(Shot of spilled beans via Dougalug.)
The House Judiciary Committee will be taking testimony from Monica Goodling this morning, beginning at 10:15 am ET in 2141 Rayburn. C-Span3 and C-Span radio will be broadcasting the testimony live. And it looks as though the committee will have some sort of webcast going as well. I'll be liveblogging below, too. Hang on kids, we are about to learn what, if any, beans Monica decides to spill.
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REP. KELLER QUESTIONS: Started as WH liaison in April 2006. Had worked at DoJ in other positions for about 4 years. Says that Lam was a topic of frequent conversation -- there were a lot of conversations regarding gun issues (project safe neighborhoods project -- people saying she was underperforming -- knew this from the 2003/2004 timeframe when Goodling worked for the public affairs office). First heard about immigration issues -- maybe when in executive office, via letters from Congress in 2005. Did anyone at DoJ ever indicate that she should be fired for investigating GOp officials? Not that Goodling knows. Doesn't remember anything like that from the WH either. Now talking about the Feinstein complaint about "coyote" cases not being fully hammered, and wondering when he'll see a smoking gun piece of information.
REP. WATERS QUESTIONS: Why did you resign? Goodling says she didn't think that she could be effective any longer. Waters asks about RNC issues -- understand that you worked with Barbara Comstock doing oppo research, and then moved over to the RNC PR. Did you use any of your oppo skills once you went over to the DoJ? Goodling says that she certainly used Westlaw and Lexis. In what way did you use them? Goodling says that she researched people that they were considering hiring. Did you use them to make decisions on who should be retired? Goodling says no. Do you have an HR division which does this sort of background research? Goodling says no -- just her and her deputy who were responsible for looking at this information. Did you ever discuss any of the research you had discovered with Rove or anyone in his office? Not with Rove. Discussed it with Scott Jennings and Jane Cherry (sp?). So, you used this information for hiring with political appointees? Did talk to WH office of political affairs about who should be hired after she checked out people at the DoJ. Did you document your research -- is it on file anywhere? Goodling hedges -- didn't really keep that sort of information. Do you have files where you kept this information? Goodling says there would be some files and they would be at the DoJ.
REP. ISSA QUESTIONS: And we're back to the Feinstein letter. And back to Issa and Sensenbrenner's griping about her as well. Now talking about the FBI doing background checks on potential hires as well, and downplaying personal oppo research done by Goodling. Goodling says that someone told her that Lam was an independent but that she never checked her voter registration personally -- Issa says that's public record. Looked not only to politcal appointees but also to qualified career professionals. Then we bring up the "Clinton did it, too" talking point. (CHS notes: I'd say that every single time Issa asks questions, that this is the thing he ends with every single time.)
REP. DELAHUNT QUESTIONS: Talking about the delegation order from the AG, which he finds to be extraordinary given Goodling's limited experience, legal and otherwise. Can you explain why the AG bypassed McNulty (the DAG). Putting this at the feet of the Justice Management Division (late fall 2005) -- personnel actions needed to be delegated. Said Margolis had made some decisions. Why not notify the existence of that order to McNulty, then -- why the statement specifically that McNulty was not to be notified, that then caused considerable controversy in National Journal article. Goodling says she read it and found it not to be very accurate. Goodling says that the decision was to have Sampson notify him personally. Given the disparity of experience like yourself who were involved and the true professionals who were bypassed -- Delahunt says it raises questions for him. Goodling says sometimes people had different experiences, and that people assessed people differently.
REP. PENCE QUESTIONS: Starts with a Lincoln quote about the need for the people getting the facts. Talking about Goodling's bio a bit. Now discussing "illegal behavior" -- talking about the criminalization of politics. Says politics are vital to our consitutional system of government. Says this troubles him.
REP. COHEN QUESTIONS: Talking about why she attended Regent - says that she enjoyed studying with people who had the same belief system. Says she didn't ask applicants about their religion -- and doesn't recall any discussion of religion coming up. Says that she was looking for people who wanted to do good int he world, and that people she knew from Regent who were like that. Lots of people who applied to work for this President who shared his same faith system. Who told you about the violation of the departmental policy on unauthorized discussions with members of Congress? Heard about it several times -- there were specific requirements about contacts between USAs and elected officials. Talking about Ashton's discussions about a management consultant talking to AUSAs in the office, and career staff in the office didn't appreciate being asked to be analyzed in Vine's (sp?) office. Historically, prior to this Administration.
Committee in recess for three votes and lunch. Will return at 2:00 pm ET.
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MAXINE!
whoo-hoooo
Justice!
This hearing is beyond disheartnening.
Christy!
Issa’s killing it. Damn.
Issa: Clinton appointed Democrats!
Worse than worse…
Getting nowhere… let the Senate have at her
EPU’d:
Issa is definitely an a*shole.
Clinton did it!
SMARMY. My god these cons are SMARMY.
LJ/Aquaria @ 3
Are you kidding, this is great!
This isn’t going to play well with the public, methinks.
Issa what a jerk
TeddySanFran @ 6
I’m shocked!
Monica,
Pray harder. Maybe your gods will forgive you — especially if you give them more money — but mine will not.
Issa should be working for Rove
Coming to the secret delegation?
Yeah, he appointed them legally, Issa, you asswipe. He didn’t replace them halfway through his tenure just because they wouldn’t help him win elections.
This may have been pointed out before but it’s my understanding that her immunity is only from testimony she is giving? She is not immune from evidence of crimes gathered outside of her testimony.
I ask because if that’s the case, I can understand why she’s obfuscating. I don’t respect it but I understand.
Delahunt: I’m surprised that you were delegated authority that bypassed McNulty.
Delahunt holds up hand: “You’ve answered my question.”
Asking about the secret order and its addendum, where McNulty not to be made aware of the order.
go billy go, he slowly gathers steam and then….
anne @ 10
Well, he did replace MORE than 8 U.S. Attorneys in his second term.
Bay State Librul @ 15
Issa paid for the California recall that gave us Arnold, hoping to win the governorship himself.
Secret order at the plate! Woo hoo!
“Executive Ardor”?
Is that a Lifetime Movie of the Week or what?
Repeat: Do not feed the troll.
LJ/Aquaria @ 19
How do you know that? Clinton replaced the U.S. Attorney going after Rostenkowski (and then later pardoned Rostenkowski).
Monica: Personnel actions were signd off on that shouldn’t have been.
Delahunt: Why was it specified that McNulty was not be consulted?
Responding to a comment from the last thread.
LibertyLee @ 11
The implied criticism was of the non-sequitorial nature of the response. Party affiliation is somewhat independent from a lawyer’s actual talent and skill for the position. And it isn’t to be taken into consideration for line-attorneys or other non-Civil Service employees.
Jake, are you another fine graduate of the pathetic, 4th tier, Regent Law and Small Engine Repair?
bmaz @ 32
SPEW!!!!!!
A stuffy joke from the chair.
Describing different peoples’ experience with USAs as entirely subjective…
Small engine repair is a noble profession compared to Monica’s.
LJ/Aquaria @ 27
It is sad to hear Rove’s discredited talking points raised again and again. Clearly, the only purpose of that is to influence those who aren’t paying attention. AKA, non FDLers.
This is LiveBlog. Please starve trolls.
Pence. Yikes!
bmaz @ 32
No.
Facts… tell that to Bush/Cheney
Mike “Indiana Market” Pence is grateful for her service, which he admits was compelled.
Why do they refer to articles from yesterday? Don’t they realize how unprepared that makes them seem?
Buffing up her Regent credentials….
44 happy Gabblers now … it’s been up to 58 this AM, IIRC:)
Monica: I have a masters in public policy.
JGabriel @ 30
She was speaking about political appointees.
This is a fucking love in.
Biodun @ 42
I just spit a taco all over my monitor
Bustednuckles @ 33
Thank you, but the line was stolen from one of Marcy’s fine commenters a couple of weeks ago.
Pence: I still haven’t seen any facts about the illegality of the AUSA firings.
JGabriel @ 29
Political affiliation is not supposed to be a factor in the appointment of any Civil Service employees.
She must have skipped the ethics in law course (or aced it!)
kdh22 @ 45
I just threw my monitor out the window onto a taco stand.
aw, damn it, i missed putting up a pool on use of the term ” “criminalization of politics”
who is this narhead?
More misdirection. More talking points. Criminalization of politics? Nope, it’s about simple criminality.
Oh, he’s another graduate of God’s Golden Ghetto University, too?
All these degrees from “Christian” universities need to be de-certified for public work. Immediately.
Boy, do I HATE republicans
bonkers @ 49
trumped
Pence: “The attorney general was very forthcoming about mismanagement at the DoJ.”
I suppose, if looked at a certain way, that “I remember nothing!” *is* a rather open admission of poor management skills.
Pence asking her a list of talking points ‘talkers’ Where is Henry? We need a strong dem up there.
Bingo!
“I’m not afraid of facts,” says Mr. Pence. He’s already quoted Lincoln, expect he’ll soon quote Horatio Alger. Where are the Democrats????? Circle jerk about he and Goodling being graduates of conservative Christian schools. Isn’t that special?
No wrongdoing, just could have done it better. No illegal behavior. No crimes, btu the attempted criminalization of politics. Good storyline, especially from someone who claims Goodling got better law school grades than he did. When will he kiss the sleeping princess and awaken her, freeing her from her thorny tomb?
Where are the DEMOCRATS???
and asking the witness — who has the experience of a doorknob — for her studied consideration of what is and is not illegal in her behavior.
now THAT’S good eating.
if he were my congressman, and i was a rightwinger, i’d still be embarrassed.
Cohen D-TN up.
Steve Cohen (D-TN) up. Good one.
Bay State Librul @ 53
they make me feel smart
Enough. This is beyond laughable. There’s housework to be done. Much more productive than listening to these fairy tales.
Later.
FDL in da House! Go Steve!
Brisingamen @ 47
WHY, is this just coming out now? Where are the interviewees? They can’t be all ‘Loyal Bushies’
So if it is just about politics, why did Goodling need immunity?
Why does he thank those dodos
“Criminalization of Politics”.
Dude, didn’t anyone tell you that you’ve got to change your talking points every three months or 3,000 miles whichever comes first?
That’s sooooo 2005 Tom DeLay.
“I had a Faith System”?
Why did you choose Christian universities?
Monica: I enjoy being surrounded by people with the same faith as I have.
She has a “faith system”.
(End of days? Blame the gays? Fuck the Jews?)
Hugh @ 66
DING!
Ha! I just asked this in the last thread. Goddamn, glad I gave $$ to Cohen!
Cohen - Christian U? why?
MG: I liked to hang out the same types of people as me. Debate was rigorous at Regent
Cohen: Regent says mission “Will of ALmighty God” What does that mean?
MG: Don’t know
Cohen: When interviewing people did you ask about religion?
MG: Not that I recall
TRex @ 53
Under what criteria may you decide that Christian universities cannot produce even more outstanding people than Harvard or Yale? Are you stating that you cannot have faith and serve the law?
LibertyLee @ 44
I think you’re making a distinction Goodling herself failed to make. In any event, Goodling had hiring authority over non-Civil Service, i.e. non-political, employees.
At best, even if your contention is correct, Goodling’s response was misleading.
Jake is a serial troll. He posts the same, discredited talking points day after day on all the liberal blogs. Again and again, he’s told the difference between Clinton and Bush, but he still trots out the same crap. Sorry to “feed the troll”, but I’ve seen his name today one too many times.
OMG! 50-60% of Regency students failed bar the first go. Thankfully more Harvard and Yale law students populate the DOJ!
“That’s refreshing”
Ooooooh, SNAP!
Monica: I’m always looking for people who will make a difference in the world. We have a lot of people from Harvard and Yale.
Cohen: That’s refreshing.
Biodun @ 70
Not to mention the same narrow, close minded world view.
TRex @ 52
OMG please don’t forget that line. Brilliant as always TRex!
I loved that bit.
It’s refreshing there are more people from Harvard and Yale.
Cohen up now. 50% of Regent Lawschool grads failed the bar examon their first attempt.
i was on gabbly and it worked well for a while, then it stopped working… the only comments I gotwere the ones I posted. I left becuase the conversation was dull. he he.
TRex, I am scoring this (so far) as a win by the Republicans. Here’s why:
1. Unlike Gonzales, Goodling is giving a good show of being forthcoming. The rare exception was her evading mentioning e-mails when talking about discussions with Rove.
2. This is a complicated issue because there are three separate categories: normal political appointments, political appointments made for wrongful or unlawful reasons, and career appointments. As long as the Republicans are able to blur normal political appointments with career appointments, they make it seem like Democratic bickering.
3. No single deed has been identified as wrongful. The more attorney firings that are involved, the worse, because it deprives the hearings of a focus.
Now, I don’t think they’re going to win in the long term. The facts on the ground are that good career people won’t sign up for DoJ and ordinary people may effectively decline to serve on federal juries because they think the process is hopelessly corrupted. But before we get to a situation where there is breakdown and backlash could be long and hard.
Jason @ 78
But they can change the spark plug in a lawn mower in 5 seconds flat apparently.
JGabriel @ 74
I think she stated early on this a.m. that she was responsible for hiring both political and career staff. Were the interview questions for both the same?
She won’t remember and has absolutely no written documentation of such. Surprise!
let’s not forget the immortal roman hruska criterion: mediocre people need representation too.
Monica: There were multiple age-discrimination lawsuits.
Many age discriminatioin suits?
Is Margaret Chiara one?
thank goodness for the break. her voice was giving me a headache.
Another recess. One hour.
But they have to pray before and after.
recess till two ,,,clear the room…
Out till 2pm.
Late to this, but it appears I haven’t missed much. At least Monica the Happy Oppo Robot can find future work recording messages for voicemail systems.
Her testimony and the performance of the Dems was giving me a stomach ache and I think I’m grinding my teeth.
I can’t believe I woke up so early for this.
Iglesias still chatzing at WaPoO.
pseudonymous in nc @ 93
And she’s, like, an expert Googler
LibertyLee @ 75
“No man can serve two masters…” Matthew 6:24
Charles @ 83
In a way we have lost ground because she has been effective in blurring and clouding some of the strong points we already had. A total waste so far as to actually advancing the ball down the field to a desired goal.
TRex @ 93
… and not fondle the spark plug … at least not in public
Conyers: Room will be cleared except for unauthorized staff, er…authorized staff.
(Laughter.) As I said in a thread weeks ago: Conyer’s gettin’ old.
Can’t someone get to the Dem staff with Q’s so that they can get their act together? I can’t get thru.
Gotta love the way Pence opened his questions to Goodling. Basically, “Hey, I went to a Christian college, too. Let’s network!”
Dover Bitch @ 94
I can’t believe I’ve stayed awake for this. I think I’ll catch the rest of this in the funny papers. I have to work tonight.
OT — If anyone wants to make postcards of flag draped coffins to send to the legislators when military are killed in Iraq, here are some links for you:
coffins
postcards
Quick somebody send Conyers Emptywheels questions and Tiredfed too. There is still time to save this hearing. MARCY!!!!! Tiredfed!!!!! CONYERS!!!!! Please.
Lonely are the eyes of a nation that turn to the wit and wisdom of Sen. Roman Hruska.
Brisingamen @ 100
This Nation was created by men who gave faith to their Creator.
i really hate the stucture of 5 min of questions from one committee member at a time.
seems designed to be unproductive when confronted by a hostile witness.
i don’t recall clearly, were the watergate hearings run like this?
A final reminder before I head out: Don’t feed the trolls, and it’s obvious who they are.
prostratedragon @ 107
i’m not proud of it, dammit.
the point is, what was once a national punchline is now national policy.
LibertyLee @ 75
Notre Dame YES. Regent U. Bha ha ha ha ha.
Do you think half of the Harvard and Yale Law school grads fail to pass the bar exam on their first attempt because that’s the success rate of Regent U Law grads. You’re dead to me.
pseudonymous in nc @ 95
To the great joy of sellers of phone sets.
lolo @ 106
yes, am hoping the dems understand they have to SAVE THIS HEARING.
cause right now, it’s one big suckfest.
Hugh @ 79
And not to mention the same mission, to infiltrate the government, abolish separation of church and state, and make the US back into a ‘Christian’ nation.
Well wasn’t she teh cutest little Goddamn Faith-Based Thing you ever saw?
Ten bucks says she tries to book a flight and flee to the Holy Land during lunch.
pseudonymous in nc @ 95
I will wager you she will get a slot on a talk show, then her own talk show, and possibly later a Seat in Congress.
dmg @ 112
Oh I know. I’d assumed you were looking up from our debased times.
I am depressed. No effective oversight (these questions are pitiful)and now no time lines on Iraq. If the Democrats can’t save the republic who can?
Dems need to be more persistent in their questioning. A few got answers, but she is getting better at wasting time. Give some time to Sanchez and others who want to dig for the truth.
spurious @ 114
i wouldn’t say BACK into a Christian nation.
selise @ 108