(Shot of spilled beans via Dougalug.)
The House Judiciary Committee will be taking testimony from Monica Goodling this morning, beginning at 10:15 am ET in 2141 Rayburn. C-Span3 and C-Span radio will be broadcasting the testimony live. And it looks as though the committee will have some sort of webcast going as well. I'll be liveblogging below, too. Hang on kids, we are about to learn what, if any, beans Monica decides to spill.
While we're waiting for testimony to begin, the LATimes has an article on Ms. Goodling that is worth a read. This is particularly noteworthy:
How a 33-year-old graduate of a little-known law school that teaches courses on the philosophy of punishing and controlling "sin" became such a powerful figure in the Justice Department is a key question for congressional investigators looking into charges that the department has been turned into a political tool of the Republican Party….
Critics say that Gonzales, by countenancing the firings, hurt the independence of the Justice Department and revealed himself to be more concerned about doing the bidding of the White House than protecting the department's credibility and integrity.
"People like Monica … were misguided and didn't get it," said H.E. "Bud" Cummins III, one of the U.S. attorneys dismissed last year. Still, Cummins said, Gonzales and other senior officials deserve the lion's share of the blame. "It is their job to stand up and say, 'No,' " he said in an interview. "There obviously was a failure, no matter whose idea this was, at the top levels of the department to assert independent judgment."…
Mark Corallo, a former Justice Department spokesman, said Goodling was trying to bring balance to the department, and he ridiculed those who criticized her for trying to screen potential hires based on their political beliefs. The civil rights division, he argued, has long been populated by "some of the most radical Democrats in the law."
He called Goodling "a real perfectionist; an incredibly energetic, good person."…
Her tenure at that office appears to have been crucial to facilitating the plan to fire U.S. attorneys. Former colleagues said that she prevailed upon the head of the office, Michael A. Battle, to replace two long-serving officials who probably would have viewed the firing of prosecutors without cause as highly suspicious, and helped install a fellow Regent law school graduate as a replacement….
Later, as both counselor to Gonzales and the White House liaison, Goodling's influence appeared to grow. Working in tandem with Sampson, she was delegated the power to hire and fire scores of political appointees at the Justice Department….
Some people close to the selection process suspect Goodling and Sampson were attempting an end-run around the commission to install a politically connected Washington insider, possibly by using a law that permitted the attorney general to appoint interim U.S. attorneys without Senate oversight.
"They were caught in the act," said the person familiar with the process. "This was frankly a warning sign that problems existed among a relatively small group … who decided they had power and authority and could do what they wanted."
Is it too much to ask in an investigation of the politicization of the DoJ that we identify Mark Corallo completely as a GOP PR flack, who works in partnership with Barbara Comstock and has most recently been the paid, personal spokesperson for Karl Rove throughout the Fitzgerald investigation into the betrayal of Valerie Plame by her own government? Let's be honest: do you think that Karl Rove has any interest at all whatsoever in (a) spinning the public perception of things in this current investigation and (b) making Ms. Goodling feel like he is publicly on her side, all the while shoving a knife in her back when her guard is down? Is it too much to ask that we note that for the public record in a story in which Mr. Rove is clearly implicated?
But it is the line from fired USA Bud Cummins which really sticks in my mind here: "There obviously was a failure, no matter whose idea this was, at the top levels of the department to assert independent judgment." And that truly is the crux of the problem — the seeking of justice is not blindly following orders. A frieze of justice at the US Supreme Court shows her weighing a matter on her scales, but her eyes are firmly fixed upon the constitution. You cannot properly do your job as a prosecutor if you are fixated on politics, you simply cannot. And the worship of following Bush Administration orders above all else — the rule of law, the constitution, the good of the whole nation — that is what has gotten all of us into this mess. With power comes the responsibility to use it wisely. Where are the adults?
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10:17 am ET
Hearing room is filling up. Goodling is standing by the table, consulting with her attorney, and Rep. Conyers is in his seat. Looks like we'll be beginning the hearing shortly. Goodling looks nervous this morning (how could you not be in her place?). Rep. Sensenbrenner is eating bits of a muffin at his seat, and several of the other members of the comittee are having little discussion nooks all over the committee area. Noise level is still high with chatter, so it may be a couple more minutes before they get started.
Goodling's attorney is hovering a bit behind her — definitely some concern on his face regarding his client, trying his best to comfort her with an arm pat or a small smile. I'm wondering if it is an issue of nerves or worry over what she'll have to say in testimony and its implications Guess we'll see…
REP. CONYERS OPENING: Begins by asking that the photographers and press clear the well — too many press for the room and blocking a view of the witness table. Asking that they move before the hearing begins. None of them were budging and they had to send a staffer down to herd them along and out of the way.
Conyers now welcoming the witness and members of the committee. Walking through the assertion of the 5th, and then the offer of use immunity for Goodling and the issuance of subpoena for her testimony and production of documents. Going through the litany on what grant of immunity can mean and that this is not dispositive of a belief of guilt in a crime. Conyers hoping that her testimony will encourage others, including those at the WH, to come forward and testify. (CHS notes: Wouldn't hold your breath on that one without issuing subpoenas.) If we cannot trust the DoJ to impartially enforce the nation's laws, if we cannot trust that the DoJ is being used as anything but pawns in a political game, then we will have sacrificed the rule of law.
REP. SMITH OPENING: Wondering if there was a link to Rove or Miers. Understands that the majority staff has learned that Goodling did not have any contact with Rove or Miers — Smith says he doesn't share their disappointment. Questions about the differing degrees of proof on whether dismissal was for performance or other reasons have fueled these questions. If we and our investigators see that the question of politicization have no legs, we don't seem to stop but try to graft on fresh legs to keep it moving forward. We have not reached any final conclusions and should not until we know all the relevent facts.
10:35 am ET
Conyers now going through introductions and instructions for counsel. Goodling just answered a question and for those of you wondering, it is a high-ish voice. (CHS notes: Not that there is anything wrong with that, having a high-ish voice myself.) Conyers now mentioning that they have yet to receive documents pursuant to subpoena — it appears that Dowd brought them with them to the committee today and has now turned them over, at least the balance of them at this point, after consulting with House Judiciary counsel and with the DoJ prior to disclosure.
Goodling been sworn in under oath.
REP. CONYERS QUESTIONS: Who put the USAs on the list to be fired? Goodling is claiming the fifth and sixth. Conyers now communicating the order for use immunity via DC Circuit, being placed in the record. Goodling told that so long as testimony and information provided is given freely and truthfully, that the immunity will stand — but failure to be honest or fully truthful could result in perjury or obstruction or other charges being filed, should that be deemed appropriate. You may confer with counsel as needed to follow the order. Use immunity procedure has been completed, and her testimony will now be compelled.
MONICA GOODLING STATEMENT: Conyers says that they will include her written statement in the record. Copies are being distributed to members of the committee. Making a briefer verbal statement.
Wishes to set the record straight regarding the allegation that she withheld information from the DAG for committee testimony to the Senate Judiciary. Says that her work simply fell short — believes that the Deputy was not fully candid about his decisions, poins finger at DAG's role on Griffen selection. Talking about the assembly of information for future private briefing session. Goodling says that she went to this briefing with him — but just prior to hearing, DAG suggested that if members of the committee recognized her as the WH liaison, they would be more likely to ask questions about the WH. She was asked to return to DoJ. She said that she was not the primary liaison with the WH — the AG and Kyle Sampson attended those meetings. "To the best of my knowldge, I have never spoken with Karl Rove or Harriet Miers while working at the DoJ." Did speak with their staffs. Never recommended to any of these folks that specific USAs be added to the list or removed.
First learned that senior officials to her were discussing possibility of replacing some USAs in mid-2005. First saw list of replacements in Jan. 2006, when Sampson showed her memo he had prepared for Miers. Goodling said she recommended Bogden and Charlton be added, but that they were not added until much later, presumably because of some other recommendation beyond hers (due to timing, she implies). Not aware with anyone in the DoJ adding the names of fired attorneys to interfere with any particular case. Finally, talking about her role in hiring and firing for career positions. Walking through her substantial responsibilities on this — says she tried to act in good faith, and staffed with well-qualified individuals who supported the AGs policies and goals. Nevertheless, I may have gone too far in asking questions about applicants political involvement and I may have inappropriately injected politics into hiring decisions. And I regret that.
Now going through her desire to serve the public and how much working for the DoJ meant to her. Has no desire to say anything negative about the people that she worked with, but I am here to be a fact witness to what she saw, heard or knows, and is prepared to answer to the best of her ability.
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what’s that gabbly url?
Mornin’.
Christy!
Christy!
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coffee and snacks I’m ready!.
and im biting my nails…..
What a great day to be home sick!!
okay – need gabbly link and committee link if anyone’s got ‘em
now maintaining radio silence
looHoo,
Balrog left you a message at the bottom of the late nite thread.
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Big bob-close your tags
Monica looks a bit lost with all the attention of cameras clicking around her. She’s used to working in the dark behind the scenes. This is like shining a light on a roach. I wonder if her heart is racing.
raven @ 5
just put gabbly.com in front of the fdl url
Oh, well. Almost my first zed. A five’s not bad for a lurker who usually only gets to the lakeside late at night.
Anyway, I am SO glad we won’t have to see W’s Monica in her Jeebus T-Shirt picture anymore. She looks kind of like a young Ann Coulter…why am I not surprised?
I have a ton of work today closing out an investment round but I’ll be parked with laptop on lap, editing documents, and ready to throw the computer at TV Sensenbrenner when necessary.
ccmask @ 16
I Did .
Will it be imappropriate for her to be warned openly about committing perjury under her grant of immunity? I am concerned that she is primed to take this all on herself and state she acted on her own judgement.
AlexandriaCynic @ 19
Don’t you mean ‘Senselessbrenner’? I know…I’m going to Gabbly.
C-Span website not responding…??!!!
I really hope for some, tough focused questioning. Conyers can’t be Mr. Niceguy. He has to break her down, shake her to her roots.
Nothing is OT anymore, all these scandals meet at chapter 1, “Rove and Cheney.” And Monica Goodling was one of the primary bookbinders in that profane process.
I heartily agree with everyone who suspects the real reason Comey and Ashcroft refused to sign-off on the secret plan was that, despite its double-speak label, (”Terrorist Surveillance Program”) the real intent of the “program” was to enable spying on Democrats in the upcoming 2004 election cycle.
It may not have been explicit in the proposal’s language, but hidden in the legaleze of that program was some sort of twisted “get out of jail free” card that would have allowed “them” to use their new found surveillance powers to spy on their Democratic opponents.
And considering the mountains of trash that was being revealed about Republicans at the time, their desperation made thim slip-up by pressuring a pair of bona fide conservatives (Ashcroft and Comey) with their pernicious neocon demands.
One of the shameful factors that seems to be missing scrutiny, though, is how long it has taken for Comey (or Ashcroft for that matter) to reveal just how devious, disingenuousand dangerous the whole event became.
There is a lot of good reason to defend and commend both Ashcroft for standing up for our Constitutional rights. But why did they help perpetuate the cover-up with their long silence?
I think Comey’s really struggling with this, probably has been since it happened. Just how do you tell the referees that your captain is cheating, without being labeled a traitor by the guilty parties and their enablers?
Simple… you just DO IT!
Too late for that, maybe Comey and Ashcroft and many others who enabled the neocon cabal to perpetrate this travesty will come forward with revelations that will prevent this from ever happening again.
Can you imagine what the Republicans would do if Democrats built such a lawless gang at the top of their party? It would be a constant drumbeat of righteous indignation, and a constant demand for “the rule of law.”
Remember the Clinton Impeachment debacle?
So where were these great Protectors of Liberty when Cheney and Rove were so blatantly building a personal, private-interest, no-bid book-cooking shadow government within our Federal government?
I think these Republicansare only growing a sudden. new constitutional conscience because they lost in November, they lost in Afghanistan and they lost in Iraq. So now they claim America.
What a bunch of losers. And they are so afraid of the word “loser” they are willing to watch another thousand Americans die, simply to protect their false bravado.
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This page on the HJC site has the link to the live -feed.
Capital J @ 23
I’ve got it up
This is going to be another one of those “Not getting any work done ” days.
I’ve got sound on C-span 3, but nothing’s happening yet.
Jane S. @ 25
CSpan-3 is working fine
http://www.gabbly.com/firedoglake.com
Gabbly
Helen @ 29
Hey there Helen…
I’m in Germany now, going to my birthday dinner in 90 minutes and will spend the next 85 watching this on my laptop. I hope it’s riveting!
Hey kdh22- ready to roll
RevDeb @ 32
Thanks, I’ll switch over.
She looks just like the prosthelyzer that knocked on my door last week…..so innocent, so pure eeeugh!
{{{{Christy}}}}
all set, wearing plaid for luck.
Goodness! Never saw such fidgeting before a committee hearing before…
Monicadearest looks as if her mother did her hair…
Englischlehrer @ 35
As do we all. Starting now. Looks like the gang’s all here, committee-wise…
Anybody know who the nastiest repubs on this committee are? I don’t really remember from the Gonzo session.
Here we go! (Lowering expectations)
Please stay on topic and take all other conversations to the previous thread, thank you.
Please keep comments very short and infrequent to help with Christy’s liveblogging.
Helen @ 36
I had no doubts…and thanks!
Conyers removing some camera people to move. Too many of them. Filling up the whole space between the committee and the witness table
Move the cameras…we don’t want Monica inconvenienced.
Bye people…they’re accommodating her too much already.
Completely superficial assessment but I studied that Regent picnic photo of her and I just got from that — “deeply insecure and trying so hard”. That tiny little purse, Ralph Lauren’s name written across her chest…
I don’t have much faith in the House Committee. The Senators are much better at this – probably because many of them were prosecutors.
monica and sampson — kids in over their heads, drunk on their own importance, loyal only to the white house — are just the domestic face of the same mentality that had kids, good hard-right kids, to be sure, running and ruining the Coalition Authority’s efforts in Iraq.
it’s all of a piece.
Conyers Opening: MG asserted her 5th amendment. We gave her immunity (33-6 vote) She is there under subpoena. The fact that we are granting limited immunity should not be taken as any indication that she is guilty of a crime. Nor does it mean that she had a bigger role.
Anyone think shes on X*nax right now
Conyers: I hope this encourages the WH to cooperate. BWA HA HA
CSpan3 on cable running that subpoenas approved for Miers/Rove
What’s she wearing?
Conyers: We are looking into Ob of Justice; violations of Hatch Act. If the USA are pawns in a game of politics we would hae lost the rule of law
I can’t wait to hear her voice!
Watch Monica’s face for “tells” – already she’s shown an interesting pattern of blinks and lip movements as Conyers speaks.
Someone please sh**t me, that’s my critter up there now.
Lamar Smith: You are the last witness within the DOJ that we are going to hear from. Thanks so much. We have heard from nearly 20 witnesses and looked over reams of docs. Majority staff has learned that you had no contact with Rove or Miers.
Monica is smirking. I am not kidding
So far she a stone (to others not able to watch)she sitting there blank and looking straight ahead
“pleasure of the president.” take a shot!
Is that a standard Regent University dolly-do that Miss Monika has?
I’m reading ’stonewall’ all over her face.
Smith: She had no contacts with Rove or Miers.
The fix is in.
Nice–couldn’t Lamar Smith’s staff give him a phonetic spelling of “plethora” when they wrote his opening statement?
Is it just me, or does she look like a young Ann Coulter?? Creeeeeepy……
Monica’s eyes appear incredibly glazed, body rigid. Any guesses on how many Vali*m she munched for breakfast?
Will this be like the Watergate hearings where she’ll “consult” w/ her atty before responding to every question, thereby filibustering and never Answering?
(I played hooky in High School for weeks to watch the Watergate hearings.)
drop the puck!!!!
Unless we get some tought attorney-like grilling from the Dems this will be another waste of time. Rove and Miers, already off the hook??
Can I just point out that it is unjust that Monica looks so much better slept that Jim Comey did when he testified?
Am I lost in the blogasphere (sp) or did mods not like my question about X*nax?
[Mod: We are asking once again for people to stay on topic. ]
The repug said”to fined the truth ” but also has aready made his mind up that she’ll be the last witness. Cover up again by the R’S.
bonkers @ 66
exactly. This does not bode well…
My wager: she is going to burst into tears.
Is she a munchkin?
Conyers sounds tired already.
Eew, little girlie voice. “Yes thank you.”
She sounds like Minnie Mouse!
OH yeah – she sounds like Minnie Mouse.
Monica’s expression is now “**** you, Conyers.” Oooh, her voice is all little-girl squeaky.
She’s squeaky!!
She has 3 attorneys with her? Isn’t that unusual? One, sure, but 3 strikes me as overcompensation.
holy shit, she’s got a porno voice!
Her voice sounds younger than Snarkassandra’s. (age 15)
Good morning FDL
Dem-agog @ 71
Her voice just sounded like one on helium.
Christy, if you can fit it in, let us know about the “tells” that you observe.
She’s got a certain E-Harmony commercial xtian death cult aura about her. eww…
I’m worried about the servers but one question for the lawyers is are you allowed to leave DOJ with reams of govt documents in your possession?
Well Mr. Rove butt-kisser Corallo, when the vast majority of attorneys who bother to learn anything about civil rights law enough to be competent in the field are Democrats, the people qualified enough to be hired into a civil rights division tend to be, um, Democrats, you fucking moron.
Conyers: Re Doc. You want to confer with DOJ before they are released to us. We will give you a reasonable time to do that. Oh no – she has them as per Dowd
They’re getting the documents. That’s important.
The minority guy in his opening statement tried to lay out her defense. He proceeded to say the investigation has no legs and that Rove and Meiers weren’t involved. Basically he said the whole thing was due to performance matters. and oh by the way “We shouldn’t make up our minds before hearing the testimony.”
Nimrod.
Wooohoo they are SWEARING her in…. !!!
I want to hear Dowd say, “Goood Evening….” in his best Hitchcock voice.
Wow, they gave her cheat sheets, with tabs to help her “amnesia”.
This is gonna be good.
What about the documents she didn’t produce?
Okay, squeaky voice as predicted.
Wish Conyers would stop kissing the enemy’s arse and get down to it.
She’s being sworn in
Goodling being sworn in.
Sworn!
Englischlehrer @ 79
& her attorney is Charles Laughton. Radio silence now.
Swear her in! Swear her in ! Yes! Hahahah!
The oath: “under penalty of perjury.” Nice touch.
Bring on the bullshit.
question: has the fact that she taken immunity put her law license in jeopardy?
Holy crap – the Fifth!
Conyers: Who put names on list
Goodling: PLEADS THE 5th
Wow. Goodling has a little girl voice.
She really needs to take up smoking.
How medicated do you think she is?
Conyers: Who made the list?
Monica pleads 5th.
holy shit -taking the fifth!
Arrggghhh 5th Amemnded again
She takeing the Fifth
Good lord, she’s already taking the fifth oin her first question.
Oh no, honey. You gots immunity, you gots to testify!
patience…
Monica described as “good and energetic”. Puts me in mind of Bertrand Russell’s blistering essay on “nice people”.
Conyers: I am telling you that you have immunity. You have to answer.
perp walk upcoming?
already weaseling out
Relax, folks — Taking the fifth is preliminary to getting the grant of immunity into the hearing record.
Is this just theatre and to get it into the record?
what the hell is going on? She’s not gonna testify? What order did he give her?
Pleading 5th doesn’t bode well.
Conyers threatens perjury.
Conyers reading her the riot act. He sounds kinda pissed.
Conyers reading her the immunity statement and allowing her to confer with counsel. It’s going to be a l-o-o-o-o-n-g day.
Watch her attorney (why does he look like KR?)
Yes Monika, be careful how you answer. Perjury charges.
wow. I guess crying is still an option.
the fifth? yer sh*tting me.
oh are the dems looking stupid now.
we can only hope they get fed up and DO something about it.
Arca @ 107
She doesn’t need meds. She’s got Jesus on her side.
Helen @ 117
Yes. Calm down, everyone.
I’m trying to read Dowd to see if he is onboard with this…I really cannot tell.
Monica obviously hired the same people who did Katherine Harris’ makeover.
Did Monica ever turn over the documents that were subpoenaed? Never mind, she wants to confer with the f’in WH via the Justice Department.
So how do the Republicans even begin to think that every thing’s “okie dokie” when she begins by pleading the 5th!
Conyers: Now with the immunity I direct you to answer questions
Conyers: Please answer our questions.
She’s gonna take the fall like a good soldier. When Hitler was surrounded in his bunker at the end of WWII many true believers were willing to fall on their swords. Republicans are no different.
I wish the camera didn’t show Dowd behind her; he’s mouth breathing and looking like a total idiot.
Did you notice how Conyers was just jiggling his chair? Frustration he can’t express verbally, I guess.
dmg @ 125
NOT! Unfortunately.
CNN has this live. Cool.
RC @ 71
I’ll take that bet. She’s got this whole thing figured out.
Monica’s voice sounds like Sleeping Beauty or one of the Disney princesses…
Seems like she had to plead the 5th in order to get the immunity agreement read in.
here are my remarks- I’m afraid of Karl Rove…
Dowd is an outstanding attorney.
Blaming it on McNulty.
pretty good. Contempt of congress live and in color. Demand a referral- and if they don’t get it- impeach Gonzo.
Use, not transactional immunity?
She is throughing McNulty under the bus!
Monica: I did not withhold info from Schumer.
She looks and sounds a bit like Jessica Lynch.
she’s blaming the deputy
whitehouse involvement
ahh. i see now.
conyer’s first question was designed to provoke goodling to take the fifth – so that immunity could be provided… and her statement could then be made.
CNN’s five seconds ahead of the committee b’cast…
Can only imagine how loud Dowd snores…
Strategy: shoot the deputy, not the sherrif.
Throwing McNulty under the bus too?
wow, they are truly trashing mcnulty.
Did she just talk about Tim Griffin and vote caging?
She’s just going to dump on the “Deputy Attorney General”
She’s gonna put the whole thing on…McNulty.
Wow, I spy that lady who is some sort of army veteran who is anti Iraq war back there in the audience – the one Bill O’Reilly likes to rip on – can’t think of her name or rank!
Furthermore I am super duper double scared of Karl Rove, Oh, and I’m full of shit, too…
“to the best of my recollection” = one more big lie
Monica: I wasn’t the primary WH contact – Sampson attended the meetings.
Then what was her job?
Ooh no, she’s passing the buck to McNulty, Sampson et al.
Mandrake @ 158
Ann Wright?
“Mr. Sampson showed me…”
MG: I never talked to Rove or Miers. Others “more senior to me” were talking about replacing USAs.
Shorter Goodling: “not my job.”
Do you all like my quivering little girl voice?
Thanks for keeping this in perspective Peterr.
Yep. That’s Ann Wright.
“I don’t know”
1.
Let’s keep score.
dmg @ 102
I believe law licenses are controlled by the State Bar Assoc.
I don’t know about VA, but here in CA, they won’t even disbar John Yoo, who doesn’t show signs of having ever read the Constitution.
Morning, all! Just tuning in… sounds like this could be rather interesting testimony. Kudos to CNN for covering it – even they are willing to show what a big deal this is. Perhaps we’ll see more traction gaining in the mSM on this scandal, this hijacking of our government to support the GOP.
ccmask, I hope you feel better soon (but not too soon – you don’t want to go in for a half-day of work and miss this testimony, I’m sure)!
Thanks for liveblogging, Christy. I’ll head back into the shadows now to give the servers a break.
“I have no clue why they were asked to resign”
MG: “never had a conversation with Rove or Miers” during tenure at DOJ. But DID TALK WITH THEIR STAFFERS–though all remain unnamed in her opening statement.
She was asked about the NINE fired attorneys. Her statement says she’s prepared to talk about the EIGHT attorneys.
Damn! I have to go to the dentist. Thanks for the running commentary. You’ll keep me updated when I get back.
I know nuting!!!!
She needed an immunity deal to say that she wasn’t a part of anything and doesn’t know anything? She’s doing I was just a little cog in the machine act.
Wasn’t me; all those nasty men ganged up on me!
Dowd is smurking at times. Not such a good idea for a lawyer.
Rep coble (R NC) is picking his nose.
This is disgusting
she is totally stonewalling.
which comes as no surprise, at least to me.
my question: who on the committee will be well enough informed to put her through a sharp examination?
Trying to hide behind “confidentiality” for the career appointments.
Admits went too far about political questioning of interviewees. Woo hoo.
What is a “confidential policy-making position” at the DOJ?
During my years there I’ve interviewed 100’s of people. In every case I acted in good faith. I may have gone too far in asking question re: political questions. i regret that. Now I wanna talk about me
She gave input but ultimately it was the Final Decision makers = Senior Dept Officals. *sigh*
Shorter Goodling Statement:
I’m entirely innocent of all accusations and allegations. And I wasn’t the primary connection between the WH and DoJ, despite my title of White House Liason. And I don’t know anything about why the USA’s were fired.
But I was maybe too enthusiastic about asking political questions in hirings.
This is rich. No one knows how the fired attorneys ended up on the list. Spare us this BS. These witnesses are given literally weeks if not months to prepare their testimony so everyone can get their stories coordinated. Just another example of how this country is f___ed up.
CYA- “May” have asked too many political questions.
Now in the record.
I want to help people. I chose Cristian U because of the emphasis of helping people.
I got ten bucks that says she eventually cries…
Ah, a hint at the loyalty oaths. ew must be covered in well-deserved smugness.
Monica: The person I read about in the medai and the toobz is not me.
What’s up with her yearbook conclusion? that’s the Friends generation for ya….
All US fired attorney,, Go back to work” NO-ONE” fired you! No ONE!
Tap Duncan @ 163
Amen.
quavering voice…tears to follow shortly?
And my likes/dislikes are
And my favorite color is
And i like long walks on the beach
She was a good soldier, only following orders.
Went to Xian universities to better allow herself to learn how to “serve” others. Yeah, like Republicans, most likely. How far did your idea of SERVICE to these people go, Monica?
Monica: I consider people I work with family.
It’s hard work
roninstia @ 53
looks like Goldie Hawn ready to enter a convent..
ogawd! sounds as if she’ll cry before this is over.
groan….
MG: “I may have gone too far.”
Now she’s saying what a nice person she is, so don’t pick on her. She really reminds me of Princess Diana, looking up pleadingly from under her blonde hair.
oh, this “I’m a good girl” spiel is sooooooooo sickening….
dmg @ 184
Conyers. I have great faith in him. He’s a nice guy, but not someone you wanna get into a fight with. He’ll politely back her into a corner until she yelps the truth.
Monica’s statement appears well rehearsed – “at heart I’m a very kind person….” “considered the people I work with like family.”
She admitted wrongdoing:going to jail for sure.
Conyers: Who made the list?
Conyers: thanks for your statement.
(This is going to be a long day of perjury. Take her away in ankle bracelets.)
“I’m a nice person. My Daddy says I’m the sweetest little girl in the world.”
oh this is such a waste of time.
I really meant well, I wanted to help keep the thugs in power forever, long live pat robertson
If the Dems want to best serve the country those involved in the investigations might want to watch films of the Nuremburg Trials.
Conyers: Who made the 9 person list?
MG: Todd Graves – don’t know; want to talk about 8. Sampson compiled the list
MG: I have conflicting testimony – I mean meories….
Sampson compiled the list, for Alberto. Hm…
Darn, I lost my signal!!!!
Helen @ 192
As long as they agreed with her doctrinaire fact free views.
Just got here! Overslept…..
Aren’t they all “good people.”
Monica: Sampson compiled the list.
I don’t know.
2.
Shit Conyers–follow-up on Miers and Rove–she has said Sampson worked iwth Miers and ROve. Did they give input.
Don’t write it down, and don’t admit to anything! Isn’t it interesting that an ‘attorney’ in the top levels of our Justice Dept needs a boat load of lawyers to protect her Ann Coulterish ass (hidden begin the pseudo sweet christian [speak no evil?] facade)?
She wants to serve a certain few people! So much for America in general!
I swear Republicans can’t write! It’s all by ‘recollection’.
landofthefree @ 208
i hope so.
so far, not so good.
I was only able to watch a few minutes before heading to work.
IMHO: One observation has ALWAYS been proven in life: whenever a prissy, tight-ass bitch is heard speaking in a little-baby-girl voice – WATCH OUT. She is the true dominatrix, authoritarian and sadist of the group. Add a touch of Christo-fascism training via Pat Robertson, and you only need some Brown Shirts.
Always was, always will be.
dratty @ 199
F*ckin hil-ar-ious
landofthefree @ 206
Maybe you’re seeing something I’m not. I don’t think he has a clue as to what’s going on.
“Lists were compiled,” but apparently no one ever decided anything.
The Passive Voice defense!
Boy, I hope they get something from her besides “I may have gone too far in asking political questions,” or I’m just a cog in the wheel; I don’t know.” Otherwise, this immunity is just plain crap.
We kept getting this compiled nonsense, but not who submits the names for the compilation.
Who put Iglesias on the list.
I don’t know.
Who should we ask?
Sampson
Conyers: Who put Iglesia on the list?
Moinica: I don’t know.
Conyers is stumbling.
I just love the “beans” graphic. You’re all the best.
Looks to me like Monica hasn’t been getting a lot of sleep recently. Can’t blame her — not a comfortable seat to contemplate having to sit in.
Conflicting memories?
What is she schizophrenic?
No one put the person on the list… amazing
Get the f*ck on with it Goldilocks.
Question for Goodling:
She’s giving every indication of being ready to crack if proper pleasure is applied.
*sigh*
Conyers: who put Iglesais on list.
Monika (pok*r face): I don’t know
Conyers: (taken aback) well who could answer that question
Monika: Sampson.
Meeting with DAG and AG, Iglesias “has been addressed.”
Note this meeting woudl have happened after DOJ panicked when Iglesias mentioned the Domenici call.
She just admitted to Gonzales being in a meeting where it was asked how Inglesias got on the list.
I think she just let something slip she should not have.
big bob @ 197
Like one of those dumb “Family Circus” cartoons, where the kids blame the phantom “Nobody” for breaking the lamp or whatever.
Jeez, conyers, get it together! He sounds like a bumbling fool! uh, uh, ummm,uh…
I’m going steady, and I french kiss, and Daddy says I’m the best at it…
Bluetoe @ 215
Or at least the Watergate Hearings. This is nonsense. Right now Monica is taking Conyers to the cleaners.
Oh, isn’t Monica just adorable? Conyers seems so ill prepared and has no strategy. Gavel the meeting adjourned because nothing is going to come out of this “testimony”. Obviously, she studied from the ABU School of Testifying Before Congress i.e. I don’t remember, I don’t recall, I know nothing I tell you!
well – she’s got Sampson and Abu as perjurers so far…
Will we now hear the MSM’s cries of how much Monica just spent on her new hairstyle? Surely, her Breck Girl look cost a tad more than John Edwards’. And how about that “little girl assistant” voice?
So it looks like Sampson is going to have the bus back up over him all day.
God, I hope the other Dems start pulling out emails and grilling her like there’s no tomorrow. Treating her like a friendly witness will go nowhere! She’s the ultimate Bushie Loyalist.
What did Kyle tell you about the process and how the names came on the list?
MG: January he had a draft copy. No context. Knew he began in mid 2005. No background asked me to look at the memo. Later he sent me an email I don’t remember anything but what was inthe email. Nov 27th meeting: I feel that he talked about the context but I don’t recall any specific conversation.
Her forehead is going to need serious botox when this is over….
She’s the WH liason and she doesn’t chat with Myers and Rove? Especially since Myer’s is part of Bush’s legal counsel?
Does anyone take notes there? Who was taking their meeting minutes or were all of their discussions ‘off the record’?
They need to ask her about the Waas memo delegating authority to her and Sampson.
who is thanking her for her CANDOR?
Lamar Smith: “Oh aren’t you a cute little girl, so sweet!!”
Can we sneak Leahy, Schumer, and Whitehouse in?
Conyers isn’t stumbling. I think he’s taken aback by how full of sheiss she is.
“I don’t recall.”
Christ, I could be sleeping right now, but I keep hoping for something decent here.
Ugh. Lamar Smith. No, she won’t do anything to counter it. She’s only making herself look like the backstabbing, lying, manipulative bitch she is. I’ve seen this long-haired, baby-voiced type too many times not to know exactly what she is.
oddmommy @ 207
Lamar thanks her for her “candor”.
That’s rich.
Smith: Any contact with Harriet or Rove?
MG: No. Not before decision. 1 meeting after the decision.
Here’s a question for ya: If this is all she knows, which isn’t much, why did she feel the need to plead the Fifth the first time she was asked this question? After being told she must answer, the answer that came next should have at least somewhat incriminated her, no?
Don’t doubt Conyers….he knows what he’s doing, bumbling affect and all.
anybody got the gabbly link?
2005: social call with Tim Griffin, he said he might get the job in Arkansas
mui @ 262
Well all due respect, but WTF did he expect?
Need to have Gonzo, Monica, Sampson all in
one fucking room, at the same time …….. and grill those bastards… this is a clusterfuck
Carl Castle on NPR almost said Monica Lewinsky when he was reading the headlines just now.
i’m getting the sense from conyers’ responses to her nonanswers that she’s giving the committee something entirely different from what her lawyers indicated she would.
I hate to think what little she’d say if she didn’t have use immunity. Probably just sit there.
I’m getting a “Knodler” feeling. What exactly did this woman DO? She’s the “WH Liason”, yet she says she had no contact with Rove or Miers.
So why was she given with Kyle Sampson the extraordinary power to hire and fire any non civil service employee at the DOJ in the Gonzales order of March 2006 if she is just a sweet little nobody?
She had incredible power so she was one of the top actors in this and to say or imply anything else is a lie.
Like – I dunno! Uh-huh! Fer shurrrr…
…and how did you select Tim Griffin…?
MG: I think others should charactize my role. WTF?
My role was after the person resigned and getting candidates to replace.
Did you ever mislead those testifying?
No.
Damn, I hope someone remembers to ask her whether her fancy law school taught her it was okay to delete documents after an investigation has started.
inmymind’seye @ 240
Oh yeah, it’s totally theater….the hair, the cute little voice….all to hide the evil underneath the veneer – not necessarily Ms Monica, but just the entire conglomeration of people.
emptywheel @ 243
EW, please keep up your comments to show us lesser beings what is not readily apparent in this committee’s line of questioning.
this whole thing is gonna be sold by the Pukes as a latter-day HUAC star-chamber thing…
“are you now or have you ever been a Republican?”
Yay! Linda Sanchez!
New thread…
“I’m so scared, you’re all so scawwwy! Note the waver in my baby voice!”
Sanchez: Did McNulty know about WH role?
MG: WH was involved in sign-off
Carl Castle did just almost say Monica Lewinsky. She seems like a sweetheart next to this creepy baby-girl. WTF did she plead thte 5th before when she knows nothing. I say immunity withdrawn. Grill her and show the money documents/e-mails to her. Who cares if she cries? I hope she bawls her eyes out. Help her lose control so some truth might actually be heard.
Monica is reminding me alot of Tanya Harding.
earlofhuntingdon @ 252
….throwing shit out of the hall closet looking for voice altering machine FBI left after their last search…..
Linda Sanchez isn’t intimidated by blonde cutie-pies. Notice how Monica’s voice suddenly sounds more mature, and less of a little-girl sing-song.
Goodling blaming McNulty! Hogwash!
What a motor mouth! Is she on amphetamines?
Is it me or did she just say the WH was involved for months and then out of the other side of her mouth say, “Well the WH was just involved in the final sign off”
Orange jumpsuit!
I’m not familiar with DC, but is there a salon that specializes in Federal witness makeovers?
Conyers is a poor questioner, but remember — the day is young.
Goodling is not up to this task and at about hour three she will start losing it. By this, I believe that she will stop saying she does not remember stuff.
I cannot believe that her attorney has prepared her by suggesting she say she doesn’t remember stuff about the Whitehouse. Once you get immunity — one must really spill the beans or go to jail.
gonna add this here for use later:
The following email exchange refers to a meeting with Mickey Barnett. Did this meeting ever take place? It is listed on your appointment calendar for June 21, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Reference 3/13/07 Part 3 pages OAG 112-3)
Monica met with NM politician to talk about Iglesias. She’s lying. check out the email.
Caging….she did it, but she can’t fucking define it?
Isn’t there a gucking lawyer on the Judiciary Committee who knows how to interview an adverse witness. Geesh!
Arca says #104
Interesting question
now she’s defending Griffin and “caging”…
Bailey23 @ 289
BINGO
“You have a good reputation in the department” except for all the law breaking!
Moschella is a snake. Cannon is quoting a snake.
WOW, you are right about the voice! NOW that she’s got a (R) and a MAN questioning, her voice went immediately back to a blushing mini-mouse. This kid is using all she’s got. I think, however that if she keeps talking at that speed, her brain will not be able to keep up with her mouth and she’ll perjure herself by lunchtime.
Yo, Imm!
What happens if she is caught in a lie while under immunity?
WTF??!
Lamar’s grandstanding against John Murtha now??
What does that have to do with this??
OUTRAGEOUS…where is Conyers?
why is this allowed?
OMG, can Rep Cannon possibly find something to say that’s any more irrelevant to subject of the hearing?
What does the “hearing did not go well” mean?
…that others found out about their malfeasance??
Goodling’s Elizabeth Shue make-up and juvenile doll-voice are sooo appealing to male authority figures. This is political theater and a PR fight to the death. So far, MG and her backers are winning.
…oh those nasty “thoughts”…
Some of us in Gabbly chat have agreed this little person is about 12-years-old emotionally, more like the queen bee of a middle school cliche…
We’re going to rename her “Heather.”
Sensenbrenner sez Heather’s been taken on a fishing expedition. Poor little girl.
WHAT about the 70 million spent investigating Clinton’s sex life??
WHO Is this asshole?
(”fishing expedition”…yeah sure.)
…actually, she’s like the Reese Witherspoon character in “Election”
ooo “two type-A women”…
cat fight.
Sarik @ 316
You expect the GOP questioners to be self serving defenders. They would not have showed up for camera time to be anything else. “Look George, Look George, see how loyal I am” But, hopefully, some of the DEMS actually has staff that prepared from zinger questions for them. So far, the House hearings have been pretty pathetic. I want to see Monica before the SJC.
I want to see her in handcuffs.
this is a gd scam.
Rayne @ 314
naah! “Tiffanie”
Go Bobby Scott!!!
“a dud”….?
RickinSF @ 319
This is no time for S & M fantasies. *g*
Please tell me the HJC is dysfunctional on purpose … to give Rove, Miers, Rice, etc. a false sense of security … that when they do appear, Conyers will pull a Leahy/Whitehouse smackdown on them.
Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve…been done differently.
But they WEREN’T.
The whole point of the immunity agreement RC @ 210
The whole point of the immunity agreement is so Ms. Goodling does notgo to jail.
Why has there been a media-blackout of this?
There certainly is interest in this but neither TV nor radio is
broadcasting this.
[and DAMN haloscan!]
I hope they ask how Rachel Poulose was qualified to be hired.
i suppose I should’ve added “…and an orange jumpsuit.”
Project away.
Sorry to drop in to the comments because this may have been mentioned before, but a few mintes ago goodling says McNulty or
Sampson dropped the list by her office and asked her “to take a look at it and give him her thoughts.” If she knew NOTHINGm about any of those people, why the Hell would they aske for her thoughts?
pwrlght @ 33
sorry to intrude: how to use gabbly, please??
i’ve tried, & can get window to open, but not to respond. need cookies? where to look for instructions?? thanx, when someone has time & inclination to help… ;->