

Liberal Liberal Liberal Liberal

Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

called daves office to thank him and started to cry with joy

kdh22 @ 69

Fish Bone @ 56

Where the hell is Conyers? His questioning has been less than stellar but he’s better at chairing the committee.

Meds then a nap?

j/k. Probably to the House floor or another committee.

newspaperbrat @ 67

Dover Bitch @ 50

Lundgren sure is grizzled.

Grizzled and grasping and guilty of obstruction of justice. God it is so embarrassing – we suffered him as AG here in the once golden state.

Any chance of booting him out in 08?

tommy yum @ 67

Ed*ard Teller @ 47

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

I’m proud of it too, ET…nice to see you.

It was the sneer in her voice when she said “liberal” which made the cake.

RevDeb @ 65

How about a recap someone? I missed the fireworks—on the road.

Recap? Here’s your stinkin’ recap – She accussed Abu of lying to Congress and of trying to steer her testimony.

Tom Steele @ 74

Sampson: I don’t know, ask Gonzalez
Gonzalez: I don’t know, ask Sampson
Goodling: I don’t know, ask Jesus.
Rove: Fuck you.
Bush: Great job, guys.

Nutshell sighting!

RevDeb @ 65

How about a recap someone? I missed the fireworks—on the road.

They’re replaying the “fireworks” on C-SPAN 3.

Davis was outstanding. Davis for AG in a new Democratic administration.

I’m not following the bases for the lawyers’ objections? Are they just trying to run out the clock? If so, can’t the committee force her to come back for more questioning?

Brisingamen @ 53

EPU’d from prior thread:

dmg @ 298

i honestly don’t see what this line of questioning does, unless it’s to score cheap points on gonzales, domenici, etc…
unless he’s going to tie it to monica’s own behavior…

The questioning is establishing that Domenici and Wilson asked to have Iglesias removed. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t this also show obstruction of justice?

at the time i wrote that, all davis had done was ask wouldn’t this behavior be considerd worng, or a crime, or whatever. he seemed to be asking an opinion from little ms. twit. he wasn’t, to my hearing, getting any concession from her that these things did in fact occur.

So when is Davis forming his Presidential Exploratory Committee? I want to be the first to donate (of course, gotta make sure he’s not a Blue Bog I guess…)

Helen @ 88

RevDeb @ 65

How about a recap someone? I missed the fireworks—on the road.

Recap? Here’s your stinkin’ recap – She accussed Abu of lying to Congress and of trying to steer her testimony.

In a nutzshell, so to speak. Helen you slay me!

I’m just listening but I would have loved to have seen Goodling’s face each time Davis was granted more time to continue his questioning of her.

Thus far we have Goodling’s admission that she broke the law in questioning applicants about party affiliations.

We have her statement that Gonzales lied.

We have her statement that Gonzales tried to harmonize his story with hers.

And then we have all of her own inconsistencies today re her varying roles as gofer and dragonlady.

Here comes the spin on MSM to throw Monica under the bus….she’s young..young…young…was their “adult supervision” going on – Michael Isikoff

Liberal Liberal Liberal

O M G!!! finally!! now its on y’alll and cspan is showing hi-lites mmmmmm

meep! @ 91

I’m not following the bases for the lawyers’ objections? Are they just trying to run out the clock? If so, can’t the committee force her to come back for more questioning?

No clock, as such. If the majority wants another round, they can just say so.

geez, she’s not an expert. She’s incompetent, that she sure is

scribe @ 90

tommy yum @ 67

I’m proud of it too, ET…nice to see you.

It was the sneer in her voice when she said “liberal” which made the cake.

It is not unreasonable that a Republican Adminstration dislike liberals.

again and again he stabbed her with the sword of Allah!

Cspan 3 now rerunning the very beginning of the hearings starting with Conyers’ opening statement.

kdh22 @ 65

grape_crush @ 62

recess for vote

a House floor vote?

Yuppers.

MB Williams is probably the go-to person on this subject, but the NAIS issue is interesting, not least because you have Chiara in MI, and Native American prosecutors passed over on the southern border.

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Did your conversation with the AG make you “UNCOMFORTABLE”…

Yes.

Ay Caramba!!

There’s meant to be a HJC immigration subcommittee meeting at 5:30, which means the second round is going to be abbreviated. We’ll see if the GOPpers hang around to run out the clock and run interference. But Goodling won’t want Davis up again, especially if he gets yielded mucho time.

Issa is a bastard.

Hugh @ 96

I’m just listening but I would have loved to have seen Goodling’s face each time Davis was granted more time to continue his questioning of her.

Thus far we have Goodling’s admission that she broke the law in questioning applicants about party affiliations.

We have her statement that Gonzales lied.

We have her statement that Gonzales tried to harmonize his story with hers.

And then we have all of her own inconsistencies today re her varying roles as gofer and dragonlady.

Nice summation, Hugh!!!

Folks, please keep comments brief and hold the one-liners for after the liveblogging. It’s tough enough to transcribe testimony in real time without having to open up a new thread all the time because the comments start piling up on the server load. Thanks. (On behalf of Marcy’s fingers, please use restraint where possible.)

She parked a Greyhound on his ass!
He saw the list of atty’s and lied through his teeth to the committee.
Hows that No Confidence thing workin’ for ya now Abu?

BWAAAHAAAHAAA

I loved Ellison not taking any sh*t from the Repukes trying to interrupt. Just flat out ignored them first and then basically told them to STFU! goD, what a breath of fresh air.

TeddySanFran @ 12

Davis’ DeeCee office: (202) 225-2665

i just called davis’ office – they were gratified to hear my praise. i told them what was being said here in the fdl thread… the person who answered the phone had recently become aware of the site & would pass on the good word to the congressman.

CSpan 3 is replaying the money quotes during the committee recess.pseudonymous in nc @ 103

MB Williams is probably the go-to person on this subject, but the NAIS issue is interesting, not least because you have Chiara in MI, and Native American prosecutors passed over on the southern border.

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

And what about Abramnoff? Saw his name come up earlier in this thread. His he still being deposed or in the pokey? So many crooks so little time to keep track.

“Did the Attorney General ever try to get into your pants?” “Did that make you uncomfortable?”

Christy Hardin Smith @ 112

Folks, please keep comments brief and hold the one-liners for after the liveblogging. It’s tough enough to transcribe testimony in real time without having to open up a new thread all the time because the comments start piling up on the server load. Thanks. (On behalf of Marcy’s fingers, please use restraint where possible.)

OK, since IANAL, what is your take on the Goodling/Gonzo meet? Does that rise to Obstruction, or just inappropriate ickiness?

AZ Matt @ 28

Ellison is sure bringing an important issue on tribal ID’s to vote. Plenty of discrimination in that area.

Agree, but notice MG wouldnt’ commit that that was the basis of it. So it may well be some of the other issues, such as not wanting to have an NA-friendly in charge of relationship with the tribes.

Taking time from work to check in- Damn, looks like there’s finally some meat on this turkey of a hearing…

Go, Davis, wake ‘em up but good! 2nd round of ?s to come. Well, alright. Thanks for the live blogging, EW, & CHS earlier. Will read every bit of it when I get home.

Dan Lundgren was a half descent AG for Ca. When he left, and now in DC, he’s become a total tool.

Hugh @ 97

I’m just listening but I would have loved to have seen Goodling’s face each time Davis was granted more time to continue his questioning of her.

Thus far we have Goodling’s admission that she broke the law in questioning applicants about party affiliations.

We have her statement that Gonzales lied.

We have her statement that Gonzales tried to harmonize his story with hers.

And then we have all of her own inconsistencies today re her varying roles as gofer and dragonlady.

LS @ 105

Did your conversation with the AG make you “UNCOMFORTABLE”…

Yes.

Ay Caramba!!

Was he stroking her long blonde locks and himself at the same time? That kinda ‘uncomfortable’. ]

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

OT, but closely related: David Iglesias to Abu Bin Gonzo: “Pony Up, You Lyin’ Little Shitewhistle

well mebbe he didn’t use EXACTLY those terms…

These “hearings” (to satisfy the dem base) are becoming a vehicle that displays the corruption of our country. Nothing will happen, everyone will have immunity or get pardoned. The dem’s are scared of bush (wiretaps and pictures) so there will be no real challange and dweebs like Gonzo will continue to chuckle and play the game.

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

did dan blow a gasket or WHAT!!! LMAO!!!

Davis’ DeeCee office: (202) 225-2665

called to congratulate as well.

Okay, now I know what I will be doing most of next year.
We are moving to a new home in the next county. After all those hours I worked to oust Pombo from CA-11, we will now be living just over the county line in . . . wait for it . . CA-03.
Home of Dan Lungren.
Ewwww.

Hugh @ 101

I’m just listening but I would have loved to have seen Goodling’s face each time Davis was granted more time to continue his questioning of her.

Thus far we have Goodling’s admission that she broke the law in questioning applicants about party affiliations.

We have her statement that Gonzales lied.

We have her statement that Gonzales tried to harmonize his story with hers.

And then we have all of her own inconsistencies today re her varying roles as gofer and dragonlady.

But mind you, Hugh, no law was broken.

Now get back to indicting Jefferson, why dno’t you? (Not that I mind, mind you, Jefferson’s just as corrupt as they are…)

emptywheel @ 119

AZ Matt @ 28

Ellison is sure bringing an important issue on tribal ID’s to vote. Plenty of discrimination in that area.

Agree, but notice MG wouldnt’ commit that that was the basis of it. So it may well be some of the other issues, such as not wanting to have an NA-friendly in charge of relationship with the tribes.

This is not a NA friendly administration. The whole Cobell case shows that. Interior has sure tried to screw the Tribes. The Tribes know who Abramoff’s buddies are.

bonkers @ 94

So when is Davis forming his Presidential Exploratory Committee? I want to be the first to donate (of course, gotta make sure he’s not a Blue Bog I guess…)

Just so you know, Mr. Artur Davis voted
o For the Military Commissions Act

o For the Bankruptcy bill (technically known as “Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act”)

o Against Net Neutrality (technically the “Markey of Massachusetts Amendment” to the “Communications, Opportunity, Promotion, and Enhancement Act of 2006″), and

o For Federal Government intervention in the Terry Schiavo case (technically known as “For the Relief of the Parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo”)

[Mod: The Schiavo info is wrong, see b&s correction at 1:31 ]

gonzo lied to congress … Now what will the senate with Republican do ,, that line that no crime has been found was throw out the window ,MONICA gave up gonzo .He’s was suborning perjury as clinton did with betty currie .Impeachable

sjvalleygal @ 132

Okay, now I know what I will be doing most of next year.
We are moving to a new home in the next county. After all those hours I worked to oust Pombo from CA-11, we will now be living just over the county line in . . . wait for it . . CA-03.
Home of Dan Lungren.
Ewwww.

Glad this little show could serve as an inspiration.

Mutant at 115 — I need more context, actually, to be sure exactly what did or did not occur there — but given the fact that an investigation had already begun in Congress at that point (if I understand where it was on the timeline — her testimony was a little iffy on that point), it could certainly be construed as trying to influence her testimony by synchronizing their testimony. Which is a big no no. And can result in a charge of obstruction — it’s why the Libby letter to Judy about “aspens turning at their roots” raised so many hackles, for one.

Ed*ard Teller @ 127

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

Strangely enough, AZ, NM, and MI had their attorneys fired by the DoJ. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

What happened in MT, not enough Indians to matter or did the USA cave?

hayduke @ 109

Issa is a bastard.

Today’s Republicans are all bastards and bullies. They have to be beaten into the ground until the crawl back under the rocks from which they came. Each and everyone is more loyal to their Party and an ideology than they are to the people. They are all anti-democratic and ultimately anti-American. After Watergate and Iran-Contra they should have been driven into the sea but were allowed to linger on life support until they crafted their alliance with the radical fundamentalists. They are subverting the Constitution and deserve no quarter.

Linda @ 122

Dan Lundgren was a half descent AG for Ca. When he left, and now in DC, he’s become a total tool.

Lundgren was run out of office in California because he was, and forever will be a fucking repuke tool.

Ed*ard Teller @ 126

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

And the Dakotas. Remember when Tim Johnson beat Thune in 2002? There was all sorts of BS over voter fraud on reservations. And it was SD that prompted the move to strip courts of the right to appoint interim US Attorneys.

Ed*ard Teller @ 47

tommy yum @ 32

“I didn’t hear she was a Democrat, I heard she was a liberal.”

Priceless.

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

The nerve of you!!!

No Holiday Greetings from David Horowitz for you!

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

MB Williams is probably the go-to person on this subject, but the NAIS issue is interesting, not least because you have Chiara in MI, and Native American prosecutors passed over on the southern border.

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Ripping off Native American resources is almost certainly involved as well, so don’t forget to include Cheney, Abramoff, and the mysterious Energy Task Force as well…

To correct, I don’t think artur Davis voted for the Schiavo intervention

emptywheel @ 128

But mind you, Hugh, no law was broken.

Ah yes, the famous IOKIYAR exception.

Yes, the vote suppression amongst native Americans contributed to Tom Daschle’s defeat. Indeed, one thing that has become clearer in thei whole epsiode is that KR’s “get out the vote” is more like “suppress the vote”.

Ed*ard Teller @ 126

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

egregious @ 136

What happened in MT, not enough Indians to matter or did the USA cave?

The USA is Bill Mercer, better known as interim associate AG.

i.e. he’s an absentee landlord.

Leahy’s comments

“It is curious that yet another senior Justice Department official claims to have limited involvement in compiling the list that led to the firings of several well-performing federal prosecutors. What we have heard today seems to reinforce the mounting evidence that the White House was pulling the strings on this project to target certain prosecutors in different parts of the country.

“It is deeply troubling that the crisis of leadership at the Department allowed the White House to wield undue political influence over key law enforcement decisions and policies. It is unacceptable that a senior Justice Department official was allowed to screen career employees for political loyalty, and it confirms our worst fears about the unprecedented and improper reach of politics into the Department’s professional ranks.

“As Congress continues its oversight to pull back the curtain on the politicization of the Justice Department, it is abundantly clear that we must do all we can to get to the truth behind this matter and the role White House played in it.”

Question.
Who actually would draw up potential charges in regards to Abu obstructing,this committee or another body?

Y’know, the folks at Davis’ office seem really really happy today — guess they’re getting a lot of positive feedback ::grin::

I hope KO leads with Monica’s damaging
testimony on Gonzo…
Until that exchange, I thought we had strike out

pseudonymous in nc @ 140

Ed*ard Teller @ 126

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

And the Dakotas. Remember when Tim Johnson beat Thune in 2002? There was all sorts of BS over voter fraud on reservations. And it was SD that prompted the move to strip courts of the right to appoint interim US Attorneys.

Dakotas?

How does Daschle’s loss fit into all this? I want a recount.

Fish Bone @ 58

Where the hell is Conyers? His questioning has been less than stellar but he’s better at chairing the committee.

You must be a troll, right??

pseudonymous in nc @ 142

Ed*ard Teller @ 126

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

And the Dakotas. Remember when Tim Johnson beat Thune in 2002? There was all sorts of BS over voter fraud on reservations. And it was SD that prompted the move to strip courts of the right to appoint interim US Attorneys.

And the USA they’ve got now has political experience as–wait for it–a “Republican election monitor” on SD’s largest reservations.

in defense of Ms. Goodling, might I say that:

1. she hasn’t cried yet,

2. ummmm,

that’s about it.

Monica :”some USATs had less prosecutorial experience than Rachel Poulose who had 3-4 years!She was Repubican was a factor in her hiring. Does that tell you the level of inexperience and competence of AGs across the country? Monica is providing rich insight into the DOJ under GWB.

F’n Dan Lungren, what an ass interrupting. God

IMPEACH the whole mess of neocons Christin lemmings now your country requires it.

egregious @ 136

What happened in MT, not enough Indians to matter or did the USA cave?

Close US Senate race.

Here are the ten states with highest Native American populations:

Alaska 16%
New Mexico 10.2%
South Dakota 8.8%
Oklahoma 8.1%
Montana 6.5%
North Dakota 5.3%
Arizona 5.1%
Wyoming 2.7%
Washington 1.7%
Idaho 1.4%

Hawaii has 9% Native Hawaiian population

blitzer covering MG testimony now…

brownandserve @ 128

Just so you know, Mr. Artur Davis voted
o For the Military Commissions Act

o For the Bankruptcy bill (technically known as “Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act”)

o Against Net Neutrality (technically the “Markey of Massachusetts Amendment” to the “Communications, Opportunity, Promotion, and Enhancement Act of 2006″), and

o For Federal Government intervention in the Terry Schiavo case (technically known as “For the Relief of the Parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo”)

WHOA! Thanks for that. Nevermind then. Go get Gonzo at least!

This woman’s testimony is so riddled with contradictions and lies they should handcuff her away right now. Of course, she has immunity! so that won’t happen.

The Republican party has become a danger to this country. It is dismantling it peice by peice, from a democracy to a christian theocracy. That is clear from this hearing. You were only considered for a job if you were a christian republican.

And they are being allowed to destroy it by the Dems.

Bluetoe @ 138

hayduke @ 109

Issa is a bastard.

Today’s Republicans are all bastards and bullies. They have to be beaten into the ground until the crawl back under the rocks from which they came. Each and everyone is more loyal to their Party and an ideology than they are to the people. They are all anti-democratic and ultimately anti-American. After Watergate and Iran-Contra they should have been driven into the sea but were allowed to linger on life support until they crafted their alliance with the radical fundamentalists. They are subverting the Constitution and deserve no quarter.

Rove is pulling all the strings. Get Rove.

phred @ 142

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

MB Williams is probably the go-to person on this subject, but the NAIS issue is interesting, not least because you have Chiara in MI, and Native American prosecutors passed over on the southern border.

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Ripping off Native American resources is almost certainly involved as well, so don’t forget to include Cheney, Abramoff, and the mysterious Energy Task Force as well…

Estimates range from a mere 200 billion, to a plausible trillion, to as much as 7 trillion with interest as to how much has been stolen from tribal royalties.

Probably no one would break the law to prevent that information from coming out, tho, right?

Hey, while we’re on break. Did I misidentify Sheila Jackson Lee as Maxine Waters sitting in for Conyers? I think I did–and if I did I’d like to go fix it

Hugh @ 97

…I would have loved to have seen Goodling’s face each time…

Somewhere between ‘deer in headlights’ and ‘oh God please make him stop asking those questions’.

Tom Steele @ 77

Sampson: I don’t know, ask Gonzalez
Gonzalez: I don’t know, ask Sampson
Goodling: I don’t know, ask Jesus.
Rove: Fuck you.
Bush: Great job, guys.

rofl

Bustednuckles @ 146

Question.
Who actually would draw up potential charges in regards to Abu obstructing,this committee or another body?

This committee. Or, it is possible that another member of the house would draft them, and they would then be referred to this committee for hearings, amendments, and possible action. From here, if/when approved, they would go to the full house for a vote.

emptywheel @ 161

Hey, while we’re on break. Did I misidentify Sheila Jackson Lee as Maxine Waters sitting in for Conyers? I think I did–and if I did I’d like to go fix it

Sorry, I don’t know the answer to. Are you doing a regular piece for the Guardian each week?

pseudonymous in nc @ 26

Davis deserves lots of happy happy calls from firepups.

Tribal IDs? That’s a new one. And interesting. Native American disenfranchisement, anyone?

Well, this is important because it might help pry loose the 750,000 emails that McCain is sitting on from his committee’s investigation of Abramoff’s abuse of the tribes. Thar’s gold in them thar hills! (I betcha).

Bob in HI

ew at 159 — I think it was Sheila Jackson Lee. (She is wearing a yellow suit today, if that helps, and Rep. Waters is in white.)

Speaking of the AG…This is a great viral video

http://tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=555

Palast Has Goods on Goodling
dailykos link

This has to do with the e-mails Palast has in his office that he got when they were sent to the spoof site.

“Rove is pulling all the strings. Get Rove”

HOW?

Christy Hardin Smith @ 170

ew at 159 — I think it was Sheila Jackson Lee. (She is wearing a yellow suit today, if that helps, and Rep. Waters is in white.)

That’s my problem–I;ve been looking at the screen, though I think by voice it was Lee.

Gonzo only pawn in game of life. (video link)

I was annoyed at all her “I don’t know, I’m not an expert” remarks, until I realized…that’s all getting her incompetency on the record. She was in way over her head, and AG gave her the authority to do quite a lot.

I hope they yield Davis some more time. He is a former AUSA. From Wikepedia:

“..Davis was born in Montgomery, Alabama, and was raised by his mother and grandmother. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1990 and cum laude from Harvard Law School before returning to Alabama.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Davis

Go Harvard!

Dem-agog @ 158

This woman’s testimony is so riddled with contradictions and lies they should handcuff her away right now. Of course, she has immunity! so that won’t happen.

The Republican party has become a danger to this country. It is dismantling it peice by peice, from a democracy to a christian theocracy. That is clear from this hearing. You were only considered for a job if you were a christian republican.

And they are being allowed to destroy it by the Dems.

I think it’s important to keep reminding ourselves that she’s not the target.. the only measure of the success of this whole hearing is whether it gets Gonzo.. and thanks Davis, we may just be one step closer. I think he needs to be thanked for keeping the eye on the prize… however idiotic and dishonest MG is.

Bob in HI @163: Wonder how many of them have Karl Rove’s email address on them?

emptywheel @ 162

Hey, while we’re on break. Did I misidentify Sheila Jackson Lee as Maxine Waters sitting in for Conyers? I think I did–and if I did I’d like to go fix it

EW, yes, it was Jackson Lee sitting in for Conyers.

emptywheel @ 161

Hey, while we’re on break. Did I misidentify Sheila Jackson Lee as Maxine Waters sitting in for Conyers? I think I did–and if I did I’d like to go fix it

I think you did.

When you get a hostile witness like Monica you better know how to question them. And, Davis does the job. More. More. Dems, take a lesson here and know your subject. Thank you, Davis.

egregious @ 160

phred @ 142

Ripping off Native American resources is almost certainly involved as well, so don’t forget to include Cheney, Abramoff, and the mysterious Energy Task Force as well…

Estimates range from a mere 200 billion, to a plausible trillion, to as much as 7 trillion with interest as to how much has been stolen from tribal royalties.

Probably no one would break the law to prevent that information from coming out, tho, right?

Hmmm, 7 trillion — enough to pay for a war and still have pocket change left over… Oh wait, THEY aren’t paying for the war… Nice little profit all around, wouldn’t you say?

emptywheel @ 172

Christy Hardin Smith @ 170

ew at 159 — I think it was Sheila Jackson Lee. (She is wearing a yellow suit today, if that helps, and Rep. Waters is in white.)

That’s my problem–I;ve been looking at the screen, though I think by voice it was Lee.

It was definitely Lee. Waters hair was “down” and straightened, Lee’s is pulled back.

The way she hissed that dirty word “liberal” makes me think she wasn’t paying attention at God’s Own Law School; Jesus was a liberal.

emptywheel @ 152

And the USA they’ve got now has political experience as–wait for it–a “Republican election monitor” on SD’s largest reservations.

Josh Marshall did a lot of reporting on SD in 2002. Here’s one post from the archives, but you can dig out plenty more of the shenanigans.

In short, Thune accused Johnson of personal involvement in voter fraud on reservations.

rep lee is sitting in for conyers – i called rep davis’s office to salute him tho i live in nj

ET@153, That 9% Native Hawaiian is not really accurate, as blood quantum is not factored in, a conservative estimate factoring in blood quantum would put the number higher, say, 30-35%!!! *g*

Jackson Lee was definitely the person in the power chair the last time Lungren interrupted for a ruling when Ellison wasn’t allowing Goodling to fully answer the question, if that helps, so I’d guess she’d been subbing all along. (And I only got to see because we had a commercial break in cartoons — The Peanut is home and C-Span is not a hit today.)

MikeyIn Maine @ 174

I hope they yield Davis some more time. He is a former AUSA. From Wikepedia:

“..Davis was born in Montgomery, Alabama, and was raised by his mother and grandmother. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1990 and cum laude from Harvard Law School before returning to Alabama.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Davis

Go Harvard!

He did a nice job.

lotsa people went ta Hawvawd- we ain’t gonna like em all- includin the prez.

brownandserve @ 140

To correct, I don’t think artur Davis voted for the Schiavo intervention

How do you get the info that quickly. It takes me forever to search. Is there a faster way?

I was delighted to see Wasserman et al yield time to Davis, but for fuck’s sake, couldn’t they game this kind of tag-teaming beforehand instead of waiting until one of ‘em gets hot on a line of questioning?

Tom Steele @ 179

The way she hissed that dirty word “liberal” makes me think she wasn’t paying attention at God’s Own Law School; Jesus was a liberal.

Bite your tongue! Not according to what her teachers taught.

ugh ick.. just checked the major MSM outlets.. they haven’t caught the significance of the Davis questioning yet

spinn @ 171

I was annoyed at all her “I don’t know, I’m not an expert” remarks, until I realized…that’s all getting her incompetency on the record. She was in way over her head, and AG gave her the authority to do quite a lot.

much to Abu’s chagrin

Yet another person who has no vlue who made the list.

tommy yum @ 190

I was delighted to see Wasserman et al yield time to Davis, but for fuck’s sake, couldn’t they game this kind of tag-teaming beforehand instead of waiting until one of ‘em gets hot on a line of questioning?

They seem disorganized and unprepared. I hope Schumer invites Ms. Goodling for a little chat over at his place.

JGabriel @ 180

emptywheel @ 162

Hey, while we’re on break. Did I misidentify Sheila Jackson Lee as Maxine Waters sitting in for Conyers? I think I did–and if I did I’d like to go fix it

EW, yes, it was Jackson Lee sitting in for Conyers.

Thanks, went back and fixed it.

KR’s “get out the vote” is more like “suppress the vote”

…and that’s what “caging” is about, not, as MG disingenuously claimed, “just sorting the ‘good’ addresses from the ‘bad’ ones.”

Blub @ 189

ugh ick.. just checked the major MSM outlets.. they haven’t caught the significance of the Davis questioning yet

I’d watch the daily show i’m sure they caught it ,

I can’t believe she said “her role in selecting US attorneys for replacement” this is absolutely ridiculous. This child being given this amount of power is the story of this, the worst administration in the history of this country.

Tom Steele @ 183

The way she hissed that dirty word “liberal” makes me think she wasn’t paying attention at God’s Own Law School; Jesus was a liberal.

Only the dirty fucking hippies believe that. Every *good* Christian knows that Jesus was a conservative who hated taxes, gays, women, minorities, Jews, and the poor, and loved nothing more than war and a good strong military.

egregious @ 136

Ed*ard Teller @ 127

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

Strangely enough, AZ, NM, and MI had their attorneys fired by the DoJ. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

What happened in MT, not enough Indians to matter or did the USA cave?

Don’t forget, the Montana USAtty is never in the state, because he’s been dual-hatted by Gonzo on some DoJ admin type job (I forget which). This has gotten so bad that (a) the Chief Judge of the D. Mont. has issued a public chewing out and (b) Tester is one of the sponsors of the repeal of that other section of the so-called Patriot Act which permits USAttys to not reside in the district where they’re appointed to.

In other words, the Montana situation was well in hand for the Rethugs, so they didn’t need to fire him.

brownandserve @ 143

To correct, I don’t think artur Davis voted for the Schiavo intervention

Mr. Davis is a Congressman from Alabama…you think maybe he was voting the way his constituents in his district asked him to?
That’s a big difference from going to DC and totally disregarding what your district is calling for like most of these politicians do.

I called the offices of Davis, Ellison, and Wasserman-Schultz to thank them and encourage them to continue to act as prosecutors. The office staff was very thrilled to hear the praise.

I also called John Hall, my rep, to tell him to vote NO on the supplemental tomorrow.

pseudonymous in nc @ 186

emptywheel @ 152

And the USA they’ve got now has political experience as–wait for it–a “Republican election monitor” on SD’s largest reservations.

Oh yes, I’m well aware of it. That’s why the line in the USAs resume stuck out so badly. Plus he’s got some resource issues as well, and bar membership to the Lakota Sioux bar. Like a mini-Troy Eid, he is.
Josh Marshall did a lot of reporting on SD in 2002. Here’s one post from the archives, but you can dig out plenty more of the shenanigans.

In short, Thune accused Johnson of personal involvement in voter fraud on reservations.

Yup. Which is why the election monitor point stuck out for me so badly. Plus he’s got resource extraction background, as well. A veritable mini-Troy Eid, really.

Peterr @161,
Thanks.
Popping in and out from work.

jayt @ 153

in defense of Ms. Goodling, might I say that:

1. she hasn’t cried yet,

2. ummmm,

that’s about it.

Honestly, she comes across as much more knowledgable than either Sampson or Abu. I’m not impressed with the girl, but she is acqutting herself much better than her resume would have suggested to me. IMHO, the bar is damned low, considering the other DOJ officials who testified before her. And also, she seems much more capable than the Rep tools who keep jumping to her defense and iterating that there’s nothing to see here folks, move along….

JGabriel @ 203

Tom Steele @ 183

The way she hissed that dirty word “liberal” makes me think she wasn’t paying attention at God’s Own Law School; Jesus was a liberal.

Only the dirty fucking hippies believe that. Every *good* Christian knows that Jesus was a conservative who hated taxes, gays, women, minorities, Jews, and the poor, and loved nothing more than war and a good strong military.

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

Tom Steele @ 77

Sampson: I don’t know, ask Gonzalez
Gonzalez: I don’t know, ask Sampson
Goodling: I don’t know, ask Jesus.
Rove: Fuck you.
Bush: Great job, guys.

You forgot McNulty. One of the good things here is that the circular firing squad at the top of DOJ is now complete: Gonzales, his deputy McNulty, Sampson, and Goodling. They’ve implicated each other in perjury.

Bob in HI

LIBERAL TexBetsy @ 191

Bite your tongue! Not according to what her teachers taught.

At least she wasn’t homeschooled, like the worst of the Liberty U/Regents types

That generation is the one that really scares me..

emptywheel @ 204

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

Ding!

snowbird42 @ 169

Palast Has Goods on Goodling
daily kos link

This has to do with the e-mails Palast has in his office that he got when they were sent to the spoof site.

In the comments, Palast’s assistant says they are currently scheduling a meeting with Conyer’s office. Palast describes some of the content as “self-incriminating” for Rove. What are you waiting for?!? Let’s bring the cabal down!

engaging in wild speculation here – but can’t help but feel her non answers on Domenichi & Wilson was pure Comstock – the unethical nature of what they did is so obvious to all . . .and yet, even with immunity she would do nothing to hurt the brand

FINALLY they are having an important hearing when I am home to watch it! Thanks for the recaps y’all.

emptywheel @ 205

JGabriel @ 203

Only the dirty fucking hippies believe that. Every *good* Christian knows that Jesus was a conservative who hated taxes, gays, women, minorities, Jews, and the poor, and loved nothing more than war and a good strong military.

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

Mauimom @ 88

newspaperbrat @ 67

Grizzled and grasping and guilty of obstruction of justice. God it is so embarrassing – we suffered him as AG here in the once golden state.

Any chance of booting him out in 08?

I live in Lungren’s district. We are working to oust this idiot. Unfortunately we have no one to run against him in ‘08. Or, rather, we are looking for someone. Anybody out there . . .

emptywheel @ 207

JGabriel @ 203

Only the dirty fucking hippies believe that. Every *good* Christian knows that Jesus was a conservative who hated taxes, gays, women, minorities, Jews, and the poor, and loved nothing more than war and a good strong military.

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

Yeah, but didn’t he get sick of it after two or three days?

Dee Loralei @ 205

jayt @ 153

in defense of Ms. Goodling, might I say that:

1. she hasn’t cried yet,

2. ummmm,

that’s about it.

Honestly, she comes across as much more knowledgable than either Sampson or Abu. I’m not impressed with the girl, but she is acqutting herself much better than her resume would have suggested to me. IMHO, the bar is damned low, considering the other DOJ officials who testified before her. And also, she seems much more capable than the Rep tools who keep jumping to her defense and iterating that there’s nothing to see here folks, move along….

That’s what immunity will do for ya!

Hi Cassie!

Edwards on cnn calls war on terror a “political slogan”

i think congresswoman Jackson Lee did an honorable job holding things together w/ firmness & not caving during the most contentious part of the hearing. i just gave a shout out to her at her dc office (202) 225-3816.

the person who answered the phone said she would really appreciate hearing this. we need to praise these people when they do well!

Jane S. @ 186

MikeyIn Maine @ 174

I hope they yield Davis some more time. He is a former AUSA. From Wikepedia:

“..Davis was born in Montgomery, Alabama, and was raised by his mother and grandmother. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1990 and cum laude from Harvard Law School before returning to Alabama.”

wiki Artur Davis

Go Harvard!

He did a nice job.

Without two of three time yields from other members, we would not have gotten MG’s damaging testimony.

This 5 minute limit is terribble. A skilled cross needs at least 20 mins, preferably 30.

newtonusr @ 217

Hi Cassie!

Hiya!

Re where is the chairman…if you noticed both the chair and the ranking left….that was planned so that they would not be involved in the squabble that had to happen…the GOP had to be allowed to cry but those two did not have to be there. Not a new thing to do that…and you know in advance that it won’t go anywhere when they are both missing…just a procedure to let the minority cry and say they tried.

Isn’t all this coaching of the witless taking a long time?

Peterr @ 216

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

And the arbitrary designation of someone as a terrorist solely on the basis of his ethnic and religious profile.

On the regular CSpan on the TV:

Tonight
House Hearing with Fmr. DOJ Official Monica Goodling (11pm)
Pres. Bush Commencement Address to U.S. Naval Academy (3am)
Sen. Obama (D-IL) in New Hampshire (3:35am)

BTW, Davis is co-sponsor, along with Adam Schiff, of a congressional resolution calling for a no-confidence vote on Gonzales. Also, according to his web site, Davis had a 98% conviction rate as an AUSA. No wonder his questioning was so sharp.

Sarik @ 220

Isn’t all this coaching of the witless taking a long time?

This is a vote recess. Not for conferring with counsel.

The Rs got f**ked on the vote on the motion to table because they didn’t have everybody there. Hahahahah! That little ploy of not showing up to make a statement kinda backfired on ‘em. Davis was able to continue his attack. Chalk that one up to Jackson-Lee.

grayslady @ 226

BTW, Davis is co-sponsor, along with Adam Schiff, of a congressional resolution calling for a no-confidence vote on Gonzales. Also, according to his web site, Davis had a 98% conviction rate as an AUSA. No wonder his questioning was so sharp.

Maybe I will be one of THOSE when I get older.

emptywheel @ 223

Peterr @ 216

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

And the arbitrary designation of someone as a terrorist solely on the basis of his ethnic and religious profile.

I wonder if Monica & Co are also having their Wednesday Bible study right now.

Dem-agog @ 171

“Rove is pulling all the strings. Get Rove”

HOW?

Most of the ways I can think of are illegal.

Artur Davis on C-Span from an earlier interview laying out the issues surrounding the Goodling testimony.

Mary McCurnin @ 210

Mauimom @ 88

Any chance of booting him out in 08?

I live in Lungren’s district. We are working to oust this idiot. Unfortunately we have no one to run against him in ‘08. Or, rather, we are looking for someone. Anybody out there . . .

hmmmm….maybe you could try drafting my former congresscritter Leon Panetta – oh silly me – he is too busy these days inviting Bill O’Reilly and James Carville to his CSU Panetta Institute despite considerable protest. ;~(

kdh22 @ 229

The Rs got f**ked on the vote on the motion to table because they didn’t have everybody there. Hahahahah! That little ploy of not showing up to make a statement kinda backfired on ‘em. Davis was able to continue his attack. Chalk that one up to Jackson-Lee.

They would have lost anyway. The Pubs don’t have a majority in the HJC any more than they have one in Congress.

Under House rules, can one yield time to a less senior member? Davis did so well in the Gonzales questioning, I was hoping he’d be in from early on today, but only less senior members have yielded to him in the first round.

do you reckon someone will ask Tony Snow if Signor Gonzo still has the president’s “confidence” now that little miss Jesus groupie has said he lied to Congress?

Anybody have a complete list of Reps DC office phone numbers? I’d like to call Debbie’s place, too.
Got it: 202-225-7931

Educated Plaintiff @ 215

i think congresswoman Jackson Lee did an honorable job holding things together w/ firmness & not caving during the most contentious part of the hearing. i just gave a shout out to her at her dc office (202) 225-3816.

the person who answered the phone said she would really appreciate hearing this. we need to praise these people when they do well!

That was the same reaction I received when I called Congressman Davis’ office – and thanks to whoever posted his phone # up thread.

I called Congressman Davis’ DC office and left an “attaboy” with his staff. I felt he was the first one among them to be prepared.

He did a great job.

egregious @ 219

Edwards on cnn calls war on terror a “political slogan”

Got that one right. Wish the dems would start repeating this.

Peterr @ 230

I wonder if Monica & Co are also having their Wednesday Bible study right now.

Artur Davis didn’t quite bring her to tears, but I could almost hear her praying “Dear God, please rapture me up right now so I can show these nasty liberals how things really, really work!”

newtonusr @ 234

Anybody have a complete list of Reps DC office phone numbers? I’d like to call Debbie’s place, too.
Got it: 202-225-7931

1 (800) 828 – 0498
1 (800) 459 – 1887
1 (800) 614 – 2803
1 (866) 340 – 9281
1 (866) 338 – 1015
1 (877) 851 – 6437

Leadership
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, (202) 225-4965
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, (202) 225-4131

newtonusr @ 236

Anybody have a complete list of Reps DC office phone numbers? I’d like to call Debbie’s place, too.
Got it: 202-225-7931

Here’s the membership list of the committee. Click on a member’s name, and you’ll find their phone number

Hiflyer @ 222

Re where is the chairman…if you noticed both the chair and the ranking left….that was planned so that they would not be involved in the squabble that had to happen…the GOP had to be allowed to cry but those two did not have to be there. Not a new thing to do that…and you know in advance that it won’t go anywhere when they are both missing…just a procedure to let the minority cry and say they tried.

I’ve seen this before as well — allows the chair and ranking member to stay collegial, while allowing the political kabuki to be shoveled out for the folks who want to buy it. Wouldn’t be surprised, especially given that it was Lungren — he and Cannon and Issa appear to be the designated blowhards in this particular committee for the dog and pony politics shows.

JGabriel @ 234

kdh22 @ 229

The Rs got f**ked on the vote on the motion to table because they didn’t have everybody there. Hahahahah! That little ploy of not showing up to make a statement kinda backfired on ‘em. Davis was able to continue his attack. Chalk that one up to Jackson-Lee.

They would have lost anyway. The Pubs don’t have a majority in the HJC any more than they have one in Congress.

More than likely, but the Reps come and go to take care of other business in other committees, mtgs with constituents, lobbyists, etc. So there could have been a time when there wasn’t alot of Dems in their committee chairs. But I think the fact that the Rs have done this on several occasions, meaning not participating to give the impression that it’s ‘no big deal’, ‘nothing of import here’ that the Ds have told their Reps ‘be there unless you have to vote’. I experienced that in the state legislature committee mtgs/hrgs.

so Davis did a great job, but 90% of this has been a puke-inducing snoozefest.

RE getting congressional phone #s, just google the name or “Congressman so-and-so.” Their official website will be near the top of the list. Each one will have phone and fax numbers.

newtonusr -

http://www.congress.org

has everything

Blub @ 208

LIBERAL TexBetsy @ 191

Bite your tongue! Not according to what her teachers taught.

At least she wasn’t homeschooled, like the worst of the Liberty U/Regents types

That generation is the one that really scares me..

Homeschooling “scares” you? Abraham Lincoln was homeschooled.

Votes:

Military Commissions Act

Bancruptcy Bill

Net Neutrality

I apologize for mixing up Artur Davis and Lincoln Davis on the Schaivo bill. Artur Davis missed that vote.

Peterr, LIBERAL TexBetsy, cbl – thanks!

Josh Marshall a half hour or so ago:

It’s interesting to note how the House Republicans continue to praise Monica Goodling for her testimony even as she admits to repeated criminal acts (namely, using partisan affiliation as a criteria for hiring career employees).

She may be brought to tears yet.

Mr. Peabody @ 246

so Davis did a great job, but 90% of this has been a puke-inducing snoozefest.

Yeah…keep tellin’ yourself that! LOL

How late do you think this will go? Get home by 5:30. May actually see some of it.

I dreamed I swayed the Congressional Hearing in my Regent approved maiden form bra

gotta go Firedogs -

catch y’all later tonight

CHRISTY and EMPTYWHEEL – thanks so much!!!

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Solai @ 253

How late do you think this will go? Get home by 5:30. May actually see some of it.

Depends on your time zone!

Ed*ard Teller @ 251

Josh Marshall a half hour or so ago:

It’s interesting to note how the House Republicans continue to praise Monica Goodling for her testimony even as she admits to repeated criminal acts (namely, using partisan affiliation as a criteria for hiring career employees).

She may be brought to tears yet.

No – Not Good! We don’t want anything in the news that would cause anyone to feel sympathy for her.

AZ Matt @ 256

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Imagine that

monicasez @ 254

I dreamed I swayed the Congressional Hearing in my Regent approved maiden form bra

707!

AZ Matt @ 260

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

I’d hold off on the celebration until we’re sure Reid’s little anti-Recess appointment program works.

AZ Matt @ 256

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Watch for a recess appt. Bush did that with Sam Fox after he withdrew his own name.

SnarKassandra @ 226

grayslady @ 226

BTW, Davis is co-sponsor, along with Adam Schiff, of a congressional resolution calling for a no-confidence vote on Gonzales. Also, according to his web site, Davis had a 98% conviction rate as an AUSA. No wonder his questioning was so sharp.

Maybe I will be one of THOSE when I get older.

may i point out that there is no dishonor in being a criminal defense attorney either? I know that you’re only 15, but when one takes a look at what this admin has done to the rights of individuals, which very well might not be undone any time soon, you could even be looking at a growth market.

But above all, follow your conscience.

emptywheel @ 261

AZ Matt @ 260

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

I’d hold off on the celebration until we’re sure Reid’s little anti-Recess appointment program works.

Lordy. Can’t they do something to officially keep Congress is session and just rotate back to their districts?

AZ Matt @ 257

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Oh sh*t. Recess appointment? Been there, done that

Paul Kiel just posted a statement by Sen. Leahy at TPMMuck:

“It is curious that yet another senior Justice Department official claims to have limited involvement in compiling the list that led to the firings of several well-performing federal prosecutors. What we have heard today seems to reinforce the mounting evidence that the White House was pulling the strings on this project to target certain prosecutors in different parts of the country.
“It is deeply troubling that the crisis of leadership at the Department allowed the White House to wield undue political influence over key law enforcement decisions and policies. It is unacceptable that a senior Justice Department official was allowed to screen career employees for political loyalty, and it confirms our worst fears about the unprecedented and improper reach of politics into the Department’s professional ranks.

“As Congress continues its oversight to pull back the curtain on the politicization of the Justice Department, it is abundantly clear that we must do all we can to get to the truth behind this matter and the role White House played in it.”

Arthur Davis appears to have gotten Goodling to impeach Gonzales for suborning (trying to “frame” her recollection on a matter in which they would both be witnesses) and for “misspeaking” (aka perjury) to Congress.I guess the Harvard Law grad (Davis) whipped the Regent’s grad (Goodling) in this exchange despite the pro-Regent exhortations of Randy Forbes.

Mr. Peabody @ 244

so Davis did a great job, but 90% of this has been a puke-inducing snoozefest.

We’re getting what we could reasonably expect – Monica violates every expectation the public could have of a DOJ employee; Monica gives Sampson, McNulty, Moschella a hearty shove; Monica reluctantly exposes Abu as a shiftless wanker & criminal & fool. Not bad.

emptywheel @ 261

AZ Matt @ 260

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

I’d hold off on the celebration until we’re sure Reid’s little anti-Recess appointment program works.

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

spurious @ 258

Solai @ 253

How late do you think this will go? Get home by 5:30. May actually see some of it.

Depends on your time zone!

Be home in less than an hour.

t greenberg @ 271

Arthur Davis appears to have gotten Goodling to impeach Gonzales for suborning (trying to “frame” her recollection on a matter in which they would both be witnesses) and for “misspeaking” (aka perjury) to Congress.I guess the Harvard Law grad (Davis) whipped the Regent’s grad (Goodling) in this exchange despite the pro-Regent exhortations of Randy Forbes.

Those Regents celebrations all pertain to events tha happened after Goodling left.

It may be improving–but it didn’t begin to improve before Regents had already thrown subjected us to Monica.

I don’t think MG sounds dumb. I don’t agree with her, I think she broke the law, I think she should be prosecuted for it, but I don’t think she’s dumb.

AZ Matt @ 257

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Which probably means that Baroody got word from Bush that he’ll be recess appointed instead.

kdh22 @ 269

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

This 5 minute limit is terribble. A skilled cross needs at least 20 mins, preferably 30.

Or if you’re totally overpriced and semi useless like say Libby’s defense team you need all day to cross examine 15 minutes of main by Fitz and his team.

Brisingamen @ 274

kdh22 @ 269

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

Amen.

tommy yum @ 190

I was delighted to see Wasserman et al yield time to Davis, but for fuck’s sake, couldn’t they game this kind of tag-teaming beforehand instead of waiting until one of ‘em gets hot on a line of questioning?

IANAL but…one of the (many) things i learned from being (a plaintiff), in a 6 yr lawsuit is part of legal strategy is to wait until the (adversarial) person you are questioning is tired…then hit them w/ the hard stuff. i’m sure mg & her counsel were expecting something along these lines.

t greenberg @ 266

Arthur Davis appears to have gotten Goodling to impeach Gonzales for suborning (trying to “frame” her recollection on a matter in which they would both be witnesses) and for “misspeaking” (aka perjury) to Congress.I guess the Harvard Law grad (Davis) whipped the Regent’s grad (Goodling) in this exchange despite the pro-Regent exhortations of Randy Forbes.

In the Jerry Falwell funeral coverage, I saw that the first class of graduates of the Liberty University School of Law graduated last week. Perhaps Falwell was inspired to open the school based on the same low opinion of the quality of Regents.

Brisingamen @ 274

kdh22 @ 269

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

Yes, Sir, they could and should.

Ed*ard Teller @ 233

Under House rules, can one yield time to a less senior member? Davis did so well in the Gonzales questioning, I was hoping he’d be in from early on today, but only less senior members have yielded to him in the first round.

There are 23 dems and 17 GOP on HJC. This run-of-Dems happened among the least senior (yay, 30-somethings!) because all the GOP had had their say, and the remaining Dems could coordinate their yielding to give Davis a clear shot, and lotsa time.

JGabriel @ 274

Which probably means that Baroody got word from Bush that he’ll be recess appointed instead.

Well. not to scare anybody, but there have been some reports that some WH people believe that recess appointments aren’t restricted to actual recesses, and that the president can make them if he feels a position needs go be filled by Congress can’t or won’t fill them.

CNN just did a piece on YKos and the presidential candidates who will be there for a Presidential forum – Edwards, Richardson, Obama – were all I caught. They followed with a tease bit on Monica’s testimony without any substance thus far.

JGabriel @ 36

Goodling: “I don’t know if I knew she was a Democrat. I knew she was a liberal.”

My god.

(facepalm)

Welll…..’i knew she was a liberal’ ……. flabbergasted.

Brisingamen @ 275

kdh22 @ 269

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

All congressmen should be required to visit every wounded soldier and to visit the family of every soldier killed.

Brisingamen @ 275

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

At Arlington National Cemetery, New Graves, Fresh Grief

Sparkle Plenty @ 272

I don’t think MG sounds dumb. I don’t agree with her, I think she broke the law, I think she should be prosecuted for it, but I don’t think she’s dumb.

She may not be dumb, but Schiff and Davis boxed her in and she had NO idea it was happening.

theExile @ 279

This 5 minute limit is terribble. A skilled cross needs at least 20 mins, preferably 30.

Or if you’re totally overpriced and semi useless like say Libby’s defense team you need all day to cross examine 15 minutes of main by Fitz and his team.

Yeah, I gotta say, Fitz only needed two questions to totally gut the value of Jill Abramson as a defense witness:

Fitz: Did you sometimes tune out when Judy Miller talked to you?
Abramoson: Yes.

10 seconds maybe.

Peterr @ 279

Liberty

What happened to their resident bomb thrower? Didn’t they arrest somebody who’s a studen there

Sparkle Plenty @ 273

I don’t think MG sounds dumb. I don’t agree with her, I think she broke the law, I think she should be prosecuted for it, but I don’t think she’s dumb.

It’s not how she says it. It’s what she actually says that’s idiotic.

Seriously, if you listen to the words and assign meaning to them, she comes across as a toadying, gullible, jackass.

haha, CHS — “designated blowhards”

!!!

spurious @ 277

Brisingamen @ 274

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

Amen.

Does any one know what their strategy is going to be? All I’ve heard are ideas on what they should do, but no one seems to if Reid even has a plan.

Blub @ 288

Peterr @ 279

Liberty

What happened to their resident bomb thrower? Didn’t they arrest somebody who’s a studen there

Yeah but since he wasn’t a muslim immigrant that speaks Arabic, nobody wants to put it on the news.

brownandserve:

I apologize for mixing up Artur Davis and Lincoln Davis on the Schaivo bill. Artur Davis missed that vote.

hooray for the (sometimes literally!) self-correcting toobz

AZ Matt @ 257

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Sounds familiar. Isn’t this what Fox did before Bush appointed him Ambassador to Belgium during a 3-day recess? Don’t we have the Memorial Day holiday coming up? If I were the Dems, I’d make sure the Senate stayed open, somehow, over the Memorial Day recess.

twolf1 @ 286

Brisingamen @ 275

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

At Arlington National Cemetery, New Graves, Fresh Grief

Yes, my local paper ran that article this morning — I’ve been holding back tears all day.

Ed*ard Teller @ 280

Brisingamen @ 275

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

All congressmen should be required to visit every wounded soldier and to visit the family of every soldier killed.

Ding!

SnarKassandra @ 290

Yeah but since he wasn’t a muslim immigrant that speaks Arabic, nobody wants to put it on the news.

…hence the name “SnarKassandra”!

AZ Matt @ 255

OT – One we won’t have to worry about. From The Hill:

Following sustained criticism from Senate Democrats, Michael Baroody, the industry lobbyist whom President Bush wanted to lead the Consumer Product Safety Commission, withdrew his name from consideration Wednesday — just one day prior to a hearing on the nomination.

Hope this isn’t another Sam Fox — teed up just in time for the Memorial Day recess. Is Harry Reid gonna get fooled again?

Blub @ 282

JGabriel @ 274

Which probably means that Baroody got word from Bush that he’ll be recess appointed instead.

Well. not to scare anybody, but there have been some reports that some WH people believe that recess appointments aren’t restricted to actual recesses, and that the president can make them if he feels a position needs go be filled by Congress can’t or won’t fill them.

why doesn’t bush stop pussyfooting around and just declare himself King George IV? Then at least we can have a revolution and start all over.

JGabriel @ 290

toadying, gullible, jackass.

Actually, she doesn’t come off at that bad to me.. just a not unintelligent fundie whose ideological credentials put her into a position for which she had few qualifications and who was then subsequently put by her evil bosses into an impossible personal position, from which career redemption or even a graceful exit is an impossibility. I don’t feel bad for her and she deserves whatever happens to her but I don’t think she’s performed any worse than the next junior shrubbie political operative.

Blub @ 281

JGabriel @ 274

Which probably means that Baroody got word from Bush that he’ll be recess appointed instead.

Well. not to scare anybody, but there have been some reports that some WH people believe that recess appointments aren’t restricted to actual recesses, and that the president can make them if he feels a position needs go be filled by Congress can’t or won’t fill them.

Of course, kings can do anything they want.

Sparkle Plenty @ 274

I don’t think MG sounds dumb. I don’t agree with her, I think she broke the law, I think she should be prosecuted for it, but I don’t think she’s dumb.

If your kid got arrested for possession of a small amount of marijuana in plain view in a public place in the company of someone else, also arrested, who was in possession of a firearm which was concealed and loaded with a projectile that could be readily fired from same, would you want her to defend your kid?

Blub @ 287

Peterr @ 279

Liberty

What happened to their resident bomb thrower? Didn’t they arrest somebody who’s a studen there

I only caught a little of that story. They said he was worried about protesters disrupting the funeral, and brought some home-made incindiary devices along to “defend” the services.

His family apparently tipped off the police — thank goodness.

Folks, I started a new thread in hopes that it’ll trigger these guys to get back to work.

SnarKassandra @ 293

Blub @ 288

What happened to their resident bomb thrower? Didn’t they arrest somebody who’s a studen there

Yeah but since he wasn’t a muslim immigrant that speaks Arabic, nobody wants to put it on the news.

You got it. But it did make the news since the young man was simply adopting a “pre-emptive defense” against potential demonstrators at JF’s funeral…so it’s OK.

clichy @ 303

Sparkle Plenty @ 274

I don’t think MG sounds dumb. I don’t agree with her, I think she broke the law, I think she should be prosecuted for it, but I don’t think she’s dumb.

If your kid got arrested for possession of a small amount of marijuana in plain view in a public place in the company of someone else, also arrested, who was in possession of a firearm which was concealed and loaded with a projectile that could be readily fired from same, would you want her to defend your kid?

Lots of good points on this thread!

and the easy answer…..HELL NO!

New thread…

Peterr @ 304

protesters disrupting the funeral.

My understanding from the two minutes of background news coverage I heard is that , strangely, he wanted to use the bombs against Rev Phelps and his anti-gay protestors… so now the wingnuts are planning on blowing each other up?

Hearing is back on

Brisingamen @ 275

kdh22 @ 269

Good point, ew. Will they call a session and get a quorum over the weekend? Is that necessary? I’d personally do it just as a precaution. There are fun things to do in DC on Mem Day, right?

For one thing, they could go over to Arlington and pay their respects at the fresh row of graves there.

I’d prefer that they visit the graves in Iraq.

We’re back! The hearings are starting up again.

I assume this means a new thread will be going up.

Jake @ 249

Blub @ 208

At least she wasn’t homeschooled, like the worst of the Liberty U/Regents types

That generation is the one that really scares me..

Homeschooling “scares” you? Abraham Lincoln was homeschooled.

And most recently Mr. David Ludwig was homeschooled and he kidnapped his girlfriend after killing her parents. Link

Super expensive make-over, but same black soul.

One of Liberty Lying Liars best………..er,wait that punk terrorist with the homemade bombs is quite the cum laude material, too.

What’s that bible saying……….woe to those who call evil good, and good evil. Too tired to bother looking it up, but these liars persona it, and then some.

Blub @ 283

JGabriel @ 274

Which probably means that Baroody got word from Bush that he’ll be recess appointed instead.

Well. not to scare anybody, but there have been some reports that some WH people believe that recess appointments aren’t restricted to actual recesses, and that the president can make them if he feels a position needs go be filled by Congress can’t or won’t fill them.

Constitutional Conflicts between Congress and the President, Louis Fisher…..this theory holds about as much water as their unitary executive theory. Some of the recess appointments made by many presidents have been counter to accepted practice. A recess appointment is just that; even this Supreme Court would not uphold a recess appointment when Congress is not recessed.

OK, outfit question. Goodling is wearing a black suit. Is she wearing pants or a skirt? (snark!)

Dan Lundgren was a half descent AG for Ca. When he left, and now in DC, he’s become a total tool.

Besides inability to spell, this statement is so far out there to be in orbit.

Lundgren has always been, and will continue to be a repuke tool, and a very crappy attorney. While AG, he continued to provide legal cover for state agencies when they committed crimes. Instead of prosecuting for their crimes, he and his agency provided outlandish defense.

Example: Cal State University wasted tens of millions of dollars over many years on projects that were funded in violation of state law and University procedures. When taken to court, AG defended state on grounds that the state agency AG was representing in court was not really a state agency. Incredible, but it prevailed. Another example was the DMV fiasco – only one of many such examples of state agency stupidity.

Oops…… should have proofread. Mea culpa to you all.

tommy yum @ 67

Ed*ard Teller @ 47

It was. One of my students complained on an evaluation of me “He’s an open liberal, and what especially bothers me is that he’s proud of it.”

I’m proud of it too, ET…nice to see you.

Count me in as another “Proud liberal.”
We should never have allowed the Republicans to re-brand liberalism.

Bob in HI

Bob in HI

Christy Hardin Smith @ 112

Folks, please keep comments brief and hold the one-liners for after the liveblogging. It’s tough enough to transcribe testimony in real time without having to open up a new thread all the time because the comments start piling up on the server load. Thanks. (On behalf of Marcy’s fingers, please use restraint where possible.)

Yes! It is good to see Marcy’s flying fingers at work again live-blogging! Once again, she’s done a terrific job of it! (I think we’re still in recess now, aren’t we?)

Bob in HI

pseudonymous in nc @ 139

Ed*ard Teller @ 126

Attenuation of the Native American vote is routinely practiced in states with high Native American populations, especially when the GOP control the politics of those states. The most important of these to Republicans in the past six years have been AZ, NM, MT and MI.

And the Dakotas. Remember when Tim Johnson beat Thune in 2002? There was all sorts of BS over voter fraud on reservations. And it was SD that prompted the move to strip courts of the right to appoint interim US Attorneys.

Yeah, the Republicans wanted SERIOUS payback against Daschle, so I can imagine they’d use every vote-supression technique they knew about in the Dakotas.

Bob in HI

phred @ 141

pseudonymous in nc @ 107

MB Williams is probably the go-to person on this subject, but the NAIS issue is interesting, not least because you have Chiara in MI, and Native American prosecutors passed over on the southern border.

I wouldn’t be surprised if keeping Native Americans from voting was part of Unka Karl’s grand scheme.

Ripping off Native American resources is almost certainly involved as well, so don’t forget to include Cheney, Abramoff, and the mysterious Energy Task Force as well…

We need to rip off the lid on the 750,000 emails McCain collected 1-2 years ago when he was chair of the committee “investigating” (i.e., covering up) Abramoff et al.

Bob in HI

emptywheel @ 206

JGabriel @ 203

Only the dirty fucking hippies believe that. Every *good* Christian knows that Jesus was a conservative who hated taxes, gays, women, minorities, Jews, and the poor, and loved nothing more than war and a good strong military.

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

Marcy !!! This is the second time today you made me spew … almost ruined a perectly good Mac. *g*
I’m putting you on the same “Danger to Laptop” list as Darkblack, young lady !!!

Excellent work as always … you, Christy, all the commenters … love you all … on with the show this is it …

Peterr @ 213

emptywheel @ 205

Jesus especially liked the death penalty. Liked it so much he, um, tried it out himself…

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

Oh, so there was a precedent to Gitmo. *g*

What to do about all this lying to congress. It’s obvious McNulty and Gonzo both lied their asses off.

Ed*ard Teller @ 155

egregious @ 136

What happened in MT, not enough Indians to matter or did the USA cave?

Close US Senate race.

Here are the ten states with highest Native American populations:

Alaska 16%
New Mexico 10.2%
South Dakota 8.8%
Oklahoma 8.1%
Montana 6.5%
North Dakota 5.3%
Arizona 5.1%
Wyoming 2.7%
Washington 1.7%
Idaho 1.4%

Hawaii has 9% Native Hawaiian population

Those must be under-counts. I’ve lived in AZ and NM, and now live in HI. How is “Native American” defined in those %? And what is the date on those numbers? Is it based on the old census rule that required only one race/ethnicity per person, or based on the current “check all that apply” rule?

Besides, in NM its practically impossible to distinguish between Hispanics and Indians (who have been living together there for more than 300 years).

Sorry, don’t have my reference books available to cross-check.

Bob in HI

egregious @ 160

phred @ 142

Ripping off Native American resources is almost certainly involved as well, so don’t forget to include Cheney, Abramoff, and the mysterious Energy Task Force as well…

Estimates range from a mere 200 billion, to a plausible trillion, to as much as 7 trillion with interest as to how much has been stolen from tribal royalties.

Probably no one would break the law to prevent that information from coming out, tho, right?

What bothers me no end is that Bruce Babbitt had 8 years under Clinton to fix that mess, and didn’t. To make matters worse, it didn’t even really seem that he was trying all that hard.

Bob in HI

Peterr @ 164

Bustednuckles @ 146

Question.
Who actually would draw up potential charges in regards to Abu obstructing,this committee or another body?

This committee. Or, it is possible that another member of the house would draft them, and they would then be referred to this committee for hearings, amendments, and possible action. From here, if/when approved, they would go to the full house for a vote.

But we don’t have to wait. For example, a whole pile of people have not waited to formulate Articles of Impeachment against Bush (see ImpeachPAC
and Priming the Pump!. That’s the whole idea behind looseheadprop’s suggestion to form a virtual think tank to formulate impeachment charges, thereby priming the pump!.

Bob in HI

Brisingamen @ 176

Bob in HI @163: Wonder how many of them have Karl Rove’s email address on them?

That is the $60,000 question. I’ll bet some of them are in that archive that no longer exist anywhere else.

Bob in HI

LIBERAL TexBetsy @ 191

Tom Steele @ 179

The way she hissed that dirty word “liberal” makes me think she wasn’t paying attention at God’s Own Law School; Jesus was a liberal.

Bite your tongue! Not according to what her teachers taught.

LIBERAL TexBetsy,
Howdy! Have you re-branded yourself? :-)

Bob in HI

twolf @ 1:44 -

Darlin’, one’na these days I’m gonna track you down *in person* just to find out how you do that “instant recall” stuff. ;-)

emptywheel @ 224

Peterr @ 216

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

And the arbitrary designation of someone as a terrorist solely on the basis of his ethnic and religious profile.

In jail they didn’t even let him have a Bible. :-)

Petrocelli @ 324

Peterr @ 213

There was also a military tribunal involved, as well as some torture at the hands of military guards.

Oh, so there was a precedent to Gitmo. *g*

Yeah and you know how that worked out…in the end the pagans, er dirty fucking hippies took over. Yeah!

Now (if you are Italian) you can get good food and vote for your leader in Italia.

Well, credit where credit is due, and all that, but don’t get too excited about Rep. Davis. Google “Artur Davis DLC”. You’ll see what I mean.