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Here we go–I'm picking up from Christy so she can go fetch her Peanut.
Conyers: Before we resume questioning, there are a number of questions remaining unanswered and I will discuss with our ranking minority member Mr. Smith how we might approach this. Randy Forbes of VA to be recognized.
Forbes: A sad day when someone's Christianity becomes an issue in hiring and firing. And AG of VA is Regent grad, and Regent beat Harvard on debates this year. Some of these members are "less than friendly." Fishing expedition to see if politics involved in political appointment. Chairmain Conyers to get to the bottom of any possible wrong doing.
[Um,except for Monica's admitted use of partisan tests in hiring. But never you mind, Mr. Forbes.]
Forbes: What puzzles me is that we don't apply the same standards to our self. Now going after Jack Murtha for threatening to withdraw earmarks for Mike Rogers. Majority voted not to discuss those allegations. You have succeeded in doing what you set out to do today. I thank you.
[Forbes is trying to see how many times he can use "quote" in one 5-minute period, and I think he's up to about 20 mentions. Oh, 22 now.]
Wexler (FL): Spoke about a meeting you attended in WH where Rove was in attendance. March 5? Who else was there?
MG: Called by WHCO, Fielding, Bill Kelley, WH Comm, Dana Perino, WH political, not sure who, might be Jennings. From Dept. Sampson, myself, Deputy, Elston, Moschella, Brian R from PA, I think there were others. Mr. Rove came in late and then left early.
Wexler: Do you recall Rove saying that DOJ needed to provide specific reasons why USAs fired.
MG: Someone else made some comment and Rove re-emphasized it.
Wexler: How long was Rove in meeting?
MG: Maybe for half the meeting.
Wexler: What occurred?
MG: Discussion about Moschella's testimony. WH folks didn't think leg should be held up, just wanted it to pass.
Wexler: Discussion about termination of prosecutors?
MG: Name Tim Griffin submitted to POTUS for approval. Sampson had suggested that people just comment on Moschella's prepared remarks. There was a comment about Department needing to explain reasons for dismissals. Or maybe comment by Comm folks that they wanted people to be clear in testimony.
Wexler: How many meetings at WH do you go to?
MG: 10-15.
Wexler: To the best of your recollection, someone said DOJ had to come up with reasons.
MG: Comment about people needing to be clear.
Wexler: Did Karl Rove say anything else in the meeting. The reason Karl Rove spent his valuable time was to say DOJ needed to come up with reasons.
MG: I can't remember.
Steve King (IA): I believe this is anything but scripted. [I know, because obviously Gonzales' testimony was scripted.] Harvard U founded upon Puritan principles, founded by John Harvard, young minister, One principle was Puritan philosophy. Founding documents of Yale, result of conservative reaction by Congregationalists about Harvard's departure from its values. Regent is a successor to Yale which is a successor to Harvard, and this Nation was founded on religious principles. If I could ask you proceedures adopted, your role and Sampson's.
MG: If you're addressing the delegation to DAG. Regulation sent to AG, I received it and it was really to fix some problems. A ratification of past personnel decisions. Third piece of package to do delegation to CoS and WH Liaison. It was essentially housekeeping. It did retain authority for DAG for their staffs. It did withhold some authority.
King: Important issues before Congress. Murtha, Jefferson. All of these things are far more important than this issue. This is a circus without a cause.
Hank Johnson (GA): Who’s paying for your lawyers.
MG I intend to establish a legal defense fund at some point but haven’t done so yet.
Johnson: The order established new guidelines. Were you aware of that when you were hired to be WH Liaison.
MG Yes
Johnson: You acknowledged that you may have gone too far in asking political questions of applicants. Did those positions include AUSAs. How many times?
MG I can't give you an answer. I don't think I did it more than 50 times.
Fancy lawyer interrupts–please let Monica filibuster.
MG I was involved in career hiring in different ways. When I was looking at waiver requests…
Johnson: Thank you. Did AG know you were asking political questions for applicants. Did DAG?
MG I don't believe he knew. DAG. It depends on category.
Johnson did you disucss that you were asking political questions: AG, DAG, AAG
MG No. I don't know, I don't know specifically. I did interview detailees for their offices. They had a sense I was looking for Republicans.



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Oooh! Christians are persecuted!
another zed?
Forbes wins the braying jackass award.
Forbes Playing the Christian card. Why is a Christian being questioned as to her honesty? regent is a GREAT University
loaves and fishing expedition…
Forbes: Fishing Expedition. There are no fish. Nothing to see here; move along
Doubt there will be a question from Forbes –he’s pretty wound up.
This is partly the fault of the Dems – they opened the door on this issue.
Was that an infomercial for Regent University? I guess we’re prosecuting Christian’s? WTF?
If she was so sure there was no wrong doing on her part why the fuck did she request and receive immunity?
OOOOOOOOOhhhhh, A Christian is being questioned about heer integrity.
GASP!
Who is this fuck, and what kind of fuckery is this?
my my is forbes angry or what……..
Wow. Who knew how awesome Regents was.
Can’t Conyers call this outta order? All this Murtha allegation stuff.
Is this bozo going to ask a question? If not – let’s move on…
Shorter Forbes: Waaaah!
No question of wrongdoing? What about the “line” Monica, herself, admitted she crossed. A line that she also admitted was wrong!!!!!
Why doesn’t Conyers get that fucking arshole
off… not germane
Forbes: “A senior member of the majority threatened potentail appropriations in defense bill.” Now he’s playing the war card.
Forbes: “It’s a sad day when we question *Christians*.”
WTF?
Whatever happened to “no religious test”?
well thank God we finally have a Gooper who decided to waste his time like half of the Dems have today.
yeah thats right – the dems did it!!
POS Forbes (R-VA) – going after Murtha again? But no questions. Puffff…
what a tool
This makes me sick. I’m moving to Canada
Forbes should STFU.
No question from Forbes yet……….waiting……..waiting………waiting……..Aw shit man, just STFU!
Yes Monica, we all know you’re a great liar…
Shorter Stoopid Fuck,
WAAAAAAAAHHHH, BLAHHHHHH, WHINE, BLATHER
Questions anyone?
“Fuckery” has been called by oddball@10
Wexler. This should be good.
Wexler – YES!
Why do the Republicans always run out of on-topic talking points by lunchtime?
Wexler, now, rounding back on her earlier testimony about a meeting that Karl attended. Who else was there?
Here we go a real man, Robert Wexler go get her!
Wexler!!!!!
Wexler – oh yeah – he beat the shit out of Gonzo last time. And I’ve been in love with him since he was on Colbert
tbsa @ 9
As set forth in her written statement, she did so after learning that McNulty accused her of misleading him.
Quit with the nice…
These individuals hate the American legal system
What part of politicization of DOJ hiring and firing practices doesn’t the braying man understand? If I may attempt an answer: the republican part.
Helen @ 36
Don’t hold back Helen. Tell us how ya really feel! LOL
Meeting at the WH: Dana Perino, Rove, maybe Jennings, Sampson, Elston, Moeschella, etc
Wexler: Who else was at the WH with Rove?
Monica: Some people from the WH. I’m not sure who. Sampson. Myself. Em. I’m not positive of the others.
GOP memo to all Pub committee members: Kiss Goodling’s behind, whine, whine some more, lavish praise on Goodling, whine, attack some Dems on unrelated matters, invoke national security, whine.
OK, my first time seeing/hearing Monica. Is it just me, or is there a timbre to her voice (like Condi’s) that shows extreme nervousness?
Sorry, I fell asleep……what hard hitting questions did I miss?
Stop thanking this whack job please.
What part of politicization of DOJ hiring and firing practices doesn’t the braying man understand? If I may attempt an answer: the republican part.
Wexler – who was atthe Nov 27 meeting?
She is staying with the “sombody said something”
“Somebody made some comment.” Take another drink!
Fucking memory loss on the important details.
She’s been coached
Wexler: How long was Rove at the meeting?
Monica: I don’t remember.
Has anyone else noticed that Goodling never mentions McNulty by name? It’s always “the Deputy” or “the DAG” or “the Deputy Attorney General”.
Seems kind of odd.
Her comment about “caging”…anymore on that..
the RNC has been under a gag order not to do such thing…?
ahe’s starting to sweat!
Isn’t it the case that if Gooding is determined to have lied in these hearings that she can lose her immunity? If so, is she astonishingly naive, or has she been carefully coached to lie only about things that cannot be easily used to prove she lied?
JGabriel @ 19
He didn’t really say that. Did he?
At the meeting: when Griffin’s name was submitted to prez, MG checked her book and said ‘June’
anne @ 40
Earlier she said she did not attend White House meetings, only Gonzo and deputy…
Monica: I don’t remember. I don’t remember.
I’ve read all the live blogging coverage here and with the exception of Goodling saying there was political litmus test, the questions haven’t elicited much from her. Or they (WH) has decided to dump it all on McNulty. Either way, no smoking gun, nothing even that damaging. Am I right to be frustrated by this result?
Wexler: Any discussion about terminations?
MG: Yes – about Tim Griffin. There was a comment about the dept needing to explain the reasons for the dismissals, but I don’t remember who said it.
her shuddering is impairing her speech and tell the whole story
VictorLaszlo @ 54
Why yes, yes he did.
Mutant Poodle @ 43
I think it’s just a natural monotone that makes her sound like her voice is computer-generated. No cadence to it. Though I understand why it’s reminiscent of Condi’s.
JGabriel @ 50
He is no longer a person to her, just an entity, the one whom she has blamed
Is there any possibility that anyone here might get the idea that there’s a lot more of the public’s business to be done than to “get” this bright young lady who was really trying to do the right thing by her country and her party?
It is interesting to watch the shift from haziness to clarity at will when Goodling testifies.
Has a solid grasp of knowledge and suddenly *poof* the I dont recall gremlins strike.
its time to bring in the ROVE to clear this up
VictorLaszlo @ 54
Yes. It might have been “a Christian” rather than “Christians”. I won’t vouch for the *exact* wording, but yes, he said that.
Wexler: to the best of your recollection “somebody” said a reason had to be determined. So Karl spent his precious time to tell you to come up with a reason why they were fired?
MG: He didn’t say “come up with”
King of Iowa: your testimony is anything but scripted.
har har
Carl Rove spent his valuable time going to this meeting to say the pukes should come up with reasons for the firings….
King of IA? Never heard of the bum.
Hello long, dddddrrrraaawwnnn out non-answer. I missed you.
Puritan minister founded Harvard, so there.
Yale too.
yeah poor lil put-upon monica – or so repugs will have us think….
For a group of people who get all hinky about oral sex, the Repubs on the committee sure are accomplished fluffers..
Harvard was a divinity school. CHRISTIAN.
empy1000 @ 71
that’s funny
D. Moore @ 215
King – Let’s talk about Harvard. Was founded upon Puritan proncipals by John Harvard who was a minister. Yale, too. Lots of Christians!!!!
King: Harvard was founded under Puritan principles.
(So? WTF?)
WTF is all this Chritian blathering about…. Out of fucking order!
Remember folks, please keep your comments on the topic of the current live blogging and try to refrain from the one-liners.
Thanks!
JGabriel @ 50
Using job titles keeps the hearings focused on professional duties and reminds everyone listening of the responsibilities these people had and yet claim to have had no involvement.
News Flash – many of our nation’s oldest colleges and universities were founded upon religious principles.
Lying that constitution is based on religious principles.
JGabriel @ 51
Not at all. If you worked for President Bush and had to testify about him like this, would you use his title or last name? Or, would you prefer to use “Shrub”? She names McNulty in her full written statement: http://judiciary.house.gov/med…..070523.pdf
now – a recitation of colleges founded by christians….. sheesh!
TeddySanFran @ 68
He doth protest too much, methinks.
And for those who don’t know him: he’s another Tancredo. Expect him to talk about nasty filthy immigrants coming over the border to cast illegal votes in elections.
King: Regent is successor to Yale, which is a successor to Harvard. BWA HA HA HA HA
King is an Ivy League historian.
ack! Rove and Bush are giving each other the high-fives right about now. I think they might have been slightly nervous before Sampson and Gonzales’ first testimony, but the dems have de-fanged themselves and they don’t have the wherewithal to get on track with this thing now. I really don’t understand how this has happened, but it has. The dems are irretrievably neutered.
King has done a bang up job analysizing the theological credentials of Ivy league schools? What a waste of hot F-ing air!
ASK SOME QUESTIONS!
Yeah the truth is hard to remember?
Another fucking idiot…
This will be me drink!
Harvard, Yale, Regent, ya know, 1,2,3 like dar
So… because Harvard was founded to train clergy (as were all Universities in America back then), Regent doesn’t suck?
Oh for fuck’s sake. YES the Ivy League started as a few divinity schools. I learned that in grade school.
Monarchs used to torture heretics on the rack, too. So what? It’s flipping 2007 in the USA in this case, you pathetic idiot.
What is this Harvard/Yale crap all about? Is this congressman saying that Harvard/Yale = Regent and bible=constitution?
“Regent is a successor to Harvard…being founded on Christian principles.”
I’m going to get a long teaspoon and pop my eyeballs out.
I finally got C-SPAN to allow me to hear the kinda cloying and deceitful little girl voice lying and misremembering. My question is:
Do Repukes take a special pill to erase their memory of anything? I’m starting to wonder how Libby, Gonzo or MoniKKKa can remember how to find their way home. Oh yeah Forbes almost makes me lose my lunch.
Hey! Then we revolted and formed a country that separates church and state….
When Harvard was founded with the religious connection, it was a joke. It was only when they dumped the religious mumbojumbo that it acquired a reputation for high academic standards.
Rep. Steve King: “This nation was founded upon religious principals — as was our Constitution.”
How the hell do these ignorant fucks get elected?
Wexler — was there a legacy from the Clinton administration wrt procedures or delegations that needed addressing?
Talking about “fixing problems” now.
King: Leading her. She seems like she did not get the “Clinton did it” memo
GOP memo addendum: Draw parallels to persecution of Christians.
lovingly handled by repug reps….awwwwwwwwww – ok i’m sickened
Ah I see now. Harvard leads to Yale leads to Regent.
Damn Christy, I guess as one of those lawyers that didn’t go to any of those three I may as well hang it up.
One more thing, you can’t have power without showing you have enforcement. Monica will never be charged with perjury or anything else. ACK!
Good Grief is Regent afraid of its image and the congress critter has to do a commercial???
wake me when its over!!
JGabriel @ 66
Fundamentalists have an whole mythology about how this was a “Christian Nation” and that they are a poor persecuted minority.
Just think Sia vs Sunni and the fundies are the Sunni. Kinda frightening isn’t it?
I just finished, for the first time, watching and listening to MG on CSPAN 3, for about three or four minutes. I can’t deal with it. I’m outta there.
Are there no former prosecutors among the Democrats? Is there no one that can break this idiot? I find bitterly bitterly disappointing. All this sturm and drang and buildup and — nothing.
King: MONEY IN THE FREEZER
Think about how intelligent their constituency must be.
I haven’t been this depressed since
Rove was given a pass after 5 Grand Jury testimonies….
useing GOD as a defense is not going to go over with GOD too well … SO i think that they are not GOD fearing people !
Hank Johnson: You have 3 lawyers. Who’s paying them?
I long ago ran out of “family-friendly” words to describe my anger at the Xtianization of government. Damn.
This years “War on Xmas” pageant begins in May?
Hank Johnson — who’s paying for your lawyers.
“I am. I intend to start a legal defense fund.”
Johnson: Who is paying for your lawyers?
MG: Me
who is paying for you lawyers? yes!
Cohen almost got there, but he didn’t he just flat out ask (which I think this is what he was trying to show), “Which ‘laws’ are more important. Biblical laws or the laws of our nation?” His questioning led to these religious diatribes by those two robots.
We need to be patient. All the Republican Representatives are doing 5 kinds of distraction.
Where do I go to contribute to Monica’s defense fund?
Biodun @ 79
I believe that at the time Harvard was founded on Puritan Christian principles, you could be deported from Massachusetts or other colonies for believing in non-Puritan Christian principles – like Baptists, Anabaptists, Anglicans, etc. You could be hanged for practicing religions brought from the West Indies.
oh wait – might this get interesting……………..?
Smirking Mod @ 81
Awww, but we’re so frikkin’ frustrated!! Lordy, we need to vent.
Okay, I’ll shut up now. Sorry. =)
These republican hacks keep changing the subject, and trying to claim this an anti-christian witch hunt. Gaaaa!
Don’t they realize how stupid they are making themselves out to be????
Let’s see…pleading the 5th, showing up with three lawyers and intending to start a legal defense fund.
She’s innocent!
The leap from Dem to Repub questioning is making my head spin. Is there not one republican who hold any respect for the rule of law?
TeddySanFran @ 120
Well, and we know that her old boss, Ms. Comstock is EXCELLENT at that.
Johnson asking about the secret order.
MG: I don’t believe that deligation was for AUSAs.
Johnson: You said you went too far for career positions, AUSA? How many times did you do that?
MG: I don’t know, can’t estimate. Lots of paperwork
Johnson: Answer the question. How many times did you ask political questions.
MG: Blah Blah Blah
see…this is what happens when you mix religion with politics! They have NO place together!
Shorter Goodling: “I asked political questions of non-political potential employees so often that I can’t even remember or estimate how often.”
So, Monica says under oath that she’s paying her lawyers. In future, she’ll set up a legal defense fund. Presumably, then, Akin Gump hasn’t sent her any bills yet, but the Congressman didn’t ask her that question. Let’s follow up on that, shall we?
TeddySanFran @ 119
i.e. I’ve not seen the bill yet.
Hank Johnson’s good. I wish he’d been up earlier.
The 5 minute procedure is bullshit!
Someone should tell her counsel to sit down and shut the fuck up. He’s got no standing in the chamber.
Someone yelling to let her finish her answers
Johnson: I don’t want her to take all my time.
So Monica had to raid her piggy bank to pay for her lawyers. Good thing that high powered legal advice is so cheap nowadays.
And Johnson’s obviously getting somewhere, which is why the GOPpers are running interference for her.
Dollars to donouts….tonights GOP spin points will be all about Regent/Christian persecution. Count on it.
I can see it now! Monica, be a good girl and we’ll donate to your defense fund-blow it and you’re on your own…
Her lawyer is allowed to speak???
Monica is eating up Johnson’s time.
Ian @ 134
So why is he there?
Did AG or DAG know you were asking political questions?
O fooey. Conyers is just flat sabotaging Rep Johnson’s line of questioning. What do they have on Conyers that he’s throwing the fight?
Just like the Republicans to interupt anonther Congress person’s questioning. They are bullies and need to be beaten down. Conyers should have said the Republican was out of order.
her legal defense fund….she needs to set it up
here we go the rebs are filibusting the christian way of not needing to be asked questions…
She is a person first, then a girl, then a government employee, then a lieing christian government employee!
Johnson: Did the Ag know you were asking political questions of career AUSA hires? Did the DAG know? Did you discuss it with any: AG — no. DAG — loooooong pause — don’t know. AssocAG — don’t know, but they had “a sense” I was looking for GOP.
Johnson’s nailing her.
Here we go with the ‘I don’t know’s
Why is the phrase “pig in a poke” coming to mind?
could we cut the crap and go after her already?
this refusal to give actual answers — the shielding behind a faulty memory — is bullshit!!! she has IMMUNITY> rip into her.
finally – oh hell hank’s being stopped time has expired!! damn
ok, who is ‘they’?
Johnson: Did Ag know that you were asking political questions?
MG Hesitates. “I don’t believe so”
Johnson: Asks again
MG Hesitates: Don’t know
Johnson: DAG?
MG I don’t know, but they had a sense that I was looking for repubs.
5 minute rule is the downfall of this “investigation”
That was Dowd complaining?
Have the fucker removed. He’s got no more standing than Code Pink.
Is Conyers on qualudes?
Johnson was good.
In the preliminary statement, Conyers advised MG’s counsel that they were there to counsel her on her constitutional rights, therefor not procedural issues or whether she should finish her statements
Nevorick @ 128
I really don’t think it’s the Republicans that are sounding silly here. I believe the Dems are sounding like a bunch of bullies.
Sweeny Feeny.
Listening only.
She sounds like what I would expect, an earnest dope.
back to darling repug questions…. how sweet ok back to sleep now
She lied about discussing with Gonzo about Political affiliation. Long Silence – I do not know. Perjury.
Shorter Goodling: The DoJ is a good place to work, but we don’t hire Democrats.
I understand Conyers likes things to be orderly, but what I wouldn’t give for Waxman in the chair. And there’d better be a second round.
Feeney: To clarify; people would take any job. So to cover the realm of requirements when you asked a political question of someone who was a career person?
Oh she didn’t know what they were interviewing for. So she asked everyone everything.
AG and DAG sent her resumes, but now she’s talking about :somebody”
“self-disclosing” their GOP affiliation
reference checks would reveal their GOPerness.
when do the planes start crashing (wellstone)Because so-far no one is asking tough question
And why NOT have they been WARNED , that they will be on them!
We need the Senate to get her …. this hearing
is driving me nuts!
TexBetsy @ 143
I believe she can turn to him for advice and support but that he’s not supposed to speak. But proceduralists, help me out here.
Jeliz, response to your caging question near end of last thread.
With all this GOP coaching she is starting to grow balls.
‘I’m just not going to sit here and tell the Committee….’
So they think it’s fine to pick people on the Dem/Rep basis. Do they think it’s OK to pick on the Christian/Non-Christian basis? That’s how we pick our US Attorneys?
It’s Clinton’s fault
Shorter Goodling: Sometimes I didn’t ask about political affiliation, because the person being interviewed volunteered it.
Feeney behaving like the asshole that he is. Brings up the Clinton’s DOJ. What a jerk!
Sometimes I broke the law, sometimes I did not. Next election, we take out Tom Feeney.
her voice is irritating!
Just routine. I was just trying to help. People just self-disclosed, knowing I was a political person. I think that hits the top of the Understatement Meter.
uhhh – i expected harsher questioning from dems(sigh)- no gloves have landed in her as yet at least IMHO…..
How many non-Christians did they hire?
Feeny — nothing to see here, no shred of evidence, no wrongdoing, the Prez announced yesterday ongoing terror plots….
Now this arshole is lying
Uh oh – there are terrorists out there and this is a waste of time.
Shorter Feeney: millions of Americans will see you and think ‘if I work hard, I too could be asserting my fifth amendment privilege to gain immunity for politicising the justice system.’
Another Republican grandstanding. She’s certainly not a disappointment to the Republican Party. Cover their asses is all they are good at. They will continue to push the meme that there is no there there. A lazy MSM will likely follow suit. Disgusting.
I’m going to puke. Why immunity? WTF? no fish? red herring?
Feeney – The TERORISTS are out to get us.
Fighting terror?
Feeney the crook: nothing to see, bigger fish to fry.
Can a Republican speak a paragraph, or even a sentence, without uttering the word “terror”?
blah, blah, terrorism, democrats fault, blah, blah…. some dumb GOP’er
Terrorists Oh No – GOP is desperate – Going back to Terrorist threats.
Sherman (CA): did your supervisors know you crossed the line?
um, they had a general sense.
Today’s repub talking point: with all the IMPORTANT business that needs attention, we’re being forced to waste time talking about this non-issue.
She went to Regent because she wanted to study with people who have like minds, and then decided to make the DOJ into the same kind of comfort zone.
This is such bullshit, and a total waste of time. Once again the Repugs are on the same page, and the Dems are completely disorganized. I’m out.
Why is nobody asking her about the Federalist Society column on the DOJ checklist??
I wish to God one of the Dems would hammer the Republicans on the fact that questions are being asked about NON-political hirings.
I’m really sick of hearing the Pugs repeat over and over again that this is about asking political questions of political appointees.
Hiring nonpolitical folks. You said you crossed the line when checking references. Were your superiors aware that you crossedthe line?
Monica: (dodges the questions)
Kyle Sampson told her she could take political factors on non-political hires.
MG: Sampson said I could consider ‘other factors’
Dumping on Sampson again.
Feeney of Florida just topped my Gag Meter. Millions of people now know more about the good Miss Goodling. Man, the boys & girls in Karl’s Shoppe must be gorging on the catnip; they think they’ve just won this exposure hands down. So, how will Mr. Conyers disappoint them.
Can’t this woman respond to a question without going on forever?
She just threw Kyle Sampson under the bus!
Sherman: Web searches; Google, LexisNexis. There are also some particulat websites that are just political contributions. Did you look at them?
MG: Occassionally
You googleg and lexus-nexused appintees.
JGabriel @ 181
And other times I didn’t ask ’cause we had just attended the same Wednesday night prayer group.
Bay State Librul @ 175
Woops, left that off the GOP memo! Good catch!
I swear I’m going to throw up.
pseudonymous in nc @ 186
It’s such a shining example of public service. And a pardigm of Christian behavior.
Dover Bitch @ 202
What is wrong with the Federalist Society? There are many great jurists, including Ted Olsen, who are members of the Federalist Society.
Did she admit that political donations were a consideration for hiring? Is it not bribing?
Why is it that people on the blogs have a better understanding of what this investigations is about than members of the Committee?
sigh. i gotta ask.
any chance that the committee schedule extra days of hearing and can call her back, still under immunity?
somebody’s gotta bone up on their questions.
forgive me if this is extraneous, but the *sexism* is driving me crazy! all the verbal head-patting–you’d think she was 9mos pregnant and having to stand while she testifies…
I did not realize that being a Christian impacted your memory so severly.
spurious @ 195
Yeah, lessee how you’d handle it if the shoe were on the other foot, scumsuckers.
Feinstein’s letter about Lam. Justice says she’s doing a great job. Why then fire her?
Tap-dancing on Carol Lam – Sherman is drilling in.
Shorter Goodling: I was busy and didn’t have the time to personally check people’s affiliations on the web — I delegated it to assistants.
MG re: Lam – we were trying to be nice when saying shitty things about her.
She’s just bullshitting now about Carol Lam. Point is, the people providing backup for Lam vs. Issa and others were working out of a completely different bit of DOJ from the Goodling-Sampson shop.
varney @ 215
I have to agree. I’m expecting the next Pub male committee member to offer her his lap and a lollipop.
So she says she believes McNulty didn’t tell everything he knows about the WH’s relationship to the firings. So what does SHE know about what McNulty knew that he didn’t tell? If she believes he didn’t tell everything he knew, then obviously she must know he knows something which he didn’t tell. So what is it? She should have to explain what McNulty knew about the WH’s relationship to the firings that he didn’t tell. Right?
Gohmert (TX) now — voter fraud!!
Monica: I did not have anything to do with drafting the Justice letter.
I feel like Eddy Murphy in Trading Place’s Liberty Club – “Is there a [Democratic] lawyer in the house?” So, Ms. Goodling just had a stack of resumes and she flipped through them? Why are the Dems treating her like the daughter who’s disappointing she only made runner up as Prom Queen? Did everybody check their brains and testosterone in the cloak room?
Gohmert Pyle. Back to mute.
Why isn’t it a good inquiry to make sure we’re suppressing the vote?
Woodhall Hollow @ 212
I missed that, what was said?
Gohmert acting like he thinks that people dying while being smuggled into the country is a bad thing.
She needs to be turned over to Leahy. Hopefully, this little charade is part of a tag-team effort on the part of the dems to soften her up for some real questions.
Gohmert: Feinstein’s letter was a good inquiry. That’s why the Dems haven’t questioned it. Politics has always played a role in appts.
Gohmert (R-Tx) reveals that he can’t disinguish between a Senator asking questions about a broad set of cases, and politically influencing a particular case.
This Louis guy is a classic. The dems want to make it easier to commit voter fraud —- jeeeeesh. These guys should be treated with lead pills.
mattsteinglass @ 231
that makes TOO much sense, like why ask about immunity, why not ask about Federalist Society, etc
ad NAUSEUM
I am sick to my stomach
ok ok i give – so far i’m not learning anything new – bill clinton is to blame for all ills – D’OHHHH
pseudonymous in nc @ 236
Oh my goodness…I too mute when the stupid people speak!
As to more on Monica’s appearance, she appears to me to be more competent than Gonzales.
I think the real crime here is that the WH appoints the maybe good and dull as opposed to the best and brightist. Apparently we need to “balance” so many bright appointments.
Also, I loved hearing the guy from Florida refer to Monica a girl.
Great stuff here!!!
Gohmert back to 1992, judges. Now 1993, Clinton fired all the USAs!
Rove’s Shoppe was obviously, if indirectly, on the phone with Dowd’s team over the lunch break, breaking down MG’s performance, the talking points and mannerisms that went over well, etc.
New Thread.
1oldlady @ 230
She said that Sampson told her that “other considerations” could be used to hire career (Immigration, bia etc) officials. “other considerations” being code for political affiliation.
Note to Gohmert: What the f*ck is your point exactly?
So I guess it is OK with Republicans that in a future Democratic Administration 80% of corruption cases are targeted against Republicans and USAs bring cases against oh say big time Republican donors (as a counterpart to voter fraud). This kind of fairness brings a tear to my eye.
theExile @ 235
This is bound up with what’s happening in Austin right now, and the attempt to force through a state Voter ID law that would probably disenfranchise 4m Dems.
Mutant Poodle @ 236
The Republicans have the right to challenge the voter rolls as do the Democrats to verify there are no dead people or felons on the lists. In Chicago, where I grew up, Democrat dead people stayed on the rolls for a LONG time…
Ugh.. someone needs to pick at her knowledge of the AUSA evaluation system, how it works and how it can be manipulated for political ends
Rep. Louie Gohmert he’s pissed off and Texan. You reckin? Ah reckin. You reckin? Yip. Get ‘er done.
Gohmert’s comment that “the Chairs not here” unfortunately speaks volumes.
meep! @ 172
Thanks for that. It was an enlightening, if horrifying, read. Now if all these people would stop coming into my office to talk about work.
What sort of constituency does this Texan report to? I mean, what sort of people elected this (being nice here) fellow?
New thread…
Louie is a moron.
Why are we talking about Harvard…
Give him the hook
OMG — we are listening to Bible study now!!!!!!!!
varney @ 216
And she was just called a ‘girl’. What the hell is a ‘girl’ doing making life or death decisions about the careers of career attorneys?
Oh please, the Hate Crime bill!??
This investigation is going to end with a whimper rather than a bang. The same can be said for the United States.
Hugh @ 252
It’s one of the reasons the Republicans are working so hard that the Democrats NOT be in control again. The Republicans were in the wilderness for 48 years…
One more Rgent=Harvard comparison and I may be guilty of a hate thought crime against these incompetent Republican congresspersons.
Bluetoe @ 267
Oh, the Schadenfreude…
RC @ 257
NOT incompetent. EVIL & PARTISAN
How many times has she said “I can’t remember” “I don’t recall” “I just don’t remember”. And for this she was given immunity? The Republicans played this Committee for the chumps it seems they are.
I’ve been away so excuse me if this has been asked and answered . . . Did anyone ask MG her reasoning for delaying/blocking hires beyond her statement that she thought some non-Repubs might not be what the AG was looking for? Why did she think such candidates wouldn’t enthusiastically support the priorities of the AG and WH? Which specific priorities did she imagine such candidates would be less than enthusiastic about. I’d really like to know? Does she think non-republicans wouldn’t support child porn investigation priorities? Voter fraud investigation priorities? What?
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She doesn’t mind saying bad things about Lam.
Again, this must be asked: “ON WHOSE AUTHORITY DID YOU BASE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS THAT AN APPLICANT’S POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS COULD BE ASKED?” She has said, on the record, that she made a mistake, but why did she ask it in the first place? This is how you do it:
Questioner: Let me backtrack a second to something earlier today. You were asked whether you thought asking someone about their political affiliation was wrong, and you answered (have her testimony read by the stenographer–’I did not intend to break the law, and I think I made a mistake’). Do you know what questions you can ask a potential hire, and those you cannot (age/politcal affiliation, etc.)
MG: (Assuming she is not a complete idiot) Yes, I do.
Questioner: If you know the questions to be asked of candidates, and you still included political affiliations, why did you ask them?
MG: (Same BS answer–did not intend to break the law, etc.)
Questioner: Did anyone in the DOJ or elsewhere train you in DOJ hiring practices?
MG: (names, after long blah blah)
Questioner: Did that person at the DOJ state that you could include questions about political affiliations?
If Yes, then have her produce the materials. If No:
Questioner: Did anyone you have worked with/corresponded with say that you should ask political affiliations of candidates?
If No, then conclude that the questioner finds it very disturbing that the DOJ would place a person of limited training and experience in such an important position. This highlights the whole tenor of these hearings: that the DOJ is being turned into a political hack shop.
If yes, get the name!
I thought the whole point of this hearing was to inquire into her role on the firings/hirings, that the WH asked improper/illegal questions for hires, and that the WH is trying to turn the DOJ into a political tool for one party. Everything else is irrelevant.
I am starting to believe that she gives lengthy answers on purpose to cut down on the question time. Notice that she does not do it when the Reps question her.
Devil’s Advocate @ 265
Of course she does. She just repeats the same tripe over and over to run out the clock.
Devil’s Advocate @ 265
Republican 101 Stonewalling
“Ok, Monica you face a tough choice now. You have a bunch fawning suitors to choose from the GOP judiciary committe members. Which one are you gonna choose… fat,christian, democrat blaming bachelor #1,fat,christian, democrat blaming bachelor #2,fat,christian, democrat blaming bachelor #3, ….”
I too mute the Reps. They are nauseating.
Did a member of Congress just say that we are much better off and should be thankful that Ms. Goodling served in the House of Justice? That she was interested in the best interests of Justice? Gag meter just broke. But the ‘Pubs obviously feel they’ve hit a home run with Geldling.
What he meant in his heart was “thank you for your service to the Party”.
I know where Schiff is going… he’s aiming at Gonzales!
IT’s not easy to sit here and lie to you. I mean give you complete answers.
One would think that it would be easy to testify before the committee if one is telling the truth.
Schiff !!!Schiff !!!!Schiff !!!Schiff !!!
ohhh, Gonzo tried hard, so it’s ok!
“I don’t know what I think about the topic”. Does she know she’s breathing?
Now we are cooking with Gas!
Wow, someone asking her for direct, clear answers to the accuracy of something. What a concept.
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Arthur Davis from AL is asking some good questions.
Shut Lundgren up!
GOP Smackdown – THey are scared.
getting vicious in there atm…
Okay, what just happened??
Lundgren is a pig.
Confusion on the Chairs’ part.
As soon as the questioning got close the GOP playes stonewall. They are pathetic.
What’s happening?
Neo-cons are trying to stop a line of questioning.
Parlimentary procedures are not something I am familiar with. All better now.
What does “tabling” mean?
Was that vote just posturing so Monika could get quick counsel ?
Oh, come on. If I went to tell my boss that he made inaccurate remarks in public, I’d remember.
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She admits that the AG tried to coach Monica Goodling. So much for “I am a fact witness.”
“Was that vote just posturing so Monika could get quick counsel ?”
I don’t think so. She have that upon request at anytime, I believe.
Why doesn’t she just say she thought she was being coached by the AG and if that was the case, it was inappropriate.
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The Dems are yielding their time to Davis. He He He… Lundgren being a pain in the ass again.
Arca @ 145
For her “fund” I offer a few tokens of my esteem: a few from Chucky Cheese…and here’s a few from the “peep show” joint…
That was sweet seeing Lundgrin with egg on his face:)
These pointless points of order. There should be a three strike and out rule (all Republicans I know like this rule).
SI dont know any rules. I just happened to be an assistant to a DAG. Maybe I keep up with this ignorance, I can become AG
“I don’t remember”. She’s caught Gonzo’s amnesia.
Ellison is a tough guy. I love him!
Jenny from the Blog @ 92
This is a serious question: “Could this be a ‘we must not offend the helpless blond syndrome’ holding them back? If not, WTF?
MG said that someone being ‘liberal’ was a factor.
Smoking gun? Or an acceptable reason?
mattsteinglass @ 232
Absolutely right!!!